Here is the address to Ysearch: http://www.ysearch.org/ If you were tested somewhere other than FTDNA, you can open an account by clicking the "Create a New User" tab. If you were tested at FTDNA, do not open your account this way. Create your account from within your FTDNA member page. Not only is this way easier, because the FTDNA server will automatically transfer your results to your Ysearch account (entering them manually is tedious and prone to errors), it will link your FTDNA account with your Ysearch account, making it easier to access Ysearch. To do so... First, log in to your FTDNA member page. Over towards the bottom left, click the link to Ysearch.org, listed under the heading, "Tools." I can't walk you through the rest of the steps because I'm already a member (via my father's test). The server recognizes me and keeps offering up the page for me to enter my existing UserID and password, instead of offering the form to create a new account. But once you've clicked the Ysearch.org link, you should be able to manage OK by following the instructions given. FTDNA is the "900-lb gorilla" of DNA testing, but I'm always reluctant to tout them because I have six projects based there (five surname projects and a regional project), so obviously I'm biased towards them. Then again, maybe that's testimonial enough, that I chose FTDNA as the place to base my projects after carefully studying all the options. By all means, do not let the price of an introductory test be the only factor considered when choosing a lab. In the end, it can be false economy. Quite a number of my project members first got tested somewhere else, then were so dissatisfied, they ended up getting tested, again, at FTDNA, making their basic testing far more expensive than it needed to be. I have quite a bit of general information on my personal web site, including introductory information, that I've built up over the years as an aid to my project members. You may find some of it useful. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/DNA-hub.shtml Good hunting, Diana P.S. There is a parallel site for mtDNA testing called mitoSearch: http://www.mitosearch.org/ If you want a UserID to play with at mitoSearch, mine is A4ABX. If you would like to play with a UserID at Ysearch, my father's is KBBX2. His mtDNA results were uploaded to mitoSearch, too, and it's the same UserID -- another benefit of joining from your FTDNA member page. > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of nbacton@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:25 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > > I am not familiar with Ysearch. Could you give me the > address of this group? I agree with you about Ancestry. > It is written in very small print but everything you submit > to them is theirs to do with as they want. You have given > up all rights to your work. > > I have 4 DNA projects with FamilyTree and I have been > continuously please with their help and their support of > privacy. One research group has placed them at the top of > the list for DNA companies to use.

My daughter in law is an Odom; she was from Mississippi Now married to my son Lyon/ Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:02 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees Have you tried contacting any of the Maxwell's or Ramseys? A 25/25 match could maybe be as far back as the beginning of surnames, but a 37 should be a lot closer.  Allen has very few matches, but on Ancestry.com he matches a group of Odoms 34/34 (they didn't test all the same markers). So far I haven't been able to get any info from them, but it's very interesting as the ancestor of one of his 67/67 Brown matches bought land in 1761 from an Odom and lived near Odoms. If nothing else the families may have migrated from the same original area.   Carolyn Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, FBrown726@aol.com <FBrown726@aol.com> wrote: From: FBrown726@aol.com <FBrown726@aol.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 11:07 AM FamilyTreeDNA is the place where my study was done in the Brown DNA  project. I did a 37 marker test and had several 25/25 and 37/37 matches. The  higher the markers tested the more Ramsey and Maxwell people there are. I cannot locate my information to access the site right now so cannot be more specific.  Perhaps my 2nd. great grandfather was a traveling man, who knows? His name was  William Brown which is of little help pinning him down. Might as well  be John Jones. Frank Brown Kansas City My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches there  (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from other Browns there. Now that  more labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be able to compare  the results. FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown  project. I haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no  idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare them.  FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org where anyone from any  lab can upload their results and search by matching results or by name. You  don't have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like to see if we  can either get everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to  either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber  there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can be viewed for  comparison with their DNA. For those who have tested it is then  obvious if a line is yours or not. What do you all think? Carolyn  and Allen Ethridge Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn  <dalell@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Eleanor Prieskorn  <dalell@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown  bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday,  December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM Infor@familytree.com for  us. Ellie -----Original Message----- From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of  Carolyn Brown Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM To:  brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY  to Ellie and Frank What lab did you test with and how close are the  matches? Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown  Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker  <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown  bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday,  December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM Sorry to hear you are in the same boat  too. Well that thought has crossed my mind too. Another thought  is that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer  Brown told my grandfather that our surname was really Flanagan and we are  from Dublin Ireland. So I have also ticked the name Flanagan as well as  Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA of my  brother. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From:  <FBrown726@aol.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday,  December 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it  awesome! Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >I did the DNA test and  my best matches are with folks with the names of > Maxwell and Ramsey. Did  the bull jump the fence? > > Frank Brown > Kansas  City > > > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it  first came out. No matches  yet > ....still waiting. > >  Carol Brown Parker > > Me too; and still no  matches. >  Ellie > Warsaw MO. > > -----Original Message----- >  From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com]  On > Behalf Of  Carol Brown Parker > Sent: Friday, December 18,  2009 5:51 PM > To:  brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN]  Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome!  