This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brougham, Pearson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DNG.2ACIB/48 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Mary Brougham, born about 1795 in Warwick, Cumberland. She was married in 1813 to Thomas PEARSON, born 1793 in Wigton, Cumberland. They had 10 children. In the 1851 Census they are living on New Street, (4th household) in Wigton. Any information on her family would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Broughman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DNG.2ACIB/47 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Arthur Warner Broughman or Warner Arthur Broughman who is or was a resident of Lexington, Ky. I am trying to help his Niece from Va. who is very interested as to his welfare and whereabouts. Any and all info will be appreciated. Thanks!

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Hi, **This message is being sent to the BROUGHAM mailing list.** The email address that RootsWeb has for the BROUGHAM list admin [email protected] is bouncing, so RootsWeb is looking to make contact with the list admin. Will the list admin please contact Andrew Billinghurst ([email protected]) so that we know that you are still maintaining this list and please reply quoting this message. List members there is nothing for you to worry about and nothing for you to do, it is probably just an email problem for the person looking after the day-to-day management of this list. Rest assured that this does not mean that your list is in danger. Thanks! Andrew Billinghurst, RootsWeb Staff [email protected] -- Andrew Billinghurst <[email protected]> Adopt-a-mailing list -> http://resources.rootsweb.com/adopt/ Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

BR*Ms, Notice that for the Green/e DNA project: http://freepages.genealogy.RootsWeb.Com/~jwg3/greendna.htm I put the lineage & results of each testee on the web. I assume that will be ok with you all? I think showing the results is important to encourage others to participate. I am willing to wait to post the lineages of each testee until their results are in. That way no one can say that the results are made up by FT DNA because FT DNA knew who should match in advance. I have added you to the list of those who have filled out the form to order a kit. It is in section 5a of the Broome DNA web page. Only me & one other have filled out the form so far. But, one has not joined until he orders a kit. You may also want to order the free video. The link to order it is in section 5b of the Broome DNA page. -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

BRO*M*s & BRUM*s, I have not emailed the BRUM*s before so let me introduce the DNA project to them in the next paragraph. I assume Broom & Brum are sometimes pronounced the same since there are both BROOMFIELDs & BRUMFIELDs and there are BROOMs, BROMEs, & BRUMMs. I also assume surnames have been shortened to Broom/e & in some cases lengthened from Broom/e, since the taking of surnames in the 1200s. Since some of us with widely varying surnames may descend from the same 1st man to take the surname, those who descend from the same 1st man will have identical Y-chromosomes & thus we need a DNA surname project that includes all the variants, so we can put DNA matches side by side regardless of the spelling. It is to everyone's advantage financially to be in a DNA project since the 25 marker test costs $229 outside of a project & inside of a project it costs $169 -- a savings of $60! We can split off surnames into their own DNA project later. BRO*M*s & BRUM*s, The "Broom" DNA project is ready for people to join. Joining means buying a kit with analysis from Family Tree DNA. If you prefer to buy a kit & analysis from another company, please let me know the test results so we can tell to which BRO*M*/BRUM*s you are kin & aren't. You will probably need to buy the kit & analysis from one company. One company does not process using another's kit. The kits are generally free with analysis. I think FT DNA is the cheapest for 25 markers at $169 + $2 postage. We are finding out that Europeans are so much alike that the 25 marker test is necessary to make sure we have a match, so please order the 25 marker test, unless you just can't afford $171. Be sure who ever