Hi All, I have been into geneaology since 1999, and at that time subscribed to Ancestry.  I have been a member since that time and have found it very beneficial.  I allow my data to be uploaded and utilized by anyone wishing to do so.  The greatest majority of my data is verified thanks to the newer versions of Ancestry 2009 and 10.  I would not be without the program personally.  Seems like many of you are complaining for no good or rational reason.  If you wish to do all the traveling from one courthouse to the other, that is your priviledge and more power to you.  Basically, if you don't like Ancestry.com, don't subscribe.  No one is forcing you to do so!  But quit crying like babies that they charge for membership.  They spend alot of money obtaining your online data, sending people to the State capitals and to Washington, DC to all the archives.  Do you have that kind of time? May God Bless you and yours! Jim

Diana, Exactly............there is very useful data out there.........we just need to be responsible and double check info on family trees.  I was aware that Colbert County was formed from Franklin County between 1860-1870. My family lived at Rock Creek and now I understand there is only a dog cemetery, for hunting dogs, in that area.  I was discouraged from even trying to find it to walk the area my grandparents walked.   Billie   "Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal"   --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> wrote: From: Diana Gale Matthiesen <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> Subject: Re: [BROWN] James Brown born 1819 To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 9:58 PM Colbert County was formed in 1867 from part of Franklin County, so it would appear that they didn't move, but rather that they lived in the part of Franklin County that later became Colbert County. One nice thing about much of the data on Ancestry is primary records (e.g., the censuses).  One unexpectedly useful primary source at Ancestry is the WWI draft card index and card images.  Most of the cards give the individual's full name, birth date, birth location, and the name of their closest relatives, usually the parents of a single man or the spouse of a married man.  You even get a sample of the registrant's signature, because he had to sign the card. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Billie > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:19 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] James Brown born 1819 > > I am looking for James Brown born 1819 in Tennessee and  > married Sarah Hodge/s about 1845.  They are in Franklin > County, Alabama by 1850 and later were enumerated in Colbert > County, Alabama; don't know if they moved or if it was just > because the county line moved about that time.  I believe > James died in Tishomingo County, Mississippi after 1910.  I > would love to find a death information and information > leading to his family from a second wife. I am totally > devoted to finding family members. >   > Oh yes, for the record, I use Ancestry because they give me a > starting point.  I know fully that it is up to me to > substaniate the information for myself.  I find that > sometimes  it's easier to try to rule out the information as posted. >   > Billie > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At least one thing good seems to have come out of the discussion on Ancestry.com's use of once free info.....the discussion has stirred people to post again.   I subscribe to Ancestry.com and have uploaded (and am still in the process of uploading) my tree there, along with the sources found there on each person. It at least is one place where you can make changes as things evolve. It is not set in stone and I don't take anyone else's tree, there or elsewhere as set in stone. But as someone said it is a good place to look for leads.   Also I have been one of those people who said contact me off line. NOT because I didn't want to share my info. Heavens I've sent more than I've received most of the time...on other of my lines. The times I have received more than I sent it might have been just one date or other small morsel that someone gave me which opened up unbelievable amounts of data and sometimes even long lost relatives. In the future I will try to stay on line more.   My brick wall is my husband's grandfather, William Etheridge/Ethridge Brown. We have him on the 1900 and 1910 Gordo, Pickens Co, AL census, we have the notation from Ancestry.com of his marrigae in Jan 1901 to Zelpha Ann Lowe and the name of the Primitive Baptist Church there. Then we have a PROBABLE death certificate with little info in 1919 in Harris Co, TX.    