Wow, that's self-centered. > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Beverly Peavler > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:16 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > On the other hand, I've been on lists where people say, "Please talk > about [X] offline, because I don't care anything about [X], > who is not in my family line." >

Dot, As far as I can tell, everything that RootsWeb had online for free is still online for free: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ If I'm mistaken, please tell us just what information is being sold at Ancestry.com that was once free at RootsWeb.com. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Dot > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:06 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > The point is that rootsweb was free when people placed their > information on the site. When the going got tough and people > did not help rootsweb with 'donations' to help defray costs, > ancestry jumped in and helped them really well. The information > that people put up for free is now being 'sold' on the ancestry > site...and I do believe that is what the people are talking about... > yep, MHO. > <snip> > Dot >

I am looking for information on my great grandmother's twin brother.  The information I do have is the following:  James W. Brown, born 8 Mar 1879 in Obion County, Tennessee to Hiram Reeves Brown and Cisely Jane Baker.  I've seen Cisely spelled a few different ways and I usually find Hiram listed as H R Brown.  He may have moved to Arkansas or Missouri.   Thanks Merry Christmas See full size image Happy New Year

Most rootsweb frown on making a very long message; I got kicked off Lee's rootweb because I was saying about the same thing Bud is now saying; I don't think there are many left on there right now. (Lee's rootsweb) I would love to exchange information and I have on this rootsweb with no problem with the boss. We Browns have so many William Henry Brown's (my grandfather b 1868 IN.) that it was hard to sort all of them. As soon as it is found out that my grandfather was born out of wedlock And his father was married and also had children with wife number on; and more children with wife number two. But he never married Ellen Johnson born Ohio 1835 my gr grandmother) my gr grandfather was William (H?) Brown born abt 1822 Ohio; I have tracked his line to Samuel Brown b VA abt 1797. All from Lancaster PA. Names in this line: Braum -Brown-Bryant-Johnson-Lee-McCreery Smith- Weber- Kager Any ideas on this family love to hear from you; right here if allowed. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people who close their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're subverting the purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from experience that these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving anything in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which is the reason everything I have is online: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great-grandfather, Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols > ... if you > do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make > contact with someone who might have information you can use, please > don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the > information to the online discussion. > > Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living > relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing > relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold > mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls > and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly > common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. > > I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - > confirmed or > not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective > group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. > > My .02. > > Peace, > > Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO > www.roots.budzilla.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: 12/17/09 02:30:00

Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people who close their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're subverting the purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from experience that these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving anything in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which is the reason everything I have is online: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great-grandfather, Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols > ... if you > do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make > contact with someone who might have information you can use, please > don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the > information to the online discussion. > > Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living > relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing > relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold > mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls > and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly > common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. > > I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - > confirmed or > not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective > group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. > > My .02. > > Peace, > > Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO > www.roots.budzilla.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

On the other hand, I've been on lists where people say, "Please talk about [X] offline, because I don't care anything about [X], who is not in my family line." On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Diana Gale Matthiesen wrote: > Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at > people who close > their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're > subverting the > purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from > experience that > these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without > giving anything > in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, > which is the > reason everything I have is online: > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml > > Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great- > grandfather, > Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml > > Diana > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry >> >> Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols >> ... if you >> do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make >> contact with someone who might have information you can use, please >> don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the >> information to the online discussion. >> >> Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living >> relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing >> relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold >> mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls >> and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly >> common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. >> >> I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - >> confirmed or >> not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective >> group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. >> >> My .02. >> >> Peace, >> >> Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO >> www.roots.budzilla.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

