This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeffanddi2 Surnames: Pearson, Brougham, Chadwick, Swenson, Abrahams Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, William Pearson B 1827 Married Elizabeth Armstrong is the son of Thomas Pearson & Mary Brougham Married 1813 Wigton, Cumberland. Jane Elizabeth Pearson B 1855 Wigton, Married Nathaniel Chadwick B 1827 Milford Derbyshire on 18th August 1881. They had a son Samuel Percy Bott Chadwick B 1885 Brisbane, Queensland Australia M Ellen Christina (Svensson) Swenson B 1889 Sugar Bag Gully, Queensland Australia, they married on 28th June 1911. They had my mother Norma Hazel Chadwick b 1928 and she married my father Gordon Abrahams in 1949. I am her son Jeff and she is the last remaining direct member of her family still alive today. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidBrougham Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/40.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: At Brougham village near Penrith, Cumbria, England, Brougham is pronounced broom. So they refer to Brougham hall and Brougham castle in this way. I come from a group of Brougham's who were based in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England - here we pronounce it more like brawm as in prawn but swap the p for a b and the n for a m. I think broom and brawm are the common pronunciations in the UK. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnMartin68 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/53.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: More information has come to light since my last posting in 2008. William and Elizabeth Moss, our great grandparents, resided in Sherbrooke S. for most of their lives. They had nine children including our grandmother, Martha. William died February 1925 and his death certificate states he was buried in Maberly. Elizabeth died August 4, 1937 and her obit says the service was held at the United Church in Maberly. We have been unable to find where either Elizabeth or William are buried and have checked the three cemeteries in Maberly, Laidley, Rokeby and Bollingbrook. They may be buried in Brooke Cemetery but we have been unable to contact the person in charge of this cemetery to check the records. Any input anyone has or if you are related to William and Elizabeth Moss would you please contact us. The maiden name of Elizabeth was Brougham also spelled Broughen, Broughan or Brohan. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorothyStewart43 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/40.5.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have BROUGHAM family in my line who lived in Stoke. Please contact me to see if we connect as I only have the names of their children up to the 1911 census. Dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathyFS Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/58/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following list of Broughen's is from the 1861 census for Ramsay, Lanark, Ontario: Nancy Broughen, b 1813 in Ireland James Broughen, b 1820 in Ireland Mary Broughen, b 1845 in Canada West Nancy Broughen, b 1846 in Canada West E. Broughen, b 1848 in Canada West Sarah Broughen, b 1849 in Canada West William Broughen, b 1851 in Canada West Patrick Broughen, b 1852 in Canada West James Broughen, b 1854 in Canada West The Nancy that was b in 1813 had a maiden name of Hughes. She d 31 Mar 1888 and is buried at St. John's Angilican Cemetery in Innisville, Lanark, Ontario. And just to add more confusion, Nancy has been listed as Nancy on some documents and Ann/Annie Hughes on others (it's my understanding that Nancy and Ann were interchangable for the Irish). If any of the above rings a bell with anyone, I would really like to hear from you. Many thanks, Kathy Flynn Simons Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: TeresaBrougham Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/1.5.6.7.10.17.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Update: T.C. Brougham's father was John Brougham born around 1802 in County Westmeath, Ireland (noted on headstone). He died in 1879 and is buried in St. Joeseph's Catholic cemetery in Council Bluffs, IA. His wife, Ellen (maiden name is still unknown) was also born in Westmeath around 1802. Although there isn't a headstone for here, we believe she is buried next to John. What I am still seeking are any records from Westmeath as to John's parents, and also Ellen's maiden name. Any in further info would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Catherine. There is a book that was published in 1892 and writen by the Rev,J.R.Kayss. He was the vicar at Dalton (Nr Wigton?). Its called "The Monumental Inscriptions of the Parish Church and Churchyard and The Congregational Burial Ground. Wigton Cumberland".A