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    1. [BROWN] 1885 Obit for James Brown, OH
    2. The Burt's
    3. Found this on an internet newspaper site and thought it might be of interest to descendants: Brown, James -- James Brown of Sharon Township, Richland County, Ohio, died on Wednesday, August 19th, A.D. 1885, aged 91 years, 6 months, and one day. Mr. Brown was born in Wellsburg, Brooke County, West Virginia, February 18th, 1794. He was married to Miss Jane McGuire on June 2nd, A.D. 1814, with whom he lived fifty-five years, and to whom were born ten children, eight of whom they raised to full age, and five of whom only survive him, viz., Danforth, Oliver, Sally, Harriet, and Martha. He also had nineteen grandchildren, and seven great grandchildren. Mr. Brown died on a farm on which the deceased had moved fifty years ago last May. His remains were interred in Oakland Cemetery in Shelby, on Friday last, at about noon, Rev. W.W. Anderson pastor of the Presbyterian Church at Bellville officiated, and at the home preached a short discourse based on the sixth verse of the 90th Psalm, "In the evening it is cut down and withereth." He was severely and painfully ill only the last few days of his life. His wife was a devoted Catholic, but he was brought up in the Presbyterian faith, though never formally uniting with that church. He moved to this locality about the year 1834, perhaps a few years after, having purchased the farm on which he spent the best part of his years about 1820, 65 years ago and resided upon it as his homestead about fifty years last May. His wife died about sixteen years ago, since which time he has resided with his children. He is the last of a family of twelve children who lived to a great old age. His father before him lived to be over ninety-two years old. He was the son of Capt. Oliver Brown, of Revolutionary fame, who was a native of Lexington, Mass., and took part in that, the first battle of the Revolutionary war. His ancestors came from England, and of them but little is known except that one of them was a "sea captain." The Browns were amongst the first who settled in the colony of Massachusetts, and were loyal subjects of the English crown, but as the years rolled on their attachment became stronger for their home, and they began to regard the mother country as a cruel tyrant. Although Capt. Brown was born in Lexington, he spent his earlier years in Cambridge, with a Mr. (Col.) Thatcher (married to one of Oliver's cousins), of whose family he became a member at the age of eight. Captain Brown happened to be in Boston on the day the tea was thrown overboard, and he saw the party dressed in the garb of Mohawk Indians, as they threw the boxes of tea overboard. His father was to relate how that act had worked up the feelings of the royalists and the patriots to the highest pitch of excitement. It was then and there he resolved to devote his life, if need be, to the cause of his country. He became a warrior in feeling and in deed. He was engaged at the Battle of Lexington. He well remembered the day on which Lord Percy marched from Boston to reinforce the party who had gone to undertake the destruction of the military stores at Concord, and was with those who met the British troops at Lexington on their return, and was engaged in that skirmish although he escaped uninjured himself, saw his comrades fall by his side, cut down by the first discharge of British artillery in the Revolutionary War. When the British began to retreat to Boston, he was one of those who hung upon their flanks, and annoyed them with shots from behind stone fences until they came within reach of the guns in the fortifications around Boston. The War had now commenced and peaceful avocations were laid aside, and thousands rushed to Bunker Hill where that great battle was fought June 17, 1775. He was in that battle where Warren fell, and soon after received a Captain's commission in the Artillery, having command of two field pieces. After the evacuations he went with General Washington's army to New York, and was engaged in a battle on the Island. Those who are conversant with history will remember how a party of soldiers saw a statue of King George of England occupying a prominent position in the streets of New York, an object of peculiar hatred to the American soldiers. Capt. Brown conceived the idea of removing the offensive monument and at night he went with a party of about forty of his comrades about half of whom were sailors. The sailors fastened strong ropes to the object of their hatred, and he and his comrades in a dark alley opposite pulled at the ropes until the rope broke, the statue fell to the pavement below, outside the iron fence enclosing it. The news of the occurrence spread throughout the camp. Unexpectedly the act met with the strongest condemnation from General Washington which caused Captain Brown always to regret his part in that transaction. However, in the pursuance of orders, he removed the statue from its iron support to the laboratory to be molded into bullets for the use of the army. Although the act could not be concealed, the perpetrators of it were never known. A short time after this event, General Washington left New York and occupied Harlem Heights, and Captain Brown was in the engagement at that place, in command of thirty men and two field pieces. He had at one time advanced too far in the pursuit of the enemy and found himself in danger of losing his artillery. He seized one of the wagons himself, fifteen of his men having been killed and wounded, and succeeded in getting them away. At that moment General Putnam rode up to him and said "so long as officers will, like you, perform the duties of privates, there will be no reason to despair of the American cause." The General then himself dismounted and aided him in preventing their capture by the British. Captain Brown was next engaged at the Battle of White Plains, in which the Americans were defeated. He was with the American Army during their famous retreats through New Jersey, of which Bancroft speaks, where hundreds of regular troops and militia deserted in despair, but he and his men remained true to the last. The Battle of Trenton and Princeton were next fought in which he participated, which proved that even in defeat, and on the retreat, the race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong. After these battles he was stationed at Round Brook and Mud Fort. In September of the following year he was at the Battle of Brandywine during the whole day. He served nearly through the whole war, and was in ten severe engagements, the last of which was the Battle of Monmouth. He was personally acquainted with General Washington for whom he entertained the highest reverence. He was with him at the Battle of Germantown, going in with sixty men and coming out with only twenty-nine alive and with him also in winter quarters at Valley Forge. He personally received the thanks of Washington for prompt and efficient obedience to orders. In 1790 or 1791 he moved with his family to what is now Wellsburg, West Virginia, where the subject of this notice was born as stated in 1794. At that time Wellsburg was in the midst of a wild and unbroken wilderness, the haunt of wild beasts and savages, and for three years Capt. Brown performed the duties of a militiaman to protect the settlement from the incursion of murderous savages. Solomon Brown of New Haven, Vermont, a brother of the deceased, was also a Revolutionary soldier. In a slip placed in the hands of the writer taken from the Middlebury (Vermont) Free Press, it is stated that he was a man of strong natural powers, of great probity, uncommon firmness of mind and purpose, severe justice and Christian candor and meekness. He held many public trusts, which he discharged with fidelity and promptness. He was one of that class of community who are the support of society, the pillars of the church and the ornament of the state and Republic. Solomon was also a participator in the Battle at Lexington on April 19th, 1775, and had the unrivaled honor of having shed the first British blood in the defense of American liberty! He was also a teenager who is credited with, having spotted the British redcoats coming down the road, ran to the local tavern and alerted Paul Revere and his friends. This Deacon Solomon Brown was a sergeant in the artillery, five years in the Revolution, and a subordinate in his brother's company, we believe. At his death, it was said, he left as a legacy to his family an honest name, a guiltless example and a well-spent life. This was the ancestry from which sprung the subject of this sketch, the late James Brown, one of the pioneers of Shelby. Years ago, he placed in the hands of the writer, newspapers from which we have taken the foregoing, with the injunction, that in case of his death, he desired to state that he had during all his life time desired so much as in his power lay to emulate the principles, the patriotism and virtues of his Revolutionary ancestry, and we now are discharging that duty, and fulfilling that promise. James Brown was our special friend, for over thirty years, respected for his manly virtues, steadfast friendship, honest purposes, mildness and generosity of character, candid in all his dealings, and in every grace that goes to cast a halo of glory like that of a setting sun, upon all the past life of an aged man. It was our good fortune to visit him at his home, when he could lengthen out our notice of his death by many instances of his wroth as a man and citizen. He was one of the pioneer merchants and businessmen of Shelby, and closed his life in a model rural home as a farmer, and now at the extraordinary age of nearly ninety-two years, like a ripe shock of corn, and the very appropriate emblem placed upon his coffin by the hands of reverential affection, a miniature sheaf of wheat, full of golden grain, he has been garnered for eternity, to be with those whose example he delighted to follow, and emulated day by day so far as in his power lay. We should not be following his directions were we to say any more than this. It was against his wish that this should be done, but having passed through a long life, in the footsteps of his ancestry, it was one of his ambitions in life to emulate their example and to record this much as an example for his descendants to follow, is why he desired this to be recorded at his death. Peace to his ashes, and may the memory of his private virtues ever be green in the memories of those who follow him. "B." Submitted by Judith. [source unknown] Brown, Jane (McGuire) -- Mrs. Jane (McGuire) Brown was born in Brooke County, Virginia, April 27, 1793. She was married to James Brown, Esq., in 1814, and lived happily with her husband over fifty-five years. She was brought up in the Catholic faith, and baptized by the first minister of that denomination in that section of country: and lived and died in accordance with her early instructions. She was the mother of ten children, seven of whom are yet living, and to whom she was more than ordinarily attached. She endured the privations of a pioneer life, having removed to Ohio, thrity-four years ago. She lived to see her great-grandchildren and died beloved and respected by her numerous circle of friends. She died September 16th, 1869, aged 76 years, 4 months, and 19 days. Her last illness was of five weeks' duration, and her extreme suffering was borne with Christian patience---not a murmur escaping her lips. Submitted by Judith. [source unknown] Submitter's Note: I have her Death Certificate, Court of Common Pleas, Probate Division, Richland County.....death: 16 Sept 1869; Date of record: 1869; Married; Place of Death: Plymouth Twp.; Place of Birth: West Virginia (was Va. at the time .. panhandle area which was Ohio/Va/WVA over the years); Last Place of Residence: Plymouth Township; We located her tombstone, along with husband James Brown, and children, in Oakland Cemetery in Shelby.

