Hello everyone, I'm new to the Brown list so I want to tell you about my line. My momma is Annette Blair Ratliff daughter of Ananias and Princess Maggie Slone Blair, Princess Maggie Slone was the daughter of Lewis and Belle Williamson Slone, Lewis Slone was the son of Franklin and Lenoria Belle Brown Slone, and lenoria Belle Brown was the daughter of James and Tabitha (?) Brown both born in North Carolina according to Lenoria Belle's marriage bonds. James is as far as I can go back because I can't tie him to any Browns in North Carolina. I have checked the census records for all James Brown born in 1845 in North Carolina but without a marriage bond for James or his death certificate I can't connect him to a family in NC. I have all of them written down but no way to connect him to any of them. I would appreciate any help from the other Brown researchers in my stone wall named James Brown.   Sonja (Sandi) Ratliff Researching: Ratliff, Blair, Coleman, Sloan, Green, White, Brown, Little, France, Blackburn, Justice, Farmer, Fry, Compton, Jayne, Johnson, Walker and many, many more. ________________________________ From: "brown-request@rootsweb.com" <brown-request@rootsweb.com> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:34:12 PM Subject: BROWN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 42 BrownToday's Topics:   1. Re: AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND (R. Mark Brown)   2.  SUGGESTION--- FOR BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND,    IRELAND AND ENGLAND       or you beli (parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca)   3. Solomon Brown of Lexington, MA and New Haven, VT (The Burt's)   4. 1885 Obit for James Brown, OH (The Burt's)   5. Re: BROWN SC 1780-1790 to 1850 (WAYNE BROWN) -----Inline Message Follows----- What do you know from the 1844-48 period Beth ? Any idea where he married - Gibson could perhaps be his mother's maiden name - just a guess. Mark On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Beth Golden wrote: > Hello! Thanks so much for your original post in this thread as it has > generated great responses. I too would like to know what a crab idol is! I > wish I could claim that my Brown line is from Scotland, but I'm stuck with > finding the origins of my 2nd great grandfather, Richard Gibson Brown. He > was born we think around 1800 in either NY, OH or VT. We've only been able > to find documentation for him during the years 1844-1848 when he was married > to Rebecca Moore and father of Loammi Byron, Benjamin Franklin, Susan and > Richard Gibson, Jr. in Rock Island and Mercer Counties, Illinois. Since his > children didn't know him well, they listed his birthplace on censuses as > various places. > > again thanks, Ken and Alice! > Beth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?"  My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown knodish1@mac.com -----Inline Message Follows----- Thank you Ken for bringing this topic up.  I have a suggestion for everyone. For everyone who has an idea that their ancestors came from the above countries why not post your last known ancestor with their brothers and sisters if you know them. If possible a picture of that ancestor. I am out of country and this email will not allow attachments while out of country but I do have another email if anyone thinks they may be related.  Although it may be your direct line it would help others to connect the dots. I also belong to the Brown DNA and have from almost the start. My brother provided the DNA..have some close  ones but no perfect match. In our case it could be because my family and thousands of others who were stationed  in CFB Gagetown (Oromocto, N.B.) were sprayed with Agent Orange and many other defoliating chemicals from1956 to 1984. So my brothers DNA could be altered.  I have talked to a scientist specializing in Agent Orange in Australia (because of Vietnam) and the head of the DNA project so this possibility. My last know male Brown was John Ebenezer Brown born  November 17 1822 (some census say 1823) in NY and died May 13 1902 Ingham County USA. He also lived in Toledeo and Richfield Ohio before moving to Michigan. First wife Abigail born abt 1827 NY.  Chidren  Aaron Carles, John Cyrrus and George H Brown.  My greatgrandfather Aaron Charles Brown told my grandfather that we were from Dublin Ireland but I have not found any proof.  I believe we may be Scottish possibly via  Ireland.  Ebenezer is more Scottish than Irish at least that is what I have found and I do know it is a English name as well. Carol Brown Parker -----Inline Message Follows----- Is anyone else out there descended from Solomon Brown born Lexington, MA 15 Jan 1756/7 and died in New Haven, VT 6 Jun 1837?  