couple of years ago I managed to get a copy on a CD. I bought it on the internet. It list all the inscriptions on the gravestones as they were in 1892. The congregation burial ground opened in about 1853 , up till then burials took place in the churchyard.There are a few grave stones belonging to the Pearsons. One reads as follows. In memory of Joseph Pearson of Wigton who died Nov,r 27, 1803 age 50 years, and Margaret his wife who died Jan,y 6, 1830, age 70. Also of Thomas and Robert their sons, who died in their infancy. And of William their son who died at Glasgow, April 22nd 1840 age 47 years. Also Mary the wife of John Pearson who died Feb,y 18th 1850 aged 69 years. The above John Pearson died Sept, 23, 1871, age 86 years. Interred in this cemetery. That`s all I know about William? He could have been married? The Thomas who died was the 1st Thomas b1783, and Robert was born in 1802. (died 1804) Another stone reads as follows. In memory of John son of Thomas and Mary Pearson of Wigton who died Oct,r 20th 1840, age 8 years. The above Thomas Pearson died March 3, 1847, aged 54 years. I went to Wigton a couple of years ago. All the gravestones were take down and layed flat in front of the church in about 1950. The vicar at the time was Rev, Ford, who was the father of Anna Ford the newsreader. She went to school in Wigton when she was young. I managed to find Joseph,s stone although the top and bottom sections were missing. Thomas,s stone I could not find. By the way son Joseph b1790 was parish clerk from 1823 until he went to Newcastle on Tyne in 1826. His brother Thomas then took the job until his death in 1847, then Thomas,s son William became parish clerk Thanks Dave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathduckworth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dave, I'm trying to retrace my steps but I didn't have a date of birth for Joseph so I may have taken a wrong turn. It's so long since I got this information from a web site giving the transcripts of Wigton Parish records I can't even find the web site anymore. Sorry if I was misleading. What happended to Thomas's twin William? This is such a common name in the area. Catherine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Pearson/Brougham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Catherine. Im most interested in you saying that Thomas Pearson,s grandfather was Johan Pearson b1724. Thomas was born in 1793 (a twin) son of Joseph Pearson and Margaret Turner. I have the marrage record of Joseph and Margaret. It shows the following. Joseph Pearson Batchelor of this Parish Age 29 and Margaret Turner Singlewoman Age 23. Married in this church by Banns this First day of January 1783. Working back over this would make Joseph born 1753. Joseph died in 1803 Age 50. Again working backover this makes him born in 1753. This is where I am stuck. I can,t trace him father with certainty. The following are possible. International Genealogical Index Joseph Pearson Christening: 20 SEP 1750 Wigton, Cumberland, England Father John. JOSEPH PEARSON OR WHITE Christening: 13 DEC 1752 Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England. Father Joseph. Mother Ann White. Joseph Pearson Christening: 08 JUL 1753 All Saints, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England Father Richard. Joseph Pearson Christening: 02 OCT 1753 Alston, Cumberland, England Father Joseph. The two that fit the date 1753 are the last two but I can`t find a link to prove it. I,ve often thought that Richard from Cockermouth may be Joseph,s father? Have you found other info, to link Thomas with a John (grandfather) ? I would be most interested. Thanks Dave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Brougham/Pearson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Catherine. Details of Mary Brougham,s death. 1885. Death Certificate details. Registration District - Wigton. Sub-district - Wigton. In the County of Cumberland. When and where died. Fourth September 1885. New Street. Wigton U.S.D. Name and Surname. Mary Brougham. Sex. Female. Age 90 Years. Occupation. Widow of Thomas Pearson a Parish Clerk. Cause of death. Senile Decay - Certified by Robert Tiffin M.D. Signature, description and residence of imformant. Martha Askew present at death. Waverton. When registered. Fifth September 1885. Signature of registar. Thomas Moore. registrar. Note. In the 1881 census. Martha Askew is shown as Head. Widow. Age 68. Born Wigton. Dwelling - Waverton. Cumberland. I,ve found her c 14-3-1813 Wigton. She was Martha Barnes. Father Robert Barnes. Mother Jane Barnfather. She married Amos Askew on 31-8-1836. Amos was born <1782>. This would make him a lot older (<31 years>) than Martha? In the 1871 Census Mary was visiting her daughter Jane (who had married Thomas Irvin on the 8th June 1850 in Wigton.) The