    04/20/2009 10:34:47
    1. [BROWN] Solomon Brown of Lexington, MA and New Haven, VT
    2. The Burt's
    3. Is anyone else out there descended from Solomon Brown born Lexington, MA 15 Jan 1756/7 and died in New Haven, VT 6 Jun 1837? He was married first to Marina Barnett (1759-1802), second to Eunice Bigelow. Excerpted below is from a cousin's summary of Solomon's history. Solomon grew up in Lexington, Middlesex Co., MA. He was 18 when the Revolutionary War started in Lexington. On 18 Apr 1775 Solomon was returning from the market in Boston when he passed a patrol of British soldiers heading for Lexington. He knew John Adams and John Hancock were there and he thought the British were going to arrest them. He reported the soldiers to Sgt. William Monroe at Monroe’s Tavern. The alarm went up. Solomon Brown, Jonathan Loring and Elijah Sanderson went out to follow the soldiers and to warn people that the British were on the way. While doing this the 3 were captured by the British at about 10:00 pm. Paul Revere was captured and held with them for doing the same thing. The 4 were released at 2:00 am. On 19 Apr 1775 the first battle of the war started in front of Monroe’s Tavern in Lexington. Solomon was one of the soldiers. He was said to have fired the first shot of the Revolutionary War, wounding a British soldier. This has been repeated in many references although some dispute this or say it is impossible to know. Solomon believed it to be true. Elijah Sanderson was a witness. Solomon pointed out the blood on the ground where the soldier had been wounded. Later in life Solomon was telling the same story in New Haven shortly before he died. The gun was passed down within the family. Other colonists known to have fired that day were: Ebenezer Lock, Ebenezer Munroe Jr., John Munroe, Nathan Munroe, Jonas Parker, William Tidd and possibly Benjamin Sampson. Solomon spent the next five years as a soldier, being discharged on 1 Apr 1780 by General Knox. He was in the MA artillery under Col. John Crane, Capt. Benjamin Eustis. He was in the Northern Army under General Schuyler and was involved in the marches against British Capt. John Burgoyne and in the battle of Ticonderoga. He spent the winter camped at Valley Forge. He was a sergeant at Ft. Schuyler (Utica, NY) where he was in charge of supplies. This job prepared him for being a grocer after the war. After his discharge he lived at Nine Partners (Pauling, Dutchess Co.) NY. He married Marina and started a grocery business. Shortly after he moved to Vermont (prior to 1785) where all of his children were born. By 1790 he had 6 children here. He built a log house and started a grocery business (selling among other things flour, tobacco, salt, codfish and rum) in New Haven, Addison Co., VT, about 1.5 miles south of the meetinghouse at the foot of Beech Hill (on present day South St.). In 1800 he built a brick house here. Solomon was a deacon of the church. He ran into trouble with the church in Nov 1803 when he planned to marry a woman (2nd wife Eunice Bigelow, Marina had died in 1802) who had lived with one or two other men. He had 6 children with Eunice for a total of 17. Solomon sold land in New Haven starting in 1794: 100 acres, 4th division, to William Lampson for ₤50 on 10 Nov 1794; 1 acre, 5th division, to Luther Covarts for 9 schillings on 5 Dec 1795; 40 acres, 5th division, to William Lark for ₤60 on 1 Mar 1798 (he had bought this property from Elijah Foot on 14 May 1797 for ₤40); 40 acres, lot #30 (3rd division), to James Abernathy for $310 on 7 May 1807; 3 lots of #60 (3rd division) to Nobel and Ira Stewart for $150 on 20 Nov 1807; 4 acres, 7th division, to Frederick Bird for $8 on 30 Oct 1823 and 7 acres, 8th division, to Ziba Gifford for $50 on 11 May 1827. Most of this land was near his home lot on South Street. On 4 Jul 1832 Solomon applied for a Revolutionary War pension in New Haven. Solomon died on 6 Jun 1837 in New Haven. His will went to probate court on 30 Jun 1837 (it was dated 11 Apr 1837). The executors were wife Eunice (1775 to 25 Jan 1839) and sons George W. and Ira. Solomon’s 5 sons that lived out of town received money: Samuel ($120), Morris ($150), William ($150), James ($150), Solomon ($115). Wife Eunice got one third of the estate and the 5 children living in New Haven (Ira, Geo. W., Betsy, Nelson, and Laura Palmer) divided the remainder. They sold off parts of the farm during the next 10 years. The value of the estate was appraised on 5 Sep 1837 for $6192.30. Solomon had 250 acres of land with buildings. Animals included oxen, cows, horses, sheep, pigs and bees. Tools included grindstones, an ax, augers, saws, forks, rakes, a ladder, a crowbar, a pitchfork, chains, plows, saddles, sap buckets, guns and wagons. Kitchenware included a stove, brass kettles, utensils, wrought iron ware, pewter, wood ware, tubs, barrels, stone ware, silver plated utensils and baskets. Furniture included tables (pine and cherry), cupboards, 9 bed stands, bed linen, a loom, chairs and trunks. He also had a buffalo robe, a coat, candles, books and glasses. Some of the items produced on the farm were wool, leather, wheat, oats, hay, corn, potatoes, peas, rye, pork and maple sugar. Solomon's children were: first wife: Morris James - in Malone, NY in 1820 William (Jul 1785-27 Jul 1874) in Malone in 1820 Samuel b. (29 Mar 1786) Vermont m. (29 Mar 1812) Hannah Heath, Malone Polly b. (1789) d. New Haven (24 May 1818) Chauncey b. (1790) VT m. Clarissa Hazen d. Wisconsin (1863) Solomon b. (1791) m. Clarissa Blanchard - moved from Malone NY to Fulton Co. IL in 1835 d. (1839) second wife: Betsy b. (17 Jul 1805) d. (1891) Ira b. (22 Aug 1807) New Haven m. Eitha Bogue m. Hannah Turner d. New Haven (20 Feb 1894) Edwin b. (1812) d. (17 Oct 1836) George W. b. (1812) m. Sarah d. (1893) Laura b. (Nov 1814) m. Chester Palmer d. (2 Aug 1879) Nelson b. (25 Nov 1818) m. (8 May 1839) Nancy Farr d. (1884) There were 4 other children for a total of 17. Would be interested to know if there are others out there who descend from Solomon Brown. TIA Barbara

