I sent this to the new Brougham group and thought to send it to the list as well. I did not want anyone to miss it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Jackson Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 10:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Brougham] Brougham origins I found this interesting about the origins of the name Brougham. https://www.houseofnames.com/brougham-family-crest Best wishes, Jim "Pops" Jackson -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#2): https://groups.io/g/Brougham/message/2 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/71024566/4141277 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/Brougham/leave/7580420/1969248389/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Is there interest here in migrating go groups.io? Please let us know. Jim -----Original Message----- From: jaliddle--- via BROUGHAM [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:01 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [BROUGHAM] Demise of Rootsweb Other lists I subscribe to have moved to Groups.io Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"

Other lists I subscribe to have moved to Groups.io Regards, John Liddle Backwell, North Somerset, UK - "Where the cider apples grow"

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: buchdaven Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kevin, thanks for responding! I'll give you a call in the next day or so, if that works all right with your schedule. Best, Sarah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gloria5399 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James, Thanks for the exciting news, I'll jump on that and do the test you mentioned. My Mother (Pamela Jean Adams) is the last in our line, my Surname is "Jewett" and that's another story all together, lol. I am the only Grandchild between their two Daughters, my Aunt (Sheryl Lynn Adams) never had any children so I'm it. I've always been curious to the truth of the Family history since most of my senior Family members has been weird about it so all I have is what I can filter out by reading between the lines at times. Will give you a call and say hello. My home number is: (210)254-9251 I live at: 21511 Thunder Basin, San Antonio, TX, 78261. From my understanding, the Broom name was "Englishised" at some point for one branch of the Clan to enter English politics. There's an old cartoon on the internet about lord Henry Brougham, in the caption it says "anyone need a Broom?" this was to denote the root of his name in an effort to label him as a sympathetic Scotsman to English rule who's goal was to undermine the English Monarchy/Empire. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gloria5399 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ms. Davenport, My apologies for the lengthy delay in replying. I'm a bit slow on the draw when it comes to remembering all the account User ID's and Passwords so I opened another account by accident so the other posting is the same person (cucobird and Gloria5399). I'm not sure how much help I can be to you but I'll do my best. Please call my home when possible at: (210)254-9251 or my cell at: (210)385-7205. Kevin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: buchdaven Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cucobird has changed user name to Gloria5399? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwg3 Surnames: Broom, Brougham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cucobird, You mention "DNA never lies". Is your surname Brougham? Are you male? I wish one of you Mr. Broughams would do a Y-DNA37 marker test at FTDNA.com. It is $20 cheaper if you order a test in a surname project. The Broom project is the only project at FTDNA that welcomes Broughams. I find only one Brougham has done a test at FTDNA. I do not know if it is autosomal, mitochrondria, or Y-DNA. My maternal grandfather Furman Broom (1864-1939) said we were originally Broughams. Here is my contact info: -- James W. Green-R-Z11 III 285 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180-6975 803-635-9236 [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: buchdaven Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm responding to the post from cucobird, as well as the original post. Catherine (in the original post) was one of at least twelve children, possibly more. Her parents were Michael Edward Brougham (~1815-1892) and Maria Burrell (~1831-1893). One of her siblings was, it seems, the g-grandfather mentioned by cucobird, who went by the alias of Lynn J Adams. This man was also my g-grandfather, making cucobird and myself second cousins. Cucobird: I would like to connect with you, as I have some information about Adams/Brougham that may be of interest to you, and I think you might have some for me as well; I am attempting to piece together his back-story, before he married Rita, and it's a tough line to follow, as I'm sure you know. Your grandfather, Ed, was my grandmother's brother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cucobird Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/34.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Saw your question and thought I'd toss in my 2 cents. What your cousin mentioned is correct. My Grandfather (Mothers side)is a spitting image of Lord H. Brougham. I to heard from Grandma that Henry Brougham invented the Brougham Coach and defended Queen Caroline. I was also told by my Grandmother (Jean Pearl Adams) that my Great Grandfather emigrated from Canada in the early 1920's and practiced Law in Washington State (USA) and had one son, my Grandpa. My Great Grandfather was later killed as a result of a trial he was prosecuting against, a crooked contractor was gougeing the government. My Great Grandfather was walking out of his office and outside the front door the contractor was waiting and shot my Great Grandfather in cold blood, he claimed he was reaching for a gun but Grandpa was only pulling a lemon drop out of his vest pocket, the contractor was let off as "an act of self defence" it destroyed my Great Grandmother financially since they left the Brougham family ! behind. So apparently, the reason my Great Grandpa emigrated to the US and changed his name from Brougham to Adams was a result of some dirty arms/gun deal that he was involved in some years prior. During WWII, my Grandfather (Edward Croy Adams) served as a pilot and flew cargo planes in "The Hump" and during his service, my Grandmother got some letter/notice from the British government regarding the Brougham estate and if they intended to take posession of said estate. Grandma said they declined and sent the notice back to England, Grandpa was raised by a Step-Father who was a carpenter so he did that to support his new Family. My mother has a stack of old photos of Great Grandpa and his Irish Wife who had red hair wearing some incredible clothes and uniforms, I can't recall her name but apparently their marriage caused a stir, I don't have much on my Great Grandpa's full name since it's all second hand info from my mother who I rarely talk with. As for myself, I was born in Sacramento, CA (where Grandpa lived most of his life) and I served 26 years in the Army as an Infantryman/Sniper, went to 2 wars and did my duty, I have 2 daughters and only married one time and still married to the same beautiful Lady from Spain. In the past I see some people saying that no offspring of H. Brougham are out there, funny how many people have similar stories, just remember that DNA never lies. If you ever read H. Broughams' speaches, you can tell he was long-winded, my Wife is always saying how I just "blah, blah, blah...) lol. I can tell you that my Grandpa was a great person, he was sort of short and thin, he was well respected around the Sacramento Executive Airport where he did Aerial Photography and did part time work at the Sacramento Bee as a type setter. I divulge all this in hopes you're able to connect any loose ends, hope it finds you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jwg3 Surnames: Brougham, Broom, Broome, McBroom, Green Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/40.7.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: rickbrou92 (Richard Brougham) & everyone subscribed or reading, Your info on how to pronounce Brougham is very interesting to me. My mom was born a Broom & said her father b. 1864 said our name was originally Brougham. I can find no evidence of this, but a Y-DNA match with Broughams would be great evidence. Most Brooms & Broomes & McBrooms in the Broom DNA project at FTDNA.com match. No Brougham has ever tested their Y-DNA. I keep hoping one will test their DNA one day. The ideal place to test Y-DNA is FTDNA and the ideal starting test is Y-DNA37 (37 marker analysis). It can be upgraded later & their are sales on upgrading about twice a year. The shipping & handling charge is $5 within the USA & $7 outside the USA. If you want more info email me directly at [email protected] & I can be more helpful. Incidently, I am pleased to report we now know our Brooms are DF63. That is our deepest SNP (i.e. deepest clade -- y-haplogroup within the tree of all humans). I am very proud we know it this precisely. By contrast my Greens are Z11 Greens so I have incorporated that into my surname below. To keep from boring, I will stop here. Sincerely, James W. Green-R-Z11 III 285 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180-6975 803-635-9236 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rickbrou92 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/40.7.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: the pronunciation of the name, generally around Greater Manchester UK,is "Bro-am" the "O" pronounced as in the exclamation "oh!".my mother,a none Brougham, always pronounced it "Brome", which gives an indication of how pronunciation can change, even in one family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmneale Surnames: Brougham, Torney Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/52.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hellooo, I have a fair bit of information from John Torney & Margaret Brougham's descendants (my line), however it is Richard Brougham that I can't find. If you have any information on him I'd would be very pleased to hear about him. John Torney & Margaret Brougham had 9 children; here's the names: John (1855-1915) - my G Grandfather Ellen (1856-1935) Nicholas (1858-1897) Perhaps a Thomas (1859-) Richard (1860-1938) Hugh (1862-1862) Rose Ann (1863-1863) Hugh (1864-1923) Edward (1867-1911) Cheers Cynthia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: collinsr41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/52.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Cynthia, Don't have a lot on this line. Margaret Brougham born abt 1829 at Flagmount,County Kilkenny, Ireland and died 31 Aug 1909 at Broomfield, Creswick, Victoria, Australia. Margaret married John Torney 21 June 1854 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. John Torney born abt. 1839 County Down, Ireland and died 13 April 1892 at Broomfield, Creswick, Victoria, Australia. Children: Ellen Torney born 1856 at Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Hugh Torney born 1862 at Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Rose Ann born 1863 at Ballarat, Victoria, Australia Don't have anything on Ellen Brougham at present. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