The point is that rootsweb was free when people placed their information on the site. When the going got tough and people did not help rootsweb with 'donations' to help defray costs, ancestry jumped in and helped them really well. The information that people put up for free is now being 'sold' on the ancestry site...and I do believe that is what the people are talking about...yep, MHO. Now to make this a real BROWN post: Franklin BROWN lived in Wilmer AL, but supposedly was born in LA. He married Mary Ann PIERCE and had children: Alice, Sarah, Rosalie, Mary Ann, Isabella, Eliza...and possibly more that did not live to adulthood. When wife #1 died, Franklin married Susan Ann FOSTER and they produced: Alexander, Hager and Michael. All stayed in the surrounding area and most are buried at Allentown Cemetery in Semmes, AL and at Palestine Cemetery in Wilmer, AL. Would love to hear from anyone concerning this family. Dot On 12/17/2009 8:05 AM, Don & Sheila wrote: > Jesse, > I don't want to quibble, but I do take exception to your statement. Ancestry did buy rootsweb to keep it available. You can still search rootsweb free! The family trees that were there are still there and freely available. They can also be accessed from Ancestry.com. I just went to Rootsweb and typed in one of my ancestors names and got 2 pages of possible matches absolutely free! It is true that if you search through ancestry.com website, you will be asked to subscribe, but if you search through rootsweb, it is still free. > > Sheila > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jessie Davis<mailto:jessied@snowcrest.net> > To: brown@rootsweb.com<mailto:brown@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:14 PM > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > > > > IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to > Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of > our family info........they took it and started charging for > it. What gall! I and many others have NEVER and would never upload > to Ancestry. > > > > > > > >

Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols ... if you do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make contact with someone who might have information you can use, please don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the information to the online discussion. Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - confirmed or not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. My .02. Peace, Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO www.roots.budzilla.com

Jesse, I don't want to quibble, but I do take exception to your statement. Ancestry did buy rootsweb to keep it available. You can still search rootsweb free! The family trees that were there are still there and freely available. They can also be accessed from Ancestry.com. I just went to Rootsweb and typed in one of my ancestors names and got 2 pages of possible matches absolutely free! It is true that if you search through ancestry.com website, you will be asked to subscribe, but if you search through rootsweb, it is still free. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: Jessie Davis<mailto:jessied@snowcrest.net> To: brown@rootsweb.com<mailto:brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of our family info........they took it and started charging for it. What gall! I and many others have NEVER and would never upload to Ancestry. At 01:40 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: >If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're going to use it. >If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, don't upload it to >Ancestry. > >Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by users, so blame other >users for the errors, not Ancestry.com. At least in the case of >RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different >interface), >you can add Postems supplying the correct information for any errors you find. > >Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a paid subscription to >access. It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to >look. Whatever >they have, their search engine will find, provided you try enough spelling >variations of the name. > >Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction to the index, so it >behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are >misspelled in >the index, as an aid to future workers. Some indices will even >allow you to add >a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a >census record >that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a >nephew, not >a son). > >If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain about it, correct >them. The more we share our information, the faster we will all advance. > >All IMO, of course, >Diana > > > -----Original Message----- ><snip> > > > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any > > information on line at their site. They love to use every > > bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to > > look on Ancestry that I have missed. > > ><snip> > > > > Nora > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BROWN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eleanor is right. Ancestry.com owns RootsWeb.com. If memory serves me, they bought it in 1999. The files people contributed to RootsWeb are still online and still free. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Ancestry has gradually morphed the old RootsWeb GenConnect Boards into Ancestry's own message boards, but they're still online and still free. Ancestry has merged the data from their WorldTrees into RootsWeb's WorldConnect, but the database is still free. Other than the considerable extent of my contributions to RootsWeb via mailing lists and message boards, I haven't uploaded information to RootsWeb or Ancestry, nor do I ever intend to do so (all of my information is online at my own web site, so I can guarantee it remains freely accessible by anyone). If you give something to someone, they can use it any way they please. That was true back in the 1990s, and it's true now. RootsWeb always was a for-profit business, even before Ancestry.com bought it. RootsWeb never had -- and never applied for -- status as a non-profit organization, though they long led donors into believing they were doing so. When RootsWeb finally incorporated (in 1998 if my memory serves me), they did so as a for-profit corporation, much to the outrage of many RootsWeb donors. People who think RootsWeb was ever a non-profit organization are laboring under a mis-conception. So, if you weren't angry, then, why are you angry, now? The situation has not fundamentally changed. Please tell me what you think was donated to RootsWeb that Ancestry is now charging to access. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Jessie Davis > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:15 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > > > IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to > Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of > our family info........they took it and started charging for > it. What gall! I and many others have NEVER and would never upload > to Ancestry. > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: > >If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're > going to use it. > >If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, > don't upload it to > >Ancestry. > > > >Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by > users, so blame other > >users for the errors, not Ancestry.com. At least in the case of > >RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different > >interface), > >you can add Postems supplying the correct information for > any errors you find. > > > >Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a > paid subscription to > >access. It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to > >look. Whatever > >they have, their search engine will find, provided you try > enough spelling > >variations of the name. > > > >Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction > to the index, so it > >behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are > >misspelled in > >the index, as an aid to future workers. Some indices will even > >allow you to add > >a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a > >census record > >that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a > >nephew, not > >a son). > > > >If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain > about it, correct > >them. The more we share our information, the faster we will > all advance. > > > >All IMO, of course, > >Diana > > > > > -----Original Message----- > ><snip> > > > > > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague > to put any > > > information on line at their site. They love to use every > > > bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to > > > look on Ancestry that I have missed. > > > > ><snip> > > > > > > Nora > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