other visitor was Mary,s grandaughter Mary Jane Elizabeth Pearson Age 19 who was born in Wigton in 1851 to Mary b1829)- the unmarried daughter of Thomas Pearson and Mary Pearson (nee Brougham). I also do most of my family history on the internet and I have not been able to find Mary in the 1881 census? I started by creating my tree on a data base called Family tree Make. It was only later that I joined Genes Re-United and I have part of my tree on there. Could you please tell me your connection with Mary Brougham? Thanks Dave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathduckworth Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: HI Dave, Thank you for the info. I'm working mostly online as I work full time and I'm not local to Cumbria or the North East so all information is greatfully received. Any idea who the informant was on the death certificate for Mary? I have her as a visitor with her grand-daughter Mary Jane Elizabeth Pearson (also a visitor)in Middlesborough in 1871 but haven't traced her in 1881 yet. Thank you so much, Catherine Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Mary Pearson (nee, Brougham) died age 90 - on 4th September 1885. Place of death New Street Wigton. Thanks Dave. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: More info on Mary Brougham. Christening 4th Oct,1795 Christening details obtained from Carlisle record office as follows. Warwick, Cumberland. Christening 4th Oct,1795. Mary daughter of Thomas Broome a soldier in the 117th Reg,t of foot, and Mary his wife (late Jon) 1841 Census. New Street, Wigton, Cumberland. Thomas Pearson Age 45 Parish Clerk Born Wigton Mary Pearson Age 45 Margaret Age 20 Thomas Age 15 Painters Ap, William Age 14 Mary Age 11 Robert Age 6 Hiram Age 3 1851 Census. New Street, Wigton Cumberland. Mary Pearson Head Widow Age56. Born Warwick Cumberland . Mary Daug, U Age 21 Born Wigton Cumberland William Son U Age 24 Parish Clerk Born Wigton Cumberland Robert son U Age 16 Apprentice Taylor Born Wigton Cumberland Hiram Abiff Son U Age 12 Scholar Born Wigton Cumberland 1861 Census. Kings Head Yard, Wigton. Mary Pearson Head Widow Age66. Born Warwick Cumberland. Mary Daug, U Age 31 Dress maker Born Wigton Cumberland. Hiram Abiff Son U Age 22 Cabinet maker and harmonium manufacturer. Born Wigton Cumberland. Mary Jane Elizabeth G/Daug, Age 9 Scholar Born Wigton Cumberland (Daughter Mary`s child) 1871 Census. 49 Worsley Street, Ormesby. Nr, Middlesbrough Yorkshire. Mary Pearson Visitor Widow Age76. Born Warwick Cumberland. Mary Jane Elizabeth Visitor U Age 19 Born Wigton Cumberland (G/Daughter of Mary) Thomas Irvin Head Age 41 Born Wigton Cumberland Jane Irvin (nee Pearson) wife Age 49 Born Wigton Cumberland (Daughter of Mary) Sorry its a bit jumbled. Thanks Dave Pearson. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: davejanpearson Surnames: Brougham/Pearson Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I,m related to Mary Brougham and Thomas Pearson they were my G/G/G/G/Grandparents. Mary was born in Warwick. Nr Carlisle.Cumberland in 1795. Her parents were Thomas Broome or Brougham and Elizabeth Jon. I went to Carlisle and searched the records a couple of years ago and found the following info, In 1795 at the time of his daughters (Mary Broome or Brougham) birth 29th Nov, Thomas was a soldier in the 117th Regiment of foot. The name Brougham has been included and passed down with different generations of the Pearson family. My grandfather was Cyril Maud Brougham Pearson and both his father and grandfather were named Joseph Henry Brougham Pearson. Thomas Pearson (weaver and Parish clerk died in 1847. Mary died age about 85 years old. I would be pleased if anyone can add to this. Thanks Dave Pearson. Living Nr Middlesbrough. England. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathduckworth Surnames: pearson, brougham Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/48.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have Thomas Pearson married to Mary in Wigton living in New St. 1841. Mary is a widow but still in New St. 1851.I have only found 8 children so far. Thomas was a parish Clerk as was his son William. Is this Mary Brougham? History of Wigton by T W Carrick is an enjoyable and informative book for anyone interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pbwyly Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.2.4.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm sorry that I cannot help - I would need much more detail to be able to find a match in the C19. You are the only person that I know who was born - or had even been - in Managatang. Many years ago - late 40s, early 50s - someone did a spoof radio broadcast on a 10" record - 'newsreader' reading the news with a 'racing commentator' breaking in every 15 seconds or so with 'they're racing in Managatang'. It was a hoot. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vk3pjb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.2.4.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am not sure however my grandmother , Uncle and Aunty ran the rail way station in Annuello . aunty Lilly, the Wemen post office. I was born and bred in Manangatang, regards Peter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwg3 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/55/mb.ashx Message Board Post: BROUGHAMs & Peter Wyly, I found it hard to find your (Peter's) & my postings to the Brougham Bulletin board made this month because they were in reply to a long string of postings starting 23 Jan. 2003. They were under the subject "Lord Henry Brougham family members". I hope I don't get in trouble for answering Peter's concern about the cost of testing. I have good news to encourage genetic genealogy. 8 Mar 2009 8:24PM GMT Peter said to the BROUGHAM board: "It [DNA testing] is, incidentally, much more expensive in this country - the last quote I had was $US450.", so I emailed the help desk at Family Tree DNA & asked how much more it costs for someone in the UK to test with Family Tree DNA of Houston Texas. What she said means it only costs only $2 more. Here is what she said: >From : [email protected] >To : [email protected] >Subject: RE: Cost of Brit taking 37 marker test (ID:295433) >Date : Fri, Mar 13, 2009 10:06 AM > >Hello James, > >As long as he orders within the project, the test would >be $149 $6 shipping. > >Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or >need additional assistance. Have a great day. > >Ashley Coursey >Family Tree DNA >713.868.1438 >http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com I recommend Family Tree DNA (FT DNA) because they PERSONALLY answer emails (don't use FORM letters) & they offer a wider variety of tests, are very accurate, & we are told they have more surname projects than other DNA companies and many more test subjects to compare your DNA to & matching DNA is the genealogical purpose of Y-DNA testing. Compare SMGF.org It is free, but you have to turn in your pedigree with all ancestors back to births before 1850. That is easy for most genealogists, but some may not be prepared & it is slow because they check your info & still you need to be tested by FT DNA. Ancestry.com is cheaper than FT DNA, but not if you have to start over at FT DNA because Ancestry.com does not offer all the tests you want later & does not have the multitude of participants you need to match your DNA against. I am the group administrator for the BROOM project at FT DNA, but I make no money from DNA testing. I will answer your emails. I was told my BROOMs were originally BROUGHAMs but I see no record of that, so I want to see if our BROOM DNA matches BROUGHAMs' DNA. Peter said in his above posting that BROUGHAM is pronounced BROOM so I think BROOM may be an Americanization of BROUGHAM. If you have questions or concerns, email me at [email protected] To get tested: 1) go to http://familytreedna.com/ 2) click on "PROJECTS", 3) scroll down to the 1st table which is labeled "Y-DNA SURNAME PROJECTS" 4) click on "B (427)", perhaps it will be a larger number than 427. 427 just means there are 427 surname projects at FTDNA currently. 4) click on "Broom" which accepts BROUGHAMs. 5) scroll down & order the Y-DNA37 test. That will suffice to determine which BROUGHAMs are kin to which BROUGHAMs (& if kin to BROOM/Es). I do not advise any lesser test. Any other path at FT DNA will cause you to pay $259 ($110 more than within a project) for the 37 marker test. -- James W. Green III 285 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180 803-635-9236 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pbwyly Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.2.4.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think you've got quite a bit of researching to do! I don't supose your grandparents had anything to do with Mildura, did they? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vk3pjb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.2.4.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The plot thickens, I will try to get my grandfathers birth certificate, and get more of family names. There is a shroud of secrecy on my Grand fathers side,, .The worst thing he did was marry my Grandmother whose ancesters came to Australia in Early 1800s to mid 1800s. She had Prussian ancestry and ancesters came here to Bendigo during the gold era and just before. my grandmothers ancesters were BOIK, Gaarsch Moos and other exotic names Not forgetting Knobloch. About every ten years we have a Knobloch and decendant reunion in Australia. normally though at Castlemaine. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.