Looking for ancestors & siblings, dates, places, etc. for James Awtry Whitfield Brown Thanks, Chuck Demastus Descendants of James Awtry Whitfield Brown 1 James Awtry Whitfield BROWN b: in Atlanta, GA . +Martha GARRIS Father: James GARRIS Mother: Jane HUSKEN .. 2 Mary Jane (Molly) BROWN b: 4 Nov 1864 in SC d: 5 Apr 1909 in Tishomingo Co, MS ...... +Alfred Ashworth BAIN b: 17 Nov 1864 in near Birmingham, AL m: 3 Feb 1882 in Alcorn Co, MS d: 1915 in Tishomingo Co, MS Father: John Alfred BAIN Mother: Nancy FRANKS

Good question. Same thing happened to me. Hope somebody has an answer! Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: clare moore <cmoore7@triad.rr.com> To: <BROWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:22 AM Subject: [BROWN] genforum.com > I have recently changed my Internet Service Provider and now have a new email address. I have several queries posted on genforum.com and would like to know if it is possible to change the email address on the queries to my new email address. Can someone help me? > > I have contacted genforum.com Customer Service several times but they have not responded. > > Clare > Researching the Browns of Chatham and Randolph Counties, North Carolina > > > ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== > contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Looking for William Cecil Brown B-abt 1850-1870 in TN then went to AR and on to Fannin Co TX. Thank you Bill

I have recently changed my Internet Service Provider and now have a new email address. I have several queries posted on genforum.com and would like to know if it is possible to change the email address on the queries to my new email address. Can someone help me? I have contacted genforum.com Customer Service several times but they have not responded. Clare Researching the Browns of Chatham and Randolph Counties, North Carolina

Mary Anne: asked Mary Anne As a Christmas gift to my father many years ago I took our 100 yr. old family Bible to a book restorer. When I brought them the Bible the front spline had come apart the front and rear covers were falling off. The restorer rewove the broken page thread bindings, layered a new softer leather beneath the old leather front spline and covers, and installed new top sheet paper to the front and back and new cover backing. The Bible now opens and closes with no "creaks and groans" and the pages lay flat like it was new. I forget what I paid in 1976 for this but the restorer said it should last another 100 years. As for "Special care " the bible sits on top of a bookcase with reproductions of the old photos I have, This year it was laid open to the Christmas story for the holidays. The little extra that you may spent to have the Bible or any old Family book is worth it as the pride you will have passing on to a family member later is really neat. Respectfully Keith W Brown Indianapolis, IN http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/b/r/o/Keith-W-Brown

Some of the "200 year old books" were donated to libraries, and the previous owner made the notations in the books prior to donating them. My point is: If I OWN the book and want to make notes in it, I will. I will NOT, however, make notes in a book that does not belong to me. << I hate to say this but!!!!!!, some people ink out or correct things on original documents, or even make notes updating them. its very disconcerting to see a 200 year old book, defaced. My archives(tennessee) allows only number 2 pencils, in their document, and map areas. >>

One more suggestion - placing the clipping/page on nylon net (tulle) before immersing it makes it easier to handle and reduces chances of tearing when removing from the solution. Susan Evans in sunny Puget Sound, WA, country

Hello All, Looking for descendants of Scott BROWN- Caroline County VA. Very little known at this point . Scott appears in the 1787 personal property tax list as the son of Chas Brown. Trying to prove whether Scott had a son or grandson Charles. Any help appreciated! Lynn

I have been making use of information preserving old documents, is there any way to preserve very old Bibles? I have been told one I own belongs "under glass." It is in bad repair. I keep it in a trunk wrapped in cotton. Two others are in pretty good shape to be 150 years old, but I know keeping them in boxes, they will not stay that way. One has a leather cover which had a little mildew when I received it, and was in a plastic bag. Any suggestions? Mary Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "tennessee rebel" <halltown_tn@yahoo.com> To: <BROWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 10:50 AM Subject: [BROWN] old documents/books > I hate to say this but!!!!!!, some people ink out or > correct things on original documents, or even make > notes updating them. > its very disconcerting to see a 200 year old book, > defaced. > My archives(tennessee) allows only number 2 pencils, > in their document, and map areas. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== > contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > >

Many (most?) depositories of old documents (special collections in university libraries, for example) must take extra precautions to protect their papers.....unfortunately not all researchers are trustworthy....even some college professors have been guilty of stealing documents...in my own family searches, one depository has several documents which were indexed, but have been "removed." Sadly, no one other than fellow descendants would have been interested in those particular documents. Midge Garza

