George Washington Brown b. March 5,1835 d. 1916 m. Hulda Parale Narramore January 1, 1855 Hulda Parale Narramore b. March 23, 1834 d. March 19, 1890 Children: (1) ? (2) Elizabeth Jane Brown b. June 22, 1857 d. June 22, 1893 m. Asa F. Hinds (3) Mary Emmaline or Emily Brown b. April 22, 1859 d. March 6, 1940 m. William Gustavas Greer January 1, 1891 (4) Letitia Surrepta Brown b. March 25, 1861 d.? m. William Owen Kearley (5) James Filding Brown b. March 22, 1863 d.? m. Mollie Anderson (6) Flora Independence (She changed it to Isabell) Brown b. July 4, 1865 d.? m. Thomas Sherman Flynn (7) Martha Ann Brown b. October 31, 1867 d.? m. Joseph Hamill (8) Laura Josephine Brown b. January 25, 1870 d. May 25, 1914 m. A. Kent Smith (9) John Adams b. March 21, 1872 d.? m. Belle Miller Rohrbaugh (widow with a child Ernest) d.? Married second time to Viola S. (10) Marquis La Fayette Brown b. March 16, 1874 d.? m. Ida Hinds (11) Robert Selvidge Brown b. August 14, 1876 d.? m Ida Long I belive all children were born in Glen Alice, Roane County. All information was from the family bible. Thanks Rebecca

I heartily agree--but PLEASE give approximate dates ! There are MANY Browns, with the SAME given names , so locations are important too whether it is where they were born , lived., or died. PepperCRG@aol.com wrote: > I would like to commend those of you who share your data. As a certified > genealogical researcher for over 30 years, I have experienced many such > stories of those who take, and do not give, but FAR MORE who will give-up > YEARS of info for the asking. I would also like to remind THOSE who DO NOT > share, that is the very reason WHY we can't connect all the BROWNS!!! :-) I > challenge everyone to POST one of your most significant FINDS and see if we > can BRIDGE some gaps! I will be making my own contribution under separate > post entitled BROWN CRESTS. > > ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== > contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/

James E Brown born about 1825 in Vermont, married to Lydia DeGroff, DeGraff. They lived in Michigan City, LaPorte County, Indiana for the 1860 census. Says Lydia was born in NY. If anyone knows anything about them please write to me. Supposedly James died in Ashland, Boyd County, KY around 1880. Sharon

Hello Hugh Brown, Sr., b 1716 Scotland m Mary Buie Children: Neill Brown b Feb. 15 1748 Bladen Co. (now Cumberland Co.) NC John Brown b Dec. 28 1751 Bladen Co. (now Cumberland Co. ) NC Catherine Brown b Feb 20 1753 William Brown b Nov. 24 1755 Mary Brown b Aug. 15 1758 Hugh Brown b Feb. 8 1758 Ann Brown b Jan 1765 Duncan Brown b DEC 3 1775 Would like to exchange information Robin

On the topic of taking but not giving back: I am new to this list - in fact, I've just started researching my ancestors. After reading so many negative e-mails on this particular topic, I am very hesitant to submit further questions. As I stated, I've just begun my research so therefore I really don't have a lot to pass along to anyone. I would LOVE to help someone else out, I just haven't made any connections yet. Please don't get me wrong, I think this list is wonderful, and I have learned a great deal from everyone on this list - especially to those who have responded to me so quickly and willingly. Through each one of you, I've learned about which sites to search, problems that you've encountered & suggestions to correct them, ect... and my favorite - your success stories. I can only hope that some day, I can also be one of those success stories. Please don't be so hard on the "lurkers", it just might be that they are not intentionally being ungrateful - but that they just do not have any info to offer in return. AND, that they "lurk" in order to learn from the wise. Deb from IL

All i know about my Browns is not to much.His name was George Washington Brown and that he was married to a Mary downing probably around the 1840's.The only child that i know of is Mahala Brown and she was b.1843 some place in Tenn,Mahala married someone by the name of Cantrell Bruton in 1860's.Please help me if you can sorry i don't know more than this.I am trying to find out more about Mahala's parents and where they came from.My e-mail is kds0354@aol.com

