Thank you, Ken. I looked at my data and I am R1b1b with no 2 at the end like yours. I don't know what that means. I have not educated myself on the DNA work like I probably should. What you say about the Maxwell and Ramsey names being from Scotland seem to make sense. With 37/37 markers I have 1 Maxwell and 1 Ramsey. With 36/37 I have 1 Maxwell. With 35/37 I have 1 Maxwell. With 34/37 I have 2 Maxwell and 1 White. With 34/37 I have 4 Maxwell. Nary a Brown. I do not understand what you mean about the Google search. Frank Brown Kansas City Frank I have traced my Broun/Brown ancestry on the paper trail to 1500 in Scotland and could get no further. So I did both a Y -DNA and mtDNA test. The results were that I got close matches to a number of Browns. But I also got a lot of close matches to names like Burns, Hamilton, Ramsey, Maxwell. All of these names have something in common - they are Scottish surnames. So with you and me I would suggest, before surnames became common , our tribe in Scotland lived possibly for thousands of years. By the time surnames started coming in, different surnames were adopted but the underlying DNA was similar or exactly the same in some cases. I would say yes, you are related to these Ramseys and Maxwells but way back before surnames started to be used. You haven't a snowballs chance in hell of matching up with them on the paper trail. By the way my Y-DNA is R1b1b2. Those of you that have had your Y-DNA done try this little experiment. In inverted commas put in Google your first 12 DNA m! arkers. I did that and I hit a website called Border Reivers. My DNA was most closely associated with the borders of Scotland/England where in fact my paper trail had led me. Ken Brown Gold Coast Australia