    04/20/2009 08:05:22
    1. [BROWN] SUGGESTION--- FOR BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND, IRELAND AND ENGLAND or you beli
    2. Thank you Ken for bringing this topic up. I have a suggestion for everyone. For everyone who has an idea that their ancestors came from the above countries why not post your last known ancestor with their brothers and sisters if you know them. If possible a picture of that ancestor. I am out of country and this email will not allow attachments while out of country but I do have another email if anyone thinks they may be related. Although it may be your direct line it would help others to connect the dots. I also belong to the Brown DNA and have from almost the start. My brother provided the DNA..have some close ones but no perfect match. In our case it could be because my family and thousands of others who were stationed in CFB Gagetown (Oromocto, N.B.) were sprayed with Agent Orange and many other defoliating chemicals from1956 to 1984. So my brothers DNA could be altered. I have talked to a scientist specializing in Agent Orange in Australia (because of Vietnam) and the head of the DNA project so this possibility. My last know male Brown was John Ebenezer Brown born November 17 1822 (some census say 1823) in NY and died May 13 1902 Ingham County USA. He also lived in Toledeo and Richfield Ohio before moving to Michigan. First wife Abigail born abt 1827 NY. Chidren Aaron Carles, John Cyrrus and George H Brown. My greatgrandfather Aaron Charles Brown told my grandfather that we were from Dublin Ireland but I have not found any proof. I believe we may be Scottish possibly via Ireland. Ebenezer is more Scottish than Irish at least that is what I have found and I do know it is a English name as well. Carol Brown Parker

