Additionally the name may be a variation of "Ondine" a poetic name from literature. I have long forgotten which prose or poetry Ondine appeared in but possibly Irish or Scottish. At 07:19 AM 6/20/2007, you wrote: >Not really. I had not thought of that possibility at all. Her mother's >maiden name was Lamar and I know the names of her mother's brothers and >sisters, and there was no Undine anywhere. But perhaps her father's mother >was an Undine. I'll have to explore that notion. Thanks for writing. > >Sue Howard > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "joyce moore" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:54 PM >Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines > > > > Carolyn, > > I saw your note and was wondering if you had explored the possibility > > that Mary Undine was named for a grandmother. Undine sounds like a family > > name to me. I have some family that named their child the wife's maiden > > name, and my son is named Barrett, which is my mother's maiden name. > > > > Joyce > > > > Carolyn Sue Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much > > information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again > > to > > the list. I figure it can't hurt! > > > > The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, > > great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly > > in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, > > nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in > > 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. > > They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest > > was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, > > William, > > James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah > > (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route > > to > > Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. > > In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner > > (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown > > remarried, > > to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his > > first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND > > Mary > > Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal > > Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, > > Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, > > they > > were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN > > KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know > > who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in > > Virginia, > > etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's > > children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of > > course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and > > married > > an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son > > of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained > > there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - > > Thomas > > Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT > > HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy > > (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I > > hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. > > > > Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another > > e-mail) > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/854 - Release Date: >6/19/2007 1:12 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.1/854 - Release Date: 6/19/2007 1:12 PM

Not really. I had not thought of that possibility at all. Her mother's maiden name was Lamar and I know the names of her mother's brothers and sisters, and there was no Undine anywhere. But perhaps her father's mother was an Undine. I'll have to explore that notion. Thanks for writing. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "joyce moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines > Carolyn, > I saw your note and was wondering if you had explored the possibility > that Mary Undine was named for a grandmother. Undine sounds like a family > name to me. I have some family that named their child the wife's maiden > name, and my son is named Barrett, which is my mother's maiden name. > > Joyce > > Carolyn Sue Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much > information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again > to > the list. I figure it can't hurt! > > The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, > great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly > in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, > nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in > 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. > They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest > was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, > William, > James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah > (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route > to > Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. > In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner > (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown > remarried, > to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his > first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND > Mary > Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal > Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, > Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, > they > were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN > KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know > who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in > Virginia, > etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's > children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of > course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and > married > an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son > of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained > there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - > Thomas > Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT > HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy > (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I > hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. > > Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another > e-mail) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

And I have 3 Brown lines I'm researching. Valentine Brown's line, which is supposed to be my grandma's line, but she talked about Braxton Brown of Morgan Co. Ky all the time, so think they might have been brother's. No proof. Then I have Abel Browne, the immigrant. Can't tie any of them together, but they all come into the same lines. Wanda --- [email protected] wrote: > Good Story > > Let me throw in another line of Brown's Benjamin > Bartow Brown b Va 1780 > ????in Ga by 1800's ggg grand pappy d 1855 ,Ga gg > grand pop William E Brown > b 1810 Ga d ????? Carroll ,Co Ga .David Wilson > Brown g pop b ga 1835 d > Ga 1917 Carroll Co , David Wilson Jr Brown my pop > b 1873 d 1964 Carroll Co > Ga > > > > Have Fun !!!!! > > Paul W Brown Only Liveing Brown Of this line > of Brown's 85 years > young > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

Good Story Let me throw in another line of Brown's Benjamin Bartow Brown b Va 1780 ????in Ga by 1800's ggg grand pappy d 1855 ,Ga gg grand pop William E Brown b 1810 Ga d ????? Carroll ,Co Ga .David Wilson Brown g pop b ga 1835 d Ga 1917 Carroll Co , David Wilson Jr Brown my pop b 1873 d 1964 Carroll Co Ga Have Fun !!!!! Paul W Brown Only Liveing Brown Of this line of Brown's 85 years young ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dr. Jesse Browne (1709-1770), I believe was the son of Dr Samuel Brown 1660-1739. Does it mention how Thomas and Jesse would be connected? I also believe Dr Jesse Had a son DR Samuel (1730-1800).......I believe in this line there may have been some Anthony's... How large is the folder?...I would be willing to pay for copies if needed.. Thanks Sue Susan A. Harnish Rockford Linear Actuation, Inc Phone:815-986-4407 Fax:815-986-4410 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carolyn Smalley Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:38 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [BROWN] Brown - Browne Family I am not a Brown descendent or researcher; however, my Aunt, Annie Laurie Strickland, was married to Henry Randall Brown of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, on December 25, 1936. Henry Randall Brown was born January 4, 1909; and, if my memory is not too far off, I believe that he died approximately 1961. Henry Randall Brown was the son of Simon Henry Brown (DOB June 1, 1863 and DOD August 19, 1935). Simon Henry Brown married Devalsco Eugenia Hargrove, daughter of Daniel Jackson and Elizabeth Thomas Hargrove, on December 1, 1891. Last week I was going through some old pictures and came across a folder with the heading of "The Browne Family of Virginia, North Carolina, and Alabama -- Rock Hill, S.C. July 25, 1956." It begins with, "Full credit for this work is given to Col. Woolsey Finnell of Tuscaloosa, Ala., who spent many years and much money collecting the data for it, to his family, and especially to his daughter, Mrs. Nubie Livingston, who did the major part of the correspondence, the assimilating of this material, and typing it." (NOTE: The information in the first paragraph of this message regarding Henry Randall Brown's parents, date of birth and date of marriage to Annie Laurie Strickland is also taken from the information prepared and in the folder giving credit to research of Col. Woolsey Finnel.) The information in the folder begins first regarding Thomas Brown's will that was probated in 1765 in what was then Jerusalem, but is now Courtland, in Southampton County, Virginia. The name of his wife was unknown. Then it mentions Dr. Jesse Browne who was a prominent doctor. There is quite a bit of information on those who come after. Should anyone like me to look up any names, please give me as much information as you can and I will try to help in any way that I can. Carolyn Strickland Smalley Alabama ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am not a Brown descendent or researcher; however, my Aunt, Annie Laurie Strickland, was married