Hi List, I'm all for a Roll Call. But please, when you list your Brown's, put the STATE in the Subject Line. Also the county of the state would help in the body of your post. Thanks, Jean My Brown's, Alexander, Catawba & Gaston County, North Carolina John Jefferson Brown b. abt. 1869 in Alexander Co., NC, died 4/9/1942 in Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC. Father, Manuel Brown, Alexander Co., NC. Mother, Milton Barrs, Alexander Co., NC Married in Catawba Co., NC abt. 1901 to Lockie Leola Yount b. 2/14/1884/86 in Catawba Co., NC, d. 8/30/1962 Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC. Children; 1. George B. Brown b. 6/26/1901 Catawba Co., NC, d. 11/15/1926 Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC (single) 2. Fred Brown b.?,Catawba Co., NC, d. abt.1970's , Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC. Married, Lular Brown. 3. Charles R. Brown b. 1920, Newton, Catawba Co., NC, d. 7/14/1999 Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC. Married, 1. Margaret "Peggy" Brown, 2. ? 4. John Bangle Brown b. 9/2/1924 Maiden, Catawba Co., NC, d. 4/17/1989 Gastonia, Gaston Co., NC. Married, 1. Mildred Haas in 1943, 2. Closie Brown in abt. 1961. My father.

I am researching Browns from NC and GA. John Soloman Brown, Sr. (b. abt. 1797 in NC) married Temperance ??? children: John Soloman Brown, Jr. (b. abt. 1826 in NC) m. Sarah Twiggs (b. abt. 1823 in NC) in Union Co., GA in 1842. James Brown (b. abt. 1831 in NC) m. Elizabeth, lived in Fannin Co., GA had 9 children. Margaret Brown (b. abt. 1833 in NC) Children of John Soloman Brown, Jr. and Sarah Twiggs: Susannah Brown (b. abt. 1844 in Union Co., GA) Burton Brown (b. abt. 1848 in Union Co., GA) Alford Corn Brown (b. March 16, 1850 in Union Co., GA) married Nancy Delilah Josephine Haygood (b. June 23, 1845 in Union Co. GA) on July 25, 1872 in Union Co., GA. Children of Alford Brown and Nancy Haygood: Sarah Ann Brown (b. Oct. 1878, Fannin Co., GA) James Allen Brown (b. September 12, 1881, Fannin Co., GA) David Asbury Brown (b. July 22, 1884, Fannin Co., GA) William Andrew Brown (b. March 1, 1889, Fannin Co., GA) Alford, Nancy and family moved to Paulding Co. by 1900 and on to Cobb County by 1904. They all settled in Marietta. That's where my mom was born and so was I. Looking forward to seeing who all everyone is researching!!!! Edie Brand Katy, Texas

Our BROWN line is as follows: MARY ESTHER BROWN (b. 1843/Jacksonville, IL; d. 1916/Rocheport, MO-buried in Jacksonville, IL) in 1864 in Jacksonville, IL, married HENRY CLINTON WISWALL (b. 1843 / Jacksonville, IL; d. 1918/Rocheport, MO-buried in Jacksonville, IL). MARY ESTHER BROWN (above) was the daughter of WILLIAM BROWN, JR. (b. 1810 / Cynthiana, KY; d.1871/buried in Island Grove, Sangamon Co., IL) and SUSAN BRADFORD FINLEY (b. 1812 / Cynthiana, KY; m. 1835 / Jacksonville, IL; d. 1866/buried in Island Grove, Sangamon Co., IL). I don't know the names of any other children they may have had. WILLIAM BROWN, JR. (above) was the son of WILLIAM BROWN, SR. (b. 1779/Frederick Co., VA; d. 1833/bur.in Isl.Grv, Sang.Co.,IL) and HARRIET BURGESS WARFIELD (b. 1788/place unkn; m. 1805/Cynthiana, KY; d.1850/Island Grove, Sang.Co., IL). Additional child of Wm.&Harriet: RUTH ANN BROWN (no added info). WILLIAM BROWN, SR. (b.1779;d.1833;above) was the son of JAMES BROWN, JR. (b. 1742/Mansfield, Spotsylvania Co., VA; d. 1815/Libben Grove, Bourbon Co., KY) and ANNA DAVIS (b. 1746/England; m. 1764/Culpepper Co., VA; d. 1799/place unkn.) I have no other info as to other children they may have had. JAMES BROWN, JR. (b.1742;d.1815;above) was the son of JAMES BROWN, SR. (b. 1708/ Middlesex Co., VA; d. 1784/Culpepper Co., VA) and ELIZABETH POOL (b. 1718/Cloucester Co., VA; m. bef. 1742/date & place unkn/date based on son's b'date; d. 1786/Culpepper Co., VA). I have no info as to other children they may have had. ELIZABETH POOL's parents came from England. QUESTIONS... Who were James BROWN(b. 1708;d.1784)'s parents? Does anyone have the "unkn" info missing above? Who were the siblings of these BROWNs shown above? Is anyone else researching this line? If so, I have more info on some of the maternal lines. If you have any info to add to the above, please post it on the BROWN list and also to me at: jtwiswall@earthlink.NET . Thanks

