On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:25:44 EDT [email protected] writes: >I do descend from James (Jake) Brumfield who >settled in VA around 1670 or so. That should help others who 1) don't know as much & 2) match your DNA. >My grandmother was a direct descendent in the male >line. And, I do have a few male 2nd cousins who >are in the direct male line. Should I contact >them about this? Yes. But maybe I should get the project organized & web pages up so they have something to look at. I recommend you all order the free video tape on FT DNA's DNA projects while you wait on me. Go to: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_video.asp >By the way, family tradition has it that the >earliest Brumfield's in England were from >Cumberland. Interesting. I see in the index to my 1" = 3 mile atlas of Gt. Britain, only 2 places that start with Brum: Brumby & Brumstead. Under Bro*mfield I see: Places named Bromfield in Cumb., Kent, & Shropshire Places named Broomfield in Essex, Kent, & Somerset The suffix "field", makes it sound like the surname derives from living near fields of broom flower. Does anyone sell Broom flower plants. I call it Broom flower less someone think broom sedge (straw). I saw some in the UK when I was there in 1982. From attending the Scottish games, I know only Clan Sutherland accepts BROOMs. I see their clan badge is Butcher's Broom & Cotton Sedge. Two more plants I only know from pictures. The clan demoted BROOM/E from sept to "associated family". I bet my BROOMs are English like your BRUMFIELDs, but Scotland has the only genealogically oriented games useful for introducing kids to "our form of ancestor worship" so I will play at being Scottish until I find out otherwise (which may never happen). >John >San Diego -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!