My 2 ggf Ferdinand BROWN was born 19 July 1830 in Loitz, Prussia, (Germany). He was in the USA by 1864, and on 14 July of that year married Martha C. WREN(N). Their children were: 1) Max Emil BROWN born 19 Feb 1865, Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH, USA died 4 Sep 1903 Married Adele DEUL 23 Nov 1898 in Detroit, MI, USA 2) Charlie August BROWN born 9 Feb 1867 Mount Gilead, Morrow, OH, USA died 21 May 1894 Married Emma Lavina MOTSCH 8 Mar 1893 in Crawford County, OH, USA [These are my great-grandparents; they have no living descendants other than me and my siblings and our children, in case that helps anyone eliminate a possible Charlie BROWN]. 3) Wilhelm Gustave BROWN born 4 Mar 1869 Mt. Gilead, Morrow, OH, USA died 17 Feb 1949 Married: a) Maggie L. MINARD 7 Oct 1889 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH, USA (Maggie was born 15 Aug 1868 in Peru, Huron, OH, USA) b) Hattie Maria (UNKNOWN) HERR 28 Apr. 1935 in Galion, Crawford, OH, USA (Mrs. Herr was a widow at the time and her maiden name is unknown to me) 4) Allis Emma BROWN b. 14 Oct 1871 Mt. Gilead, Morrow, OH, USA died 27 Apr 1881 (age 9) 5) Frank Walter BROWN b 21 Jul 1875, Mt. Gilead, Morrow, OH, USA Married: a) May E. BAUGHMAN 2 Feb 1896 in Mt. Gilead, Morrow, OH, USA b) Maybell (May Arabella) CANNON 29 Sep 1914 in Cardington, Morrow, OH, USA (Maybell was born 12 Oct 1890 in Walker County, GA, USA) In the 1870 Census, Alice BALL age 9 and Emma BALL age 3 are living in the BROWN household. Hope this helps someone. Nancy near Seattle, WA, USA