I hate to say this but!!!!!!, some people ink out or correct things on original documents, or even make notes updating them. its very disconcerting to see a 200 year old book, defaced. My archives(tennessee) allows only number 2 pencils, in their document, and map areas. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

I have been away for a while and am just catching up and saw a lot of replys to the one who was not allowed to make copies. I work in a county archives and we also do not allow the olders books to be copies, but we have microfilm of all of them. Has this person asked if they have been filmed? The Mormon Church has done extensive filming and there is a good chance they were done also. Just a suggestion as I have not seen that anyone else has said it. Betty Sue in SC

OPPS, what I didn't say, is--What they are giving you is the cert. that they now mail to you. It is the couple's, orginal record. NOT the original COURTS record. This is a big difference. It that time, of horse and buggy, the couple had to come back to pick it up and so many times they did not. The court house and where they lived was not an easy travel distance. Or sometimes a place where they went. My Grandparents lived outside of Sweetwater, TX. And at that a far piece to travel, by buggy, but for them to go to Abline, was really far. this is where they were suppose to be married, and where the train stopped, bring her from AL. They probably didn't get back to Abline to pick up the Cert. and I hope it is still there! AND that I get it! Something I have been meaning to do , but even with our cars Abline is a far distance from Houston! and I only seem to go thru on a weekend! I am pretty sure it is these type of "records" they have let you take! From: "Valerie Upton" <v_upton@hotmail.com> To: BROWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] copying old documents Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:53:42 -0600 My understanding has been that IF they will let you look at the old orig doc. and you find one, that belonged to your Grandparents or so forth, they will let you have them. But I don't think that means you can just take any of them. Of course, how well they check that out I don't know. Others will find a record. Usually they are on microfilm now, but some of the smaller counties will have hand written Doc in large books. I didn't have any problems getting mine from the 1800's copied, but they did it. The books are where you can look thru them but you have to tell them to copy. Which was fine with me, they had to lift and carry! LOL Those books were HUGE. At our Lib. there are some very old books that they won't let us copy for the same reasons as you were given. Books just in horrible condition. I have been surprised in that case, that they didn't copy them, and have the copy out for people to look at, and copy, and the orginal put up, totally. Some, I have been afraid to even pick up, they were so bad. Most of the older court books I have seen, have been in good condition, but I am sure that is not always the case. To many places have floods! fires, bugs, and items lost if they have moved. I have run into clerks that want to decide what you can have, even against the judges order! But you just don't take no for an answer. there is usually someone nice there that will help. Good luck to all - just remember sone one is to find my Brown's for me this yr!!!! this is yr 15!!!! From: "George W. Page" <gwpage@erols.com> To: BROWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] copying old documents Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:43:26 -0500 I had a similar experience several years ago in a county (un-named) in central PA when they allowed me to go to the basement and go through boxes of old documents, some dated in the 1700s, to take whatever I wanted. I found court appointment orders with my relatives name listed in the proceedings! I wonder if Romona's husband is of the opinion that his suggested tactic would work with the "Declaration of Independence" hoisted for public viewing in a special glass case daily in the U.S. National Archives in Wash., D.C.? GWP ____________ At 03:19 AM 2/2/2001 +0000, you wrote: >I certainly sympathize with not being able to copy old documents. I >understand the necessity of protecting them. However, ... NO public >official can legally deny a copy of any "public" records. It's a >fundamental right to obtain copies of any and all public records at >reasonable costs, times,and places. We do not have a right to just walk >in and demand a copy at any time. However, legally we have a right to >access. >My husband, who is an attorney, said that if you should encounter this >problem in the future, you should go to the Judge's office who is >responsible for that particular court and explain the problem to his/her >bailiff who in turn will relay the information to the judge and the copies >will be released in accordance with law. > >That said, we do need to be careful and try and protect these old >documents and I think it would probably be easier to get the scanner >pen. Of course, I'm not sure what is worse, not being able to get a copy >from a book, or to be handed the original marriage license, as I was in >one county in Tennessee and told that I could have it. I was shocked, and >questioned the clerk, and they said they did it all the time. So I am in >possession of it, and no one will ever be able to look upon it again in >that courthouse. So sad.... > >Ramona > >searching Gibson, Caldwell, Edwards, Brown, Collins, Beets, Beeler, >Croushore, Englebrite/Engebretson >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== BROWN Mailing List ==== >contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com ============================== Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! http://searches.rootsweb.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