Plus > JohnEbenezer >  Brown born Nov 1822 > > Have used it for years. I would  not be  where I am today without it > either. > An example flew to  Toronto > to  visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him  and hardly got > a > thing. Upgraded to a newer > version of  FTM put in the same data could not  believe what my FTM found >  in > Ancestry for me. So > many documents that lead  to other  ancestors. It is well worth the yearly > fee > > and I have  just  received > the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost  effective. > > My only  brick wall is my gggrandfather John  Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 > also in  census showing as John C.  Brown > and John E Brown. The first name is the real  one as I found  the decendant > with his John's family bible and I took  pictures of  the pages. It dates > back > > to 1855 and then I made my own  bible  from the pages. My ggrandfather said > he > > was  from Dublin > Ireland and  have found no proof of that but census  says NY and sometimes > Vermont. > > I had my brother do the  Brown DNA when it first came out. No  matches yet > ....still  waiting. > > Carol Brown  Parker >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,   please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word   'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of  the  message > No virus found in this incoming message. >  Checked by AVG -  www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database:  270.14.113/2573 - Release  Date: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: 12/19/09 02:33:00

In a message dated 12/19/2009 1:34:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DianaGM@dgmweb.net writes: I run five DNA surname projects at FTDNA, and I encourage all my members to upload to Ysearch. I have also subsidized a couple of dozen tests, always with the stipulation that a requirement for the subsidy is uploading to Ysearch. So, yes, I think Ysearch is now, and will continue to be, the best "general" database to use for uploading and searching. Do be careful about uploading to Ancestry. My "impression" is that if you do, you're basically giving them the data to use as they see fit, including keeping it and republishing it. [Does someone know for certain?] At Ysearch, you can remove your data any time you want. You can also remove yourself from the FTDNA database any time you want, even if you were tested there, because they make no claim of ownership of your data (or your sample). Wherever you decide to get tested or to upload your data, make certain you are aware of whether you are surrendering legal title it, assuming you care one way or another. Test results without a lineage are, as you know, virtually useless, so I am very persistent in my projects to get good lineages associated with the results. Not all project admins make such an effort, however, so it's a matter of luck how useful results are from different projects. I wish those admins who aren't doing it would either take on a co-admin or two -- or give up the project and let someone else run it. But if they don't, the alternative is for us to upload to Ysearch, including a GEDCOM of the patrilineal line. Wow! It would be such a useful database if everyone did it! Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:30 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > > My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 > matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded > his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches > there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more > labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be > able to compare the results. > > FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I > haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and > have no idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you > can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called > www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload their > results and search by matching results or by name. You don't > have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like > to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has > tested to upload their results to either that site or > Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber > there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can > be viewed for comparison with their DNA. > > For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is > yours or not. What do you all think? > > Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message I am not familiar with Ysearch. Could you give me the address of this group? I agree with you about Ancestry. It is written in very small print but everything you submit to them is theirs to do with as they want. You have given up all rights to your work. I have 4 DNA projects with FamilyTree and I have been continuously please with their help and their support of privacy. One research group has placed them at the top of the list for DNA companies to use.

Have you tried contacting any of the Maxwell's or Ramseys? A 25/25 match could maybe be as far back as the beginning of surnames, but a 37 should be a lot closer.  Allen has very few matches, but on Ancestry.com he matches a group of Odoms 34/34 (they didn't test all the same markers). So far I haven't been able to get any info from them, but it's very interesting as the ancestor of one of his 67/67 Brown matches bought land in 1761 from an Odom and lived near Odoms. If nothing else the families may have migrated from the same original area.   Carolyn Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, FBrown726@aol.com <FBrown726@aol.com> wrote: From: FBrown726@aol.com <FBrown726@aol.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 11:07 AM FamilyTreeDNA is the place where my study was done in the Brown DNA  project. I did a 37 marker test and had several 25/25 and 37/37 matches. The  higher the markers tested the more Ramsey and Maxwell people there are. I cannot locate my information to access the site right now so cannot be more specific.  Perhaps my 2nd. great grandfather was a traveling man, who knows? His name was  William Brown which is of little help pinning him down. Might as well  be John Jones. Frank Brown Kansas City My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches there  (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from other Browns there. Now that  more labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be able to compare  the results. FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown  project. I haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no  idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare them.  FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org where anyone from any  lab can upload their results and search by matching results or by name. You  don't have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like to see if we  can either get everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to  either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber  there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can be viewed for  comparison with their DNA. For those who have tested it is then  obvious if a line is yours or not. What do you all think? Carolyn  and Allen Ethridge Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn  <dalell@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Eleanor Prieskorn  <dalell@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown  bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday,  December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM Infor@familytree.com for  us. Ellie -----Original Message----- From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of  Carolyn Brown Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM To:  brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY  to Ellie and Frank What lab did you test with and how close are the  matches? Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown  Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker  <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown  bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday,  December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM Sorry to hear you are in the same boat  too. Well that thought has crossed my mind too. Another thought  is that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer  Brown told my grandfather that our surname was really Flanagan and we are  from Dublin Ireland. So I have also ticked the name Flanagan as well as  Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA of my  brother. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From:  <FBrown726@aol.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday,  December 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it  awesome! Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >I did the DNA test and  my best matches are with folks with the names of > Maxwell and Ramsey. Did  the bull jump the fence? > > Frank Brown > Kansas  City > > > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it  first came out. No matches  yet > ....still waiting. > >  Carol Brown Parker > > Me too; and still no  matches. >  Ellie > Warsaw MO. > > -----Original Message----- >  From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com]  On > Behalf Of  Carol Brown Parker > Sent: Friday, December 18,  2009 5:51 PM > To:  brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN]  Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome!  Plus > JohnEbenezer >  Brown born Nov 1822 > > Have used it for years. I would  not be  where I am today without it > either. > An example flew to  Toronto > to  visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him  and hardly got > a > thing. Upgraded to a newer > version of  FTM put in the same data could not  believe what my FTM found >  in > Ancestry for me. So > many documents that lead  to other  ancestors. It is well worth the yearly > fee > > and I have  just  received > the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost  effective. > > My only  brick wall is my gggrandfather John  Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 > also in  census showing as John C.  Brown > and John E Brown. The first name is the real  one as I found  the decendant > with his John's family bible and I took  pictures of  the pages. It dates > back > > to 1855 and then I made my own  bible  from the pages. My ggrandfather said > he > > was  from Dublin > Ireland and  have found no proof of that but census  says NY and sometimes > Vermont. > > I had my brother do the  Brown DNA when it first came out. No  matches yet > ....still  waiting. > > Carol Brown  Parker >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,   please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word   'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of  the  message > No virus found in this incoming message. >  Checked by AVG -  www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database:  270.14.113/2573 - Release  Date: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You said it much better than I did! I co-administer the Mosley/Moseley DNA project at FamilytreeDNA.com and we have tried to get pedigrees of all, a few have slipped through as we have not yet blocked entry into the project without one. We e-mail all our members with a chart of pedigrees combined with the DNA markers. It makes it so much easier to see what is going on. We have 60+ members, so it is not nearly as big as the Brown group.   Carolyn Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, nbacton@aol.com <nbacton@aol.com> wrote: From: nbacton@aol.com <nbacton@aol.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:25 PM In a message dated 12/19/2009 1:34:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  DianaGM@dgmweb.net writes: I run  five DNA surname projects at FTDNA, and I encourage all my members  to upload to Ysearch.  I have also subsidized a couple of dozen tests,  always with the stipulation that a requirement for the subsidy is uploading  to Ysearch.  So, yes, I think Ysearch is now, and will continue to be,  the best "general" database to use for uploading and searching. Do  be careful about uploading to Ancestry.  My "impression" is that if you do, you're basically giving them the data to use as they see fit, including  keeping it and republishing it.  [Does someone know for  certain?]  At Ysearch, you can remove your data any time you  want.  You can also remove yourself from the FTDNA database any time  you want, even if you were tested there, because they make no claim of  ownership of your data (or your sample).  Wherever you decide to  get tested or to upload your data, make certain you are aware of whether  you are surrendering legal title it, assuming you care one way or  another. Test results without a lineage are, as you know, virtually  useless, so I am very persistent in my projects to get good lineages  associated with the results.  Not all project admins make such an  effort, however, so it's a matter of luck how useful results are from  different projects.  I wish those admins who aren't doing it would  either take on a co-admin or two -- or give up the project and let someone  else run it.  But if they don't, the alternative is for us to  upload to Ysearch, including a GEDCOM of the patrilineal line.   Wow!  It would be such a useful database if everyone did  it! Diana > -----Original Message----- > From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown > Sent: Saturday,  December 19, 2009 11:30 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re:  [BROWN] All DNA testees > > My husband, Allen, tested with  FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 > matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I  have also uploaded > his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no  matches > there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more  > labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be >  able to compare the results. >  > FamilyTreeDNA has over 300  Browns in their Brown project. I > haven't been able to find out how  many Ancestry.com has and > have no idea about the other labs. Results  are no good if you > can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a  site called > www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload  their > results and search by matching results or by name. You don't  > have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like  > to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has >  tested to upload their results to either that site or > Ancestry.com  (though I think you have to be a subscriber > there, I am) or let us  know if there is another site that can > be viewed for comparison with  their DNA. >  > For those who have tested it is then  obvious if a line is > yours or not. What do you all think? >  > Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the  list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message I am not familiar with Ysearch.  Could you give me the address of this  group?  I agree with you about Ancestry.  It is written in very small  print but everything you submit to them is theirs to do with as they want.   You have given up all rights to your work.  I have 4 DNA projects with FamilyTree and I have been continuously please  with their help and their support of privacy.  One research group has  placed them at the top of the list for DNA companies to  use. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here are my grandfathers parents and grandfathers; I have started with Samuel for I have proven to him; the rest Listed still unproven. Hope some one sees a connection here. My grandfather being William Henry (Brown) Bryant. Ellie Generation No. 4 4. SAMUEL4 BROWN (ANDREW3, JOHAN MICHEAL2 BRAUN, ABRAHAM1 BRAUM) was born 1797 in Wythe, Virginia, and died 1850 in Delaware, Indiana. He married PHOEBE SMITH 09 Aug 1821 in Clinton, Ohio. She was born 1800 in Harrison, Ohio, and died Abt. 1870 in Delaware, Indiana. Children of SAMUEL BROWN and PHOEBE SMITH are: 5. i. WILLIAM H5 BROWN, b. Bet. 1822 - 1829, Clinton, Ohio; d. 20 Apr 1889, Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. ii. REBECCA BROWN, b. 1826, Clinton, Ohio. iii. CATHERINE BROWN, b. 1828, Vernon, Clinton, Ohio. iv. MARGERY BROWN, b. 1830, Ohio. v. PHOEBE KATHERINE BROWN, b. 07 Mar 1831, Cleveland, Cuyahoga. Ohio. vi. MARGARET BROWN, b. 13 May 1834, Ohio. vii. MARY JANE BROWN, b. 08 Mar 1836, Ohio. viii. RHODA BROWN, b. Abt. 1839, cooper, Seneca, Ohio. ix. MARY BROWN, b. Abt. 1841, Delaware, Indiana. Generation No. 5 5. WILLIAM H5 BROWN (SAMUEL4, ANDREW3, JOHAN MICHEAL2 BRAUN, ABRAHAM1 BRAUM) was born Abt. 1822 in Clinton, Ohio, and died 20 Apr 1889 in Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. 6. ELLEN JOHNSON unmarried, daughter of JACOB JOHNSON and NANCY SWAIN. She was born 1835 in Stark, Ohio, and died 1901 in Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. He married (1) SARAH ANN CATHERINE LEE 20 Mar 1848. She was born 10 May 1828 in NC, and died Bef. 1866 in Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. He married (2) HANNAH MCCREERY 20 Mar 1866 in Washington Twp; Decatur Co, IN. She was born Abt. 1832. Child of WILLIAM BROWN and ELLEN JOHNSON is: 6. i. WILLIAM HENRY (BROWN)6 BRYANT, b. 03 Nov 1868, Indiana; d. 05 Feb 1934, Bakersfield, Kern County, California. Half siblings to grandfather; with wife # 1 Children of WILLIAM BROWN and SARAH LEE are: ii. SAMUEL P6 BROWN, b. Nov 1852. (Researched and has no children at all) iii. EMELINE BROWN, b. 1855. iv. MARY J BROWN, b. 1855. v. NATHAN BROWN, b. Abt. 1862. (Working on this line now for living cousin) Half siblings to grandfather; with wife # 2 Children of WILLIAM BROWN and HANNAH MCCREERY are: vi. SARAH E6 BROWN, b. Abt. 1868, Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. vii. CORA ETTA BROWN, b. Abt. 1870, Washington Twp; Decatur Co; IN. -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of barbara morgan Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:19 AM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank >From Barbara Morgan in KY ----------- Does any one match up with any I have named here???? Here is what I have in brief: _____________________________________ David Brown b. 1695 Son - John b. 1721 - Henrico Co VA Son - John b. 1747 - VA Son - John G. b. 1771 - VA m. Betsy Gibbs Son - Francis G. b 1804 - VA m. Frances Jane Goodwin b. 1817 My Grandfather is Joseph Thomas Brown b. 1890 Clark Co. KY ___________________________________________________________ Descendants of David Brown 1 David Brown 1695 - ........2 John Brown 1721 - 1780 .............. +Elizabeth Brown 1725 - ...................3 John Brown 1747 - 1781 ......................... +Sarah Gibbs 1747 - ..........................4 John G. Brown 1771 - 1838 ...................................+Elizabeth Betsy Gibbs 1777 - 1823 ................................5 Francis G. Brown 1804 - 1858 ......................................+Frances Jane Goodwin 1817 - 1879 .....................................6 Amanda Brown ..........................................+Benjamin Holladay .........................................7 Milton Woolfolk Holladay ................................................................... +Mattie Jane Black ........................................................................ 8 Amanda Lee Holladay ............................................................................ ......9 Virginia Holladay ............................................................................ ............+Unknown Newman ............................................................................ ............10 Virginia Holladay Newman ..................................6 Joseph J. Brown ..................................6 James T. Brown 1850 - ..................................6 Henry Russell Brown1852 - 1904 .......................................+Mary Ellen Proctor 1861 - 1947 ...............................7 Joseph Thomas Brown 1890 - 1953 ................................................................... +Frances Emerald Judy 1893 - 1966 ........................................................................ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: 12/19/09 02:33:00

Don't feel bad about being in the "unassigned" group. About 40% of all test subjects have no match "out of the gate." The best way to speed up getting a match is to examine your paper pedigree and start tracking down "paper cousins" to test. I would even begin with a first or second cousin. One basic question everyone needs to answer is whether they have an NPE in their lineage. http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/General/NPE_Resolutions.shtml I don't want to alarm you, but about 10% of people tested turn out NOT to match other descendants of their paper ancestor (i.e., they have an NPE), so it's not an idle question to answer. With regard to mtDNA, if you test just your HVR1 and HVR2 (HyperVariable Regions 1 and 2), you will likely be placing yourself in a rather large group of women. As you say, it only broadly points to your deep roots. However, if you test your mtDNA FGS (Full Genetic Sequence), you can greatly narrow down the possibilities. Not enough people have as yet tested their FGS for there to be a useful database to search, but eventually there will be. I've tested my FGS, and the only person I match, so far, is a first cousin: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/mtDNA-T-haplotree-DGM.shtml Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Barbara Brown Allen > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:27 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > > Hello BROWNs: This DNA business has been one of the most > frustrating experiences of my life! My brother Blake Brown > volunteered his DNA for me, and so far we have not connected > with ANYONE, and in fact, my brother is in the "unique group" > because of it. He is haplogroup R1a; kit number is 41860. I > would LOVE to meet a BROWN with an R1a halplogroup designation. > > Also, don't forget The Brown Society at brownsociety.org > where you can find my brother's test results. > > And then, of course, I just had to do my mtDNA test, didn't > I? Well, those results show only migration patterns, ethnic > & geographic origins. I can't imagine ever connecting with a > female relative based on the mtDNA results. > > Good luck, everyone! > Barbara > >

It does sound like your William has an "NPE," a "non-paternal event" (i.e., a hidden adoption or illicit paternity) in his patrilineal line. But, as long as you aren't crushed by finding out you're not a BROWN, you're actually lucky. It's going to be much easier to discover your ancestry as a MAXWELL or a RAMSEY than it would be as a BROWN. Obviously, either the MAXWELL or the RAMSEY has an NPE in his lineage, too. You may be interested in the resolution of some NPE's from my projects: http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/General/NPE_Resolutions.shtml And who knows? In the end, all the MAXWELLs and RAMSEYs could turn out to be BROWNs! Good hunting, Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of FBrown726@aol.com > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:07 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > > FamilyTreeDNA is the place where my study was done in the Brown > DNA project. I did a 37 marker test and had several 25/25 and > 37/37 matches. The higher the markers tested the more Ramsey > and Maxwell people there are. I cannot locate my information to > access the site right now so cannot be more specific. Perhaps my > 2nd. great grandfather was a traveling man, who knows? His > name was William Brown which is of little help pinning him down. > Might as well be John Jones. > > Frank Brown > Kansas City >