He was married first to Marina Barnett (1759-1802), second to Eunice Bigelow.  Excerpted below is from a cousin's summary of Solomon's history. Solomon grew up in Lexington, Middlesex Co., MA. He was 18 when the Revolutionary War started in Lexington. On 18 Apr 1775 Solomon was returning from the market in Boston when he passed a patrol of British soldiers heading for Lexington. He knew John Adams and John Hancock were there and he thought the British were going to arrest them. He reported the soldiers to Sgt. William Monroe at Monroe’s Tavern. The alarm went up. Solomon Brown, Jonathan Loring and Elijah Sanderson went out to follow the soldiers and to warn people that the British were on the way. While doing this the 3 were captured by the British at about 10:00 pm. Paul Revere was captured and held with them for doing the same thing. The 4 were released at 2:00 am. On 19 Apr 1775 the first battle of the war started in front of Monroe’s Tavern in Lexington. Solomon was one of the soldiers. He was said to have fired the first shot of the Revolutionary War, wounding a British soldier. This has been repeated in many references although some dispute this or say it is impossible to know. Solomon believed it to be true. Elijah Sanderson was a witness. Solomon pointed out the blood on the ground where the soldier had been wounded. Later in life Solomon was telling the same story in New Haven shortly before he died. The gun was passed down within the family. Other colonists known to have fired that day were: Ebenezer Lock, Ebenezer Munroe Jr., John Munroe, Nathan Munroe, Jonas Parker, William Tidd and possibly Benjamin Sampson. Solomon spent the next five years as a soldier, being discharged on 1 Apr 1780 by General Knox. He was in the MA artillery under Col. John Crane, Capt. Benjamin Eustis. He was in the Northern Army under General Schuyler and was involved in the marches against British Capt. John Burgoyne and in the battle of Ticonderoga. He spent the winter camped at Valley Forge. He was a sergeant at Ft. Schuyler (Utica, NY) where he was in charge of supplies. This job prepared him for being a grocer after the war. After his discharge he lived at Nine Partners (Pauling, Dutchess Co.) NY. He married Marina and started a grocery business. Shortly after he moved to Vermont (prior to 1785) where all of his children were born. By 1790 he had 6 children here. He built a log house and started a grocery business (selling among other things flour, tobacco, salt, codfish and rum) in New Haven, Addison Co., VT, about 1.5 miles south of the meetinghouse at the foot of Beech Hill (on present day South St.). In 1800 he built a brick house here. Solomon was a deacon of the church. He ran into trouble with the church in Nov 1803 when he planned to marry a woman (2nd wife Eunice Bigelow, Marina had died in 1802) who had lived with one or two other men. He had 6 children with Eunice for a total of 17. Solomon sold land in New Haven starting in 1794: 100 acres, 4th division, to William Lampson for ₤50 on 10 Nov 1794; 1 acre, 5th division, to Luther Covarts for 9 schillings on 5 Dec 1795; 40 acres, 5th division, to William Lark for ₤60 on 1 Mar 1798 (he had bought this property from Elijah Foot on 14 May 1797 for ₤40); 40 acres, lot #30 (3rd division), to James Abernathy for $310 on 7 May 1807; 3 lots of #60 (3rd division) to Nobel and Ira Stewart for $150 on 20 Nov 1807; 4 acres, 7th division, to Frederick Bird for $8 on 30 Oct 1823 and 7 acres, 8th division, to Ziba Gifford for $50 on 11 May 1827. Most of this land was near his home lot on South Street. On 4 Jul 1832 Solomon applied for a Revolutionary War pension in New Haven. Solomon died on 6 Jun 1837 in New Haven. His will went to probate court on 30 Jun 1837 (it was dated 11 Apr 1837). The executors were wife Eunice (1775 to 25 Jan 1839) and sons George W. and Ira. Solomon’s 5 sons that lived out of town received money: Samuel ($120), Morris ($150), William ($150), James ($150), Solomon ($115). Wife Eunice got one third of the estate and the 5 children living in New Haven (Ira, Geo. W., Betsy, Nelson, and Laura Palmer) divided the remainder. They sold off parts of the farm during the next 10 years. The value of the estate was appraised on 5 Sep 1837 for $6192.30. Solomon had 250 acres of land with buildings. Animals included oxen, cows, horses, sheep, pigs and bees. Tools included grindstones, an ax, augers, saws, forks, rakes, a ladder, a crowbar, a pitchfork, chains, plows, saddles, sap buckets, guns and wagons. Kitchenware included a stove, brass kettles, utensils, wrought iron ware, pewter, wood ware, tubs, barrels, stone ware, silver plated utensils and baskets. Furniture included tables (pine and cherry), cupboards, 9 bed stands, bed