1850 census--Jackson County Alabama USA Could this be someone's Brown family? Apparently the recorder could not make out the name. 12 219 219 Br William 36 M Farmer NC 13 219 219 Br Sarah 36 F NC X 14 219 219 Br George 13 M NC 15 219 219 Br Elizabeth 11 F NC 16 219 219 Br Larkin 10 M NC 17 219 219 Br James 6 M NC 18 219 219 Br Harriet 4 F NC 19 219 219 Br Elisha 1 F Ga 20 219 219 Br Lalla 1 Ga

Sorry but I saw where Ramona was searching for Browns an Collins but I did not see her address. Ramona could you contact me. I am looking for Brown, White and Collins. As well as several others but The Brows married the Whites who married the Collins. Thank you Barb Valcourt@dfn.com Arise oh Faith arise, let the glory of the Lord touch your soul

My understanding has been that IF they will let you look at the old orig doc. and you find one, that belonged to your Grandparents or so forth, they will let you have them. But I don't think that means you can just take any of them. Of course, how well they check that out I don't know. Others will find a record. Usually they are on microfilm now, but some of the smaller counties will have hand written Doc in large books. I didn't have any problems getting mine from the 1800's copied, but they did it. The books are where you can look thru them but you have to tell them to copy. Which was fine with me, they had to lift and carry! LOL Those books were HUGE. At our Lib. there are some very old books that they won't let us copy for the same reasons as you were given. Books just in horrible condition. I have been surprised in that case, that they didn't copy them, and have the copy out for people to look at, and copy, and the orginal put up, totally. Some, I have been afraid to even pick up, they were so bad. Most of the older court books I have seen, have been in good condition, but I am sure that is not always the case. To many places have floods! fires, bugs, and items lost if they have moved. I have run into clerks that want to decide what you can have, even against the judges order! But you just don't take no for an answer. there is usually someone nice there that will help. Good luck to all - just remember sone one is to find my Brown's for me this yr!!!! this is yr 15!!!! From: "George W. Page" <gwpage@erols.com> To: BROWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BROWN] copying old documents Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 22:43:26 -0500 I had a similar experience several years ago in a county (un-named) in central PA when they allowed me to go to the basement and go through boxes of old documents, some dated in the 1700s, to take whatever I wanted. I found court appointment orders with my relatives name listed in the proceedings! I wonder if Romona's husband is of the opinion that his suggested tactic would work with the "Declaration of Independence" hoisted for public viewing in a special glass case daily in the U.S. National Archives in Wash., D.C.? GWP ____________ At 03:19 AM 2/2/2001 +0000, you wrote: >I certainly sympathize with not being able to copy old documents. I >understand the necessity of protecting them. However, ... NO public >official can legally deny a copy of any "public" records. It's a >fundamental right to obtain copies of any and all public records at >reasonable costs, times,and places. We do not have a right to just walk >in and demand a copy at any time. However, legally we have a right to >access. >My husband, who is an attorney, said that if you should encounter this >problem in the future, you should go to the Judge's office who is >responsible for that particular court and explain the problem to his/her >bailiff who in turn will relay the information to the judge and the copies >will be released in accordance with law. > >That said, we do need to be careful and try and protect these old >documents and I think it would probably be easier to get the scanner >pen. Of course, I'm not sure what is worse, not being able to get a copy >from a book, or to be handed the original marriage license, as I was in >one county in Tennessee and told that I could have it. I was shocked, and >questioned the clerk, and they said they did it all the time. So I am in >possession of it, and no one will ever be able to look upon it again in >that courthouse. So sad.... > >Ramona > >searching Gibson, Caldwell, Edwards, Brown, Collins, Beets, Beeler, >Croushore, Englebrite/Engebretson >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >==== BROWN Mailing List ==== >contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ==== BROWN Mailing List ==== contact list manager at judjack@rocketmail.com ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