is to be tested is willing & will follow the instructions carefully. To see the instructions, go to the BRO*M*/BRUM* DNA web page at: http://freepages.genealogy.RootsWeb.Com/~jwg3/bromdna.htm (if down, the web site is duplicated at: http://members.FortuneCity.Com/jgreen/bromdna.htm) and scroll down to section 4b & click on "Instructions For testing". To join, go to the above web page & scroll down to 4c & click on "Fill out form to join the Bro/u*m* Surname DNA Project". I bought a kit with analysis for one of my Broom first cousin today since that is as close as I can come to getting the Y-chromosome of my maternal grandfather (W.F. Broom Sr. 1864-1939). My 1st cousin & grandpa should be a perfect match. When one of my 4th cousins in MS is tested & I get a perfect match between my 1st & one of my MS 4th cousins, then we descendants of my gt. gt. gt. grandpa Wm. Broom (1753-1826) will know the values of his (Wm. Broom's) 25 markers & all the Broom men in the 2 lines of the 2 testees. I also look forward to knowing if the Brooms who settled in 1768 (a mile away from my gt. gt. gt. gt. grandpa Broom) are kin. From what my grandfather said they would be my 6th cousins. I notice that Bennett Greenspan has named our project, Broom. Sorry. I meant it to be named Bro*m*/Brum*. I guess Broom is simplier. I hope that will be ok with you all. Searching for Bro* & Bru* at FT DNA that had paid for Y chromosome DNA analysis, I find: Broom 1 Broomall 1 Broomhall 1 Brummel 1 The one Broom (above) is surely the one I ordered today, because it was not there yesterday when I checked. I hope the Broomall, Broomhall, & Brummel join our project. All they have to do is email the president (Bennett Greenspan). Email me if you are one of those testees. I will try to get through with answering questions within the next week & unsub from all but my BroomF list. I don't want to bore or infringe on these other lists. If you do not think your surname is related to Broom/e, let me know. We can spin off your surname as its own DNA project with you as its administrator. See http://www.familytreedna.com/ftGroupQRGuide.html#AdvancedPM -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I emailed FT DNA Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:10:12 -0400 to set up a DNA project for BRO*M* & BRUM* where * stands for one or more letters. Then listed these surnames for which Fuller lists lists at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html#SURNAMES which are: Brome BROMFIELD BROMLEY BROOM BROOMBAUGH BROOME BROOMFIELD BROOMHALL (includes Broomall, Broomell) BRUMBAUGH BRUMBELOW BRUMBLE (includes Brumbles) BRUMFIELD BRUMLEY BRUMM BRUMMEL BRUMMETT BRUMMETTE and said "If you don't like putting all the suffixes together [in one DNA project], just leave me with: Brome, Broom, Broome, Brougham, Brumm, Brum." So far they have done nothing. I am leaving shortly for a 5 day trip. I will be back Wed. night, so don't expect any action from me before Thursday. -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 01:25:44 EDT [email protected] writes: >I do descend from James (Jake) Brumfield who >settled in VA around 1670 or so. That should help others who 1) don't know as much & 2) match your DNA. >My grandmother was a direct descendent in the male >line. And, I do have a few male 2nd cousins who >are in the direct male line. Should I contact >them about this? Yes. But maybe I should get the project organized & web pages up so they have something to look at. I recommend you all order the free video tape on FT DNA's DNA projects while you wait on me. Go to: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_video.asp >By the way, family tradition has it that the >earliest Brumfield's in England were from >Cumberland. Interesting. I see in the index to my 1" = 3 mile atlas of Gt. Britain, only 2 places that start with Brum: Brumby & Brumstead. Under Bro*mfield I see: Places named Bromfield in Cumb., Kent, & Shropshire Places named Broomfield in Essex, Kent, & Somerset The suffix "field", makes it sound like the surname derives from living near fields of broom flower. Does anyone sell Broom flower plants. I call it Broom flower less someone think broom sedge (straw). I saw some in the UK when I was there in 1982. From attending the Scottish games, I know only Clan Sutherland accepts