linen, a loom, chairs and trunks. He also had a buffalo robe, a coat, candles, books and glasses. Some of the items produced on the farm were wool, leather, wheat, oats, hay, corn, potatoes, peas, rye, pork and maple sugar. Solomon's children were: first wife:         Morris         James -  in Malone, NY in 1820         William (Jul 1785-27 Jul 1874) in Malone in 1820         Samuel b. (29 Mar 1786) Vermont m. (29 Mar 1812) Hannah Heath, Malone         Polly b. (1789) d. New Haven (24 May 1818)         Chauncey b. (1790) VT  m. Clarissa Hazen d. Wisconsin (1863)         Solomon b. (1791) m. Clarissa Blanchard  -  moved from Malone NY to Fulton Co. IL in 1835  d. (1839) second wife:         Betsy b. (17 Jul 1805) d. (1891)         Ira b. (22 Aug 1807) New Haven  m. Eitha Bogue  m. Hannah Turner  d. New Haven (20 Feb 1894)         Edwin b. (1812) d. (17 Oct 1836)         George W. b. (1812) m. Sarah  d. (1893)         Laura b. (Nov 1814) m. Chester Palmer  d. (2 Aug 1879)         Nelson b. (25 Nov 1818) m. (8 May 1839) Nancy Farr  d. (1884)         There were 4 other children for a total of 17. Would be interested to know if there are others out there who descend from Solomon Brown.  TIA Barbara -----Inline Message Follows----- Found this on an internet newspaper site and thought it might be of interest to descendants: Brown, James -- James Brown of Sharon Township, Richland County, Ohio, died on Wednesday, August 19th, A.D. 1885, aged 91 years, 6 months, and one day.  Mr. Brown was born in Wellsburg, Brooke County, West Virginia, February 18th, 1794.  He was married to Miss Jane McGuire on June 2nd, A.D. 1814, with whom he lived fifty-five years, and to whom were born ten children, eight of whom they raised to full age, and five of whom only survive him, viz., Danforth, Oliver, Sally, Harriet, and Martha.  He also had nineteen grandchildren, and seven great grandchildren.  Mr. Brown died on a farm on which the deceased had moved fifty years ago last May.  His remains were interred in Oakland Cemetery in Shelby, on Friday last, at about noon, Rev. W.W. Anderson pastor of the Presbyterian Church at Bellville officiated, and at the home preached a short discourse based on the sixth verse of the 90th Psalm, "In the evening it is cut down and withereth."  He was severely and painfully ill only the last few days of his life.  His wife was a devoted Catholic, but he was brought up in the Presbyterian faith, though never formally uniting with that church.  He moved to this locality about the year 1834, perhaps a few years after, having purchased the farm on which he spent the best part of his years about 1820, 65 years ago and resided upon it as his homestead about fifty years last May.  His wife died about sixteen years ago, since which time he has resided with his children.  He is the last of a family of twelve children who lived to a great old age.  His father before him lived to be over ninety-two years old.  He was the son of Capt. Oliver Brown, of Revolutionary fame, who was a native of Lexington, Mass., and took part in that, the first battle of the Revolutionary war.  His ancestors came from England, and of them but little is known except that one of them was a "sea captain." The Browns were amongst the first who settled in the colony of Massachusetts, and were loyal subjects of the English crown, but as the years rolled on their attachment became stronger for their home, and they began to regard the mother country as a cruel tyrant.  Although Capt. Brown was born in Lexington, he spent his earlier years in Cambridge, with a Mr. (Col.) Thatcher (married to one of Oliver's cousins), of whose family he became a member at the age of eight. Captain Brown happened to be in Boston on the day the tea was thrown overboard, and he saw the party dressed in the garb of Mohawk Indians, as they threw the boxes of tea overboard.  His father was to relate how that act had worked up the feelings of the royalists and the patriots to the highest pitch of excitement. It was then and there he resolved to devote his life, if need be, to the cause of his country.  He became a warrior in feeling and in deed.  He was engaged at the Battle of Lexington.  He well remembered the day on which Lord Percy marched from Boston to reinforce the party who had gone to undertake the destruction of the military stores at Concord, and was with those who met the British troops at Lexington on their return, and was engaged in that skirmish although he escaped uninjured himself, saw his comrades fall by his side, cut down by the first discharge of British artillery in the Revolutionary War.  When the British began to retreat to Boston, he was one of those who hung upon their flanks, and annoyed them with shots from behind stone fences until they came within reach of the guns in the fortifications around Boston.  