    04/20/2009 04:01:47
    1. [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Ken & Alice Brown
    3. Hi All Thanks for the interesting postings in reply to my recent note. I see though that most respondents were mainly of German (Alsace) or English descent and NOT Scottish. Where have all the American Scots by the name of Brown gone? Diane and Beverly said that a lot of American records were destroyed during the Civil War. That I can understand as I also have Irish ancestors who seem to have had the habit of destroying records as well, due no doubt to a few contretemps with the English over the century's. As a result, on my Irish side, I can only trace back to the early 1800's. BLAST them! (the English that is) Except for MY English ancestors of course. We are all a mixed up people aren't we and I haven't even mentioned the Welsh, Portuguese and east Indian (Rajput) ancestors I have! I particularly enjoyed Randall Colston's posting. What a great story mate. Actually as far as I can figure the Brown's of Coulston in Scotland (not certain of the spelling) are about the only Scots Brown's that I know of who can go back on the paper trail further than MY Scots Browns. (chest puffed out) BUT Randall - translation needed: What on Earth is a 'crab idol'? Whatever it was, your ancestor, in his inebriated state seems to have stomped it! Not even Google can elucidate the mysteries of 'crab idol' is. Don't leave me/us hanging mate. Tell us non Americans quick. What's it all about mate? Cheers Ken Brown OZ

    04/20/2009 02:47:30
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND
    2. R. Mark Brown
    3. What do you know from the 1844-48 period Beth ? Any idea where he married - Gibson could perhaps be his mother's maiden name - just a guess. Mark On Apr 20, 2009, at 2:28 AM, Beth Golden wrote: > Hello! Thanks so much for your original post in this thread as it has > generated great responses. I too would like to know what a crab idol > is! I > wish I could claim that my Brown line is from Scotland, but I'm > stuck with > finding the origins of my 2nd great grandfather, Richard Gibson > Brown. He > was born we think around 1800 in either NY, OH or VT. We've only > been able > to find documentation for him during the years 1844-1848 when he was > married > to Rebecca Moore and father of Loammi Byron, Benjamin Franklin, > Susan and > Richard Gibson, Jr. in Rock Island and Mercer Counties, Illinois. > Since his > children didn't know him well, they listed his birthplace on > censuses as > various places. > > again thanks, Ken and Alice! > Beth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown knodish1@mac.com

    04/20/2009 12:46:54
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Beth Golden
    3. Hello! Thanks so much for your original post in this thread as it has generated great responses. I too would like to know what a crab idol is! I wish I could claim that my Brown line is from Scotland, but I'm stuck with finding the origins of my 2nd great grandfather, Richard Gibson Brown. He was born we think around 1800 in either NY, OH or VT. We've only been able to find documentation for him during the years 1844-1848 when he was married to Rebecca Moore and father of Loammi Byron, Benjamin Franklin, Susan and Richard Gibson, Jr. in Rock Island and Mercer Counties, Illinois. Since his children didn't know him well, they listed his birthplace on censuses as various places. again thanks, Ken and Alice! Beth

    04/19/2009 08:28:19
    1. Re: [BROWN] ***SPAM*** AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Randall Colston
    3. Ken, I thought about your response and though that I might have missed one of the best clues in finding my Brown line in the UK. I spent 3 hours or so looking for a Crab; Idol, deity, or myth. The only thing that I could find was cancer (the crab - /An Portán/). If anyone can help...could this be a local Celtic deity in Ireland? One of the best Brown stories I have found is the Browns of Colston (or Colstoun). This isn't my line but it is an interesting story. I won't include the story here, but those are interested, can Google "The Colstoun Pear". Randall Ken & Alice Brown wrote: > Hi All > > Thanks for the interesting postings in reply to my recent note. I see though that most respondents were mainly of German (Alsace) or English descent and NOT Scottish. Where have all the American Scots by the name of Brown gone? > > Diane and Beverly said that a lot of American records were destroyed during the Civil War. That I can understand as I also have Irish ancestors who seem to have had the habit of destroying records as well, due no doubt to a few contretemps with the English over the century's. As a result, on my Irish side, I can only trace back to the early 1800's. BLAST them! (the English that is) Except for MY English ancestors of course. We are all a mixed up people aren't we and I haven't even mentioned the Welsh, Portuguese and east Indian (Rajput) ancestors I have! > > I particularly enjoyed Randall Colston's posting. What a great story mate. Actually as far as I can figure the Brown's of Coulston in Scotland (not certain of the spelling) are about the only Scots Brown's that I know of who can go back on the paper trail further than MY Scots Browns. (chest puffed out) BUT Randall - translation needed: What on Earth is a 'crab idol'? Whatever it was, your ancestor, in his inebriated state seems to have stomped it! Not even Google can elucidate the mysteries of 'crab idol' is. Don't leave me/us hanging mate. Tell us non Americans quick. What's it all about mate? > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/19/2009 06:05:01
    1. [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Ken & Alice Brown
    3. Hi American Browns I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! Cheers Ken Brown OZ

    04/19/2009 04:46:56
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Jackie Purlee
    3. I have the following Brown Families in my family tree. I have no proof or sources that they are my ancestors, or that any of the info that I have is even right.. In Family # 2, I do have some sources for relatives beginning in the Mid to Late 1800's for the Jayne side and their offspring/relations. Would like to find anyone researching these families. Family # 1 John Brown                        1589 London, England 1687 New Hampshire Married Sarah Walker 1618 London, Middlesex, England 1672 New Hampshire Daughter Rebecca Brown(e) 1640 Providence, RI 1701 Providence, RI Married   John Scott 1640 Providence, RI 1677 Providence, RI Son   John Scott, Jr 1664 Providence, RI 1725 Newport, RI Family # 2 John Brown 1650 Swansea, Bristol, Mass 1709 Swansea, Bristol, Mass Married   Anne Mason 1650 Saybrook, Middlesex, Connecticut 1709? Swansea, Bristol, Mass Children   Samuel Brown 1677 Swansea, Bristol, Mass 1752 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass Married   Anne Darling 1689 Mendon, Worcester, Mass 1753 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass Daughter   Abigail Brown 1720 Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass 1804? Smyth, VA Married Unknown Spouse Daughter   Abigail Wheeler 1751 Orange, NY 1824 Washington, VA Married   Henry Jayne 1754 Goshen Township, Orange, NY 1822 Washington, VA ________________________________ From: Ken & Alice Brown <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:47:30 PM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWNS FROM SCOTLAND Hi All Thanks for the interesting postings in reply to my recent note. I see though that most respondents were mainly of German (Alsace) or English descent and NOT Scottish. Where have all the American Scots by the name of Brown gone? Diane and Beverly said that a lot of American records were destroyed during the Civil War. That I can understand as I also have Irish ancestors who seem to have had the habit of destroying records as well, due no doubt to a few contretemps with the English over the century's. As a result, on my Irish side, I can only trace back to the early 1800's. BLAST them! (the English that is) Except for MY English ancestors of course. We are all a mixed up people aren't we and I haven't even mentioned the Welsh, Portuguese and  east Indian (Rajput) ancestors I have! I particularly enjoyed Randall Colston's posting. What a great story mate. Actually as far as I can figure the Brown's of Coulston in Scotland (not certain of the spelling) are about the only Scots Brown's that I know of who can go back on the paper trail further than MY Scots Browns. (chest puffed out) BUT Randall  - translation needed: What on Earth is a 'crab idol'? Whatever it was, your ancestor, in his inebriated state seems to have stomped it!  Not even Google can elucidate the mysteries of  'crab idol' is. Don't leave me/us  hanging mate. Tell us non Americans quick. What's it all about mate? Cheers Ken Brown OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/19/2009 01:17:02
    1. Re: [BROWN] Scottish Browns
    2. Leonard Campbell
    3. I can help with this information: John Brown(e) b. 1631, d. 1714, Watertown, MA. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~soup/Campbell%20Family%20Cards/wc01/wc01_100.htm He is probably a Scottish prisoner of Cromwell sent to Mass 1652 on the John and Sarah, (Lynn Iron Works?); of Hawkedon, Eng??; a near relative of Frober Drown, the reformer, and founder of Independent Congregationalis of Watertown, MA (No reference); once thought probable might have been a son of John Browne, of Wat., born the year before he left Eng, but in a deed recorded in Mid., records, he is called " a Scotchman," and the first john of Wat. left only 2 drs. and widow. John Brown's dr. deborah m. Jeremiah Meacham of Salem, and her dr. Elizabeth m. 10 jan 1677 John Gustin. He had a grandson Samuel: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=darby219&id=I43 I also have an elusive Charles Brown of Providence, RI, b. 1836, Providence, RI to James. E. Brown and Betsy. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=darby219&id=I28 On Apr 19, 2009, at 4:21 PM, brown-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn > and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy > seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in > the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on > let's hear > from you!

    04/19/2009 11:24:59
    1. [BROWN] Browns from CT
    2. R. Mark Brown
    3. Well Ken, my Brown family was in CT I believe at least as early as 1740 but probably more likely 1640 ish. Our Zadock Brown Family Bible says that Josiah Brown born in 1741 was the son of Dr. Brown and Sarah Lockwood. It says that he was the youngest of 11. None of the others are named. Josiah married Lois Chapman 7 March 1762. Josiah and Lois raised and baptized most of their children at Christ Church, Salem, Westchester, NY It had then been our search to determine exactly WHO - is Dr. Brown. We have found an Isaac Brown born 1690 to James Brown of Norwalk, CT who married a Sarah Lockwood. We've found information that indicates he was a doctor BUT - we haven't found any information showing Josiah was his child - nor much info on any of the other missing children though we have some information on a couple children of Isaac's. So - IF Isaac were my GGGGG - I'd have an Browns living in Norwalk, CT in1690 and we believe that this James Brown was in Brandford CT. We believe he has 2 wives - one of them being Rebecca Rusco. There is a source that says James1 Brown was born Abt.1669 in Stamford, Lincolnshire,England, and died Bef. 1710in Norwalk,Fairfield Co., CT. He married RebeccaRuscoe Abt. 1681. She was born Abt.1665, and died 03 Jun 1730 in Fairfield Co., CT. I have to repeat though - we still can't prove that Josiah is the son of Dr. Isaac and Sarah Lockwood but we know that Josiah is the son of a Dr. Brown and Sarah Lockwood. There is a reference in Settlers of the Beekman Patent to our Josiah which has been proven wrong. He says that he is the son of Hackaliah of Rye. We can show that the Josiah who was the son of Hackaliah of Rye is not our Josiah. There are Browns in Westchester Ct, NY noted in the History of Westchester that said they came from Lincolnshire, ENG. There is a note in our Brown Bible that says Dr. Brown was a Doctor in the Court for the Queen England. It's written in a different hand writing - different kind of pen and appears to me to be more recent than other writings in the bible. I have my DNA kit and I'm about to send it in. I've been watching my check book waiting until I thought I could afford to splurge on something extra. We sure wish we could confirm the identity of Dr. Brown who married Sarah Lockwood. There is another family document that suggests that maybe Josiah Brown's father was a Zadock - but I'm not sure that is accurate rather an error in timing. Mark Brown My Josiah Brown had the following children: Family of Josiah Brown & Lois Chapman, 1. Nathan Brown born July 7, 1762 - Nathan Brown, was a native of Westchester county, New York and was married in Onondaga county, that state. His son Horace N Brown was born in Erie county, Pennsylvania, April 6, 1822 and was quite young when he came to Iowa. On coming west in 1838, he first located in Geneva, Kane County, Illinois, and two years later came to Linn county, Iowa, taking up his residence in Brown township, which was named in his honor. 2. Josiah Brown before Jan. 1764 - Abigail Porter and 2nd wife unknown Hinckley, Medina Co. Ohio 3. Edith Brown (wife of Ebenezer Merrit) born Oct 11, 1765 4. Stacy Brown born Sept 21, 1767 - married Margaret Cain - ran a miller Coxsackie, NY 5. Leman Brown born July 21, 1770 6. Melvin Brown June 17, 1772 - Cayuga Co. Married Polly Salisbury 7. Zadock Brown Born July 20, 1774 married Sarah Monroe - Renesselaerville, Albany Co, NY & Jewett, Greene Co, NY 8. Lois Brown (wife of William Hinman) born May 18, 1776 9. Horace Brown born Feb 15, 1779 "Why in childhood and youth do we wish time to pass so quickly - we want to grow up so fast - yet as adults we wish just the opposite?" My Dog Skip R. Mark Brown knodish1@mac.com