to Henry Randall Brown of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, on December 25, 1936. Henry Randall Brown was born January 4, 1909; and, if my memory is not too far off, I believe that he died approximately 1961. Henry Randall Brown was the son of Simon Henry Brown (DOB June 1, 1863 and DOD August 19, 1935). Simon Henry Brown married Devalsco Eugenia Hargrove, daughter of Daniel Jackson and Elizabeth Thomas Hargrove, on December 1, 1891. Last week I was going through some old pictures and came across a folder with the heading of "The Browne Family of Virginia, North Carolina, and Alabama -- Rock Hill, S.C. July 25, 1956." It begins with, "Full credit for this work is given to Col. Woolsey Finnell of Tuscaloosa, Ala., who spent many years and much money collecting the data for it, to his family, and especially to his daughter, Mrs. Nubie Livingston, who did the major part of the correspondence, the assimilating of this material, and typing it." (NOTE: The information in the first paragraph of this message regarding Henry Randall Brown's parents, date of birth and date of marriage to Annie Laurie Strickland is also taken from the information prepared and in the folder giving credit to research of Col. Woolsey Finnel.) The information in the folder begins first regarding Thomas Brown's will that was probated in 1765 in what was then Jerusalem, but is now Courtland, in Southampton County, Virginia. The name of his wife was unknown. Then it mentions Dr. Jesse Browne who was a prominent doctor. There is quite a bit of information on those who come after. Should anyone like me to look up any names, please give me as much information as you can and I will try to help in any way that I can. Carolyn Strickland Smalley Alabama

Sue, was looking at your emails on the Browns again and noticed that you have a Canady. I am desperately researching a Canady line that was in La. and Texas. I think she was Margaret Barrett, born Md. I also have a Wiley line from N.Y. to La. to Texas. Joyce Moore Carolyn Sue Howard <[email protected]> wrote: Oh, my word, Carolyn - three Brown lines?!!! Whew! You are lucky, aren't you?!! You sound like one of my nephews. His last name is Brown, which was his father's name, plus he has the same two Brown lines that I have, from his mother (my sister). His father's Brown line came through Milam, Tennessee and on to Arkansas, I believe. Oh, by the way, even though my first name is Carolyn - I go by my middle name, Sue. Some of my other surnames are Johnson (my maiden name), Clark, Winfield, Cowan, McKee, Sherard, Dickey, Wiley, Faver - all on my father's side - just to mention a few. On my mother's side would be Gilbert, Thomas, Canady, Evans, Strickland, Braswell, possibly Taylor, Merritt, Stokes. Thanks for writing. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines > Don't feel that you have all the luck---I have 3 main Brown lines, 2 for > me and one for my husband. And several in-law-Browns not in the direct > lines. > One of mine and one of my husband's are both stock in NC, the other in > SC. (I keep telling my husband we are going to find out that we are > related one of these days) > > 1. Hubby's line: grandfather was William Ethridge Brown b May 25, 1859 or > 1862 depending on which census you use. b somewhere in Tenn, d Harris Co, > TX 1919 both William's parents shown as being from NC. Married Zelphia > Anne Lowe Jan 3, 1901 in Gordo, Pickens Co, Ala. DNA results link us to > Thomas Brown (father of Edmund Brown) b abt 1716/1720 and living in Bladen > Co, NC in 1769.. Big gap there. > > 2. My gggggrandmother was Elois Brown b 1797 in NC, d after 1869 near > Fairplay, Panola Co, TX married John Harris b 1792/1795 d in Gipson Co, > TN. First 2 children b NC, 3rd child b 1825 in TN, last child b in TN > 1834. > > 3. My ggggrandmother was Margaret Brown b 1788 in SC m David Jay probably > in the Abbeville, SC area, d 1858 Conecuh Co, Alabama. Her parents were > Andrew Brown b abt 1755 d Jan 21, 1808 probably in Abbeville or Old 96, > SC and Mary Hutchenson b abt 1760 > > Oh by the way my name is Carolyn too.Good hunting hope we meet up > somewhere! > > Carolyn Brown > > Carolyn Sue Howard wrote: > I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much > information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again > to > the list. I figure it can't hurt! > > The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, > great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly > in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, > nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in > 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. > They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest > was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, > William, > James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah > (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route > to > Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. > In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner > (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown > remarried, > to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his > first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND > Mary > Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal > Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, > Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, > they > were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN > KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know > who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in > Virginia, > etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's > children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of > course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and > married > an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son > of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained > there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - > Thomas > Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT > HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy > (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I > hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. > > Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another > e-mail) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for anyone connected to Brown/ Browne families of Southampton Va. My GGGGGrandfather Anthony Brown was supposedly born there in 1809... In 1835 he married Mary Ann Glover of NC.....several of their children were also born in SH according to their obits and census. In about 1843 the family moved to Clinton Co Ohio. Does anyone have connections to Southampton Co VA? Sue <javascript:showpic('/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=D1&Date=20050803&Category=P HOTOGALLERIES&ArtNo=803001&Ref=PH&Template=galleryzoom&Params=Itemnr=12',535 ,500)> Susan A. Harnish Rockford Linear Actuation, Inc Phone:815-986-4407 Fax:815-986-4410 [email protected]

I don't have any answers for you, but noted the South to North migration from NC back up to VA. I would think that was somewhat unusual. Though I have come across it once before. That would give me one more reason to think they might be related. Carolyn Brown Don & Sheila <[email protected]> wrote: I have two grandmothers named Mary Brown!!! One married Jeremiah Claypool(e) The other married Jonas Sparks Descendants from both these grandmothers married into my Linkous Family. Additionally, I have Frances Elizabeth Brown who also married into the Linkous Family! I believe that Fanny's father, James Frank Brown, was related to the Mary Brown who married Jonas Sparks, but have been unable to find the exact connection. I believe the connection exists because they were all in Wilkes County NC and they all died in Tazewell County VA. Don't know if I will ever unravel that mystery! Happy Hunting! Sheila SHEILA'S SURNAMES: BARRETT, BEAVERS, BOLING, BROWN, CONLEY, CRICKMER, GODBEY, HANKINS, HARMAN, HARRISON, LINKOUS, MITCHEL, PEERY, SHIFLET, SKAGGS, WHITT, WYNN DON'S SURNAMES: ALLEN, BOLYARD, DAWSON, GOODWIN, HEIN, PRICE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines > Don't feel that you have all the luck---I have 3 main Brown lines, 2 for > me and one for my husband. And several in-law-Browns not in the direct > lines. > One of mine and one of my husband's are both stock in NC, the other in > SC. (I keep telling my husband we are going to find out that we are > related one of these days) > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have two grandmothers named Mary Brown!!! One married Jeremiah Claypool(e) The other married Jonas Sparks Descendants from both these grandmothers married into my Linkous Family. Additionally, I have Frances Elizabeth Brown who also married into the Linkous Family! I believe that Fanny's father, James Frank Brown, was related to the Mary Brown who married Jonas Sparks, but have been unable to find the exact connection. I believe the connection exists because they were all in Wilkes County NC and they all died in Tazewell County VA. Don't know if I will ever unravel that mystery! Happy Hunting! Sheila SHEILA'S SURNAMES: BARRETT, BEAVERS, BOLING, BROWN, CONLEY, CRICKMER, GODBEY, HANKINS, HARMAN, HARRISON, LINKOUS, MITCHEL, PEERY, SHIFLET, SKAGGS, WHITT, WYNN DON'S SURNAMES: ALLEN, BOLYARD, DAWSON, GOODWIN, HEIN, PRICE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines > Don't feel that you have all the luck---I have 3 main Brown lines, 2 for > me and one for my husband. And several in-law-Browns not in the direct > lines. > One of mine and one of my husband's are both stock in NC, the other in > SC. (I keep telling my husband we are going to find out that we are > related one of these days) >