I am fairly new to this list and was just wondering if there has been a roll call lately so that everyone will know what families everyone is researching. Edie

Brown List: I would be delighted to share any information I might have with anyone who wants it. That would mean I had actually made contact with someone who MIGHT be from "My Browns"! My gr-father was Charles Leslie Brown. He was born July 20, 1895. He married Lucy Myrtle Watson, born November 27,1900. They lived in Direct, Texas (22 miles NE of Paris,Tx). His father's name was Denny L Brown (Do not know his mothers name). He had one brother named Jake and one brother named Ed that I know of (no documentation). Myrt and Less had 9 children: 1. James Odis m: Maude Stapleton - 2 children: Harold Dean and James Gary 2. Alvin m: Joycelyn Booth then Francis Bryant 1 child from 1st marriage: Linda Goodgion Fortner (thats me). 3. Edward m: Francis Bice then 2 more marriages 4 children from 1st marriage: Charles Edward, Danny Wayne, twins Ricky & Vicky 4. Charles Kenneth married ? Shipman 1 child: Kenny 5. Winfred Lee (Shorty) married Thelma Sessums Ronny, Phillip, & Stephen 6. Lucy Bea married Ben Cannady 7 children: Leslie (Lucky), Rita, David, Deborah, Neil, twins Mearl & Earl 7. Mildred Mary Dean m: Billy Joe Alexander 3 children: Brenda, Robert Craig, Billy Howard 8. James Alfred (Bud) m: Betty Carmen 2 children: Angelie and Cherie 9. Baby stillborn Anyone connecting with any of this please contact me. I've hit a brick wall. Thanks and I think doing this is a great idea. Linda Fortner Lyndfort@AOL.com