    04/19/2009 07:29:29
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Barbara Brown Allen
    3. Hello Ken: My BROWNs came from England, Yorkshire, I'm told by elder relatives; but, no paper trail. These BROWNs came to the states of Vermont & Maine sometime before the Revolutionary War, the American War of Independence. They would not fight for General Washington, instead went to New Brunswick/Nova Scotia. As I child born in Canada, I was told that we children should be proud to be Halifax Nova Scotia BROWNS because we were loyal to King George. When my Nova Scotia-born ggreat-grandfather Henry Brown married, he married Lucy SALES, who was born 1828 in New York State. They named their first son, born in Ontario, Canada, GEORGE WASHINGTON BROWN! My brother volunteered his DNA for the BROWN DNA study, and his haplogroup is R1a. Many of my BROWNs returned to the states, particularly Michigan. Barbara Dearborn, Michigan -----Original Message----- >From: Ken & Alice Brown <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> >Sent: Apr 19, 2009 5:46 AM >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > >Hi American Browns > >I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > >It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? > >Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > >In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > >I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! > >Cheers > >Ken Brown >OZ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________ "Second star to the right . . . straight on 'til morning." -- J.M. Barrie

    04/19/2009 07:11:46
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Eleanor Prieskorn
    3. For many years we were told that we were Brown's not Bryant's; I had no proof until my cousin paid a man to search some records in Indiana; I had sent for those records many years ago but I was not sent the full contract? Between William and Edith Margaret Clawson Bryant; I now have copy in hand with proof just who grandfathers parents were. Our Bryant's do not connect to a blood line. Our blood line is Brown, so in that research I am locating the two families that we come from. With the money paid to a researcher (by Gene Bryant my cousin) that found the marriage license of William and Edith; with the parents' information; Mother; Ellen Johnson - b 1835 Stark, Ohio, USA d 1901 Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN Father; William H. Brown b.18 Oct 1822 Clinton, Ohio. d 20 Apr 1889 Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN For reasons only known to them why they gave my Grandfather to persons unknown at this time; but we do know who had him in the 1880 census. My grandfather William Henry (Brown) Bryant; b 03 Nov 1868 in Decatur county; Washington Township; Indiana. Further information of 1880 census reported he was 9 years old and Thomas Franklin (Frank) Bryant had taken him to raise. We had our DNA don and have no Brown connections as yet; but we do have Two matches 99% to the "Rock" Clan; Australia if I remember correctly. I have tracked the Brown's from Indiana to Ohio and back to PA. I have no land records just census. I have tracked the Johnson also; I have wondered if they belonged to some group that had 1 wife and other woman also; there was no marriage between William and Ellen Johnson; Ellen in all census was living with family; parents then with a brother her death was 1901 I did find William Henry Brown on the "Orphan Train" put on in Indiana and taken off in Indiana in 1871; no records found; no adoption found; no court records found. Any help or ideas welcome. Ellie Warsaw MO. USA -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken & Alice Brown Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:47 AM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND Hi American Browns I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! Cheers Ken Brown OZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.0/2066 - Release Date: 04/18/09 09:55:00

    04/19/2009 06:17:19
    1. [BROWN] Archibald- Andrew-Alexander Brown-Scotland-Chatham Co, NC-MS-Ark
    2. William Brown
    3. Archibald Brown, born 1720-1740?. Died in 1795, .probably left Isle of Jura or mainland  Argyll, western Scotland. Married Agnes Drake ? They and son, Andrew  Brown, Sr., daughter Ann (who married William Hughes) arrived in central North Carolina 1765-1780, farmed on Lick  Creek in Chatham County, NC.( now in Lee Co, NC) Andrew Brown, Sr (about 1760-1819) married Mary McLaughlin/McLachlan,     Children of Andrew Brown, Sr & Mary McLaughlin: Nancy (married Abner Harrington) Mary (married Joseph Parham) Elizabeth (married William Wicker) James (married Susannah Higton) Archibald (married Patsy Brewer, 2nd married Rebecca Kelly) William (no marriage listed) Alexander (no marriage listed) Andrew Jr (married Nancy Hinton Minter) Sarah (married Major John Thomas) Matthew Drake ( no marriage listed) Eleanor (married Wesley Thomas)   Children of Andrew Brown Jr & Nancy Hinton Minter (supposedly my great great grandparents)   Eliza Jane (married Richard S. Marks—2nd married Charles G. Harrington) William Lewis John (married Susan McCormick) Mary Antoinette (married Robert Edward Rives, 2nd married Presley John Snipes, 3rd married Larkin Morelin, 4th married _____Harrington) Burwell W, (married Laura H. Cross) Louisa (married Duncan McCormick) Alexander Hinton (married Mary Elizabeth Cross) Alexander served in CSA—Co H, 30th NC Infantry Regiment—wounded at Battle of Kelly’s Ford, Va—POW and was in the “Immortal 600” – Confederate prisoners used by the Yankees as human shields during CSA attacks and bombardment.     Other children of Andrew Brown Jr & Nancy Hinton Minter:   Permelia (married John Campbell)  Anna (married Thomas W. Harrington)   Parents of Nancy Hinton Minter – William Lewis Hinton & Temperance Williams.   In her 1st marriage to Joseph Minter,  Nancy had at least two children…names unknown.   Andrew Brown Jr (1803-1883 had a twin brother named Alexander who seems to just disappear after birth…but there is no record in Chatham Co, NC of his death. I think my GG great grandfather, named Alexander Brown (born about 1825 in NC, died in Lincoln or Drew Co, Ark about 1874) may have been the son of Andrew Brown Jr or his twin, Alexander, but have no proof.    These Browns were related, in Chatham, Moore, Harnett and possibly other NC counties to McCormick, Cross,  McLeod, Wicker, Hinton, Thomas, Marks, Harrington, Lawrence, McLeod, and others.   Bill Brown – Richardson, Texas

    04/19/2009 06:14:15
    1. [BROWN] William Brown b. abt 1717 England
    2. Dave Sloan
    3. Looking for any information on the following BROWNS (in particular William b. ca 1717 England (WHERE in England? What ship did he come over on? When?)): 1 William Brown b. abt 1717 England d. aft 10 Aug 1794 Guilford Co., NC (5th great grand father) m. ? m. abt May 1740 2 James Brown Sr. b. 1 Jan 1741 NC d. 3 Feb 1818 Richmond, Wayne Co., IN. (4th great grand father) m. Martha Vernon m. abt 1764 b. 1745 Wrightsborough, GA. d. 1817 [daughter of Isaac Vernon and Hannah Townsend] C/B b. 1749 in 1818 in Ashtabula County, transferred pension from New York, served in Revolutionary War, Massachusetts Continental Line, d. 9 Jul 1831 "were in the Lexington Alarm and at Bunker Hill" 1829 moved from Deep River MM NC to Milford MM IN. Martha: Wrightsborough is a Georgia Quaker Colony 3 James J. Brown Jr. b. 14 Feb 1776 Wrightsborough, GA d. 9 Jul 1831 Richmond, Wayne Co., IN. (great-great-great-great uncle) m. Martha Huddlestone m. 17 Jun 1801 Deep River MM, Guilford, NC b. 2 Jul 1780 Dartmouth Twp., Bristol, MA d. 13 May 1860 In [daughter of Seth Huddlestone and ?] Nov 2 1801 rocf Westfield MM, NC to Deep River MM NC 7 Mar 1803 dis mou 6 Aug 1804 con misconduct 3 Sep 1829 James & fam gct Milford MM, Wayne Co., IN Martha: 4 Apr 1803 dis mou 6 Aug 1804 con misconduct EA Quaker Genealogy vol 1 page 801 3 Polly Brown b. 26 Jun 1779 NC d. 12 Mar 1849 (great-great-great-great aunt) m. William Beard m. abt 1798 b. 12 Dec 1777 d. 17 Oct 1839 William: Beard's Hat Shop 3 Rebecca Brown b. 22 Mar 1777 NC d. 21 Jul 1858 (great-great-great-great aunt) m. David Beard m. 4 Jul 1796 b. 29 Apr 1774 NC d. 13 Jul 1849 [son of William Beard and Lavinah Gifford] David: Beard's Hat Shop 3 John Brown b. 1774 Wrightsborough, GA d. 1830 (great-great-great-great uncle) 3 Phebe Brown b. abt 1781 d. abt 1830 (great-great-great-great aunt) 3 William Brown (great-great-great-grand father) m. Elizabeth Ley m. 6 Apr 1812 Guilford Cty, NC b. 1792 d. 25 Nov 1847 [daughter of ? Ley] Farm in Wayne Cty NE of Hoover Farm T14 R1W NW21 158.72 acres from Tenn 1820 Dis MOU 6 Apr 1812 Deep River MM NC. 3 Eli Brown b. 12 Aug 1792 NC d. 6 May 1867 Richmond, Wayne Co., IN. (great-great-great-great uncle) m. Martha Hawkins m. 3 Sep 1817 Richmond, Wayne Co., IN. b. 1799 d. 11 Sep 1877 [daughter of Amos Hawkins and Anna ?] Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy says b. 12 Aug 1792 in NC 6 May 1816 GCT Whitewater MM, IN from Deep River MM, NC Emigrated to Wayne County 1815; settled in Richmond and put up the second house after the town was laid out Carried on the hat and cap business for about 20 years. About 1828 he opened a mercantile business, which he continued for several years. About 1863, he moved to a farm 2 and 1/2 miles NW of Richmond where he lived until he died. Was elected as first Treasure for Richmond on 18 Mar 1834 and on the 4th May 1840 was elected as assessor. Was an apprentice at the Beard Hat shop in NC. Title Eli Brown Summary Death Age: 90 See also: HUM B 5/11/1867 p.2 c.6 P. 5/9/1867 p.2 c.5 P. 4/22/1940 p.3 c.1-4 P. 8/4/1953 p.14 c.1 Personal subject Brown, Eli Host item entry Indiana True Republican (ITR) 16 MAY 1867, page 17, column 1 Thanks in advance for any assistance, Dave Sloan

    04/19/2009 05:33:00
    1. Re: [BROWN] ***SPAM*** AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND
    2. Randall Colston
    3. Good Post Ken....We have pretty good records back to around 1800, but it gets a lot more sparse any further back than that. I have not been able to find information on where my Brown ancestors originated. It has really been disappointing, because one of my goals in life is to visit where they are from. As near as I can determine they were from a Celtic country. My ggg? grandfather was a stowaway and may not have even been a Brown before coming to America. Brown is the 5th most common surname in the US. The Brown DNA study is a great help, but we don't see many participants from the UK. I have members of the Brown family line that say our ancestors came from Germany. I don't think that this information is accurate. The family story goes like this. As a young man Grandpa got drunk one evening a stomped a crab idol. To keep him out of trouble, his friends put him in a coffin and slipped him aboard a ship that was sailing to America. I believe that my most distant Brown ancestor (known at this time), John L. Brown, was born in NC in 1808. If anyone has information on this family I would be very interested. Thanks, Randall Colston Ken & Alice Brown wrote: > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    04/19/2009 04:36:21
    1. Re: [BROWN] William Young Brown and Mary Virginia Cook
    2. Thomas Atkinson
    3. I am wondering if anyone here might have information on William Young Brown..  William Y. Brown was b. 7 Jan 1830 in GA (possibly Fulton or Campbell county, maybe Fayette, this is a little unclear).  d. July 6 1884 in Wilbarger Co. Texas.  He was married to Mary Virginia Cook b. 1828/29 GA, d around 1900, also in Texas.     The William Young Brown's had a daughter named Malissa A Brown, b. 1853.     Would love to find out who Mary Virginia's parents were as well as William Young Browns.    Thanks in advance for any input.   Tom Atkinson

