Hi Ken, I am a little behind in these e-mails because of Christmas and lobbying our Canadian Government last week in Ottawa because of Agent Orange & other chemicals. I know I owe a few of you a reply and I will as soon as possible. I have a few questions. 1. My brother submitted his DNA to the Brown DNA study through FTDna as I stated before. We were sprayed with Agent Orange Purple and White at CFB Gagetown NB Canada 56-84. It can change your DNA. I have been told this could make a difference in us getting a match. We have not had any matches and we joined at the beginning. I know others do not have matches as well. So does anyone recommend me getting another Brown male to submit and if so what level of testing. Right now we have done a 12 and 25 but looks like a 67 might be better or should we wait until we get a 25 step match. 2. Ken would you say the name John Ebenezer Brown could be Irish? I am thinking Scottish or English? How about the first name Aaron? I have used the naming patterns for all 3 countries without any luck. Ken I knew about the Lamonts but not the McGregor's. Wonder if there are other names change like these ones? Speaking for myself I cannot get back further than 1822 NY state but have a huge amount of information after that date. I can not find anything to help me go further back. 3. You are correct that a lot of the Irish records were blown up in Dublin. Supposedly according to my ggrandfather that is where we came from but I have no proof and basically whatever else he did say I have proven wrong. 4. I have been searching my Brown line for 23 years. John Ebenezer Brown was according to census born in New York State. Has anyone heard of a person using the place where they emigrated to such as NY for their place of birth. One person told me a few years ago that was the case? 5. I use Ancestry.com Deluxe and have for a long time and rootsweb. Can anyone recommend a good place to research for people who were born in New York State? I live in NB Canada so it has to be done on line. Thank you to everyone for all there opinons and help..greatly appreciated. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Carol Brown Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with > interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an > American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown > families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would > imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do > you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those > enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American > Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came > from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the > paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, > courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two > American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from > as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's > hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have an Irish line, Lyons, who seem to have listed both Ireland and NY as their birth places depending on which document you are looking at. There are so many John and Mary Lyons that I'm not yet sure I have one couple and not two different ones, but your question about this possibly happening in your line gives me one more reason to belive that is what happened with my Lyons couple.   I have several lines that seem to change places of birth from census to census yet are the same people. Occassionally there was a stigma about the country they were born in or the fact that they weren't born American. Accurate birth places and dates didn't seem to be set in stone. Also divorced women often said they were widowed.   Carolyn Brown stuck on William Ehteridge/Ethridge Brown b May 25, 1859 or May 25, 1861 --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND REPLY To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 10:31 PM Hi Ken, I am a little behind in these e-mails because of Christmas and lobbying our Canadian Government last week in Ottawa because of Agent Orange & other chemicals. I know I owe a few of you a reply and I will as soon as possible. I have a few questions. 1. My brother submitted his DNA to the Brown DNA study through FTDna as I stated before. We were sprayed with  Agent Orange Purple and White at CFB Gagetown NB Canada 56-84.  It can change your DNA. I have been told this could make a difference in us getting a match. We have not had any matches and we joined at the beginning. I know others  do not have matches as well. So does anyone recommend me getting another Brown male to submit and if so what level of testing. Right now we have done a 12 and 25 but looks like a 67 might be better or should we wait until we get a 25 step match. 2. Ken would you say the name John Ebenezer Brown could be Irish? I am thinking Scottish or English? How about the first name Aaron? I have used the naming patterns for all 3 countries without any luck. Ken I knew about the Lamonts but not the McGregor's. Wonder if there are other names change like these ones? Speaking for myself I cannot get back further than 1822 NY state but have a huge amount of information after that date. I can not find anything to help me go further back. 3. You are correct that a lot of the Irish records were blown up in Dublin. Supposedly according to my ggrandfather that is where we came from but I have no proof and basically whatever else  he did say I have proven wrong. 4. I have been searching my Brown line for 23 years. John Ebenezer Brown was according to census born in New York State. Has anyone heard of a person using the place where they emigrated to such as NY for their place of birth. One person told me a few years ago that was the case? 5. I use Ancestry.com Deluxe and have for a long time and rootsweb. Can anyone recommend a good place to research for people who were born in New York State? I live in NB Canada so it has to be done on line. Thank you to everyone for all there opinons and help..greatly appreciated. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Carol Brown Parker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with > interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an > American Brown, on how few  postings there are on where the American Brown > families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would > imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do > you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those > enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American > Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came > from?  The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia,  my father was a Scot and on the > paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, > courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two > American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from > as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy  seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's > hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message