BROOMs. I see their clan badge is Butcher's Broom & Cotton Sedge. Two more plants I only know from pictures. The clan demoted BROOM/E from sept to "associated family". I bet my BROOMs are English like your BRUMFIELDs, but Scotland has the only genealogically oriented games useful for introducing kids to "our form of ancestor worship" so I will play at being Scottish until I find out otherwise (which may never happen). >John >San Diego -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Brom*, Broom*, Brum*, I have been getting good questions. Let me share one with you all so I don't have to write separate answers for each list, as people from each list ask similar questions. On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 00:56:28 EDT [email protected] writes: >I am a Brumfield descendent through the female >line (my mother and her mother). Is this of any >use to me, or to others? > >John >San Diego John of San Diego California, Let me draw a tree showing your potential closest kin -- "potential" in the sense that there might be males carrying the Brumfield surname (& Y chromosome) who are as close of kin as shown below. Your Great grandpa Brumfield _____________|_____________ | | Grandma Brumfield your Great uncle Brumfield | | your mom your 1st cousin* once removed B'field | | you your 2nd cousin* Brumfield | your 2nd cousin* once removed B'field | ... * "cousin*" means male cousin * "cousin* Brumfield" means male cousin carrying the Brumfield surname. The testee has to be living & I suppose your Gt. Grandpa Brumfield is dead & maybe the great uncles who are carrying the surname? That leaves you with testing your mom's male maternal 1st cousins or their male kids (or grandkids) carrying the surname. Not having any brothers or living maternal uncles, my maternal 1st cousins were my closest male kin carrying the Broom surname. Your closest kin is 2nd cousins -- just one step more distant than my closest Brooms. In fact I plan to get a 2nd cousin to submit DNA for the Killian DNA project. Killian is my mom's mom's maiden surname which puts me in the same situation for Killian that you are in for Brumfield. You ask "Is this of any use to" you. 1) Do you know where your Brumfields came from in England? If your close cousin's DNA exactly matches a Brumfield (or Brom* or Broom*) in England & that Englishman knows his line back to the 1600s, you know to check his ancestral parish for your earliest known American ancestor. 2) If your cousin's DNA matches some American Brumfield whose early American ancestry is in another county & state than yours, you know that your early American Brumfield ancestry might be in that county. 3) On the other hand, if you don't match some Brumfields, you know that you do not need to look for your Brumfield ancestors among the early records of their ancestral county. So, yes this of any use to you. Agreed? If any of you recommend a different company than Family Tree DNA (FT DNA), let me know now. -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

BROOMs, BROOMEs, BROUGHAMs, BROMFIELDs, BROOMFIELDs, BROMLEYs, BROOMBAUGHs, If no one has considered doing a DNA project for Broom/e &/or Brougham &/or surnames that start with something that may sound like BROOM sounding such as Bromley, I will start one at FT DNA. Starting a surname project has several benefits: 1) It costs $169 + postage for a 25 marker test that is in a surname project vs $209 if not in a surname project. (It seems to have gone up from $209 to $229 for those not in a project.) 2) The value of each of marker is only important & interesting when compared to the marker values of other people carrying the surname. I am co-administrator of the Green/e DNA project which is at: http://freepages.genealogy.RootsWeb.Com/~jwg3/greendna.htm You might want to look at it to see how I handle DNA results to see if you approve. If you have suggestions, let me know. Yesterday I got my 1st cousin to agree to donate his DNA so we will have one Fairfield County SC Broom in the project to compare to. His lineage is: Walter Furman BROOM III b. 1938 Lancaster Co. SC Walter Furman BROOM Jr. b. 1911 Lancaster Co. SC Walter Furman BROOM Sr. b. 1864 Fairfield Co. SC Tho. Furman BROOM MD b. 1834 Fairfield Co. SC Charles BROOM Sr. b. 1784 Fairfield Co. SC William BROOM b. 1753 