Don't feel that you have all the luck---I have 3 main Brown lines, 2 for me and one for my husband. And several in-law-Browns not in the direct lines. One of mine and one of my husband's are both stock in NC, the other in SC. (I keep telling my husband we are going to find out that we are related one of these days) 1. Hubby's line: grandfather was William Ethridge Brown b May 25, 1859 or 1862 depending on which census you use. b somewhere in Tenn, d Harris Co, TX 1919 both William's parents shown as being from NC. Married Zelphia Anne Lowe Jan 3, 1901 in Gordo, Pickens Co, Ala. DNA results link us to Thomas Brown (father of Edmund Brown) b abt 1716/1720 and living in Bladen Co, NC in 1769.. Big gap there. 2. My gggggrandmother was Elois Brown b 1797 in NC, d after 1869 near Fairplay, Panola Co, TX married John Harris b 1792/1795 d in Gipson Co, TN. First 2 children b NC, 3rd child b 1825 in TN, last child b in TN 1834. 3. My ggggrandmother was Margaret Brown b 1788 in SC m David Jay probably in the Abbeville, SC area, d 1858 Conecuh Co, Alabama. Her parents were Andrew Brown b abt 1755 d Jan 21, 1808 probably in Abbeville or Old 96, SC and Mary Hutchenson b abt 1760 Oh by the way my name is Carolyn too.Good hunting hope we meet up somewhere! Carolyn Brown Carolyn Sue Howard <[email protected]> wrote: I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again to the list. I figure it can't hurt! The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, William, James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route to Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown remarried, to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND Mary Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, they were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in Virginia, etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and married an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - Thomas Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another e-mail) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carolyn, I saw your note and was wondering if you had explored the possibility that Mary Undine was named for a grandmother. Undine sounds like a family name to me. I have some family that named their child the wife's maiden name, and my son is named Barrett, which is my mother's maiden name. Joyce Carolyn Sue Howard <[email protected]> wrote: I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again to the list. I figure it can't hurt! The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, William, James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route to Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown remarried, to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND Mary Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, they were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in Virginia, etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and married an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - Thomas Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another e-mail) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay, here is my second Brown line that I spoke of earlier this afternoon. This one is on my mother's side of the family. My 3rd great grandfather: Ezekiel Brown, Sr. born about 1769 in Virginia - son of Wiliam and Sara Brown) and he died in 1863 in Harris Co., GA Ezekiel married Elizabeth (Betsy) Merritt in 1803 in Green Co., GA. They had the following children: William M. Brown, Ezekiel Brown, Jr. (my 2nd great grandfather), Reuben Brown, Frank Brown, James Brown, Bluford Brown, Adeline Brown, Emeline Brown, and Catherine Brown My 2nd great grandfather: Ezekiel Brown, Jr. born 1806 in Greene Co., Ga, married his first cousin on the Merritt side - Emily Greene) They had the following children: Franklin, Amanda M. (my great grandmother), Elizabeth, George, H. Harrison, Jane, Mary, James, Nancy, and Charles. Ezekiel, Jr. died in Henry Co., AL (as far as I know) between 1860 and 1870. My great grandmother: Amanda M. Brown, born about 1830-33 in Harris Co., GA, married John Q. Thomas in March of 1850 in Harris, and they moved to Coosa Co., AL during 1860. They had the following children: my grandmother, Susan Americus Thomas, born on Christmas Eve, 1850; Emily, William, Nollie, and George Washington Thomas. My grandmother married John F. Gilbert in 1869 and she died in 1944 in Clarksdale, Mississippi (Coahoma Co.) when I was only 8 years old. She lived a very long life just like her great grandparents, Ezekiel Brown, Sr. and Elizabeth Merritt Brown. Susan had a very large family, of which my mother was one of the younger ones, born in 1890, and then my mother had me very late in life in 1936. SO THERE YOU HAVE IT! My other Brown line. Sue (Johnson) Howard

Thanks for writing. I do know of another Ransom Brown who was in Attala County, but he is not MY Ransom Brown. Let me know what Brown you are researching and I will try to help YOU. Sue Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [BROWN] Two Brown Lines >I wish I could help you. I have a Brown line that seems to have originated > in MS except the census says he was born in Alabama. > In looking around, I have bumped into the Ransom Brown (it's a peculiar > name) that you have mentioned, BUT I have no idea where. > The reason I was looking in Virginia is because there was a Robert Brown > living close to the widow (Martha Brown) of my g-g-grandfather in > Yalobusha Co, > MS. I think it was in the 1870 census. The census said he was from > Virginia > and I thought he might be a relative. It didn't