Both census records show William E was born in TN and that his parents were both born in NC. The 1900 census gives his birth as May 1859 and lists him as single and a border working as a mechanic. That would make him 41 when he married Zelpha who was 18. The 1910 census shows age 48 (makes him 3 years younger) and shows him married to Zelpha with children Henry, Allen and Bell.  AND there is a list written by Zelpha on the family, shows William's age as May 25, 1861. The probably death certificate shows W E Brown who died in 1919 in Harris Co, TX. It shows his age as abt 58 which would be consistant with the 1861 birth date. It lists his occupation as farmer and states he had had the amoebic dysentary for 2 years, a contriburaty factor was pallegra that he had had for 8 months. It also shows he was widowed.   Now let me address the questions here. 1. born 1859 or 1861. I tend toward 1859 as May was listed which agrees with Zelpha's list, so possibly he gave the info himself. Then it is possible that he shaved 3 years off his age when courting a girl more than 20 years younger than himself. 39 somehow sounds a lot younger than 42. I've read of this happening in other lines and once shaved off you can't really ever add them back. Allen's mother was actually 4 years older than she thought she was when we found her baptismal record. But either could be right or somewhere in between.   2. The death certificate shows "widowed". Zelpha didn't die till the 1960's. However, she was married to Tom Weatherall on the 1920 TX census. I have 2 other death certificates in our lines that show an incorrect marital status. All are TX certificates, but from different counties and are definately the right person and I definately have first hand knowledge that they are incorrect. The death certificate was in the posession of William's daughter Bell before she died and that is one reason why I believe it to be for the correct man. Also on his marriage license William is shown as W E Brown the same as on the death certificate, the age is correct and the fact that he was an alcoholic would lead you to believe the cause of death was reasonable. The family had split up in 1917 and Zelpha and the kids had come to Texas. Story goes William followed but they did not get back together.   This is our entire paper trail for William Etheridge/Ethridge Brown. My husband had DNA done at FamilytreeDNA.com and has a couple of of 67/67 matches and a 25/25 match. One match goes back to Thomas Brown probably born very roughly estimated about 1714 unknown place, but who shows up in Bladen Co, NC in 1761 with a son Thomas whom we have not been able to trace, a son Edmund and possibly a dau as Richard King was living with them on an early tax list. The 25/25 match goes back to Johnston Co, NC from the present to 1755 and possibly to VA before that.   Any help would be appreciated.   Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, CBrown2466@aol.com <CBrown2466@aol.com> wrote: From: CBrown2466@aol.com <CBrown2466@aol.com> Subject: [BROWN] BROWN] information To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:16 AM Responding to a comment on Brown family tree information to  Ancestry.com.  By the way I believe that subject lines should be changed if  the subject changes.    I agree!  What is really secret about family tree  information anyway!    Living folks private information should be kept  private, but if someone was lucky enough to have found something of use, why not  share it!    I was nearly 60 years old before I found out that my great  grandfather Brown had siblings.  No one in my line talked about earlier  family lines.  A second cousin from one of those unknown lines living  in my home state found me.   We shared tree information and now I am  much further along on the Brown line.   There have been other  successes on other lines because of that meeting.   My line of Browns was posted on my web site for years and was  accidentally removed recently.   I plan to repost when I  purchase a new version of family tree software.  The web  site is   _http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Carl-C-Brown/index.html_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Carl-C-Brown/index.html)   Searching Brown, Wisler, Teeter, Browning, Proffitt, Norwood,  Thompson, Buchwitz, Delzer, and many more families.   Carl Brown ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for any and all informatiion on the family of John Hester Brown born Illinois 1870 Dix Jefferson County. His sister E.C. was born in Dix 1872. Brother Thomas L. was born in 1864 in Illinois. Probably parents John (Union Civil War Veteran) and -----Benson married 1859 in Jefferson County Ill. Thank you and Happy Holidays.Theresa

Responding to a comment on Brown family tree information to Ancestry.com. By the way I believe that subject lines should be changed if the subject changes. I agree! What is really secret about family tree information anyway! Living folks private information should be kept private, but if someone was lucky enough to have found something of use, why not share it! I was nearly 60 years old before I found out that my great grandfather Brown had siblings. No one in my line talked about earlier family lines. A second cousin from one of those unknown lines living in my home state found me. We shared tree information and now I am much further along on the Brown line. There have been other successes on other lines because of that meeting. My line of Browns was posted on my web site for years and was accidentally removed recently. I plan to repost when I purchase a new version of family tree software. The web site is _http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Carl-C-Brown/index.html_ (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/r/o/Carl-C-Brown/index.html) Searching Brown, Wisler, Teeter, Browning, Proffitt, Norwood, Thompson, Buchwitz, Delzer, and many more families. Carl Brown

Yes Ancestry has North Carolina death certificates that helped me find my grandfather's siblings.  I had been searching for information on them for years.  A fellow ancestry subscriber had uploaded her file that had the names listed.  I was able to confirm what she had plus get additional info that I had not been able to find elsewhere. Merry Christmas See full size image Happy New Year

I am looking for information on my great grandmother's twin > brother.  The information I do have is the following:  James > W. Brown, born 8 Mar 1879 in Obion County, Tennessee to Hiram > Reeves Brown and Cisely Jane Baker.  I've seen Cisely spelled > a few different ways and I usually find Hiram listed as H R > Brown.  He may have moved to Arkansas or Missouri.   > > Merry Christmas See full size image Happy New Year

Sorry about that I meant to change the subject line.  I forgot and didn't do it.  I realized what I had done the minute I hit send. Merry Christmas See full size image Happy New Year ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <DianaGM@dgmweb.net> To: brown@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 4:21:41 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [BROWN] James W. BROWN, b. 1879, Obion Co., TN If you change the subject, please change the Subject.   It's to your own benefit to do so. > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of dianelovejoy@comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:51 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > > > I am looking for information on my great grandmother's twin > brother.  The information I do have is the following:  James > W. Brown, born 8 Mar 1879 in Obion County, Tennessee to Hiram > Reeves Brown and Cisely Jane Baker.  I've seen Cisely spelled > a few different ways and I usually find Hiram listed as H R > Brown.  He may have moved to Arkansas or Missouri.   > > > > Thanks > >   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My brick wall is Elisha K. Brown b. abt 1819 in Tennessee, Missouri or North Carolina. I have been looking for the names and birth dates of his father and mother without any success for years. Here is the information I do have: In 1839, Elisha married Emily Sanford b. 8 Mar 1824. In the 1850 US Federal Census (McNairy) and 1860 US Federal Census (Madison, TN), Emily and Elisha have the following children: Sarah Brown b. abt 1843 in Tennessee, USA;Mary Brown b. abt 1844 in Tennessee, USA;John Brown b. abt 1845 in Tennessee, USA;Henry Brown b. abt 1846 in Tennessee, USA;Josiah Brown b. abt 1847 in Tennessee, USA;James Brown b. abt 1848 in Tennessee, USA;Thomas Balaam Brown b. abt 1849 in Tennessee, USA;William Jasper Brown b. 15 Dec 1850 in Tennessee, USA;Elisha Brown b. abt 1853 in Tennessee, USA;George Brown b. abt 1854 in Tennessee, USA;Elizabeth Brown b. abt 1855 in Tennessee, USA; and Robert Brown b. abt 1858 in Tennessee, USA. Elisha and Emily had one more child: Charlie b. abt 1861 in Tennessee, USA. Emily must have died sometime between 1861 and 1870. In the 1870 US Federal Census (Madison, TN), she is no longer listed with Elisha and his family. Elisha married Martha Ann Kilpatrick on 29 Jan 1873. In the 1880 US Federal Census (Madison, TN), Elisha and Martha have three children living with them: George b. abt 1857 in Tennessee, USA;Charlie b. abt 1861 in Tennessee, USA; andLorenza b. abt 1876 in Tennessee, USA. Since Elisha and Martha weren't married in 1861, George and Charlie are Emily's children. I believe Emily's parents were John Sanford b. 1788 and Lucy Newsom b. 1793. If anything about Elisha or Emily sounds familiar to you - perhaps, you have a Brown ancester who might be a brother/sister, cousin, or uncle/aunt - I would love to hear from you. Perhaps, I'll get a lead from you which will lead me to more information about Elisha and Emily. ~Elizabeth Eells

Colbert County was formed in 1867 from part of Franklin County, so it would appear that they didn't move, but rather that they lived in the part of Franklin County that later became Colbert County. One nice thing about much of the data on Ancestry is primary records (e.g., the censuses). One unexpectedly useful primary source at Ancestry is the WWI draft card index and card images. Most of the cards give the individual's full name, birth date, birth location, and the name of their closest relatives, usually the parents of a single man or the spouse of a married man. You even get a sample of the registrant's signature, because he had to sign the card. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Billie > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:19 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BROWN] James Brown born 1819 > > I am looking for James Brown born 1819 in Tennessee and  > married Sarah Hodge/s about 1845.  They are in Franklin > County, Alabama by 1850 and later were enumerated in Colbert > County, Alabama; don't know if they moved or if it was just > because the county line moved about that time.  I believe > James died in Tishomingo County, Mississippi after 1910.  I > would love to find a death information and information > leading to his family from a second wife. I am totally > devoted to finding family members. >   > Oh yes, for the record, I use Ancestry because they give me a > starting point.  I know fully that it is up to me to > substaniate the information for myself.  I find that > sometimes  it's easier to try to rule out the information as posted. >   > Billie > >

Very little of what you're paying for with an Ancestry subscription is user-uploaded information. Most of the user-uploaded information is on RootsWeb and is still free. I'm a little confused by your use of the phrase, "my own information." Facts cannot be owned by anyone, and I don't see how you can tell whether a fact was gathered by you or by someone else, especially when you say you've never uploaded anything to Ancestry. But if you already have so much information that you can't benefit from subscribing to Ancestry, by all means don't subscribe. I find my subscription worth every penny. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Claudia > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:34 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > <snip> > I have never down loaded any thing on ancestry, but I sure do > fine lot of my information there on several different families. > I am tired of paying ancestry for my own information. Will > never subscribe again. > > Claudia > >

Thought this might be a good time to stare down the brick wall again. My g-grandfather, Jacob Feltenberger Brown was born 28 may 1844, Harrison County, Ohio; m. Martha Anne Capps 4 apr 1879, Fort Scott, Bourbon, Kansas; d. 11 mar 1926, Fort Scott Jacob's father was James Brown, b. Ohio; his mother Mary Magdelene Feltenberger, b. abt 1829 Harrison County, Ohio, remarried to Watters I can piece together the Feltenberger line, but the Browns have completely eluded me. Anyone know of this family? My website is www.roots.budzilla.com I'm always thrilled to hear from potential "cousins" and will gladly share what little I have on this branch of the Browns. Peace, and happy hunting, Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO www.roots. budzilla.com If at first you don't succeed, maybe losing is more your style.

Looking for parents of Lethe (Lethy) Brown b. 1805-10 N.C. married James C. Smith in Guilford Co. N.C. 1827. Their marriage bond was signed by John Brown..........Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.508) Database version: 6.13940 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/

I too, have a William Henry Harrison Brown, son of Samuel Right Brown and Eunice Annable of Yates Co., NY. In a message dated 12/17/2009 3:26:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dalell@embarqmail.com writes: Most rootsweb frown on making a very long message; I got kicked off Lee's rootweb because I was saying about the same thing Bud is now saying; I don't think there are many left on there right now. (Lee's rootsweb) I would love to exchange information and I have on this rootsweb with no problem with the boss. We Browns have so many William Henry Brown's (my grandfather b 1868 IN.) that it was hard to sort all of them. As soon as it is found out that my grandfather was born out of wedlock And his father was married and also had children with wife number on; and more children with wife number two. But he never married Ellen Johnson born Ohio 1835 my gr grandmother) my gr grandfather was William (H?) Brown born abt 1822 Ohio; I have tracked his line to Samuel Brown b VA abt 1797. All from Lancaster PA. Names in this line: Braum -Brown-Bryant-Johnson-Lee-McCreery Smith- Weber- Kager Any ideas on this family love to hear from you; right here if allowed. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people who close their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're subverting the purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from experience that these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving anything in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which is the reason everything I have is online: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great-grandfather, Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols > ... if you > do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make > contact with someone who might have information you can use, please > don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the > information to the online discussion. > > Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living > relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing > relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold > mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls > and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly > common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. > > I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - > confirmed or > not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective > group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. > > My .02. > > Peace, > > Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO > www.roots.budzilla.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: 12/17/09 02:30:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree, also. If everyone would work together and not offline, just maybe we could break down some brick walls. I post everything that I find, except for a living person. I have never down loaded any thing on ancestry, but I sure do fine lot of my information there on several different families. I am tired of paying ancestry for my own information. Will never subscribe again. Claudia

I am looking for a Samuel Brown who died around 1831, in Indiana or Ohio. He has a son (Isom Payne Brown) born around 1827 in southern Indiana. Any connecting family line info would be greatly appreciated. Jim Brown Minneapolis, MN SONAVAN@aol.com wrote: > I too, have a William Henry Harrison Brown, son of Samuel Right Brown and > Eunice Annable of Yates Co., NY. > > > In a message dated 12/17/2009 3:26:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > dalell@embarqmail.com writes: > > Most rootsweb frown on making a very long message; I got kicked off > Lee's rootweb because I was saying about the same thing Bud is now saying; > I don't think there are many left on there right now. (Lee's rootsweb) > > I would love to exchange information and I have on this rootsweb with no > problem with the boss. > > We Browns have so many William Henry Brown's (my grandfather b 1868 IN.) > that it was hard to sort all of them. As soon as it is found out that my > grandfather was born out of wedlock > And his father was married and also had children with wife number on; and > more children with wife number two. > But he never married Ellen Johnson born Ohio 1835 my gr grandmother) my gr > grandfather was William (H?) Brown born abt 1822 Ohio; I have tracked his > line to Samuel Brown b VA abt 1797. > All from Lancaster PA. > > Names in this line: Braum -Brown-Bryant-Johnson-Lee-McCreery > Smith- Weber- Kager > > Any ideas on this family love to hear from you; right here if allowed. > > Ellie > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:55 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people who > close > their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're subverting > the > purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from experience > that > these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving > anything > in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which is > the > reason everything I have is online: > > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml > > Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great-grandfather, > Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. > http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml > > Diana > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry >> >> Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols >> ... if you >> do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make >> contact with someone who might have information you can use, please >> don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the >> information to the online discussion. >> >> Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living >> relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing >> relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold >> mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls >> and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly >> common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. >> >> I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - >> confirmed or >> not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective >> group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. >> >> My .02. >> >> Peace, >> >> Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO >> www.roots.budzilla.com >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: > 12/17/09 > 02:30:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have no middle name on my Samuel but he married 9 Aug 1821 In Clinton Ohio to Phoebe Smith b 1800 Harrison Ohio d bout 1790 in Indiana They had 10 children only 2 male children my Gr Grandfather and Andrew b abt 1834 OH; d abt 1900 Decatur Indiana. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SONAVAN@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:41 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry I too, have a William Henry Harrison Brown, son of Samuel Right Brown and Eunice Annable of Yates Co., NY. In a message dated 12/17/2009 3:26:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dalell@embarqmail.com writes: Most rootsweb frown on making a very long message; I got kicked off Lee's rootweb because I was saying about the same thing Bud is now saying; I don't think there are many left on there right now. (Lee's rootsweb) I would love to exchange information and I have on this rootsweb with no problem with the boss. We Browns have so many William Henry Brown's (my grandfather b 1868 IN.) that it was hard to sort all of them. As soon as it is found out that my grandfather was born out of wedlock And his father was married and also had children with wife number on; and more children with wife number two. But he never married Ellen Johnson born Ohio 1835 my gr grandmother) my gr grandfather was William (H?) Brown born abt 1822 Ohio; I have tracked his line to Samuel Brown b VA abt 1797. All from Lancaster PA. Names in this line: Braum -Brown-Bryant-Johnson-Lee-McCreery Smith- Weber- Kager Any ideas on this family love to hear from you; right here if allowed. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:55 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people who close their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're subverting the purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from experience that these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving anything in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which is the reason everything I have is online: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd great-grandfather, Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols > ... if you > do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make > contact with someone who might have information you can use, please > don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the > information to the online discussion. > > Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living > relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing > relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold > mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls > and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly > common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. > > I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - > confirmed or > not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective > group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. > > My .02. > > Peace, > > Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO > www.roots.budzilla.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: 12/17/09 02:30:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: 12/17/09 02:30:00

I am looking for James Brown born 1819 in Tennessee and  married Sarah Hodge/s about 1845.  They are in Franklin County, Alabama by 1850 and later were enumerated in Colbert County, Alabama; don't know if they moved or if it was just because the county line moved about that time.  I believe James died in Tishomingo County, Mississippi after 1910.  I would love to find a death information and information leading to his family from a second wife. I am totally devoted to finding family members.   Oh yes, for the record, I use Ancestry because they give me a starting point.  I know fully that it is up to me to substaniate the information for myself.  I find that sometimes  it's easier to try to rule out the information as posted.   Billie     "Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal"  

HEY! How about staying on-subject OR changing the subject line of the email.....?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Brown" <brown014@umn.edu> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry >I am looking for a Samuel Brown who died around 1831, in Indiana or > Ohio. He has a son (Isom Payne Brown) born around 1827 in southern > Indiana. Any connecting family line info would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Brown > Minneapolis, MN > > > > > SONAVAN@aol.com wrote: >> I too, have a William Henry Harrison Brown, son of Samuel Right Brown and >> Eunice Annable of Yates Co., NY. >> >> >> In a message dated 12/17/2009 3:26:18 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, >> dalell@embarqmail.com writes: >> >> Most rootsweb frown on making a very long message; I got kicked off >> Lee's rootweb because I was saying about the same thing Bud is now >> saying; >> I don't think there are many left on there right now. (Lee's rootsweb) >> >> I would love to exchange information and I have on this rootsweb with >> no >> problem with the boss. >> >> We Browns have so many William Henry Brown's (my grandfather b 1868 IN.) >> that it was hard to sort all of them. As soon as it is found out that my >> grandfather was born out of wedlock >> And his father was married and also had children with wife number on; >> and >> more children with wife number two. >> But he never married Ellen Johnson born Ohio 1835 my gr grandmother) my >> gr >> grandfather was William (H?) Brown born abt 1822 Ohio; I have tracked >> his >> line to Samuel Brown b VA abt 1797. >> All from Lancaster PA. >> >> Names in this line: Braum -Brown-Bryant-Johnson-Lee-McCreery >> Smith- Weber- Kager >> >> Any ideas on this family love to hear from you; right here if allowed. >> >> Ellie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Diana Gale Matthiesen >> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:55 PM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry >> >> Totally agree, Bud. To tell you the truth, I get ticked off at people >> who >> close >> their messages with a request to contact them offline. They're >> subverting >> the >> purpose of online boards and mailing lists. I've learned from >> experience >> that >> these people are usually the type who will pump you dry, without giving >> anything >> in return. Except for living persons, secrecy is anathema to me, which >> is >> the >> reason everything I have is online: >> >> http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/GenealogyHome.shtml >> >> Still hasn't helped me with my BROWNs, though. My 3rd >> great-grandfather, >> Willard BROWN, remains as elusive as ever. >> http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/FGS/B/BrownWillard-MaryRasey.shtml >> >> Diana >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Bud Simpson >>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM >>> To: brown@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry >>> >>> Another point, as long as we're dissecting online protocols >>> ... if you >>> do participate in a message board or mailing list, and you make >>> contact with someone who might have information you can use, please >>> don't ask them to contact you directly instead of posting the >>> information to the online discussion. >>> >>> Yes, if you have sensitive information and/or information on living >>> relatives, by all means, keep it private. But if you're discussing >>> relationships of ancestors, some small nugget might well be a gold >>> mine for someone like me who is struggling with multiple brick walls >>> and a couple of needles-in-haystacks. People researching incredibly >>> common surnames like BROWN can appreciate this. >>> >>> I publish every scrap of information I get my hands on - >>> confirmed or >>> not - because there is great error-correcting power in a collective >>> group of users working toward the same goals. Share the wealth. >>> >>> My .02. >>> >>> Peace, >>> >>> Bud Simpson - Kansas City, MO >>> www.roots.budzilla.com >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.111/2570 - Release Date: >> 12/17/09 >> 02:30:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

If you change the subject, please change the Subject. It's to your own benefit to do so. > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of dianelovejoy@comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 11:51 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Uploads (?) to ancestry > > > > I am looking for information on my great grandmother's twin > brother.  The information I do have is the following:  James > W. Brown, born 8 Mar 1879 in Obion County, Tennessee to Hiram > Reeves Brown and Cisely Jane Baker.  I've seen Cisely spelled > a few different ways and I usually find Hiram listed as H R > Brown.  He may have moved to Arkansas or Missouri.   > > > > Thanks > >