BROUGHAMs & BROOM/Es of all spellings, The sale on Y-DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA.com was continued & does not end until tonight Th. 25 Apr. 2013 at midnight central time (1 AM 26 Apr. Eastern Time). To see the tests on sale, go to the Broom DNA project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Broom and scroll down to see which tests are on sale. I recommend you test a male BROUGHAM, BROOM, or BROOME kinsman of yours with Y-DNA37 or Y-DNA67 while on sale. I expect the sale will actually last until at least 8:30 AM Central time Friday 26 April. It could be extended further. Just check the web page I just cited. See the public results at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Broom/default.aspx?section=ycolorized If you are considering doing something other than Y-DNA testing, during this sale, we should talk. Phone me or email me. -- James W. Green-R-Z5 III, Broom DNA project administrator 285 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180-6975 803-635-9236 [email protected] ____________________________________________________________ 1 Weird spice that FIGHTS diabetes Can this unusual &#34;super spice&#34; control your blood sugar and fight diabetes&#63 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5178ede14d1bb6de127b7st04duc

BROUGHAMs & BROOM/Es of all spellings, There is a good sale on Y-DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA.com. To see the tests on sale, go to the Broom DNA project at: http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Broom and scroll down to see which tests are on sale. I recommend you test a male BROUGHAM, BROOM, or BROOME kinsman of yours with Y-DNA37 or Y-DNA67 while on sale. The sale ends 11:59 PM CDT tomorrow Mon. Apr. 22. See the public results at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Broom/default.aspx?section=ycolorized If you are considering doing something other than Y-DNA testing, during this sale, we should talk. Phone me or email me. -- James W. Green-R-Z5 III 285 Agnew Road Winnsboro SC 29180-6975 803-635-9236 [email protected] ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5174599e1d519599e3f4ast02duc

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DorothyStewart43 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/59.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, mine came from England . Dorothy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cmneale Surnames: Brougham Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brougham/59.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dorothy, My GG Grandmother was Margaret Brougham (c1823-1909) born Co. Kilkenny, died Australia Would love to get in contact if you recognise her name. Cheers Cynthia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.