The War had now commenced and peaceful avocations were laid aside, and thousands rushed to Bunker Hill where that great battle was fought June 17, 1775.  He was in that battle where Warren fell, and soon after received a Captain's commission in the Artillery, having command of two field pieces.  After the evacuations he went with General Washington's army to New York, and was engaged in a battle on the Island.  Those who are conversant with history will remember how a party of soldiers saw a statue of King George of England occupying a prominent position in the streets of New York, an object of peculiar hatred to the American soldiers.  Capt. Brown conceived the idea of removing the offensive monument and at night he went with a party of about forty of his comrades about half of whom were sailors.  The sailors fastened strong ropes to the object of their hatred, and he and his comrades in a dark alley opposite pulled at the ropes until the rope broke, the statue fell to the pavement below, outside the iron fence enclosing it.  The news of the occurrence spread throughout the camp.  Unexpectedly the act met with the strongest condemnation from General Washington which caused Captain Brown always to regret his part in that transaction.  However, in the pursuance of orders, he removed the statue from its iron support to the laboratory to be molded into bullets for the use of the army.  Although the act could not be concealed, the perpetrators of it were never known.  A short time after this event, General Washington left New York and occupied Harlem Heights, and Captain Brown was in the engagement at that place, in command of thirty men and two field pieces.  He had at one time advanced too far in the pursuit of the enemy and found himself in danger of losing his artillery.  He seized one of the wagons himself, fifteen of his men having been killed and wounded, and succeeded in getting them away.  At that moment General Putnam rode up to him and said "so long as officers will, like you, perform the duties of privates, there will be no reason to despair of the American cause."  The General then himself dismounted and aided him in preventing their capture by the British.  Captain Brown was next engaged at the Battle of White Plains, in which the Americans were defeated.  He was with the American Army during their famous retreats through New Jersey, of which Bancroft speaks, where hundreds of regular troops and militia deserted in despair, but he and his men remained true to the last.  The Battle of Trenton and Princeton were next fought in which he participated, which proved that even in defeat, and on the retreat, the race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.  After these battles he was stationed at Round Brook and Mud Fort.  In September of the following year he was at the Battle of Brandywine during the whole day.  He served nearly through the whole war, and was in ten severe engagements, the last of which was the Battle of Monmouth.  He was personally acquainted with General Washington for whom he entertained the highest reverence.  He was with him at the Battle of Germantown, going in with sixty men and coming out with only twenty-nine alive and with him also in winter quarters at Valley Forge.  He personally received the thanks of Washington for prompt and efficient obedience to orders.  In 1790 or 1791 he moved with his family to what is now Wellsburg, West Virginia, where the subject of this notice was born as stated in 1794.  At that time Wellsburg was in the midst of a wild and unbroken wilderness, the haunt of wild beasts and savages, and for three years Capt. Brown performed the duties of a militiaman to protect the settlement from the incursion of murderous savages.  Solomon Brown of New Haven, Vermont, a brother of the deceased, was also a Revolutionary soldier.  In a slip placed in the hands of the writer taken from the Middlebury (Vermont) Free Press, it is stated that he was a man of strong natural powers, of great probity, uncommon firmness of mind and purpose, severe justice and Christian candor and meekness.  He held many public trusts, which he discharged with fidelity and promptness.  He was one of that class of community who are the support of society, the pillars of the church and the ornament of the state and Republic.  Solomon was also a participator in the Battle at Lexington on April 19th, 1775, and had the unrivaled honor of having shed the first British blood in the defense of American liberty!  He was also a teenager who is credited with, having spotted the British redcoats coming down the road, ran to the local tavern and alerted Paul Revere and his friends.  