turn out. > It's a small thread but maybe it will tie in somewhere for you. > Good luck > Ken Brown > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I wish I could help you. I have a Brown line that seems to have originated in MS except the census says he was born in Alabama. In looking around, I have bumped into the Ransom Brown (it's a peculiar name) that you have mentioned, BUT I have no idea where. The reason I was looking in Virginia is because there was a Robert Brown living close to the widow (Martha Brown) of my g-g-grandfather in Yalobusha Co, MS. I think it was in the 1870 census. The census said he was from Virginia and I thought he might be a relative. It didn't turn out. It's a small thread but maybe it will tie in somewhere for you. Good luck Ken Brown ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have two Brown lines - aren't I lucky?!! Well, I haven't found out much information on either line lately, so I thought I would write once again to the list. I figure it can't hurt! The first is my Brown line on my father's side of the family. My great, great grandfather was a Ransom H. Brown, born in about 1813-15, supposedly in Virginia (where, I have no clue). I have no idea who his parents were, nor his siblings. But he travelled to DeKalb Co., Alabama and was there in 1836, which is when he married my gg grandmother, Mariah Lamar, in DeKalb. They were still there in 1850, and had the following children: The oldest was my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, born in 1839; Frances, William, James, and Sarah. Thomas Brown was born a little after 1850. Mariah (Lamar) Brown died between 1850 and 1860, and she may have died en route to Mississippi or she may have died in childbirth, with the birth of Thomas. In 1858, my great grandmother, Mary Undine Brown, married Joseph Abner (Joab) Johnson, and also earlier in that same year, Ransom Brown remarried, to a Jane Oliver. By 1859, both families (Ransom and his children from his first wife, and the new wife, plus another child - Oliver H. Brown AND Mary Undine and her new husband, plus a child - my grandfather, John Randal Brown) were all in Neshoba Co., Mississippi. Then, Ransom's second wife, Jane, died and he married a third time, to a Nancy Dumas, and by 1870, they were in Copiah Co., MS, and they did have several children. I CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THEM!! At any rate, first of all, I would love to know who Ransom H. Brown's parents/siblings were, where he was born in Virginia, etc. Then, I would love to know what actually happened to all of Ransom's children from three wives. Well, I know what happened to Mary Undine, of course, and Frances, the next oldest, went back to Pontotoc Co. and married an Ambrose Carter. I do believe that Oliver H. Brown, the one and only son of Ransom and Jane (Oliver) Brown also went to Copiah Co., and remained there. I also believe that the youngest child of Ransom and Mariah - Thomas Brown, was in Copiah and died there, but not positive about him. BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO James Brown, Sarah Brown and the children of Ransom and Nancy (Dumas) Brown? Well, I can see this is much too long and involved, but I hope somebody can help. Thanks for reading. Sue (Johnson) Howard (P.S. I'll write about my other Brown line on another e-mail)

Hello Browns: Are these people familiar to you? Barbara >From The Dresden Times [Ontario] issue of 3 Dec 1903-- "Death of Henry Brown" -- On Friday last, death claimed one of the old and respected citizens of Chatham Township in the person of Henry Brown. He had been ailing for some time from stomach trouble, which was supposed to be the cause of his death. The funeral took place on Sunday last, from his late residence, the service being conducted at the house by Rev. Mr. Taylor, of the Dawn Mills Circuit, and the remains were interred in the Dresden cemetery, the service at the grave being conducted by Rev. S. Bond. The deceased was born in Nova Scotia 74 years ago, and came to Kent County when he was two years old and lived with his parents in the township of Harwich; later the family lived in Sombra township and for the past 18 years, Mr. Brown has lived in Chatham township near Thorncliffe. Beside his wife who is one year his senior, he leaves the following sons and daughters: Albert and George of Camden, Edward and Gilbert of Chatham township, Mrs. Cameron, Lorain Ohio, Mrs. Dixon, Dawn township. A sin! gular incident is the fact that just 22 years ago on the same date, a sister of the deceased passed away. _____________________ Henry A. Brown was born 29 Nov 1829. His wife was Lucy Ann Sales, b. 1828. A friend is someone who knows the song of your heart and sings it back to you when you have forgotten the words. --Unknown author

Sorry William is my 5th Great Grandfather and is married to May ?. My 4th Great-grandparents that are in the below report are: James Brown and Martha Vernon. Dave In a message dated 6/15/2007 1:56:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, D E Sloan writes: Hello all, Looking for any cousins that would like to exchange information on the below family. William and Martha are my 4th Great Grandparents. James BROWN bd. 1 Jan 1741, NC rel. Quaker dd. 3 Feb 1818, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | John BROWN | bd. abt 1774, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | James J. BROWN | bd. 14 Feb 1776, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. 9 Jul 1831, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, IN | Rebecca BROWN | bd. 22 Mar 1777, NC | dd. 21 Jul 1858 | Polly BROWN | bd. 26 Jun 1779, NC | dd. 12 Mar 1849 | Phebe BROWN | bd. abt 1782, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | Joseph ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1788, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | William BROWN | bd. 12 Jun 1788, NC | occ. farmer, hatter, and Justice of the Peace | rel. Society of Friends | dd. 12 Jul 1846, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Hopewell Cem. | Eli BROWN | bd. 12 Aug 1792, NC (stone has Aug. 21, 1789) | occ. Hatter (1st in Richmond, IN) & farmed 2 miles NW of Richmond in 1865 | dd. 6 May 1867, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, In Sect 1 | Benjamin ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1803 | occ. 1865 farmer 1 1/2 miles north of Boston, IN | dd. abt 1880 | Mary BROWN | bd. 28 Feb 1819, Guilford Co., NC | dd. abt 1880 Hope that someone sees a connection, Dave ____________________________________ See what's free at _AOL.com_ (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503) . ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello all, Looking for any cousins that would like to exchange information on the below family. William and Martha are my 4th Great Grandparents. James BROWN bd. 1 Jan 1741, NC rel. Quaker dd. 3 Feb 1818, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | John BROWN | bd. abt 1774, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | James J. BROWN | bd. 14 Feb 1776, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. 9 Jul 1831, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, IN | Rebecca BROWN | bd. 22 Mar 1777, NC | dd. 21 Jul 1858 | Polly BROWN | bd. 26 Jun 1779, NC | dd. 12 Mar 1849 | Phebe BROWN | bd. abt 1782, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | Joseph ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1788, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | William BROWN | bd. 12 Jun 1788, NC | occ. farmer, hatter, and Justice of the Peace | rel. Society of Friends | dd. 12 Jul 1846, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Hopewell Cem. | Eli BROWN | bd. 12 Aug 1792, NC (stone has Aug. 21, 1789) | occ. Hatter (1st in Richmond, IN) & farmed 2 miles NW of Richmond in 1865 | dd. 6 May 1867, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, In Sect 1 | Benjamin ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1803 | occ. 1865 farmer 1 1/2 miles north of Boston, IN | dd. abt 1880 | Mary BROWN | bd. 28 Feb 1819, Guilford Co., NC | dd. abt 1880 Hope that someone sees a connection, Dave ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a wm. Brown b 16nov.1729 he m Hanna moon 4 feb 1747 they were quacker also and lived in guilford and surry co. nc. So many of the name the same from generation to generation. [email protected] wrote: Sorry William is my 5th Great Grandfather and is married to May ?. My 4th Great-grandparents that are in the below report are: James Brown and Martha Vernon. Dave In a message dated 6/15/2007 1:56:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, D E Sloan writes: Hello all, Looking for any cousins that would like to exchange information on the below family. William and Martha are my 4th Great Grandparents. James BROWN bd. 1 Jan 1741, NC rel. Quaker dd. 3 Feb 1818, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | John BROWN | bd. abt 1774, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | James J. BROWN | bd. 14 Feb 1776, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. 9 Jul 1831, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, IN | Rebecca BROWN | bd. 22 Mar 1777, NC | dd. 21 Jul 1858 | Polly BROWN | bd. 26 Jun 1779, NC | dd. 12 Mar 1849 | Phebe BROWN | bd. abt 1782, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | Joseph ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1788, Wrightsborough, GA | dd. abt 1830 | William BROWN | bd. 12 Jun 1788, NC | occ. farmer, hatter, and Justice of the Peace | rel. Society of Friends | dd. 12 Jul 1846, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Hopewell Cem. | Eli BROWN | bd. 12 Aug 1792, NC (stone has Aug. 21, 1789) | occ. Hatter (1st in Richmond, IN) & farmed 2 miles NW of Richmond in 1865 | dd. 6 May 1867, Richmond, Wayne Co., IN | brd. Earlham Cem Richmond, In Sect 1 | Benjamin ?? BROWN | bd. abt 1803 | occ. 1865 farmer 1 1/2 miles north of Boston, IN | dd. abt 1880 | Mary BROWN | bd. 28 Feb 1819, Guilford Co., NC | dd. abt 1880 Hope that someone sees a connection, Dave ____________________________________ See what's free at _AOL.com_ (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503) . ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message