-----"27"---BROUN, BROWN(E)" CREST DESCRIPTIONS Extracted by Pamela Brown-Courtney I have a picture of each of these, as soon as I can find a way to post them I will. ====================================================== Plate number, crest number, country or city, description, color, latin motto (if known) Plate 10-7 A Falcon, on a lure, rising proper. Plate 16-2 Norfolk, on a mount, vertical, an ostrich, argent (silver or white), winged, beaked, legged, collarded (gold). Plate 20-7 An eagles head, erases, proper "Vi et Virtute." Plate 29-7 Hertfordshire, a buck's head, sable, attired, or issuing from a crown, paly, gold. Plate 39-14 A demi-lion, rampant, in dexter (a trefoil), vertical. Plate 45-3 Edinburgh, in hand a closed proper. "Delectat et Ornat." Plate 48-6 Hertfordshire, Eng., a griffins head, erased, sable, beaked, eared (charged on neck with a bar gamelle) argent, and a trefoil slipped, ermine. "Si Sit Prudentia." Plate 48-8 A lion, passant. Plate 48-9 German Scotch, a dolphin, naiant, proper. "Virtus dedit, cura Servabit" or "Labor Omnia Vincit." Plate 48-11 John, Esquire of Clonboy,Co Clare,an eagle,displayed. "Virtus dabit, cura servabit." Plate 48-11 England, an eagle, displayed, vertical, "Suivez La Raison." Plate 67-5 Scotch,a lion, rampant,per pale, azure and gules (red), charged with a cinquefoil between two fleur-de-lis. "Si sit Prudentia" or "Famae Studiosus honest" or "Spero." Plate 67-14 Scotch, a cock,proper. "Docendo disco." Plate 68-2 Sussex,a stag, proper, attired, (ducally gorged, and lined) gold. Plate 82-5 Scotch, in hand an book, proper, "Deus Evehit pios." Plate 82-12 Nottinghamshire, a cock-pheasant, azure, combed, beaked, gules, collard, gold. Plate 87-6 Colston, Bart., Scotch Brown of Thornydikes a lion, rampant, in dexter a fleur de lis (gold). "Floreat Majestas." Plate 87-11 Liverpool, Lancshire, an eagle, displayed, with two heads, per pale, azure and gule, wings charged with a fleur-de-lis, sable (without flames). Plate 87-15 A demi-lion, ducally gorged and chained, Plate 89-1 Brown or Broun)Scotch, a vine tree, proper. "Praemium Virtutis Honor." Plate 91-13 Bart., Westminister & Scotch, a demi-lion, gules, in dexter-a-Fleur-de-lis. "Floreat Majestas." Plate 91-14 Out of a crown vallary,or a bucks head, sable, attired, gold. Plate 98-1 Derbyshire, a lion, rampant, argent, ducally crowned, or supporting a tilting spear, proper, headed, of the first. Plate 105-7 Scotch, a rose, gule, stalked and leaved, proper "Armat et Ornat." Plate 107-15 Scotch & Irish, an arm, in armour, embowed, couped at shoulder, resting elbow on the wreath, in Hand a sword, proper. Plate 109-8 Scotch, a ship in full sail, in the sea, all proper. "Caute et Sedulo and Deus Adesto." Plate 126-9 A lions gamb, erased and erect, gules (holding a wing, argent).

I also must put in my two cents worth...just recently I made my first contact overseas with a very distant relative and I just happened to have what he was looking for. I in turn asked for information regarding the immediate family of the gentleman that connected us and he was quick to stop writing....hmmm, lessons we learn. It is no wonder that "we" run into people that are hesitant to share. Now that I have said that I will probly get an e-mail within the next couple days with the information I asked for... MMMMMmmmm! Crow is good! But then by the same token I have ran into people who have gone out of their way to transcribe stuff that obviously took some time and were gracious enough to share with me. In the course of our research we will all run into "Lurkers" who would rather bottom feed off of other people's hard work and contribute nothing in return, but all in all I think the good definetly outweighs the bad. Best to all and Happy Ancestor Hunting! Chadd Rose mailto: tuckman5@intrepid.net ***************************************** THE ELUSIVE ANCESTOR I went searching for an ancestor. I cannot find him still. He moved around from place to place and did not leave a will. He married where a courthouse burned. He mended all his fences. He avoided any man who came to take the U.S. Census. He always kept his luggage packed, this man who had no fame. And every 20 years or so, this rascal changed his name. His parents came from Europe. They should be upon some list of passengers to U.S.A., but somehow they got missed. And no one else in this world is searching for this man. So, I play geneasolitaire to find him if I can. I'm told he's buried in a plot, with tombstone he was blessed; but the weather took engraving, and some vandals took the rest. He died before the county clerks decided to keep records. No Family Bible has emerged, in spite of all my efforts. To top it off this ancestor, who caused me many groans, Just to give me one more pain, betrothed a girl named JONES. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Clouddancing111@aol.com> To: <BROWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Sharing Information I agree with this and almost must add that there are those who are willing to take information from other family researchers, but who are too selfish to share any information they may have. ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com ============================== Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Hi " Cousin's "--- My brick wall is my ggggrandmother--Lydia Brown b 1775 in New York. Place unknown. Parents and sibling's unknown. She married Joseph Lobdell in New York and settled in Washington County, Ohio in 1816. They had the following children : Lewis b 1812, Annis and Mary Lobdell. Lydia Brown Lobdell d 1860 in Ohio at age 85. I really do hope she is in some one's family tree. Please check and see. If so, I would appreciate any info/help with her family. I continue to search for her parents and sib's. I do have info on Lydia and Joseph to share. Thanks so much, Roberta

In a message dated 09/14/2000 11:13:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PepperCRG@aol.com writes: << I challenge everyone to POST one of your most significant FINDS and see if we can BRIDGE some gaps! >> In order to maintain the fantasy that someday someone is going to just up and tell me everything about some relative of mine I will look up stuff from every resource I have available. Then, when people get that info from me, they think that's how these lists really work. Then, THEY start looking up all kinds of stuff for people and sharing it. Pretty soon everyone will be drawn into my fantasy and that's when they're gonna write and tell me about that relative. ;-) Frank J.

