Hi American Browns I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! Cheers Ken Brown OZ

Hi Ken, I have 3 different Brown lines (at least I haven't been able to connect them) 1. Mary Brown who married Jeremiah Claypool circa 1798- no further info on her. 2. Mary Brown who married Jonas Sparks (Her father was Johan Braun = John Brown ~German Descent) 3. James Frank Brown who married Martha H. Sparks - I thought he was of German descent from Johan Braun, but now I have been told by others that he may have been Irish. Not sure of that one. James Frank was born 1850 in North Carolina. I welcome any and all clues. Thanks! Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 5:46 AM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with > interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an > American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown > families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would > imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do > you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those > enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American > Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came > from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the > paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, > courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two > American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from > as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's > hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ken, I know how you feel . I have been looking for my Brown's for 20+ years. But one thing we need to remember about America records is that alot were destroyed in the Civil War.Correct me if I am wrong here folks. And Brown is such a common name. Good luck on your research. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with > interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an > American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown > families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would > imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do > you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those > enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American > Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came > from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the > paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, > courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two > American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from > as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's > hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Some records were destroyed in the Civil War, but also, the farther back we go in the USA, the sketchier the records get. Remember that there wasn't even a national census until 1790. Tax records and the like don't tend to include much information, and not everybody left a will. I assume my Browns were from England or Scotland, but I just haven't been able to find any information to tell me more about their origins. Wish I could! My first documented Brown, by the way, was John Brown, who married Sarah Gist (d/o Joshua Gist) in 1793 in Jefferson County, Tennessee. I don't know where he was before Tennessee--perhaps just over the line in Greene County, North Carolina, where the Gists were. John Brown is just too common a name! Beverly Peavler On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:04 AM, smokiethecat wrote: > Ken, > I know how you feel . I have been looking for my Brown's for 20+ > years. But > one thing we need to remember about America records is that alot were > destroyed in the Civil War.Correct me if I am wrong here folks. And > Brown is > such a common name. Good luck on your research. > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:46 AM > Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > > >> Hi American Browns >> >> I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries >> with >> interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. >> >> It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an >> American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the >> American Brown >> families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I >> would >> imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came >> from. Do >> you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those >> enquiries? >> >> Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of >> American >> Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores >> came >> from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? >> >> In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the >> paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, >> courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. >> >> As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two >> American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors >> came from >> as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. >> >> I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of >> Sorn and >> Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for >> American >> Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy >> seeing >> some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in >> the >> U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on >> let's >> hear from you! >> >> Cheers >> >> Ken Brown >> OZ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Good Post Ken....We have pretty good records back to around 1800, but it gets a lot more sparse any further back than that. I have not been able to find information on where my Brown ancestors originated. It has really been disappointing, because one of my goals in life is to visit where they are from. As near as I can determine they were from a Celtic country. My ggg? grandfather was a stowaway and may not have even been a Brown before coming to America. Brown is the 5th most common surname in the US. The Brown DNA study is a great help, but we don't see many participants from the UK. I have members of the Brown family line that say our ancestors came from Germany. I don't think that this information is accurate. The family story goes like this. As a young man Grandpa got drunk one evening a stomped a crab idol. To keep him out of trouble, his friends put him in a coffin and slipped him aboard a ship that was sailing to America. I believe that my most distant Brown ancestor (known at this time), John L. Brown, was born in NC in 1808. If anyone has information on this family I would be very interested. Thanks, Randall Colston Ken & Alice Brown wrote: > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

For many years we were told that we were Brown's not Bryant's; I had no proof until my cousin paid a man to search some records in Indiana; I had sent for those records many years ago but I was not sent the full contract? Between William and Edith Margaret Clawson Bryant; I now have copy in hand with proof just who grandfathers parents were. Our Bryant's do not connect to a blood line. Our blood line is Brown, so in that research I am locating the two families that we come from. With the money paid to a researcher (by Gene Bryant my cousin) that found the marriage license of William and Edith; with the parents' information; Mother; Ellen Johnson - b 1835 Stark, Ohio, USA d 1901 Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN Father; William H. Brown b.18 Oct 1822 Clinton, Ohio. d 20 Apr 1889 Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN For reasons only known to them why they gave my Grandfather to persons unknown at this time; but we do know who had him in the 1880 census. My grandfather William Henry (Brown) Bryant; b 03 Nov 1868 in Decatur county; Washington Township; Indiana. Further information of 1880 census reported he was 9 years old and Thomas Franklin (Frank) Bryant had taken him to raise. We had our DNA don and have no Brown connections as yet; but we do have Two matches 99% to the "Rock" Clan; Australia if I remember correctly. I have tracked the Brown's from Indiana to Ohio and back to PA. I have no land records just census. I have tracked the Johnson also; I have wondered if they belonged to some group that had 1 wife and other woman also; there was no marriage between William and Ellen Johnson; Ellen in all census was living with family; parents then with a brother her death was 1901 I did find William Henry Brown on the "Orphan Train" put on in Indiana and taken off in Indiana in 1871; no records found; no adoption found; no court records found. Any help or ideas welcome. Ellie Warsaw MO. USA -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken & Alice Brown Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:47 AM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND Hi American Browns I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! Cheers Ken Brown OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release Date: 04/18/09 09:55:00