d. Fairfield Co. SC Charles BROOM d. Fairfield Co. SC The project will be able to prove who we are not kin to & show who we are kin to since we 1st took the surname in the 1200s or 1300s. BROUGHAMs, Do you pronounce your surname BROOM or how? My grandfather b. 1864 said our BROOMs were originally BROUGHAMs, but I've never seen any evidence of that or even heard of anyone else with that legend no matter how distantly kin they are to my Brooms. Also please let me know who else is interested in the DNA testing. One will have to pay for their own test. I can only pay for one test -- my closest relative with my Brooms' Y chromosome. The testee must: 1) be male because only males have a Y chromosome. (The Y chromosome is what makes them a male.) 2) be the son of a son of a son of a Broom for as far back as is known. Usually this would mean the testee would carry the Broom/e Brougham Bromley ... surname. So, the testee must be carrying a Broom/e, Brougham, Bromley, ... Y chromosome. Ladies & BROOM male descendants not carrying the surname (Y chromosome) can participate by getting their BRO*M* kin to be tested & perhaps paying for the test if they can find no relative who will pay for his own test. I think it will be very interesting if any Brougham Ys match any Broom/e Ys. We should also invite & include BRUMs, BROM/Es & any other surname that is phonetically the same as BROOM since spelling is unimportant since the DNA tests go back to the 1200s & 1300s when men took up surnames. BROMLEY, BROMFIELD, BROOMFIELD, BROOMBAUGH, BROOMHALL, & such should be included since our surname may have been shortened from those longer surnames since the 1200s. Also they may have been BROOMs of some spelling who added more (e.g. ley, field, hall) to their BROOM surname to differentiate themselves from their kin. Since Broom is such a common place name in the UK, we can expect many sets of BROOMs regardless of how the name is spelled since many unrelated men probably took the surname for the flower, Plantagenets, or place names. Are there other reasons for the surname? Anyway, I expect we will get many participants and learn what spellings & groups descend from the same original BROOMs (regardless of how the original BROOM spelled the surname he created & took up). If any surnames I've mentioned want to create a separate surname project, let me know & I remove them from being listed as part of this project, as soon as you start your project. I think it would be better to keep them in one project so we can group together haplotypes (values of markers) that match regardless of surname. I checked each of the archives of the above lists for DNA & do not find that string, so I guess no one is talking of starting a DNA surname project. I have not taken time to invite the BRUM* variants at this time. I think they should be part of this. These are the ones I see on Fuller's list of lists: BRUMBAUGH BRUMBELOW BRUMBLE (includes Brumbles) BRUMFIELD (includes Broomfield, Bromfield) BRUMLEY BRUMM BRUMMEL BRUMMETT BRUMMETTE Surely BRUMM is a variant of BROOM & BRUMLEY is a variant of BROMLEY, but are Brummel, Brummett, & Brumble, variants of Broom? I suppose they are but subscribing to all those Brum lists has surprised & overwhelmed me for the moment. -- James W. Green III 172 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Looking for the family of Thomas Christopher Brougham, my great-grandfather. His parents were John and Ellen Brougham of Saratoga Springs, New York. Thomas was in the 7th Iowa Cavalry during the Civil War, stationed out of Omaha, Nebraska and he eventually owned land near Council Bluffs, Iowa and died there in 1894. Looking for any connections to his siblilngs or to his descendants including his second marriage to Mary Brophy in 1882 and their children. Descendants of John Brougham 1 John Brougham b: Bet. 1806 - 1816 in County Mayo, Ireland d: Bef. 1880 in USA .. +Ellen Brougham b: Abt. 1805 in Ireland ......... 2 Thomas Christopher Brougham b: December 30, 1836 in Saratoga Springs, New York d: November 25, 1894 in Weston, Iowa ............. +Margaret Kennedy b: Abt. 1853 in Sandusky, Ohio m: June 11, 1871 in Saint Columban, Chillicothe, Livingston, Missouri d: February 1880 in Council Bluffs, IA .................... 