Here's one web site address for railroad history: http://www.historync.org/railroads.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary A Kunkle" <mary.kunkle@juno.com> To: <BROWN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: [BROWN] Lucinda, Daniel, Henry Brown 1840-1855 > Lucinda Brown, born 1840 NC married William Harrison EUDY in TN > > A family story says Daniel Brown, born 1852(3) AL says that Daniel > married his niece. He married Lauranie(Lou) EUDY, daughter of Lucinda > (Brown) EUDY. > > Henry D. Brown born 1855 TN is brother of Daniel. > > These people converge on Celina, TN in the early 1870's. Daniel married > Lauranie EUDY and Henry married Julia DILWORTH in Celina, TN in the same > year. > > We can find no census where these people are together until 1900 in > Temple Hill, Glasgow, Barren County, KY. > > Could this family have easily travelled from NC, to AL and then back to > TN during this time period of their births? > Can anyone point me to any writings from this period that describe the > modes of transportation in these areas after 1840 to 1870's? > > Thanks much. > Mary (Brown) Flowers > Midlothian, TX > ____________________________________________________________ > Sleep with security. Protect your family with a home security system > today. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw25c9hwouaFNY5wkFG2Hw46YnIdedYd6Y5iJzOXlxL4c3t2V/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Well, as far as I know, I certainly don't think it was easy travelling, but they could have done it, I'm think. There was no other form of transportation that I know of, other than by wagon trains, by horseback, by stagecoach, or by boats or steamboats. Also, railroads powered by steam locomotion were started up fairly early. Does anybody know of any other forms of transportation during that time frame? You can go on the Internet, you know, and put any word up at the top, like railroad history, steamboat history, whatever, and press "Search" and see what you get. Good luck. Sue Howard > Could this family have easily travelled from NC, to AL and then back to > TN during this time period of their births? > Can anyone point me to any writings from this period that describe the > modes of transportation in these areas after 1840 to 1870's? > > Thanks much. > Mary (Brown) Flowers > Midlothian, TX > ____________________________________________________________ > Sleep with security. Protect your family with a home security system > today. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw25c9hwouaFNY5wkFG2Hw46YnIdedYd6Y5iJzOXlxL4c3t2V/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Lucinda Brown, born 1840 NC married William Harrison EUDY in TN A family story says Daniel Brown, born 1852(3) AL says that Daniel married his niece. He married Lauranie(Lou) EUDY, daughter of Lucinda (Brown) EUDY. Henry D. Brown born 1855 TN is brother of Daniel. These people converge on Celina, TN in the early 1870's. Daniel married Lauranie EUDY and Henry married Julia DILWORTH in Celina, TN in the same year. We can find no census where these people are together until 1900 in Temple Hill, Glasgow, Barren County, KY. Could this family have easily travelled from NC, to AL and then back to TN during this time period of their births? Can anyone point me to any writings from this period that describe the modes of transportation in these areas after 1840 to 1870's? Thanks much. Mary (Brown) Flowers Midlothian, TX ____________________________________________________________ Sleep with security. Protect your family with a home security system today. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw25c9hwouaFNY5wkFG2Hw46YnIdedYd6Y5iJzOXlxL4c3t2V/