This Deacon Solomon Brown was a sergeant in the artillery, five years in the Revolution, and a subordinate in his brother's company, we believe.  At his death, it was said, he left as a legacy to his family an honest name, a guiltless example and a well-spent life.  This was the ancestry from which sprung the subject of this sketch, the late James Brown, one of the pioneers of Shelby. Years ago, he placed in the hands of the writer, newspapers from which we have taken the foregoing, with the injunction, that in case of his death, he desired to state that he had during all his life time desired so much as in his power lay to emulate the principles, the patriotism and virtues of his Revolutionary ancestry, and we now are discharging that duty, and fulfilling that promise.  James Brown was our special friend, for over thirty years, respected for his manly virtues, steadfast friendship, honest purposes, mildness and generosity of character, candid in all his dealings, and in every grace that goes to cast a halo of glory like that of a setting sun, upon all the past life of an aged man.  It was our good fortune to visit him at his home, when he could lengthen out our notice of his death by many instances of his wroth as a man and citizen.  He was one of the pioneer merchants and businessmen of Shelby, and closed his life in a model rural home as a farmer, and now at the extraordinary age of nearly ninety-two years, like a ripe shock of corn, and the very appropriate emblem placed upon his coffin by the hands of reverential affection, a miniature sheaf of wheat, full of golden grain, he has been garnered for eternity, to be with those whose example he delighted to follow, and emulated day by day so far as in his power lay.  We should not be following his directions were we to say any more than this.  It was against his wish that this should be done, but having passed through a long life, in the footsteps of his ancestry, it was one of his ambitions in life to emulate their example and to record this much as an example for his descendants to follow, is why he desired this to be recorded at his death.  Peace to his ashes, and may the memory of his private virtues ever be green in the memories of those who follow him.  "B."  Submitted by Judith.  [source unknown] Brown, Jane (McGuire) -- Mrs. Jane (McGuire) Brown was born in Brooke County, Virginia, April 27, 1793.  She was married to James Brown, Esq., in 1814, and lived happily with her husband over fifty-five years.  She was brought up in the Catholic faith, and baptized by the first minister of that denomination in that section of country: and lived and died in accordance with her early instructions.  She was the mother of ten children, seven of whom are yet living, and to whom she was more than ordinarily attached.  She endured the privations of a pioneer life, having removed to Ohio, thrity-four years ago.  She lived to see her great-grandchildren and died beloved and respected by her numerous circle of friends.  She died September 16th, 1869, aged 76 years, 4 months, and 19 days.  Her last illness was of five weeks' duration, and her extreme suffering was borne with Christian patience---not a murmur escaping her lips.  Submitted by Judith.  [source unknown]  Submitter's Note:  I have her Death Certificate, Court of Common Pleas, Probate Division, Richland County.....death: 16 Sept 1869;  Date of record:  1869;  Married;  Place of Death: Plymouth Twp.;  Place of Birth:  West Virginia (was Va. at the time .. panhandle area which was Ohio/Va/WVA over the years);  Last Place of Residence:  Plymouth Township;  We located her tombstone, along with husband James Brown, and children, in Oakland Cemetery in Shelby. -----Inline Message Follows----- Hi, I have a William Brown whose youngest child was born in Chatooga, Ga. and the family moved to Marshall Co. Alabama but William was not with them in Alabama.  I do not know what happen to William, whether he died in Ga. or in route to Ala. or in Ala but he was not present in the 1860 census.  My William married Elizabeth ?.  They had children of Gilford Hutchinson, James A., Michael C. and others.  Does this connect with your William?  I would appreciate a reply because I have hit a brick wall with my William.  Wayne > From: Fourkruegers@aol.com > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:41:21 -0400 > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN SC 1780-1790 to 1850 > > I have a William Brown > Born abt 1784 in SC > died in Chatooga, GA on July 2 1858 > M. Nancy Pruitt > dona krueger > > > ************** > Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from > anywhere on the web. 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