They own Rootsweb. Ellie Warsaw MO. -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jessie Davis Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 6:15 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of our family info........they took it and started charging for it. What gall! I and many others have NEVER and would never upload to Ancestry. At 01:40 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: >If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're going to use it. >If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, don't upload it to >Ancestry. > >Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by users, so blame other >users for the errors, not Ancestry.com. At least in the case of >RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different >interface), >you can add Postems supplying the correct information for any errors you find. > >Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a paid subscription to >access. It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to >look. Whatever >they have, their search engine will find, provided you try enough spelling >variations of the name. > >Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction to the index, so it >behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are >misspelled in >the index, as an aid to future workers. Some indices will even >allow you to add >a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a >census record >that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a >nephew, not >a son). > >If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain about it, correct >them. The more we share our information, the faster we will all advance. > >All IMO, of course, >Diana > > > -----Original Message----- ><snip> > > > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any > > information on line at their site. They love to use every > > bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to > > look on Ancestry that I have missed. > > ><snip> > > > > Nora > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.110/2568 - Release Date: 12/16/09 02:02:00

I agree with Diana completely. All the tree info that we up-load to either Rootsweb or Ancestry is free to anyone to access. If you don't up-load your info, you are missing out on a great resource. I make contact with new cousins all the time that found my data on one of these sites. I assure you these n ew cousins are great resources for researching my extended family. If you don't want to use the pay portion of ancestry, that is your choice, but the free partrs are of great value to a long time researcher. I update my on line trees at least three times a year. Good luck in your searching, but don't forget to look for the good stuff that is available in other people's trees. Just remember those trees aren't proven genealogies, but some are very good clues. Bob ________________________________ From: Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:56:46 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry Eleanor is right.  Ancestry.com owns RootsWeb.com.  If memory serves me, they bought it in 1999.  The files people contributed to RootsWeb are still online and still free.  http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Ancestry has gradually morphed the old RootsWeb GenConnect Boards into Ancestry's own message boards, but they're still online and still free. Ancestry has merged the data from their WorldTrees into RootsWeb's WorldConnect, but the database is still free. Other than the considerable extent of my contributions to RootsWeb via mailing lists and message boards, I haven't uploaded information to RootsWeb or Ancestry, nor do I ever intend to do so (all of my information is online at my own web site, so I can guarantee it remains freely accessible by anyone).  If you give something to someone, they can use it any way they please.  That was true back in the 1990s, and it's true now. RootsWeb always was a for-profit business, even before Ancestry.com bought it. RootsWeb never had -- and never applied for -- status as a non-profit organization, though they long led donors into believing they were doing so. When RootsWeb finally incorporated (in 1998 if my memory serves me), they did so as a for-profit corporation, much to the outrage of many RootsWeb donors. People who think RootsWeb was ever a non-profit organization are laboring under a mis-conception. So, if you weren't angry, then, why are you angry, now?  The situation has not fundamentally changed.  Please tell me what you think was donated to RootsWeb that Ancestry is now charging to access. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Jessie Davis > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 7:15 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > > > IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to > Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of > our family info........they took it and started charging for > it.  What gall!  I and many others have NEVER and would never upload > to Ancestry. > > > > > > > At 01:40 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: > >If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're > going to use it. > >If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, > don't upload it to > >Ancestry. > > > >Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by > users, so blame other > >users for the errors, not Ancestry.com.  At least in the case of > >RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different > >interface), > >you can add Postems supplying the correct information for > any errors you find. > > > >Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a > paid subscription to > >access.  It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to > >look.  Whatever > >they have, their search engine will find, provided you try > enough spelling > >variations of the name. > > > >Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction > to the index, so it > >behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are > >misspelled in > >the index, as an aid to future workers.  Some indices will even > >allow you to add > >a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a > >census record > >that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a > >nephew, not > >a son). > > > >If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain > about it, correct > >them.  The more we share our information, the faster we will > all advance. > > > >All IMO, of course, > >Diana > > > > > -----Original Message----- > ><snip> > > > > > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague > to put any > > > information on line at their site.  They love to use every > > > bit of it and  some is incorrect!  Maybe you have an idea where to > > > look on Ancestry that I  have missed. > > > > ><snip> > > > > > > Nora > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