Hello all Brown researchers; William's parents names taken from marriage record William Henry (Brown) Bryant age 26 Edith Margaret Clawson age 16. William Henry (Brown) Bryant was born 3 Nov 1868 Washington, Delaware, Indiana This is my grandfather; we also through my brother have taken a DNA and so far no Brown matches. I have tracked both parents of William Henry Brown (my grandfather) this I hope fits one of you out there I don't think DNA is a quick fix. I am still tracking to see who had my grandfather until I found him in the 1880 census In the home of Thomas F & Catherine (Harty) Bryant stated taken to raise. Thomas and Catherine did not marry until 1871 and Catherine was with her family and 16 years of age in 1870 census. This is my grandfather's half brothers and sisters. Sarah C Brown William's first wife Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Birth Place: North Carolina Gender: Female Home in 1850(City,County,State): District 24, Delaware, Indiana Household Members: Name Age Sarah C Brown 21 Wm Brown 27 The census of William Henry Brown; 1860; with his first wife Sarah Ann Catherine Lee. (I researched her) with their children. Sarah A C Brown Age in 1860: 32 Birth Year: abt 1828 Birthplace: North Carolina Home in 1860: Washington, Delaware, Indiana Gender: Female Post Office: New Comer Value of real estate: View Image Household Members: Name Age William Brown 37 Sarah A C Brown 32 Samuel P Brown 7 Emiline Brown 5 Mary J Brown 5 Thomas Barrett 21 Now I tracked the second wife and children Hannah McCreery b Tuscarawas, Ohio, Married 20 Mar 1866 Home in 1870: Washington, Delaware, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View Image Post Office: Muncie Household Members: Name Age William Brown 50 Hannah Brown 38 Samuel P Brown 17 Aisley e Brown 15 Anna J Brown 12 Nathan A J Brown 8 Sarah's; children up Sarah E Brown 2 Hannah's; children down Cora Etta Brown 4/12 Mary E Myers 10 As you can see my grandfather is in none of the families including in the search I did on his mother Ellen Johnson; It has been listed Ellen was a housekeeper but not that I could find in the Brown home. I tracked Samuel P Brown through to 1910 census there were no children also 1920 In that census it stated no children born to this couple. This is a half brother of my grandfather. Samuel P. Brown Born: Nov 1852 Delaware County, Indiana. Died: 1924 Married about 1875 Indiana Spouse; Sarah J Birth: Oct 1857 Indiana. Death: 1936 I am working on Nathan Nathan A J Brown Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Age in 1870: 8 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1870: Washington, Delaware, Indiana Race: White Gender: Male Nathan A J Brown Spouse Name: Mary A Janney Marriage Date: 5 Feb 1882 Marriage County: Delaware Source Title 1: Delaware County, Indiana Source Title 2: Index to Marriage Record 1827-1920 Inclusive Volum Source Title 3: W. P. A. Original Record Located: County Clerk's O Book: C7 OS Page: 546 Nathan A Brown [Nathan A J Brown] Home in 1900: Washington, Delaware, Indiana Age: 38 Birth Date: Sep 1861 Birthplace: Indiana Race: White Ethnicity: American Relationship to head-of-house: Head Father's Birthplace: Ohio Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Spouse's Name: Mary A Marriage Year: 1881 Marital Status: Married Years Married: 19 Residence : Washington Township (North Half), Delaware, Indiana Occupation: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Nathan A Brown 38 Mary A Brown 37 Walter S Brown 12 Omer V Brown 10 Idona M Brown 4 B Brown 2 ---------------------tracked B Brown is Zilla C Brown b Apr 1898 Work in progress on this Nathan Brown family; looking for living link here for DNA. My grandfather took the name Bryant some time after the 1880 census; I was told his mother tried to get him back but he did not want to go with her. My cousin said he was told the father went to get him but he would not go with him. So we don't know just what happened but we do know we are of the Brown's and Johnson's line. Thanks for any reply or idea's Ellie Warsaw MO.

Jim; I can't find # 55 can you instruct me to it. Eleanor (Ellie) -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jimbrown848@bellsouth.net Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:05 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA Eleanor, My DNA data is listed on both BrownSocietyDNA as well as Ancestry.com for you to be able to check out. In answer to your question, no I did not come back with a match for a "Rock" family. I am shown under group #55 as Samuel James Brown,Jr....I think you and I have corresponded before,but not sure. God Bless Jim -------------- Original message from "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com>: -------------- > > In the meantime, given the lack of matches to Browns, I've listed Gerald's > DNA numbers among our "unique haplotype" membership, on this page: > > > http://brownsociety.org/browndna/unique.html > ELB > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Barbara Brown Allen > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:16 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > > What is the Haplogroup for this Brown? Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Eleanor Prieskorn > >Sent: Nov 6, 2008 8:36 AM > >To: brown@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > > >Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > > > > > >We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > > > >has any other Brown family done this. > > > > > > > >The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between > >1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b > 1835 > >Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > > > > > >William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 > >children > > > >Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > > > > > >With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E > >Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > > > > > >Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > > > > > >ELB > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________ > "Second star to the right . . . straight on 'til morning." > -- J.M. Barrie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM

Hello List - recently I was contacted about an Emma C. Brown who married Harrison Rumsey who lived in Newfield, NY. Originally the person who contacted me thought she had been born in 1855 in Lodi, CAYUGA Co - but when I looked into it further i found that she had been born in LOCKE - Cayuga Co. The question asked of me was who her parents were..... I eventually determined that Emma C. Brown must be the daughter of Warren and Roxie Brown of Cayuga Co. Here is all what I came up with which I shared with the person who asked the question and thought perhaps I might share you since I just got a photo of Warren and Roxie Brown from the person who had been asking for help. If anyone is related to Warren and Roxie and would like a copy of the photo I could send it to you. #1 - I don't believe that Emma was born in Lodi - I think she was born in Locke, Cayuga Co they look similar - your website noted Lodi, Cayuga County - Lodi was in fact part of Cayuga Co up until about ??? 1804 but had been Seneca County for nearly 50 years when Emma was born. I think it's a case of unintentional human error. Working from this Friday Aug 7th, 1925 article in the Genoa Tribune - a Cayuga County Newspaper (From Nearby Town's Section)--- we link up a Norman Brown with an Elmer Rumsey ---- so I then traced this Norman Brown to see how old he was and what I could learn about him. The article said: Mr. and Mrs. Norman Brown and family, Leo Pulsen sp? and Ralph Hamlin sp? Sunday guest at Elmer Rumsey's in Newfield. Unable to find Emma and determining that Norman "COULD" be from the same family as Emma I followed Norman L. Brown ---- below is Norman in the 1930 Census - through 1880 where I find him with his parents. 1930 Census Venice, Cayuga Co. Norman L. Brown head ae 67 Grace A. Brown wife ae 67 Edith M. Brown daughter ae 37 Leon W. Brown son ae 33 1920 Census Venice, Cayuga Co, Norman L. Brown head ae 57 Grace A. Brown wife ae 43 Lynn W. Brown (Male) son ae 23 1910 Census Locke, Cayuga Co. Norman Brown * head ae 47 Grace Brown wife ae 48 Leon Brown son ae 14 (There is a transcription error here - the index says William Brown - but it's clearly Norman if you look at it - someone has already noticed it and offered a transcription already) 1900 Genoa Cayuga Co. Norman Brown head ae 37 Grace wife ae 39 Edith M. dau ae 9 Leon son ae 5 1880 Locke, Cayuga Co. Warren Brown head ae 63 <------- these people are Norman's parents and they are of age that they could be Emma's parents. Roxa Brown wife ae 57 Hattie Brown dau ae 23 Helen Brown dau ae 20 Norman Brown son ae 17 Having found Norman L. Brown's parents I wanted to see if I could ever find them with Emma as a daughter..... 1870 Locke, Cayuga Co. Warren Brown head ae 53 Roxie wife ae 47 Anson son 21 Harriet dau 12 Helen dau 10 Norman son 7 <- here is Norman but where is Emma? Solomon Willis ? ae 96 <----- I bet you will find that this is Roxie's father..... or at least some relation. 1860 Locke, Cayuga Co. Warren Brown head ae 43 Roxey wife ae 39 Margrette dau ae 18 Sarah J. dau ae 13 Asil (must be Amson) ae 10 Frances ae 9 Emma ae 6 <------- there you go - Emma born about 1855 - I would bet that this is your Emma. Ellen Brown ae 5/12 I can not tell you where Emma is in 1870. Most likely the census it hard to read - the hand writing was sloppy and so she was lost that way. She's probably working out in a home near her home in Locke - or living with a sibling. So - who was Fred Rumsey? -- is the next question - and from the 1880 Census of Emma C. Brown Rumsey - a census known to the inquirer - I find Fred was Emma's son. 1880 Newfield Tompkins Co. Harison E. Rumsey head ae 33 Emma Rumsey head ae 25 <---------- Once again - this is your Emma and there is Elmer - her son. Fred Rumsey son ae 4 Elmer Rumsey son ae 1 So to summarize the newspaper clipping - Norman, Emma C. Brown Rumsey's brother was going to visit his nephew Elmer - his Emma's son. There were other articles at Fulton History that also supported this. 1850 Locke Cayuga, NY Warren Brown head ae 35 <- note all through Warren is born in Vermont ---- Norman's records say his father was born in Vermont. Roseana wife ae 28 Sarah J. ae 6 Lucinda ae 4 Wm M. ae 2 Anson ae 1 True - Emma's 1880 census says her father was born in NY- not Vermont - I don't believe it. Mistakes like that happened all the time. ANOTHER QUESTION THEN - Who is Solomon Willis ? I would bet that Solomon Willis - found 1850 - Census Locke - Cayuga Co. NY = is Roxie's father ---- but I can't prove it. Solomon Willis ae 75 Abigail Willis ae 66 1850 Locke - Cayuga Co Solomon Willis ae 35 Jane Willis ae 31 (wife) Chester Willis ae 8 Mary Willis ae 5 1850 Locke Cayuga Co Jacob Willis ae 32 Emily Willis ae 39 James H. ae 7 Geo W. ae 4 Merrit W. ae 2 Charles R. ae 1 I really think that you will find the Roxie Brown is the daughter Solomon Willis. Best Wishes to All --- write me off list if you wish a copy of the Warren and Roxie Brown photo - it's a pdf file. "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown knodish1@mac.com

I was hoping this Brown-Rock could be Brown-Frock. That is the line I am seeking from MD. Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: <brown-request@rootsweb.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 202 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Brown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BROWN - ROCK (SONAVAN@aol.com) > 2. Re: DNA (Barbara Brown Allen) > 3. Re: DNA (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 4. Re: BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 201 (Joe C Denby) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the BROWN list administrator, send an email to > BROWN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BROWN mailing list, send an email to > BROWN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. >

Eleanor, My DNA data is listed on both BrownSocietyDNA as well as Ancestry.com for you to be able to check out. In answer to your question, no I did not come back with a match for a "Rock" family. I am shown under group #55 as Samuel James Brown,Jr....I think you and I have corresponded before,but not sure. God Bless Jim -------------- Original message from "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com>: -------------- > > In the meantime, given the lack of matches to Browns, I've listed Gerald's > DNA numbers among our "unique haplotype" membership, on this page: > > > http://brownsociety.org/browndna/unique.html > ELB > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Barbara Brown Allen > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:16 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > > What is the Haplogroup for this Brown? Barbara > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Eleanor Prieskorn > >Sent: Nov 6, 2008 8:36 AM > >To: brown@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > > >Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > > > > > >We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > > > >has any other Brown family done this. > > > > > > > >The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between > >1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b > 1835 > >Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > > > > > >William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 > >children > > > >Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > > > > > >With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E > >Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > > > > > >Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > > > > > >ELB > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________ > "Second star to the right . . . straight on 'til morning." > -- J.M. Barrie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

What is the Haplogroup for this Brown? Barbara -----Original Message----- >From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >Sent: Nov 6, 2008 8:36 AM >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BROWN] DNA > >Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > >We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > >has any other Brown family done this. > > > >The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between >1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b 1835 >Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > >William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 >children > >Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > >With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E >Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > >Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > >ELB > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________ "Second star to the right . . . straight on 'til morning." -- J.M. Barrie

I have a Nancy Bryant who married into the James Brown family...go to rootsweb.com and type in Nancy Bryant...your ancestor could have been the child of one of the daughters and raised a brother,. In a message dated 11/6/2008 11:21:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dalell@embarqmail.com writes: What seemed to have happened Beverly was we had the Brown DNA done and so did the Rock family; but his DNA matched the my Brown family but he had none of my line nor did I have any of his. I am on the Brown list and match none at this point; I do know that William Henry Brown b OH; was the father of my grandfather William Henry Brown b IN; and my grandfathers mother was Ellen Johnson b OH; his parents never married; my grandfather was put on the Orphan Train by her or him or someone; where and when there are no records except his name and thought to be birth. I found him in the 1880 census living with the Bryant family It stated took to raise age 9 b IN. Sometime after the 1880 census and before he filled out his marriage records in 25 Aug 1895 he had taken the name Bryant (no adoption)he had put his mother and fathers name on that record. My father and his brothers were the first generation of Bryant's do to grandfathers actions. Thanks for your reply. ELB -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Peavler Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:32 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > Thanks for the reply Dave; > > He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have > paper proof > back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; > his sir > name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no > adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no > DNA found > with them at all. > > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Anderson > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will > both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA > sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any > opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- > versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male > "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, > ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any > other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: > 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

In the meantime, given the lack of matches to Browns, I've listed Gerald's DNA numbers among our "unique haplotype" membership, on this page: http://brownsociety.org/browndna/unique.html ELB -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Brown Allen Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:16 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA What is the Haplogroup for this Brown? Barbara -----Original Message----- >From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >Sent: Nov 6, 2008 8:36 AM >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BROWN] DNA > >Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > >We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > >has any other Brown family done this. > > > >The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between >1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b 1835 >Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > >William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 >children > >Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > >With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E >Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > >Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > >ELB > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________ "Second star to the right . . . straight on 'til morning." -- J.M. Barrie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM

What seemed to have happened Beverly was we had the Brown DNA done and so did the Rock family; but his DNA matched the my Brown family but he had none of my line nor did I have any of his. I am on the Brown list and match none at this point; I do know that William Henry Brown b OH; was the father of my grandfather William Henry Brown b IN; and my grandfathers mother was Ellen Johnson b OH; his parents never married; my grandfather was put on the Orphan Train by her or him or someone; where and when there are no records except his name and thought to be birth. I found him in the 1880 census living with the Bryant family It stated took to raise age 9 b IN. Sometime after the 1880 census and before he filled out his marriage records in 25 Aug 1895 he had taken the name Bryant (no adoption)he had put his mother and fathers name on that record. My father and his brothers were the first generation of Bryant's do to grandfathers actions. Thanks for your reply. ELB -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly Peavler Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:32 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > Thanks for the reply Dave; > > He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have > paper proof > back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; > his sir > name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no > adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no > DNA found > with them at all. > > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Anderson > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will > both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA > sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any > opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- > versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male > "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, > ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any > other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: > 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM

Thanks for the reply Dave; He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have paper proof back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; his sir name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no DNA found with them at all. ELB -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Anderson Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK Eleanor, Re your DNA match to a ROCK Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who submitted the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other matches, or near matches? Dave Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM

Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > Thanks for the reply Dave; > > He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have > paper proof > back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; > his sir > name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no > adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no > DNA found > with them at all. > > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Anderson > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will > both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA > sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any > opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- > versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male > "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, > ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any > other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: > 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > Beverly Peavler bp@peavler.org

Eleanor, Re your DNA match to a ROCK Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who submitted the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other matches, or near matches? Dave Anderson

I would like to get in touch with anyone who has any information on my BROWN ANCESTORS. Florentine Victoria BROWN was my great grandmother. * Name: Joseph Adam BROWN **My 2nd great grandfather. * Birth: 9 Dec 1827 in , Frederick, Maryland * Death: 4 Nov 1877 in , Conway, Arkansas - buried in the WOLF CEMETERY, OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. . Marriage 1 Caroline GORDON b: 27 Apr 1831 in , Frederick, Maryland *** * Married: 1853 in , Frederick, Maryland * Died: in Arkansas, buried in the WOLF CEMETERY , OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. Children : 1. James H. BROWN b: 13 November 1853 in Maryland, d: 1888 in Arkansas 2. ALAMANDA E. BROWN b: 1855 in Maryland, d: 1912 in Arkansas. 3. Minerva BROWN b: ca 1858 in Maryland, d: 1886 in Arkansas. 4. Joseph B. BROWN b: ca 1861 in Indiana, d: 1906 5. Adeline BROWN b: 1864 in Indiana 6. George W. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana. 7. William H. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana 8. Florentine Victoria BROWN b: 10 April 1868 in Peru, Indiana and died in Oklahoma. 9. Charles E. BROWN b: 1870 in Arkansas. 10. Albert BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas. 11. Emma J. BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas.

Thanks for the reply Ray; I think the Rock family must be further back then a ggg grandfather; I thought getting the DNA would help to get to a line; place; an idea where to continue searches; well good luck Ray. ELB -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ray Brown Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:47 AM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: [BROWN] DNA > Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > has any other Brown family done this. Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I have a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 generations at the most, of your GF with a Rock. I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the "pond", and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). Ray ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 7:58 AM

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: [BROWN] DNA > Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > has any other Brown family done this. Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I have a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 generations at the most, of your GF with a Rock. I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the "pond", and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). Ray

Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, has any other Brown family done this. The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between 1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b 1835 Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 children Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E Brown & Cora Etta Brown. Does anyone connect to this Brown family. ELB

Where in Ohio is this Brown line?Theresa ----- Original Message ----- From: <brown-request@rootsweb.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 201 > > > Brown > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DNA (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 2. Re: DNA (Ray Brown) > 3. Re: DNA (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 4. Brown (dafaalley@sbcglobal.net) > 5. BROWN - ROCK (Dave Anderson) > 6. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Eleanor Prieskorn) > 7. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Beverly Peavler) > 8. Re: BROWN - ROCK (Eleanor Prieskorn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:36:31 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EE239572401A494CA3EF988436F3F9A3@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My grandfather) > > > > We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, > > has any other Brown family done this. > > > > The father and mother of my grandfather was William Henry Brown b between > 1820-1829 In Ohio; died in Indiana 1889; his mother was Ellen Johnson b > 1835 > Ohio and dies in Indiana 1901. > > > > William H Brown was married to Sarah A Catherine Lee b 1828; they had 4 > children > > Samuel P Brown; Emeline Brown ; Mary J Brown; and Nathan Brown > > > > With his second wife Hannah McCreery b 1832 they had 2 children Sarah E > Brown & Cora Etta Brown. > > > > Does anyone connect to this Brown family. > > > > ELB > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:47:11 -0600 > From: "Ray Brown" <kb0stn@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <007b01c94016$2c5fbde0$4201a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > >> Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My >> grandfather) >> >> We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, >> has any other Brown family done this. > > Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I > have > a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. > > So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 > generations > at the most, of your GF with a Rock. > > I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the > "pond", > and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. > I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). > > > Ray > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:26:49 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > To: "'Ray Brown'" <kb0stn@sbcglobal.net>, <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <6D4BA6CFAC5042C3AF66247566BE7921@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the reply Ray; I think the Rock family must be > further back then a ggg grandfather; I thought getting the > DNA would help to get to a line; place; an idea where > to continue searches; well good luck Ray. > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Ray Brown > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:47 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] DNA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:36 AM > Subject: [BROWN] DNA > > >> Hello list; RE; William Henry Brown b 3 Nov, 1868 Indiana (My >> grandfather) >> >> We did our DNA and a 100% came back from a 37 marker to a Rock family, >> has any other Brown family done this. > > Not to a family named Rock, no, but I also have done a 37 analysis, and I > have > a 25 marker match with a MacKay line, so it's kind of similar. > > So it would seem that you are pretty closely related, within 5 or 6 > generations > at the most, of your GF with a Rock. > > I'd speculate that your GGF came over to the States from across the > "pond", > and for whatever reason changed his last name when he got to Ellis Island. > I suspect that my GGGF did the same thing. (sigh). > > > Ray > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:27:16 -0600 > From: <dafaalley@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [BROWN] Brown > To: <Brown-L@Rootsweb.net> > Message-ID: <000501c9402c$8a229270$4efe274b@DJBHFFC1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would like to get in touch with anyone who has any information on my > BROWN ANCESTORS. > Florentine Victoria BROWN was my great grandmother. > > > * Name: Joseph Adam BROWN **My 2nd great grandfather. > * Birth: 9 Dec 1827 in , Frederick, Maryland > * Death: 4 Nov 1877 in , Conway, Arkansas - buried in the WOLF CEMETERY, > OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. > > . Marriage 1 Caroline GORDON b: 27 Apr 1831 in , Frederick, Maryland *** > * Married: 1853 in , Frederick, Maryland > * Died: in Arkansas, buried in the WOLF CEMETERY , OPPELLO, ARKANSAS. > Children : > > 1. James H. BROWN b: 13 November 1853 in Maryland, d: 1888 in Arkansas > 2. ALAMANDA E. BROWN b: 1855 in Maryland, d: 1912 in Arkansas. > 3. Minerva BROWN b: ca 1858 in Maryland, d: 1886 in Arkansas. > 4. Joseph B. BROWN b: ca 1861 in Indiana, d: 1906 > 5. Adeline BROWN b: 1864 in Indiana > 6. George W. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana. > 7. William H. BROWN b: 1866 in Indiana > 8. Florentine Victoria BROWN b: 10 April 1868 in Peru, Indiana and died > in Oklahoma. > 9. Charles E. BROWN b: 1870 in Arkansas. > 10. Albert BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas. > 11. Emma J. BROWN b: 1874 in Arkansas. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:43:13 -0600 > From: "Dave Anderson" <davema3@verizon.net> > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4173915294804D1CB57B80964DBFDE54@DAVE> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:39:50 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <85B8B2FC42F74C0590E231C10DDF0A65@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Thanks for the reply Dave; > > He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have paper proof > back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; his sir > name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no > adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no DNA > found > with them at all. > > ELB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Anderson > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Eleanor, > Re your DNA match to a ROCK > > Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who > submitted > > the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will both need > to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA sample > providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any opportunities > for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice-versa. > Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male "ROCK". Or > the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. > > Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. > > Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, ROKE, > ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. > > Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any other > matches, or near matches? > > Dave Anderson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:32:01 -0700 > From: Beverly Peavler <bp@peavler.org> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <DC65A9AF-356B-414B-BB11-D5D3E67F74CA@peavler.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply Dave; >> >> He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have >> paper proof >> back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; >> his sir >> name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no >> adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no >> DNA found >> with them at all. >> >> ELB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Dave Anderson >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK >> >> Eleanor, >> Re your DNA match to a ROCK >> >> Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who >> submitted >> >> the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will >> both need >> to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA >> sample >> providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any >> opportunities >> for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- >> versa. >> Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male >> "ROCK". Or >> the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. >> >> Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. >> >> Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, >> ROKE, >> ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. >> >> Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any >> other >> matches, or near matches? >> >> Dave Anderson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: >> 11/6/2008 >> 7:58 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Beverly Peavler > bp@peavler.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:00:20 -0600 > From: "Eleanor Prieskorn" <dalell@embarqmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > To: <brown@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F710A7BC102248DC9386218556F002B3@prieskor2711d7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > What seemed to have happened Beverly was we had the Brown DNA > done and so did the Rock family; but his DNA matched the my Brown > family but he had none of my line nor did I have any of his. > > I am on the Brown list and match none at this point; I do know > that William Henry Brown b OH; was the father of my grandfather > William Henry Brown b IN; and my grandfathers mother was Ellen > Johnson b OH; his parents never married; my grandfather was put > on the Orphan Train by her or him or someone; where and when there > are no records except his name and thought to be birth. > I found him in the 1880 census living with the Bryant family > It stated took to raise age 9 b IN. > > Sometime after the 1880 census and before he filled out his marriage > records in 25 Aug 1895 he had taken the name Bryant (no adoption)he had > put > his mother and fathers name on that record. > > My father and his brothers were the first generation of > Bryant's do to grandfathers actions. > > Thanks for your reply. > ELB > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Beverly Peavler > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:32 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK > > Proof of surname is not necessarily proof of parentage! > > On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Eleanor Prieskorn wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply Dave; >> >> He (Rock) has paper proof back 4 generations 1790's PA; I have >> paper proof >> back to 1798 Ohio to Indiana 3 generations; my sir name of Brown; >> his sir >> name as Rock; so it must go back further to be connected; he has no >> adoptions that he has found; I have foster parents name Bryant; no >> DNA found >> with them at all. >> >> ELB >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Dave Anderson >> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:43 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN - ROCK >> >> Eleanor, >> Re your DNA match to a ROCK >> >> Your best bet at this point is to make contact with the person who >> submitted >> >> the ROCK DNA sample. He may have some ideas. But likely you will >> both need >> to share whatever you have re the male ancestries of the two DNA >> sample >> providers. Dates, locations, spouses, etc, etc. Look for any >> opportunities >> for the ROCK Y-DNA to get transmitted to your BROWN line. Or vice- >> versa. >> Entirely possible that your paternal line is really from a male >> "ROCK". Or >> the ROCK testee is actually a biological BROWN. >> >> Sharing your respective paper trails might provide a clue. >> >> Look for neighbors, in-laws, boarders, etc named ROCK, ROCC, ROCCE, >> ROKE, >> ROOK, ROOKE etc, etc. >> >> Has the ROCK DNA provider had any other matches? Have you had any >> other >> matches, or near matches? >> >> Dave Anderson >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: >> 11/6/2008 >> 7:58 AM >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > Beverly Peavler > bp@peavler.org > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 11/6/2008 > 7:58 AM > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BROWN list administrator, send an email to > BROWN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BROWN mailing list, send an email to > BROWN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BROWN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 201 > ************************************* >