I run five DNA surname projects at FTDNA, and I encourage all my members to upload to Ysearch. I have also subsidized a couple of dozen tests, always with the stipulation that a requirement for the subsidy is uploading to Ysearch. So, yes, I think Ysearch is now, and will continue to be, the best "general" database to use for uploading and searching. Do be careful about uploading to Ancestry. My "impression" is that if you do, you're basically giving them the data to use as they see fit, including keeping it and republishing it. [Does someone know for certain?] At Ysearch, you can remove your data any time you want. You can also remove yourself from the FTDNA database any time you want, even if you were tested there, because they make no claim of ownership of your data (or your sample). Wherever you decide to get tested or to upload your data, make certain you are aware of whether you are surrendering legal title it, assuming you care one way or another. Test results without a lineage are, as you know, virtually useless, so I am very persistent in my projects to get good lineages associated with the results. Not all project admins make such an effort, however, so it's a matter of luck how useful results are from different projects. I wish those admins who aren't doing it would either take on a co-admin or two -- or give up the project and let someone else run it. But if they don't, the alternative is for us to upload to Ysearch, including a GEDCOM of the patrilineal line. Wow! It would be such a useful database if everyone did it! Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:30 AM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > > My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 > matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded > his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches > there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more > labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be > able to compare the results. >   > FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I > haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and > have no idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you > can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called > www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload their > results and search by matching results or by name. You don't > have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like > to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has > tested to upload their results to either that site or > Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber > there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can > be viewed for comparison with their DNA. >   > For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is > yours or not. What do you all think? >   > Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown >

I have an Elijah Barton Brown born in 1823 but in Saratoga County, NY. He could possibly be the son of one of Wright S. Brown's children...I know he had a Joseph but can not tell you anything more about him. My Browns lived in Stillwater and Saratoga until 1808 when they migrated to Milo, Yates Co. NY. In a message dated 12/19/2009 4:16:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, kbrown3869@sbcglobal.net writes: I have been looking for elijah barton brown for some time. he was born in 1823 in cayuga county N.Y. His parents were joseph and clarrissa brown. his family came to Mi. some time between 1823 & 1840. recors show that he was married in 1848 to lucinda overacker in wayne county Mi. they lived in ionia county in 1850 per census records. the census shows a john a brown a few lines away i don't know if this a relation or not is there someone out there that knows about these familys? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Brown Genealogical Society does coordinate the Brown DNA study with FamilyTreeDNA. Jim Brown is the name of the coordinator and he is very good. Frank Brown Kansas City I believe that the Parke Society coordinates all the Park/e/s DNA results. Maybe the Brown Society would do something similar? Beverly Park Peavler On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Barbara Brown Allen wrote: > Hello BROWNs: This DNA business has been one of the most > frustrating experiences of my life! My brother Blake Brown > volunteered his DNA for me, and so far we have not connected with > ANYONE, and in fact, my brother is in the "unique group" because of > it. He is haplogroup R1a; kit number is 41860. I would LOVE to meet > a BROWN with an R1a halplogroup designation. > > Also, don't forget The Brown Society at brownsociety.org where you > can find my brother's test results. > > And then, of course, I just had to do my mtDNA test, didn't I? > Well, those results show only migration patterns, ethnic & > geographic origins. I can't imagine ever connecting with a female > relative based on the mtDNA results. > > Good luck, everyone! > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Brown <cpink@flash.net> >> Sent: Dec 19, 2009 11:30 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees >> >> My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches >> there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to >> the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from >> other Browns there. Now that more labs are starting to do the >> testing we need a place to be able to compare the results. >> >> FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I haven't >> been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no idea >> about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare >> them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org >> where anyone from any lab can upload their results and search by >> matching results or by name. You don't have to have tested at their >> lab and it is free. I would like to see if we can either get >> everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to >> either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a >> subscriber there, I am) or let us know if there is another site >> that can be viewed for comparison with their DNA. >> >> For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is yours or >> not. What do you all think? >> >> Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown >> >> --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM >> >> >> Infor@familytree.com for us. >> Ellie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Carolyn Brown >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> >> What lab did you test with and how close are the matches? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM >> >> >> Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has >> crossed my >> >> mind too. Another thought is >> that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John >> Ebenzer >> Brown told my grandfather >> that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin >> Ireland. So I >> have also ticked the name Flanagan >> as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with >> the DNA >> of my brother. >> >> Carol >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <FBrown726@aol.com> >> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus >> JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >> >> >>> I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the >>> names of >>> Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? >>> >>> Frank Brown >>> Kansas City >>> >>> >>> >>> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No >>> matches yet >>> ....still waiting. >>> >>> Carol Brown Parker >>> >>> Me too; and still no matches. >>> Ellie >>> Warsaw MO. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >>> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>> Behalf Of Carol Brown Parker >>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM >>> To: brown@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus >>> JohnEbenezer >>> Brown born Nov 1822 >>> >>> Have used it for years. I would not be where I am today without it >>> either. >>> An example flew to Toronto >>> to visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and >>> hardly got >>> a >>> thing. Upgraded to a newer >>> version of FTM put in the same data could not believe what my FTM >>> found >>> in >>> Ancestry for me. So >>> many documents that lead to other ancestors. It is well worth the >>> yearly >>> fee >>> >>> and I have just received >>> the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. >>> >>> My only brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born >>> Nov 1822 >>> also in census showing as John C. Brown >>> and John E Brown. The first name is the real one as I found the >>> decendant >>> with his John's family bible and I took pictures of the pages. It >>> dates >>> back >>> >>> to 1855 and then I made my own bible from the pages. My >>> ggrandfather said >>> he >>> >>> was from Dublin >>> Ireland and have found no proof of that but census says NY and >>> sometimes >>> Vermont. >>> >>> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No >>> matches yet >>> ....still waiting. >>> >>> Carol Brown Parker >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: >>> 12/18/09 >>> 01:35:00 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes >> >>> in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: >> 12/19/09 >> 02:33:00

Hello BROWNs: This DNA business has been one of the most frustrating experiences of my life! My brother Blake Brown volunteered his DNA for me, and so far we have not connected with ANYONE, and in fact, my brother is in the "unique group" because of it. He is haplogroup R1a; kit number is 41860. I would LOVE to meet a BROWN with an R1a halplogroup designation. Also, don't forget The Brown Society at brownsociety.org where you can find my brother's test results. And then, of course, I just had to do my mtDNA test, didn't I? Well, those results show only migration patterns, ethnic & geographic origins. I can't imagine ever connecting with a female relative based on the mtDNA results. Good luck, everyone! Barbara -----Original Message----- >From: Carolyn Brown <cpink@flash.net> >Sent: Dec 19, 2009 11:30 AM >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees > >My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be able to compare the results. >  >FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload their results and search by matching results or by name. You don't have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can be viewed for comparison with their DNA. >  >For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is yours or not. What do you all think? >  >Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown > >--- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > >From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM > > >Infor@familytree.com for us. >Ellie > >-----Original Message----- >From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Carolyn Brown >Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank > >What lab did you test with and how close are the matches? >  >Carolyn Brown > >--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: > > >From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> >Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank >To: brown@rootsweb.com >Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM > > >Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has crossed my > >mind too. Another thought is >that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer >Brown told my grandfather >that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin Ireland. So I >have also ticked the name Flanagan >as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA >of my brother. > >Carol > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <FBrown726@aol.com> >To: <brown@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM >Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus >JohnEbenezerBrown bor... > > >>I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the names of >> Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? >> >> Frank Brown >> Kansas City >> >> >> >> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No matches  yet >> ....still waiting. >> >> Carol Brown Parker >> >> Me too; and still no  matches. >> Ellie >> Warsaw MO. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of  Carol Brown Parker >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM >> To:  brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome!  Plus >> JohnEbenezer >> Brown born Nov 1822 >> >> Have used it for years. I would  not be where I am today without it >> either. >> An example flew to Toronto >> to  visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and hardly got >> a >> thing. Upgraded to a newer >> version of FTM put in the same data could not  believe what my FTM found >> in >> Ancestry for me. So >> many documents that lead  to other ancestors. It is well worth the yearly >> fee >> >> and I have just  received >> the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. >> >> My only  brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 >> also in  census showing as John C. Brown >> and John E Brown. The first name is the real  one as I found the decendant >> with his John's family bible and I took  pictures of the pages. It dates >> back >> >> to 1855 and then I made my own bible  from the pages. My ggrandfather said >> he >> >> was from Dublin >> Ireland and  have found no proof of that but census says NY and sometimes >> Vermont. >> >> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No  matches yet >> ....still waiting. >> >> Carol Brown  Parker >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the  message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG -  www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release  Date: >> 12/18/09 >> 01:35:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >> in the subject and >> the body of  the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: 12/19/09 >02:33:00 > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ******************************* Always a Detroit Tiger!

>From Barbara Morgan in KY ----------- Does any one match up with any I have named here???? Here is what I have in brief: _____________________________________ David Brown b. 1695 Son - John b. 1721 - Henrico Co VA Son - John b. 1747 - VA Son - John G. b. 1771 - VA m. Betsy Gibbs Son - Francis G. b 1804 - VA m. Frances Jane Goodwin b. 1817 My Grandfather is Joseph Thomas Brown b. 1890 Clark Co. KY ___________________________________________________________ Descendants of David Brown 1 David Brown 1695 - ........2 John Brown 1721 - 1780 .............. +Elizabeth Brown 1725 - ...................3 John Brown 1747 - 1781 ......................... +Sarah Gibbs 1747 - ..........................4 John G. Brown 1771 - 1838 ...................................+Elizabeth Betsy Gibbs 1777 - 1823 ................................5 Francis G. Brown 1804 - 1858 ......................................+Frances Jane Goodwin 1817 - 1879 .....................................6 Amanda Brown ..........................................+Benjamin Holladay .........................................7 Milton Woolfolk Holladay ................................................................... +Mattie Jane Black ........................................................................ 8 Amanda Lee Holladay ............................................................................ ......9 Virginia Holladay ............................................................................ ............+Unknown Newman ............................................................................ ............10 Virginia Holladay Newman ..................................6 Joseph J. Brown ..................................6 James T. Brown 1850 - ..................................6 Henry Russell Brown1852 - 1904 .......................................+Mary Ellen Proctor 1861 - 1947 ...............................7 Joseph Thomas Brown 1890 - 1953 ................................................................... +Frances Emerald Judy 1893 - 1966 ........................................................................

FamilyTreeDNA is the place where my study was done in the Brown DNA project. I did a 37 marker test and had several 25/25 and 37/37 matches. The higher the markers tested the more Ramsey and Maxwell people there are. I cannot locate my information to access the site right now so cannot be more specific. Perhaps my 2nd. great grandfather was a traveling man, who knows? His name was William Brown which is of little help pinning him down. Might as well be John Jones. Frank Brown Kansas City My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be able to compare the results. FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload their results and search by matching results or by name. You don't have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can be viewed for comparison with their DNA. For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is yours or not. What do you all think? Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM Infor@familytree.com for us. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank What lab did you test with and how close are the matches? Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has crossed my mind too. Another thought is that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer Brown told my grandfather that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin Ireland. So I have also ticked the name Flanagan as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA of my brother. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <FBrown726@aol.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the names of > Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? > > Frank Brown > Kansas City > > > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No matches yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown Parker > > Me too; and still no matches. > Ellie > Warsaw MO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Carol Brown Parker > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM > To: brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus > JohnEbenezer > Brown born Nov 1822 > > Have used it for years. I would not be where I am today without it > either. > An example flew to Toronto > to visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and hardly got > a > thing. Upgraded to a newer > version of FTM put in the same data could not believe what my FTM found > in > Ancestry for me. So > many documents that lead to other ancestors. It is well worth the yearly > fee > > and I have just received > the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. > > My only brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 > also in census showing as John C. Brown > and John E Brown. The first name is the real one as I found the decendant > with his John's family bible and I took pictures of the pages. It dates > back > > to 1855 and then I made my own bible from the pages. My ggrandfather said > he > > was from Dublin > Ireland and have found no proof of that but census says NY and sometimes > Vermont. > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No matches yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown Parker > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date:

I believe that the Parke Society coordinates all the Park/e/s DNA results. Maybe the Brown Society would do something similar? Beverly Park Peavler On Dec 19, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Barbara Brown Allen wrote: > Hello BROWNs: This DNA business has been one of the most > frustrating experiences of my life! My brother Blake Brown > volunteered his DNA for me, and so far we have not connected with > ANYONE, and in fact, my brother is in the "unique group" because of > it. He is haplogroup R1a; kit number is 41860. I would LOVE to meet > a BROWN with an R1a halplogroup designation. > > Also, don't forget The Brown Society at brownsociety.org where you > can find my brother's test results. > > And then, of course, I just had to do my mtDNA test, didn't I? > Well, those results show only migration patterns, ethnic & > geographic origins. I can't imagine ever connecting with a female > relative based on the mtDNA results. > > Good luck, everyone! > Barbara > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Carolyn Brown <cpink@flash.net> >> Sent: Dec 19, 2009 11:30 AM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] All DNA testees >> >> My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches >> there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to >> the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from >> other Browns there. Now that more labs are starting to do the >> testing we need a place to be able to compare the results. >> >> FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I haven't >> been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no idea >> about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare >> them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org >> where anyone from any lab can upload their results and search by >> matching results or by name. You don't have to have tested at their >> lab and it is free. I would like to see if we can either get >> everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to >> either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a >> subscriber there, I am) or let us know if there is another site >> that can be viewed for comparison with their DNA. >> >> For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is yours or >> not. What do you all think? >> >> Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown >> >> --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM >> >> >> Infor@familytree.com for us. >> Ellie >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Carolyn Brown >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> >> What lab did you test with and how close are the matches? >> >> Carolyn Brown >> >> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie >> and Frank >> To: brown@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM >> >> >> Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has >> crossed my >> >> mind too. Another thought is >> that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John >> Ebenzer >> Brown told my grandfather >> that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin >> Ireland. So I >> have also ticked the name Flanagan >> as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with >> the DNA >> of my brother. >> >> Carol >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <FBrown726@aol.com> >> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus >> JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >> >> >>> I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the >>> names of >>> Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? >>> >>> Frank Brown >>> Kansas City >>> >>> >>> >>> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No >>> matches yet >>> ....still waiting. >>> >>> Carol Brown Parker >>> >>> Me too; and still no matches. >>> Ellie >>> Warsaw MO. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown- >>> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>> Behalf Of Carol Brown Parker >>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM >>> To: brown@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus >>> JohnEbenezer >>> Brown born Nov 1822 >>> >>> Have used it for years. I would not be where I am today without it >>> either. >>> An example flew to Toronto >>> to visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and >>> hardly got >>> a >>> thing. Upgraded to a newer >>> version of FTM put in the same data could not believe what my FTM >>> found >>> in >>> Ancestry for me. So >>> many documents that lead to other ancestors. It is well worth the >>> yearly >>> fee >>> >>> and I have just received >>> the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. >>> >>> My only brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born >>> Nov 1822 >>> also in census showing as John C. Brown >>> and John E Brown. The first name is the real one as I found the >>> decendant >>> with his John's family bible and I took pictures of the pages. It >>> dates >>> back >>> >>> to 1855 and then I made my own bible from the pages. My >>> ggrandfather said >>> he >>> >>> was from Dublin >>> Ireland and have found no proof of that but census says NY and >>> sometimes >>> Vermont. >>> >>> I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No >>> matches yet >>> ....still waiting. >>> >>> Carol Brown Parker >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes >>> in >>> the subject and the body of the message >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release Date: >>> 12/18/09 >>> 01:35:00 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes >> >>> in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: >> 12/19/09 >> 02:33:00 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ******************************* > Always a Detroit Tiger! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Infor@familytree.com for us. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank What lab did you test with and how close are the matches?   Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has crossed my mind too. Another thought is that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer Brown told my grandfather that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin Ireland. So I have also ticked the name Flanagan as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA of my brother. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <FBrown726@aol.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the names of > Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? > > Frank Brown > Kansas City > > > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No matches  yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown Parker > > Me too; and still no  matches. > Ellie > Warsaw MO. > > -----Original Message----- > From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of  Carol Brown Parker > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM > To:  brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome!  Plus > JohnEbenezer > Brown born Nov 1822 > > Have used it for years. I would  not be where I am today without it > either. > An example flew to Toronto > to  visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and hardly got > a > thing. Upgraded to a newer > version of FTM put in the same data could not  believe what my FTM found > in > Ancestry for me. So > many documents that lead  to other ancestors. It is well worth the yearly > fee > > and I have just  received > the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. > > My only  brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 > also in  census showing as John C. Brown > and John E Brown. The first name is the real  one as I found the decendant > with his John's family bible and I took  pictures of the pages. It dates > back > > to 1855 and then I made my own bible  from the pages. My ggrandfather said > he > > was from Dublin > Ireland and  have found no proof of that but census says NY and sometimes > Vermont. > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No  matches yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown  Parker > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the  message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG -  www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release  Date: > 12/18/09 > 01:35:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and > the body of  the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.717 / Virus Database: 270.14.114/2575 - Release Date: 12/19/09 02:33:00

My husband, Allen, tested with FamilyTreeDNA.com and has 4 matches there (one 25/25, and 3 67/67) I have also uploaded his results to the Ancestry.com DNA database, no matches there and no input from other Browns there. Now that more labs are starting to do the testing we need a place to be able to compare the results.   FamilyTreeDNA has over 300 Browns in their Brown project. I haven't been able to find out how many Ancestry.com has and have no idea about the other labs. Results are no good if you can't compare them. FamilyTreeDNA.com also has a site called www.YSearch.org where anyone from any lab can upload their results and search by matching results or by name. You don't have to have tested at their lab and it is free. I would like to see if we can either get everyone on the list who has tested to upload their results to either that site or Ancestry.com (though I think you have to be a subscriber there, I am) or let us know if there is another site that can be viewed for comparison with their DNA.   For those who have tested it is then obvious if a line is yours or not. What do you all think?   Carolyn and Allen Ethridge Brown --- On Sat, 12/19/09, Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> wrote: From: Eleanor Prieskorn <dalell@embarqmail.com> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 10:06 AM Infor@familytree.com for us. Ellie -----Original Message----- From: brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Brown Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 PM To: brown@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank What lab did you test with and how close are the matches?   Carolyn Brown --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote: From: Carol Brown Parker <parkerar@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... REPLY to Ellie and Frank To: brown@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:22 PM Sorry to hear you are in the same boat too. Well that thought has crossed my mind too. Another thought is that our surname was not Brown. My ggrandfather oldest son of John Ebenzer Brown told my grandfather that our surname was really Flanagan and we are from Dublin Ireland. So I have also ticked the name Flanagan as well as Brown plus asked for to have any name that matches with the DNA of my brother. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <FBrown726@aol.com> To: <brown@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome! Plus JohnEbenezerBrown bor... >I did the DNA test and my best matches are with folks with the names of > Maxwell and Ramsey. Did the bull jump the fence? > > Frank Brown > Kansas City > > > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No matches  yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown Parker > > Me too; and still no  matches. > Ellie > Warsaw MO. > > -----Original Message----- > From:  brown-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:brown-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of  Carol Brown Parker > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:51 PM > To:  brown@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BROWN] Ancestry.com I use it and it awesome!  Plus > JohnEbenezer > Brown born Nov 1822 > > Have used it for years. I would  not be where I am today without it > either. > An example flew to Toronto > to  visit my brother spent the day at the archives with him and hardly got > a > thing. Upgraded to a newer > version of FTM put in the same data could not  believe what my FTM found > in > Ancestry for me. So > many documents that lead  to other ancestors. It is well worth the yearly > fee > > and I have just  received > the FTM 2010 which is great. Very cost effective. > > My only  brick wall is my gggrandfather John Ebenezer Brown born Nov 1822 > also in  census showing as John C. Brown > and John E Brown. The first name is the real  one as I found the decendant > with his John's family bible and I took  pictures of the pages. It dates > back > > to 1855 and then I made my own bible  from the pages. My ggrandfather said > he > > was from Dublin > Ireland and  have found no proof of that but census says NY and sometimes > Vermont. > > I had my brother do the Brown DNA when it first came out. No  matches yet > ....still waiting. > > Carol Brown  Parker > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list,  please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the  message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG -  www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.113/2573 - Release  Date: > 12/18/09 > 01:35:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and > the body of  the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BROWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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I have been looking for elijah barton brown for some time. he was born in 1823 in cayuga county N.Y. His parents were joseph and clarrissa brown. his family came to Mi. some time between 1823 & 1840. recors show that he was married in 1848 to lucinda overacker in wayne county Mi. they lived in ionia county in 1850 per census records. the census shows a john a brown a few lines away i don't know if this a relation or not is there someone out there that knows about these familys?

Message: 3 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:54:04 -0800 (PST) From: JIM JR BROWN <jimbrown848@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [BROWN] Looking for Edward Brown Ky,TN, NC, or Va To: brown@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <842082.89601.qm@web180711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Greg, I have?2 Edward Browns ? b. 1762 in VA? d. 10Feb 1864 in Elbert Co, GA? Wife Lucy\ ??b. 1667 in Isle of Wright, VA Surry Co,d.1711? ?Don't think either of these are yours.? Don't give up the ship!May God Bless you and yours! Jim >Hi Jim... > Thanks for answering. They may not be the one I am researching, but the tendency of using the same names each following generation, they could be. My Edward named his boys: Edward (nickname Waddy), James (Jim), Hendrick (Henry), and Marcellus. Of the 4 boys, only James and Hendrick had children, James had 6 boys and Hendrick had 2 girls, Waddy and Marcellus never married. I have been searching for over 10 years. I am stalled with early Edward and certainly nothing for Avery and Mary. greg

Looking for info of parents/siblings of William Nelson Brown born 30 Jun 1927 in PA shown on Medina Co, OH 1850 census / Clayton, IA 1860 Census Stuben Co. IN 1870 census Homesteaded in Grant Township,Buffalo Co. NE 1880 census lived in a dugout, sod house and finally built a home on same land in city of Stanley, NE on the wood river. Married Sarah Hart, dau of George Hart and Phoebe Wade Children: William Alva Rufus Cyrena Jane Clara May Libbie Charles Leslie (my ggrandfather) William Nelson was killed by a rogue Bull in a pasture in Stanley, Buffalo Co., NE Oct 16, 1896 at the age of 69 He and Sarah are buried in Old Stanley Cemetery. The land was part of the Brown Property which they gave to the city to build the cemetery. This is one of my brickwalls Any help would be appreciated. Jetta Brown Stapp In OK