    04/19/2009 04:22:45
    1. [BROWN] Henry Allen Brown & Jane Maple
    2. Robert Fuller
    3. Henry Allen Brown is my brick wall Brown. The earliest record I have for him is his marriage to Jane Maple, 16 Dec 1821 in Jefferson Co., OH. He was born in PA about 1793. I don't know when he came to Jefferson Co., OH. There are several Brown families with males that could be him. Does anyone out there have any info on him or other Brown families in Jefferson Co. ca 1820. Henry & Jane's children were: 1. Nancy Brown, b. 30 Mar 1821, m. Joshua Ewing. 2. James Brown, b. Abt 1823, m. Marintha Laura Ruggles. 3. Rose Ann Brown, b. 1824, m. James Ingram. 4. George Washington Brown, b. 19 Apr 1831, m. 1st. Elizabeth Fuller & 2nd Emily Janette Mills. 5. Margaret Jane Brown, b. 1833, m. maybe a Mr. Chris. 6. Isabelle Brown, b. 1834, m. Robert Moore. 7. Ezekiel A. Brown, b; 15 Jul 1837, m. Ruth Fuller. 8. Catherine Lucetta Brown, b. 28 Oct 1840, m. Samuel E. Shryock. 9. Sarah Brown, b. 1844. 10. Alice Louise Brown, b. 11 Jul 1846, m. Harrison McLaughlin. Henry Allen Brown d. 6 Jan 1854 in Guernsey Co., OH. Any help out there? Bob Fuller

    04/19/2009 04:09:43
    1. Re: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND
    2. smokiethecat
    3. Ken, I know how you feel . I have been looking for my Brown's for 20+ years. But one thing we need to remember about America records is that alot were destroyed in the Civil War.Correct me if I am wrong here folks. And Brown is such a common name. Good luck on your research. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken & Alice Brown" <jumbobrown@optusnet.com.au> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:46 AM Subject: [BROWN] AMERICAN BROWN'S FROM SCOTLAND > Hi American Browns > > I joined this Brown forum many years ago now and have read entries with > interest over the years on how Brown's have faired in America. > > It is a bit disappointing though, for me at any rate, who is not an > American Brown, on how few postings there are on where the American Brown > families originated. In other words the U.K. which in most cases I would > imagine would cover where the majority of American Browns came from. Do > you American Brown's use a different forum than this one for those > enquiries? > > Is there a lack of recorded information for the general run of American > Brown's on where their first ancestor who landed on American shores came > from? The country in the U.K., the Shire, the town, village or farm? > > In my own case, I live in Australia, my father was a Scot and on the > paper trail for my Brown's in Ayrshire, Scotland I am back to 1510, > courtesy of great Scottish record keeping. > > As far as DNA is concerned I have very close Y-DNA matches with two > American Brown's but they have no idea of where their ancestors came from > as they only go back to the 1800's on the paper trail. > > I have an extensive database of my Brown's from the parishes of Sorn and > Galston in East Ayrshire Scotland that may be of interest for American > Brown's who hailed from this area of Scotland. But I would enjoy seeing > some postings from American Brown's searching their deeper roots in the > U.K.. Surely there are some Scottish Brown's over there? Come on let's > hear from you! > > Cheers > > Ken Brown > OZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/19/2009 04:04:28
    1. Re: [BROWN] BROWN SC 1780-1790 to 1850
    2. J Brown
    3. Does anyone have connections to Isom Payne Brown - born 1827 in Washington County Indiana, died 1907 in Clark County Illinois. Isom married Sarah Machlan, who died in 1906 in Clark County Illinois. Samuel's father was Samuel Brown, who is thought to have died about 1831, probably in Indiana. Thanks, Jim Brown pattyca103@aol.com wrote: > Hi! Wayne: Thank you for your reply. Catawba Co is not too far from Spartenburg. I have seen a deed of a Gabriel and Jacob BROWN of Craven Co SC in some Tyron Co NC records but as far as I know at this time the names of Gabriel and Jacob are not names used in my family thus far. Jim and William are along with Levi, James Anderson, Archibald, John Calvin and Samuel. > > Pat > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: WAYNE BROWN <wbrown1926@msn.com> > To: Wayne D Brown <brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 9:50 pm > Subject: Re: [BROWN] BROWN SC 1780-1790 to 1850 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, How far is Catawba Co. North Carolina from Spartenburg. Does the names > Jim Brown, Gabriel, William and Jacob ring any kind of bell. Thanks Wayne > > >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:14:59 -0400 >> From: pattyca103@aol.com >> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN SC 1780-1790 to 1850 >> >> Is anyone researching BROWNS in Spartenburg, Lauren, or Richland Cos in SC? I >> > am looking for information on a William BROWN born perhaps between 1790-1780. He > may not have been born in SC but may have been in the Spartenburg Co area from > 1810 to 1846, 1847 or 1848 when he may have died. He also may have spent some > time in GA in 1812, 1820 and 1821. He may have won some land in the GA Land > Lottery in Cherokee Co GA. I am sorry that I can't be more definite. I am trying > to dismantel a very stubborn long standing brick wall. If anyone has run into a > W > illiam BROWN that may have been in these places or if you are working on BROWNs > of that area of SC or GA please share your information with me. > >> Thank you. >> Pat H. ? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com >> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Rediscover Hotmail®: Now available on your iPhone or BlackBerry > http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Mobile2_042009 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/19/2009 03:29:10