Appears that the document will not transfer as an attachment, so I will past to an email - will make it long, but still available! Second Article on Coat of Arms In the first article (BFGSAugust 1997) we explored a BROWN Coat of Arms from Bonnyton, Scotland, This Article will identify other Crest parts, so that no matter which of the many BROWN COAT OF ARMS belongs to your Ancestry, you'll be able to decipher its history! Coat of Arms II The shield is called the "Escutcheon"; the decorative designs, coins, roundels (figures), and ordinaries on the shield are called "charges." The crest is usually an animal that rests on top of the shield. As part of the crest, there is the helmet and mantles, which are fancy representations of the protective cloth knights once, wore. And last, is the "motto" which can be in any language, but in England, Latin is generally used. The "hues" used in heraldry represent a clue about the bearer. The tinctures used are divided into metals, colors, and furs. They are indicated in black and white by drawings of a system of lines or dots that was introduced in the 17th Century of the Italian Herald Silvestre de Petra-Sancta. ( Examples will follow the article) The metals used are gold and silver. Gold (or yellow) denotes generosity, valor, elevation of mind, or perseverance. Silver (or white) represents serenity, nobility, purity of thought, or religious fervor. Metals are always displayed on color, and vice-versa. never metal on metal, or color on color. The colors are red, blue, green, black, and purple. (Reddish purple and orange-tawny are rarely used, as they represent marks of disgrace due to "abatement of honor." Red represents fortitude and creative power, while blue indicates loyalty truth, and splendor. Green means hope, vitality, and plenty. Black is for repentance or vengeance. Purple means loyalty and splendor. The furs most commonly used are vair and ermine. Vair signifies a high mark of dignity, and ermine denotes nobility with dignity. The charges seen on most BROWN COAT OF ARMS will likely be the lion, the eagle, Or cock. The figures: ships, helmets, and the shield are generally surrounded by fleurs-de-lis (flowers or feathers) symbolizing purity of conviction. The ordinaries (geometrical figures used as charges on the field) and are divided into two groups: honorable ordinaries and sub-ordinaries. The honorable ordinaries are seven (7) in number: the bend, chevron, chief, cross, fess, pale and saltire. There are fourteen (14) sub-ordinaries: annulet, billet, bordure, canton, flaunch, fret, the gyron, inescutcheon, the label, the lozenge, orle, pile, roundel, and the tressure. The partition lines are used to separate the field and to border the ordinaries. There are eight (8) basic styles: indented, inverted, engrailed, wavy, nebuly, embattled, raguly, and dovetailed. Pamela Brown Courtney, CRG & Research Editor for BFGS

I would like to commend those of you who share your data. As a certified genealogical researcher for over 30 years, I have experienced many such stories of those who take, and do not give, but FAR MORE who will give-up YEARS of info for the asking. I would also like to remind THOSE who DO NOT share, that is the very reason WHY we can't connect all the BROWNS!!! :-) I challenge everyone to POST one of your most significant FINDS and see if we can BRIDGE some gaps! I will be making my own contribution under separate post entitled BROWN CRESTS.

Anyone for going back to BROWN genealogy?? All these comments aren't genealogy. --- James Wiswall --- jtwiswall@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Hi List, This is my total of information about Nancy Brown, so far. Wm Farlow married Nancy Brown 11 Oct 1810 on the IGI for Randolph, North Carolina Entered land Boone Co., Indiana, 1836 I have a lot more information on the Farlow side of the family. Always willing to share information. Respectfully, Bettyann Lockwood Hedegard lockwood@gotnet.net

I agree with this and almost must add that there are those who are willing to take information from other family researchers, but who are too selfish to share any information they may have.