IMHO.....Ancestry TOOK all of the info that was downloaded to Rootsweb by people who contributed it to a free site which was all of our family info........they took it and started charging for it. What gall! I and many others have NEVER and would never upload to Ancestry. At 01:40 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote: >If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're going to use it. >If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, don't upload it to >Ancestry. > >Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by users, so blame other >users for the errors, not Ancestry.com. At least in the case of >RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different >interface), >you can add Postems supplying the correct information for any errors you find. > >Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a paid subscription to >access. It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to >look. Whatever >they have, their search engine will find, provided you try enough spelling >variations of the name. > >Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction to the index, so it >behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are >misspelled in >the index, as an aid to future workers. Some indices will even >allow you to add >a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a >census record >that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a >nephew, not >a son). > >If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain about it, correct >them. The more we share our information, the faster we will all advance. > >All IMO, of course, >Diana > > > -----Original Message----- ><snip> > > > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any > > information on line at their site. They love to use every > > bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to > > look on Ancestry that I have missed. > > ><snip> > > > > Nora > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Janie BROWN which was taken at the Whipple Studio in Boston, Massachusetts. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1870's or 1880's with Janie noted as just 6 months old at the time it was taken. I am hoping to locate someone from her family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the family. If you are a member of this BROWN Family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Yes good points.  I think a lot of the misinformation is put up with the idea that someone will come along and correct it or with the idea that it will be corrected once the correct information is found.  I think most if not all databases are a work in progress. Merry Christmas See full size image Happy New Year ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:40:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [BROWN] WILL HELP If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're going to use it. If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, don't upload it to Ancestry. Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by users, so blame other users for the errors, not Ancestry.com.  At least in the case of RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different interface), you can add Postems supplying the correct information for any errors you find. Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a paid subscription to access.  It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to look.  Whatever they have, their search engine will find, provided you try enough spelling variations of the name. Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction to the index, so it behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are misspelled in the index, as an aid to future workers.  Some indices will even allow you to add a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a census record that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a nephew, not a son). If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain about it, correct them.  The more we share our information, the faster we will all advance.   All IMO, of course, Diana > -----Original Message----- <snip> > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any   > information on line at their site.  They love to use every > bit of it and  some is incorrect!  Maybe you have an idea where to > look on Ancestry that I  have missed. > <snip> > > Nora   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

