Ken, The deceased Maxwell was a 33/37 match with me. I think I will tend to concentrate on those who were perfect matches or no less than 35/37 matches. There are four of them. I was contacted by one of those whose Maxwell line was in Alabama in the late 1850's. He could not go any farther back than that although surely his ancestors passed through Virginia or North Carolina. Anyway, he said he is a 65/67 match with a man who lives on some ancestral Maxwell lands in Scotland. I am a 37/37 match with him and will find out soon how I match with the guy in Scotland as I have paid to upgrade to the 67 marker as well. This is an exciting development. Speaking of Clan Lamont, I had a woman in the Young line say that the Young line changed it's name from Lamont to Young because of the Campbells kicking their behinds. Know anything about that? The Andrew M. Brown does not ring a bell to me. I delete anything that does not relate to me. Frank Brown Kansas City Hey Frank Don't abandon hope on the Maxwell who died at 93 although it may raise an interesting legal question if the deceased gentleman submitted his DNA in his own name. From your E-Mail though I gather that his daughter submitted her father's DNA sample in which case the company that tested his DNA would still have the sample and can do a 37 test on it at the daughters request. I deduce this from the fact that the company with which I tested can upgrade my 37 test to 60 something WITHOUT me sending them another swab. The fascinating thing is that our DNA lives on long after we are gone. After all scientists have even extracted DNA from Neanderthal bones and have proven that we humans are not Neanderthal descendants even though you see people around today that you figure should be! On this subject, a good book to read is 'DNA and Family History' It's about how genetic testing can advance your genealogical research. It's by a bloke named Chris Pomery. We Brown descendants obviously have multiple ancestors as the name Brown can be derived from so many sources. For example in Scotland the name McGregor was banned by the English and many McGregors changed their name to Brown. In Scotland the name Brown is recognized by the Clan Lamont, this is because in 1646 the Campbell's almost wiped out the Lamonts and to hide from the Campbell's many Lamonts changed their name to Brown, White and Black. In my case I have found my Brown ancestors back in Scotland to 1500 and so I know I am neither a Lamont OR McGregor. I have close matches to five Brown's at FamilytreeDNA but unfortunately they are all Americans who's paper trail doesn't reach back to either Scotland or Northern Ireland and so frustratingly we can't match up on the paper trail. If they ever do though I feel that I will be able to help them jump back 300 year on their family trees. Here's hoping. By the way, could the lady who posted recently that she had found a Andrew M Brown (b. 1838) and a Frank Brown in the 1921 census for Niagara, NY please repost as I've wiped the E-Mail. My question though is what relationship was Frank Brown to Andrew M Brown? Thank you. Ken Brown Gold Coast Australia.