JACKSON COUNTY ALABAMA 1871-1876 AND 1876-1881 *Bk=book P=page col=people of color F=female 2 certificates/page* Brown, Alice A. M. to J. W. Willingham 06 Jan 1881 Bk-C P.540 Brown, Allice to John Bell 25 Jul 1880 Bk-C P.492 Brown, Allice P. to Isaah More 05 Feb 1874 Bk-B P.305 Brown, Ann (col) to William Brown (col) 06 Jun 1874 Bk-B P.347 Brown, Charles to Joseph A. Bryant (F) 25 May 1876 Bk-C P.27 Brown, D. I. to Sherrod N. Godwin 16 Feb 1871 Bk-B P.5 Brown, Dallas to Mary E. Brown 16 Jan 1879 Bk-C P.323 Brown, Elizabeth L. to James A. Reaves 26 Dec 1875 Bk-B P.543 Brown, Emeline Jane to Lewis Crook 26 Aug 1872 Bk-B P.135 Brown, George to Rose Moore 04 Jul 1875 Bk-B P.473 Brown, Henry B. to Mary E. Smith 17 Jan 1878 Bk-C P.214 Brown, Letha to John Arnold 05 Apr 1876 Bk-C P.14 Brown, Louisa to G. W. Chapman 11 Feb 1875 Bk-B P.437 Brown, Maggie to William H. Payne 21 Feb 1871 Bk-B P.3 Brown, Mary (col) to William Vincent (col) 31 Oct 1871 Bk-B P.57 Brown, Mary to Calvin Ladd 08 May 1880 Bk-C P.503 Brown, Mary A. M. to R. M. Majors 06 Aug 1878 Bk-C P.266 Brown, Mary E. to Dallas Brown 16 Jan 1879 Bk-C P.323 Brown, Mary J. to William H. Cox 25 Mar 1874 Bk-B P.328 Brown, Nancy to J. A. (John) Miller 08 Aug 1875 Bk-B P.492 Brown, Paul to Easter Robinson 26 Dec 1878 Bk-C P.316 Brown, Rectina to George Bonham(Barnam?) 29 Dec 1875 Bk-B P.543 Brown, Robert to Laura Davis 04 Mar 1879 Bk-C P.342 Brown, Semmey S. to Francis M. Jacks 23 Dec 1875 BK-B P.547 Brown, Thomas to Elvira Keys 20 Jan 1878 Bk-C P.217 Brown, W. C. to Annie L. Kerby(Kirby?) 23 Jan 1872 Bk-B P.84 Brown, W. P. to Elnora Gideon 08 Jan 1879 Bk-C P.319 Brown, William to Rachel E. Caperton 24 Mar 1871 Bk-B P.14 Brown, William (col) to Ann Brown (col) 06 Jun 1874 Bk-B P.347 Brown, William R. to Susan Anderson 12 Mar 1873 Bk-

Hi, Does anyone have record of John Wiley BROWN b. abt 1830 in Alabama died in the Civil War. He lived in LA in 1850, and Liberty County, TX in 1860. Any information will be appreciated. Jason __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

does any know who nicholas brown birth 1601 in inkborrow,worchester eng. cornelius brown 1638 reading,middle ma,us died 1703. samuel brown birth 13,sept 1675 reading ma.usa death sept. 5 ,1722 elisha brown birth dec.12,1715 in reading middlesex ma. usa death before 1759 brothers and sisters are. thank you

Jim Patrick, I see in your signature line that you are also searching Browns from VA>NC>TN>IN>IL. The family story goes that James Brown's son of NC, William Brown moved from TN to Richmond, IN by 1817. I find William's brother, James, in the Quaker records of Wrightsborogh, GA. William's son, James Madison Brown was born June 14, 1816 (either NC or TN). I have both James and William buried in Richmond, but I can't find James' grave again. James Madison's son is listed below. My Great Grandfather, John H. Brown. He was born in Richmond, IN but all of his children were born in Danville, Vermilion Co. , IL. That is the subject of my search. John H. Brown was born Feb. 20, 1846 was a Railroad engineer on the Illinois to Richmond, IN run. Married Mary E. "Mollie" Gillespie of Bellefontaine, OH, Apr 23, 1873. Their children were: Lulu Maud b. Oct 19, 1873 (died at 11 months) William Frances b. June 9, 1874 (he married twice, Maud?? and Edna??) Edward Glessing b. June 30, 1878 James M. b. July 11, 1880 Paul Robert b. Jan 4, 1882 John Carl b. Mar 31, 1885 (my grandfather) James M died in 1894 in Richmond so I know they were in Illinois from 1873 to 1894. I believe William stayed in Illinois but have no other info. Edward did stay and died in Chicago, but have no other info. I also have that Lulu died in Illinois but no other info. Can anyone fill in the blanks? Willing to share other info on my Browns (back to James Brown b. 1755 NC) Does anyone see any connections to their lines? Marcia Sloan