None of the online databases -- not the LDS, not Ancestry, not RootsWeb, not Broderbund -- check the accuracy of the information uploaded to their sites, much less edit and correct it. They couldn't possibly provide the personnel that would be required to do so. They're simply offering us these databases as tools for the exchange information, but it's entirely up to us to evaluate the validity of that information. WorldConnect, at least, allows you to post corrections online, on the database itself. I know of no way to correct bad information in the other databases, except to counteract it by posting the correct information elsewhere online (e.g., on our own web sites). At least with online information, the errors *can* be replaced with correct information. Errors burned onto CDs, for example by Broderbund (Genealogy.com)'s "WorldFamilyTrees" and the LDS's "Pedigree Files," will, like works printed on paper, continue to be perpetuated by novices for the foreseeable future. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of dianelovejoy@comcast.net > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:47 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] WILL HELP > > Yes good points.  I think a lot of the misinformation is put > up with the idea that someone will come along and correct it > or with the idea that it will be corrected once the correct > information is found.  I think most if not all databases are > a work in progress. > > > >

If you upload information to Ancestry.com, of course they're going to use it. If you don't like your information being used by Ancestry, don't upload it to Ancestry. Most of what's free at Ancestry.com has been uploaded by users, so blame other users for the errors, not Ancestry.com. At least in the case of RootsWebWorldConnect / AncestryWorldTrees (same database, different interface), you can add Postems supplying the correct information for any errors you find. Most of what's really valuable at Ancestry.com requires a paid subscription to access. It's not a question of knowing, ahead of time, where to look. Whatever they have, their search engine will find, provided you try enough spelling variations of the name. Most of their databases will allow you to add a correction to the index, so it behooves all of us to add the standard spelling for names that are misspelled in the index, as an aid to future workers. Some indices will even allow you to add a comment to, for example, indicate the correct relationships in a census record that is, on the face of it, misleading (e.g., that a young boy is a nephew, not a son). If you see a fellow genealogist is in error, don't complain about it, correct them. The more we share our information, the faster we will all advance. All IMO, of course, Diana > -----Original Message----- <snip> > > I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any > information on line at their site. They love to use every > bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to > look on Ancestry that I have missed. > <snip> > > Nora

In a message dated 12/15/2009 11:13:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bessieturley@hotmail.com writes: HELLO AND MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!! i know most ppl have ancestry.com now days but if there is anyone who does not and needs help please email me at bessieturley@hotmail.com. will do what i can to help. again merry christmas!!!!! bessie turley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Bessie, I have ancestry.com, but wonder if you would make a try in finding Alexander (Alex) Brown b. 1837 GA. He married a woman named Augusta b. 1840 GA. The children: Jackson C. b. 1860 FL, Albert b. 1862 FL, Susan b. 1864 FL, Minny b. 1866 FL, Harriet b. 1888 FL. The only place I can find this family is on the 1870 Alachua Co. FL census. Before or after has not been found! Jackson C. is my line. I know nothing of the other children and wished I did! I would like to find Alex's parents, Augusta's last name (German?), and where Alex was before and after 1870 census. Alex and Augusta are my gg-grandparents. Jackson C. is my line and I do have material on him although I can't find him after 1888. His children were placed in an orphanage in Macon, GA before the 1900 census. Except for my grandfather and his two brothers and one sister, I can't find too much on these children either. I am not very good at Ancestry and avoid like the plague to put any information on line at their site. They love to use every bit of it and some is incorrect! Maybe you have an idea where to look on Ancestry that I have missed. Thanks for anything you can do to help me over the brick wall! A very Merry Christmas and a wonderful New Year! Nora

HELLO AND MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!! i know most ppl have ancestry.com now days but if there is anyone who does not and needs help please email me at bessieturley@hotmail.com. will do what i can to help. again merry christmas!!!!! bessie turley

HI, I KNOW MOST PPL HAVE ANCESTRY.COM BUT FOR THOSE OF U WHO DO NOT I WILL GLADLY HELP U IN ANY WAY I CAN. I ONLY HAVE THE UNITED STATES PART OF ANCESTRY BUT IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF INFO. CAN NOT AFFORD ALL THE REST,SORRY. BUT I LOVE DOING GENEALOGY SO IF U NEED HEL PLEASE EMAIL ME AT bessieturley@hotmail.com MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!! BESSIE