3 Anna Margaret Brougham b: April 25, 1872 in Weston, Iowa d: February 26, 1959 in Sioux City, Iowa ........................ +Simon Vincent O'Connor b: August 20, 1867 in Hastings County, Ontario, Canada m: October 28, 1891 in Neola, Iowa d: November 08, 1950 in Sioux City, Iowa ............................... .................... 3 John Brougham b: May 15, 1874 d: Bef. 1880 .................... 3 Mary Catherine Brougham b: January 23, 1876 in Weston, Iowa d: 1961 in Danbury, Iowa ........................ +Martin Boyle b: 1873 m: May 02, 1900 in Danbury, Iowa d: 1936 in Danbury, Iowa ............................... 4 Tom Boyle ................................... +Bernice Brenner m: February 08, 1927 in Mapleton, Iowa .................... 3 James Patrick Brougham b: February 05, 1878 in Weston, Iowa d: March 31, 1952 in Council Bluffs, Iowa ........................ +Anna Burns b: May 05, 1883 in Washington Township, Iowa m: April 11, 1910 in St. Patrick's Church, Neola, Iowa d: July 28, 1960 in Council Bluffs, IA ............................... 4 Joseph David Brougham b: July 06, 1913 in Neola, Iowa d: June 03, 1963 in Sterling, Colorado Residence: 1952 Lexington, NE ................................... +Louise Frances Naviaux b: October 05, 1912 in Lexington, Nebraska m: October 01, 1938 in Omaha, Nebraska d: April 28, 1988 in Denver, Colorado ............................... 4 Bernard E. Brougham b: Private d: 1961 Residence: 1952 Omaha, NE ................................... +Shirley Arrick d: September 2001 ............................... 4 James Patrick Brougham, Jr. b: Private Residence: 1960 New York ................................... +Margo ? ............................... 4 Margaret Ellen Brougham b: Private Residence: 1952 McClelland, IA ................................... +Thomas White d: 1951 ............................... *2nd Husband of Margaret Ellen Brougham: ................................... +Harry Christo m: Aft. 1951 ............................... 4 Philip Francis Brougham b: Private d: Private Residence: 1965 Omaha, NE ................................... +Elizabeth Josephine Mohatt b: September 30, 1927 d: August 1999 in Omaha, NE ............................... 4 Ruth Anne Brougham b: Private d: 2001 in California Residence: 1952 Council Bluffs, IA ................................... +Lloyd Bjork ............................... 4 Thomas Richard Brougham b: Private d: Aft. 1952 Residence: 1952 Council Bluffs, IA ................................... +Rosemond Christiansen .................... 3 Thomas Brougham b: September 29, 1879 d: Bef. 1880 ......... *2nd Wife of Thomas Christopher Brougham: ............. +Mary Brofy b: in Queenstown, Ireland m: 1882 in Weston, Iowa .................... 3 Patrick Joseph Brougham b: March 09, 1883 .................... 3 Thomas C. Brougham b: December 06, 1884 .................... 3 George Brougham b: July 04, 1886 .................... 3 Honora Brougham b: July 20, 1887 ........................ +Charles McCarthy d: 1915 ............................... 4 Clare McCarthy ................................... +? Crowell ............................... 4 Edward McCarthy ............................... 4 Thomas McCarthy .................... 3 Elizabeth Brougham b: July 05, 1889 .................... 3 Julia Brougham b: April 1890 .................... 3 William Brougham b: May 30, 1894 ......... 2 William P. Brougham b: January 10, 1838 ......... 2 Sary Jane Brougham b: May 27, 1840 ......... 2 John Brougham b: April 06, 1841 in New York ............. +Julia Brougham b: Abt. 1855 in New York m: Bef. 1880 ......... 2 James Henry Brougham b: 1844 ............. +Hattie Connery m: July 31, 1871 in Grundy, Illinois ......... 2 Famas P. Brougham b: January 30, 1845 ......... 2 Allicia M. Brougham b: November 05, 1850 ............. +Matt Cunningham m: December 03, 1868 in Pottawattamie, Iowa

Listers; My gggrandfather was Samuel Brougham FADDY (b.1817 India), son of Samuel FADDY and Elizabeth BACKHOUSE. I believe Elizabeth is the daughter or granddaughter of Mary HIL(L)COAT (dau. of Elizabeth BROUGHAM and William HIL(l)COAT) and William BACKHOUSE (m. 1775 Newcastle). I am trying to learn anything at all about Elizabeth Backhouse FADDY. If any of you have any tidbits, would you be so good as to get back to me. Cheers, Diane Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada