Does anyone know the exact meaning of the word assee as used in old land records? Is it a shortened form of assignee? James..., assee to Tom... is entitled to 400 acres...

Maura, Here is a portion of the 3 page bio on Benjamin Champney.... Genealogy and history of representative citizens of the commonwealth of Massachusetts Boston: New England Historical Pub. Co., 1902 Pg 163 BENJAMIN CHAMPNEY, artist, is a native of New Ipswich, N.H., but almost if not all his early ancestors in New England were of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Born November 20, 1817, son of Benjamin, Sr., and Rebecca (Brooks) Champney, he is a descendant in the seventh generation of Richard Champney, who came to New England from Lancashire in 1635, and settled at Cambridge. Pg 164 Benjamin Champney, Sr., b. in 1764, son of Ebenezer and Abigail (Trowbridge) Champney, studied law in his father's office after the removal to Groton, and subsequently engaged in practice in that town, returning, however, in 1792 to New Ipswich. For twnety years he was the president of the Hillsborough County bar. He was one of the original proprietors in 1804 of the first cotton factory of New Ipswich. Esquire Champney, as he was known, was well read in English literature and in his profession. Uniformly courteous and kindly, he was a public-spirited citizen and much respected. For a number of years he was postmaster of New Ipswich, succeeding his father in charge of the office. He belonged to the Masonic fraternity, and was connected with the State Militia. For years he led the choir of the Congregational church at New Ipswich. He d. in May, 1826, at about sixty-three years of age. His first wife, Mercy Parker, d. in 1795, leaving one son, his namesake, who d. in 1813, and one daughter, Sarah, who d. in 1864. His second wife, Rebecca Brooks, whom he m. in October, 1809, d. in August, 1849. She was the daughter of Solomon Brooks of Lincoln, Mass. Seven children were b. to Benjamin and Rebecca B. Champney, namely: Edward Walter and George Mather, both deceased; Maria Louisa, who m. Francis K. Craigin; Ellen Douglas, who m. John Clough; Benjamin, the artist; Mary Jane, who d. in the eighteenth year of her age; and Henry Trowbridge, of New York City. Esquire Champney having been unfortunate in business, Mrs. Rebecca Champney at his death was left with but slender means for the support of her family. Brave and diligent, she brought up her children, giving them a fair education and training them to be useful. When Benjamin was ten years old, he went to Lebanon, eighty miles away, to live with an aunt, Mrs. Bugbee, and her husband, who had already adopted his younger sister, Mary Jane. At Lebanon he was soon set to work in a cotton-mill owned by his uncle. For twelve weeks in the winter season he attended the district school, whose methods of teaching, as he recollects, were conducive to independence of thought and character. His sister Mary Jane, like himself, had a natural taste for drawing, and together they passed many happy hours with "stubs of pencils and scraps of paper," in this form of art giving expression to their ideas. Pg 165 Mr Champney is a resident of Woburn, but has his winter studio in Boston on Bromfield Street. He was married July 6, 1853, to Miss Mary Caroline Brooks, a distant kinswoman, who was born at Mount Pleasant, Ind. and was a daughter of Daniel and Miriam Brooks. Mrs. Mary Brooks Champney died in 1876. She was the mother of four children, namely: Kensett, born December 15, 1854; Grace, born in 1856, who died at the age of six and a half years; Edith, born in 1859, and died in 1861; and Alice, born December 14, 1869. June 26, 1879, Mr Champney married Mrs. Margaret Stevenson, a native of Scotland. She died in November 1895. Kensett, Mr Champney's only son, is a coffee planter in Guatemala, Central America. Alice Champney was married in 1896 to Arthur C. Wyer, of Woburn. Mr and Mrs. Wyer make their home with Mr. Champney in Woburn, passing the summer season at North Conway. They have one child, Alice Brooks, born July 27, 1898.

The site I sent a couple of days ago about the letters of Thomas Jefferson Brooks http://www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/lilly/mss/html/brooks.html had a lot of interesting information to help fill out his family. Mention is made of his brother Lewis' dau. Mary Caroline Brooks marrying the Woburn artist Benjamin Champneys, (which should not have an "s" at the end according to Benjamin's bio), of Woburn. I was curious about him, and looked up his bio: http://whitemountainart.com/Biographies/bio_bc.htm There is a link to "Sixty Years' Memories of Art and Artists" by Benjamin Champney. MCM., which states his mother is Rebecca BROOKS. His wife is not mentioned in his biography, the only source I was able to find that he married Thomas' niece was the Indiana.edu website. I did find them on ancestry.com, and it would appear that his wife was 17 years younger than he, if info can be trusted. I could not find who his mother's (Rebecca Brooks) parents are, but would not immediately assume she was from Henry's line because Benjamin was a Woburn artist, since he was not born in Woburn (he was b. in New Ipswich, NH, and anc.com trees show his f. was b. Groton, MA). Benjamin's renown was as a landscape artist, portraits, and floral painter, especially associated with the White Mountains. From info provided at both of these sites I've determined: (From Chris: Thomas Jefferson Brooks parents are: Daniel Brooks 1764 (John 1723, Job, Daniel, Josh, Capt. Thomas) and Bathsheba Dakin) Daniel and Bathsheba had 2 more children mentioned in these pieces, Lewis and Rebecca. Lewis Brooks, 1802-1838, of who's estate the letters on indiana.edu from Thomas Jefferson are about (referred to as Thomas' brother Lewis), This site states the letters reference Lewis' wife Mary Caroline Merriam, and the daughters of Lewis: Eliza Brooks who married Augusta Wise, and Mary Caroline Brooks who married the Woburn artist Benjamin Champney(s). (Lewis' wife) Mary Caroline Merriam's sister is also mentioned in association with these letters, Eliza A. P. Merriam Brown-Mrs. Charles R. Brown and later Mrs. John Wise. (note: possibly Augusta Wise who married Lewis daughter Eliza is a son of Mr. John Wise). The site mentions that Lewis' daughters were being educated in Lexington, MA by Rebecca (Brooks) Trask, b.1808, sister of Thomas. From the Whitemountain site, Benjamin Champney's memoir "Sixty Years...." mentions he was born 11/20/1817 in New Ipswich, NH. He says his father was Benjamin Champney, a lawyer, and that his father worked in law with his father Ebenezer. He states his mother is Rebecca Brooks, his father was not successful, died young, left mother with 7 kids. At age 10 he went to live with his mother's sister Louisa (Brooks) Bugbee who lived in Lebanon, NH, her husband owned a cotton factory. His memoir says this Aunt Louisa had already adopted a younger sister who he refers to later as his sister Mary Jane. So, this shows that Benjamin Champney 1817 (Benjamin, Ebenezer) also had a sister Mary Jane Champney. His mother Rebecca Brooks had a sister Louisa who married a Bugbee and lived in Lebanon, NH. Maybe someone knows who the parents of these women are? Thank you for any help on this- Maura Amrich, Tyngsborough, MA

Christopher Brooks wrote: > In my mind, it's important to distinguish between genealogical > (blood) relationships and relationships by marriage. There's > no genealogical connection that I've yet seen between John > Quincy Adams or Charles Francis Adams. Since Charles Francis/7 > married a Brooks, obviously his descendants from that point on > carry Brooks genes. Of course, I meant to say, no known genealogical relationship between John Quincy or Charles Francis AND a Brooks line. Chris

Maura Amrich wrote: > Cousin on this line, and kin to Henry, includes (11) 1st Lady > Barbara Pierce 1925, wife of George H. W. Bush. Her line back > to Henry is supposed to be (provided by someone else and not > fully researched by me yet): 10. Marvin Pierce 1893 and > Pauline Robinson; 9. Scott Pierce 1866 and Mabel Marvin; 8. > Jonas James Pierce 1839 and Kate Pritzel; 7. James Pierce 1810 > and Chloe Holbrook; 6. James Pierce 1768 and Mary Polly Stacy; > 5. Esther Richardson 1727 and Joshua Pierce; 4. Nathan > Richardson 1702 and Esther Pierce (yes, their dau. Esther > Richardson married a Pierce cousin); 3. Deborah Brooks 1669 > and John Richardson; 2. John Brooks 1623 and Eunice Mousall; > 1. Henry Brooks One "someone else" who has researched this line and published the Barbara Pierce line above is Gary Boyd Roberts, the NEHGS staffer and scholar who specializes in Presidential lines and celebrity pedigrees. RootsWeb has abstracted the first 10 generations, if memory serves, of each President's ahnentafel from his book "Ancestry of American Presidents" (NEHGS, 1995). They can be found at the RootsWeb site. > His twin Josiah Jones Brooks married her sister Sarah Angeline > Carpenter, and their sister Harriet Noble Brooks abt 1825 > married Mary and Sarah's brother Joseph Orlander Carpenter. > I cannot find any NOBLE first or last names The NOBLE family originates in Massachusetts in the Springfield area, where Thomas/1 married Hannah/2 WARRINER 1 Nov 1660. I don't find them in central or eastern Massachusetts, and they seem to have remained for some generations in western MA and VT (and I'd guess CT), along the familiar north/south corridor of migration out of southwestern New England. Harriet probably picked up her maiden name from a maternal ancestor, one of the reasons why middle names are dicey ancestral indicators at best. > I do not find the name Sheridan associated with Carpenter > lines, and wonder again if anyone has seen it associated with > Capt. Thomas' line. I don't have a single SHERIDAN in my database of 47,000 people. > I am also related to Phillips Brooks, of Capt. Thomas, through > another route, who is supposed to be a cousin per family > stories through my Brooks line. My known connection to > Phillips Brooks is through the Concord Emerson line. If Salmon descends from Capt. Thomas as you believe, then, yes, you are related to Rev. Phillips Brooks, who also descended from Capt. Thomas. > President Millard Fillmore, is supposed to be of: Ouch. I'd replace "supposed" with documented data from the Gary Boyd Roberts info already referenced. > Chris, there is a present for you coming in the mail, a couple > of years late (I think I can emotionally handle parting with it > now, for an extended visit with you. It will go out by next > week absolutely, still on South St.? 384 South St., Littleton NH 03561-3932. Thanks, Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Brooks BROOKS Families of New England http://www.tributaries.org ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Maura Amrich wrote: > Family stories: [snip] My G. Uncle, now 94, remembers > visiting an Adams family in Franklin Co. (Leyden?), MA Brooks, Eveline A. of Shutesbury and Lyman Adams, int. May 31, 1840. <Barre VR, 116> Brooks, Evalina A., of Shutesbury, and Lyman Adams of Barre, June 17, 1840. C.R. <New Salem VR, 58> > first Brooks found in Shutesbury > is Joshua in 1820, he is the only one, Salmon is not on the > census, as the family is shown to include 1 m. 45+; 1 f. 27- > 45; 1 f. 45+. Joshua would fit to be Salmon's father). This could be any of a dozen or two Joshuas living at this time, unfortunately. By date alone the Evelina/e above fits as a daughter. > Finally to get to the point of Joseph Smith, I found several > mentions of a branch of Thomas' line as being believed related > to Joseph Smith, prophet. A number of individuals in the Alstead, NH branch of Capt. Thomas's line (through Dea. Simon/5, who went to Alstead about the beginning of the Revolution) are labelled in the IGI as related to Joseph Smith. Not being LDS, I've regarded this as a curiosity or novelty rather than a personal research imperative. My *guess* would be that the relationship to Joseph Smith, if any, is through one of the PRENTICE or DRURY ladies who married an Alstead Brooks male. > my lines are heavily intermarried and I often find I have > numerous relations to people, am already related to siblings > and cousins spouses, so it is likely I connect to Smith in > another way, including through my Brooks line. These sorts of heavily interconnected lines are quite typical of early Massachusetts families, which historian David Hackett Fischer has referred to as "a vast cousinage." In the course of researching my own line, and a number of collateral families, at Concord, I've extracted several (two? three? four?) thousand people from the published Concord VR. I've reached the point where almost every new marriage I enter of Concord lines consists of cousins, whether distant or near. Of course, I wouldn't want to diminish your bragging rights in any way, Maura. :-) > John Quincy Adams also shows on my Smith descendancy, another > cousin (remember earlier memory of my great uncle that they > used to visit an Adams family in Franklin Co. who were > relatives), his line is supposed to be: 1. Robert Smith 1594 > (our common ancestor); 2. Thomas Smith 1634 (brother to my > Robert 1626) and Abigail Boylston; 3. William Smith 1707 and > Elizabeth Quincy; 4. Abigail Smith 1744 and John Adams; 5. > John Quincy Adams 1767 (John Q's son Charles Francis Adams > married Abigail Brown Brooks, a descendant of Capt. Thomas, > her line should go back to Capt. Thomas as: Peter Chardon, > Edward, Samuel, Samuel (who married a Bolyston, see # 2 > above); Caleb; Capt. Thomas). Some years back I researched the BOYLSTON family to ascertain the Brooks/Adams/Boylston connection. In looking for Boylstons I went through all the published VR of Middlesex, Worcester, and Suffolk (Boston) Counties, as well as Bond's Watertown Genealogies. I found no Abigail Boylston earlier than Abigail/3 (Thomas/2, Thomas/1), b. 15 Nov 1674, Roxbury (VR, 1:36), who married Capt. Ebenezer/3 Brooks (Caleb/2, Thomas/1). Pres. John Quincy Adams (there were sons and grandsons of the same name) traces back to Peter/3 Boylston (Thomas/2, Thomas/1), brother of Abigail. The first Charles Francis Adams (again, the name was carried on after him), son of Pres. John Quincy Adams and grandson of Pres. John Adams, married Abigail Brown/7 Brooks, whose line was as you have it above. Her Boylston ancestress was Sarah/3, a sibling of the two previously mentioned. In my mind, it's important to distinguish between genealogical (blood) relationships and relationships by marriage. There's no genealogical connection that I've yet seen between John Quincy Adams or Charles Francis Adams. Since Charles Francis/7 married a Brooks, obviously his descendants from that point on carry Brooks genes. I don't know who your Abigail in #2 above is, but I don't think she was a Boylston. > Now here is the other connection to Capt. Thomas line [snip] > Silas Newton Brooks b. 1825 Bernardston (he is > buried in Central Cemetery Bernardston near some of my known > Brooks, and with my Carpenters and other lines, he would seem > to be the most likely link to my Salmon, his f. Dr. John > Brooks b. Worcester 1783 would seem so perfect to be a brother > or first cousin to my Salmon 1795, but no link found yet, Dr. John/6 of Bernardston was the son of Capt. Nathaniel/5 Brooks and Mary Newton. Just looking at the dates, Mary Newton (b. 11 Oct 1747) bore their children from 1768 to 1788, when she was 41. To have also had a son Salmon ca 1795 (at approximately 48 years of age, and after a 7-year hiatus from childbirth) seems unlikely to me. There are many, many unexplored branches of Capt. Thomas's line, and, as I've opined before, I suspect Salmon belongs to one of these rather than to the already well-documented branches of the line. Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Brooks BROOKS Families of New England http://www.tributaries.org ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

I left a Caleb off the list I just sent of Calebs leading to Low, Quebec. My list was fine as far as it went, but omitted the seventh generation Caleb who went to the Gatineau River in Quebec. He was Caleb/7, b. 1800, son of Caleb/6 Brooks (1776-1742) and Lydia/5 WYMAN (b. 1772). He was the 4th successive Caleb and the 5th so-named in this line. Thus he's properly Caleb IV, not V as given on the web page. Chris

Maura Amrich wrote: > 1670's: Susanna Brooks listed in town records of 1670 as > the first practitioner of medicine in Woburn. Susanna ?Bradford, 2d wife of Henry/1 Brooks, was an herbalist of local repute. > 1810's: Joseph and Benjamin Brooks froze to death Jan. > 19, 1810. "On Jan. 18, 1810, [Benjamin] and his cousin [Joseph] went into the woods a little before noon to cut wood, the weather being then very mild; but in the evening it became excessively cold, and they were supposed to have perished from its effects, on that or the following day. They were found on the 20th. The 19th was the memorable 'Cold Friday', according to the record of that period." Benjamin, s. of ____, perished with cold in the woods, Jan. 19, 1810; 45 y. Their line is 6. Benjamin and Joseph 5. Capt. Nathaniel (1734-1783) + Esther/4 WYMAN (1736-1815) 4. Nathaniel (1703-1776) + Submit POULTER (1708-1799) 3. Jabez (b. 1673) + 2w Hepsibah CUTTER (1671-1746) 2. John + Eunice MOUSALL 1. Henry + unnamed 1st wife > Interesting info on Caleb who went to Canada. > http://collections.ic.gc.ca/gatineau/brooks.html > Too much to copy/tell, this is about Brooks Hill Low, > Quebec, Canada, [snip] Annette Anderson and Penny Warne, who were at one time subscribed here (I haven't heard from either in at least a couple of years, so will copy this message to them offlist), are in this line. Annette lives in Calgary, Penny in Toronto. The descent is from Caleb/6 Brooks III, bap. 10 Mar 1776 at Medford: 5. Capt. Caleb (1744-1812) + Mary KIDDER (d. 1810) 4. Capt. Caleb (1694-1766) + Mary/4 WINN (1711-1746) 3. Capt. Ebenezer (1671-1743, the 1715 slaveholder mentioned in the Winchester URL) + Abigail/3 BOYLSTON (1674-1756) 2. Caleb + Hannah/2 ATKINSON 1. Capt. Thomas + Grace Chris

Maura Amrich wrote: > SLAVERY WAS PART OF WINCHESTER HISTORY > > By ELLEN KNIGHT © > > Some Brooks are mentioned in this Descendants of Caleb/2 Brooks, son of Capt. Thomas/1, including Gov. John/5 Brooks of Massachusetts, Washington's aide during the Revolution. This is the moneyed line of the early Massachusetts Brooks families, and Medford was one of the moneyed towns of the day. Chris

Maura Amrich wrote: > www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/lilly/mss/html/brooks.html > "The Brooks mss., 1838-1845, consist of letters to Thomas > Jefferson Brooks at Mt. Pleasant, Martin County, Indiana, [snip] > > Thomas Jefferson Brooks was born in Lincoln, > Massachusetts, in 1805......" All the Brooks families at Lincoln, MA (which was set off from Concord) are in the line of Capt. Thomas Brooks. This particular Thomas Jefferson (I've got six men with this name, and another half dozen Thomas Js) has this Brooks line: 7. Thomas Jefferson Brooks (1805-1882) + Susanna POORE 6. Col. Daniel (1764-1839) + Bathsheba/6 DAKIN (these were 3d cousins) 5. John (1723-1812) + Lucy/5 HOAR (d. 1798) 4. Job (1698-1788) + Elizabeth/4 Flagg (1701-1786) 3. Ens. Daniel (1663-1733) + Anna/3 MERRIAM (1669-1757) 2. Dea. Joshua + Hannah MASON 1. Capt. Thomas + Grace Bathsheba Dakin's (#6 above) Brooks line is 5. Lt. Samuel DAKIN (1744-1811) + Elizabeth Billings (d. 1825) 4. Samuel Dakin (b. 1700) + Mary 3. Simon Dakin (b. c1644) + Elizabeth/3a BROOKS (b. 1672) 2. Dea. Joshua Brooks + Hannah Mason > I give up googling for Salmon Brooks, ...but I'm learning > all about flyfishing..... Try ("salmon brooks" NOT fish), minus the parentheses. :-) Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Brooks BROOKS Families of New England http://www.tributaries.org ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

was googling for other info and found this: Copied from: www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/lilly/mss/html/brooks.html "The Brooks mss., 1838-1845, consist of letters to Thomas Jefferson Brooks at Mt. Pleasant, Martin County, Indiana, from John Bell of Louisville, Kentucky, agent for trustees of Bell Evans Co., Daniel Hunt of Boston, Massachusetts, David Jones of Belleville, Illinois, Nancy Newell of Pittsford, Virginia, George Brown, Henry B. Shields, Thomas Lacy Smith, and Charles Woodruff of New Albany, Indiana; and to Lewis Brooks at New Albany, Indiana, from Rufus Brown of Mt. Pleasant, Indiana. Thomas Jefferson Brooks was born in Lincoln, Massachusetts, in 1805......" Go to site for more. .................................................................... http://www.winchestermass.org/black_history.html SLAVERY WAS PART OF WINCHESTER HISTORY By ELLEN KNIGHT © Some Brooks are mentioned in this ......................................................................... I give up googling for Salmon Brooks, ...but I'm learning all about flyfishing..... Maura Amrich, Tyngsborough, MA

(am not actively researching Henry's line right now-at least I don't think I am-so will leave it to others to match these people up right) From: http://users.rcn.com/woblib/chrnlgy.htm 1670's: Susanna Brooks listed in town records of 1670 as the first practitioner of medicine in Woburn. 1810's: Joseph and Benjamin Brooks froze to death Jan. 19, 1810. Interesting info on Caleb who went to Canada. http://collections.ic.gc.ca/gatineau/brooks.html Too much to copy/tell, this is about Brooks Hill Low, Quebec, Canada, speaks of first to arrive, "an enterprising Yankee from Woburn, Mass., Philemon Wright" early in 1800, main reason people went there was for the lumbering. In 1818, his 18 yr old nephew came to work for him,. Caleb Brooks from Boston. Says he came from English Puritans (who emigrated from Suffolk to Mass. in 1630???), second son was Caleb, Caleb III and his brother John fought in Revolution, John became Gov. of Mass, it is his grandson Caleb V who went to Quebec, eventually owned inn, livery, smithy, farmed 1000 acres...... Maura Amrich, Tyngsborough, MA

I would have replied to my own post of the wee hours today, but since this is also about my Henry line, I wanted the subject to reflect that, see previous post. My Henry Brooks line (not the man responsible for my mom's Brooks last name) is: 1. Henry of Concord 2. Timothy Brooks 1638 and Mary Russell 3. Hepsibeth Brooks 1671 and Pelatiah Mason 4. Elizabeth Mason 1707 and John Hale 5. John Hale 1726 and Bethiah Bosworth 6. Elizabeth Hale 1756 and Benjamin Kelton 7. Elizabeth Kelton 1779 Warwick, Franklin, MA and Joseph Potter 8. Eliza A. Potter 1807 Leyden, MA and Jotham Orlander Carpenter 9. Mary Adeline Carpenter 1834 and Jonathan Brooks 1827 Colrain (son of Salmon Brooks abt 1795 and Hannah Jones, as noted in prior post showing my known Brooks line) 10. Duane Adelbert Brooks 1853 Cousin on this line, and kin to Henry, includes (11) 1st Lady Barbara Pierce 1925, wife of George H. W. Bush. Her line back to Henry is supposed to be (provided by someone else and not fully researched by me yet): 10. Marvin Pierce 1893 and Pauline Robinson; 9. Scott Pierce 1866 and Mabel Marvin; 8. Jonas James Pierce 1839 and Kate Pritzel; 7. James Pierce 1810 and Chloe Holbrook; 6. James Pierce 1768 and Mary Polly Stacy; 5. Esther Richardson 1727 and Joshua Pierce; 4. Nathan Richardson 1702 and Esther Pierce (yes, their dau. Esther Richardson married a Pierce cousin); 3. Deborah Brooks 1669 and John Richardson; 2. John Brooks 1623 and Eunice Mousall; 1. Henry Brooks Some other notes left off from earlier post in regards to trying to narrow down my search for Salmon Brooks 1795 parents: As stated earlier (see earlier post for line info), Salmon's 3 children married 3 Carpenter siblings, children of Jotham Orlander Carpenter and Eliza A. Potter. My anc. Jonathan M. Brooks 1827 m. Mary Adeline Carpenter 1834. His twin Josiah Jones Brooks married her sister Sarah Angeline Carpenter, and their sister Harriet Noble Brooks abt 1825 married Mary and Sarah's brother Joseph Orlander Carpenter. I cannot find any NOBLE first or last names in the lines associated with the Carpenter line-which has been well researched-and have done much work on those associated lines, with no NOBLE found, so suspect there may be a Brooks connection, hopefully a maiden name that someone has seen in their Capt. Thomas line, with likely a VT connection? (Note: The Carpenter genealogy done by Amos Carpenter shows Sarah and Angeline as 2 separate women and that there were 4 siblings who married Unknown BROCK, which explains why the Carpenter researchers never found us, later copies have some corrections to this. We considered we may have been BROCK and changed to Brooks, but all our records show us as Brooks before Amos wrote his book, and no family stories say we were Brock) Joseph Orlander Carpenter and Harriet Noble Brooks, mentioned just above, had a son Miles Sheridan Carpenter who married a Hattie Brooks (this caused much confusion because his mother went by Hattie, but to be sure of this I went to MA Archives and Vitals to see the records myself rather than relying on others transcriptions, and it checks out that both his wife and mother were Hattie (Harriet) Brooks). I do not find the name Sheridan associated with Carpenter lines, and wonder again if anyone has seen it associated with Capt. Thomas' line. As to Miles Sheridan Carpenter's wife Hattie Brooks, she was b. abt 1825 in MA (per censuses) and died 1949 (buried in South Cemetery, Leyden). Per census, her father was born in VT and mother in MA, I cannot find her parents and suspect she is a cousin from the Capt. Thomas line (my line also married William of Deerfield Brookses, but she isn't showing up in his line). Does anyone have a Hattie from a VT line that would work, esp. with some of the connections/clues I supplied here and on my Brooks line in earlier post? Duane Adelbert Brooks, my 2nd GGF (Jonathan, Salmon), I have no idea where Adelbert came from if someone has the name in their Thomas line it may be a connection, had a daughter Lula Dell Brooks. I remember a post in archives about VT? Brookses with a daughter Lula D. from around same time, again maybe another connection, it does not appear to be a common name with Thomas line, and not found in Carpenter and associated lines. I am also related to Phillips Brooks, of Capt. Thomas, through another route, who is supposed to be a cousin per family stories through my Brooks line. My known connection to Phillips Brooks is through the Concord Emerson line. My Concord Emerson line: 1. Thomas Emerson 1584 and Elizabeth Brewster (who may or may not be the daughter of Elder Wm. Brewster of Mayflower); 2. Nathan Emerson 1630 and Lydia Thorley; 3. Thomas Emerson 1671 and Phillipa Perkins (the Brahmin and Thomas Handasyd Perkins, Perkins school, family); 4. Sarah Emerson 1691 and William Hunt; 5. Thomas Hunt 1717 and Mary Smith (see my Smith line from earlier post, Silas Newton Brooks wife is related to that line also); 6. Lydia Hunt 1750 and Hezekiah Newcomb; 7. Jemima Harriet Newcomb 1780 and David Potter; 8. Jotham Orlander Carpenter 1806 and Eliza Potter (related to Dorothy Potter who married Noah Brooks (Joshua, Capt. Thomas) ); 9. Mary Adeline Carpenter and Jonathan Brooks, son of Salmon, as mentioned above (and shown on my Brooks and Smith line, earlier post) Phillips Brooks line back to Thomas Emerson is supposed to be: 1. Thomas Emerson 1584 2. John Emerson 1624 and Ruth Symonds 3. Mary Emerson 1664 and Samuel Phillips 4. Samuel Phillips 1689 and Hannah White 5. Samuel Phillips 1715 and Elizabeth Barnard 6. Samuel Phillips 1743 and Phebe Foxcraft 7. John Phillips 1776 and Lydia Gorham (daughter of Nathaniel Gorham, the signer, another cousin of mine) 8. Mary Ann Phillips 1808 and William Gray Brooks 9. Phillips Brooks I have a couple of direct line Phillips ancestors who aren't attached yet, but there appears to be an old relation between my family and Phillipses, going back to earlier England. Those of you who are related to Phillips Brooks have probably traced the Phillips line back to Emersons already-so I apologize if I'm giving old news, but there are some interesting cousins on my Emerson line, who would also be cousins to Phillips Brooks, aside from the obvious Ralph Waldo Emerson connection, and again Silas Newton Brooks (of Thomas' line, see earlier post) wife shows as a cousin on this line also, yet another connection to Capt. Thomas' line since everyone in my line married people who are already cousins (I fully believe, unless I get lucky with yesterday's post, that it will be through a back door that I find my Salmon). President Millard Fillmore, is supposed to be of: 1. Thomas Emerson; 2. Nathaniel Emerson; 3. Thomas Emerson 1671 (our shared ancestor, you can hook him up to Phillips Brooks through Phillips Emerson line that I gave above); Mary Emerson 1704 and Stephen Story; 5. Phillipa Story and Ebenezer Wood 1726; 6. Hepzibah Wood 1747 and Nathaniel Fillmore; 7. Nathaniel Fillmore 1717 and Phebe Millard (Miller); 8. President Millard Fillmore (Parts of this have been well researched by me due to other direct line connections, some less so, but the source has been reliable). Actor John Lithgow again: 1. Thomas Emerson; 2. Nathaniel Emerson; 3. Thomas Emerson; 4. Sarah Emerson; 5. Thomas Hunt and Mary Smith (see my Smith line from earlier post) 6. Lydia Hunt and Hezekiah Newcomb (our shared ancestor); 7. Lydia Newcomb 1772 and Cotton Graves; 8. Warren Mattoon Graves 1804 and Amanda Root; 9. Albert Mattoon Graves 1847 and Mary Bronson; 10. Eva Bronson Graves 1875 and Oslo Josiah Price; 11. Living Price (f.) and Living Lithgow (m.); 12. John Lithgow Astronaut Alan B. Shepard's link to Emerson is supposed to be: 1. Thomas Emerson (our shared ancestor); 2. Rev. Joseph Emerson 1620 and Elizabeth Bulkeley; 3. Ebenezer Emerson 1675 and Mary Boutwell; 4. Joseph Emerson 1721 and Phebe Upton; 5. Elias Emerson 1759 and Phebe Hayward (Heywood, Howard?); 6. Abraham Emerson 1799 and Mary Bentley Eaton; 7. Charles Stillman Emerson 1829 and Hannah Emmons; 8. Charles Stillman Emerson and Unknown; 9. Pauline Renza Emerson 1900 and Alan Bartlett Shepard; 10. Astronaut Alan Bartlett Shepard 1923 Melissa Minerva Burroughs (wife of Silas Newton Brooks, of Capt. Thomas Brooks line, see earlier post): 1. Thomas Emerson; 2. Nathaniel Emerson; 3. Thomas Emerson; 4. Sarah Emerson; 5. Thomas Hunt (our shared ancestor) and Mary Smith (Melissa is also related to me through the Smith line); 6. Deacon John Hunt 1752 and Martha Ryther (Rider); 7. Phebe Hunt 1776 and Amos Burrows (Boroughs); 8. Isaac Burrows and Rebecca Louise Connable (her mother is a Wright); 9. Melissa Minerva Burrows 1829 Bernardston, MA and Silas Newton BROOKS (see earlier post for line back to Capt. Thomas). Well, I'm done, and now we have all learned what happens when someone goes through 6 years of archives and fills 2 notebooks with notes, they then respond to any of your dead ends that trigger connections for their own dead ends, and other questions like "How are the Brooks related to Joseph Smith" and "Are there any other famous people related to Brooks?", etc., at least I'm not joining in any of the past "contests" like who had the most sons, and giving equal time to the most daughters, but the next time there's a lull in the list and Chris wants to have a most inbred family contest I am so there!!! I hope someone can use something of what I have sent. I never fully appreciated what a great listserve this is until I searched the archives and see all the efforts made by Chris and Cheshire Jean (and forgive me for not going on as I could never name all of you) who are the experts on their lines and take the time to respond to our posts, correct errors, link the people up, so that the posts are really useful to others in the future. However, I've likely given Chris more than he would like right now with all my could bes...but Chris, there is a present for you coming in the mail, a couple of years late (I think I can emotionally handle parting with it now, for an extended visit with you. It will go out by next week absolutely, still on South St.? Normally you really can take my word for things, but this has been a crazy couple of years for us). Maura J. Amrich, Tynsgorough, MA genam1620@comcast.net

My apologies as it will take a while to get to the topic: Family stories: Our first Brooks came to America in 1636 and settled in Watertown, the second son was the ancestor of Phillips Brooks. So, assuming this isn't the result of someone doing family gen. and only finding Thomas as a first immigrant and assuming then we must be related to him, it would seem we are of Capt. Thomas line. Through maiden names connected to my Brooks line, I am direct line relation of Henry Brooks and the Concord Emersons. There are other connections to maiden names found in Capt. Thomas line. My G. Uncle, now 94, remembers visiting an Adams family in Franklin Co. (Leyden?), MA (my known Brooks were in Leyden, Colrain, Bernardston) as a child who were relatives (they had a tomahawk buried in their front door from the early Indian aggressions). He also thought he remembers that some of our Brooks were Loyalists and had gone to Canada. Again, all these stories check out to parts of Capt. Thomas' line, there is also a connection to Windham Co., VT. Have been going through all the Brooks-NE archives to get info on Thomas' line, that proven, that that is supposed to be, or likely to be, that that fits in with my family stories, or has connections to other direct lines, and doing my best to build his line so I can figure out where to look for my Salmon's 1795 parents (I tend to think his stay in Shutesbury was short and he came from elsewhere, first Brooks found in Shutesbury is Joshua in 1820, he is the only one, Salmon is not on the census, as the family is shown to include 1 m. 45+; 1 f. 27-45; 1 f. 45+. Joshua would fit to be Salmon's father). My first Brooks known is Salmon Brooks b. abt 1795 supposedly Shutesbury, MA. His wife m. 1823 was Hannah Jones b. Shutesbury (proven), daughter of Josiah Jones of Middleboro, MA and probably Elizabeth Nye or maybe Elizabeth Vaughan (there is a Nye/Vaughan and Brooks/Vaughan connection already. Another Salmon Brooks b. around same time in MA is found to have fought in war of 1812 in NY and believed to be the one found in Genessee County census listed as Zalmon. (found mentions of Genesee Co. in archives) Finally to get to the point of Joseph Smith, I found several mentions of a branch of Thomas' line as being believed related to Joseph Smith, prophet. His Smith line is a direct line to me, making him a cousin, but through my maiden lines connected with Brooks, but still seemed interesting, especially when I did a descendancy report and found another connection to Thomas' line on it. However, my lines are heavily intermarried and I often find I have numerous relations to people, am already related to siblings and cousins spouses, so it is likely I connect to Smith in another way, including through my Brooks line. Don't know if this will just really confuse people, or if it helps to trigger a link for anyone, but my Smith line is as follows, some of the early line is taken from others work, and I can't entirely vouch for it since I don't know the person who did the research. 1. Robert Smith 1594 ; 2. Robt Smith 1626 and Mary French; 3. Thos. Smith 1657 and Martha Knowlton; 4. Ebenezer Smith 1690 and Mary Perkins; 5 Mary Smith 1712 and Thomas Hunt; 6. Lydia Hunt 1750 and Hezekiah Newcomb; 7. Jemima Harriet Newcomb 1780 and David Carpenter; 8. Jotham Orlander Carpenter 1806 and Eliza A. Potter (she is related to Dorothy Potter 1662 who m. (3.) Noah Brooks (2. Josh Brooks; 1 Capt Thomas) but their common relative is Thomas Potter 1535, Dorothy descends from son Jeffrey, I descend from son Robert); 9. Mary Adeline Carpenter 1834 and Jonathan M. Brooks (Jonathan is son of Salmon Brooks 1795. Jonathan, his twin Josiah and their sister Harriet all married Carpenter siblings, children of Jotham Orlander Carpenter and Eliza Potter); 10. Duane Adelbert Brooks 1852 and Rhoda Elizabeth Kinney (Jonathan was b. Colrain, MA son Duane in Leyden, MA, Duane's son Walter is my GGF, he was b. in Gloucester and then settled in Needham. Rhoda, Walter's mother, was from Gloucester, she left Duane and apparently was quite serious about not being found as she went to Boston, but Walter as a young boy for a time lived on a farm in Vermont where he went by the last name of Raymond). Joseph Smith's line is supposed to be (again, this has not been fully researched by me): 1. Robert Smith 1594; 2. Robert 1626 (our common relative); 3. Samuel Smith 1666 and Rebecca Curtis (Samuel is brother of my Thomas 1657); 4. Samuel Smith 1714 Topsf. and Priscilla Gould; 5. Asahel Smith 1744 Topsfield and Mary Duty; 6. Joseph Smith 1771 Topsf. and Lucy Mack; 7. Joseph Smith 1805 Sharon, Windsor, Vt, one wife was Emma Hale (not sure if she is part of the Bernardston Hale line, does not appear to be part of my Hale direct line, my Eliza Potter, wife of #8 on my Smith line, was a granddaughter of Elizabeth Hale-through her I have several Mayflower ancestors). John Quincy Adams also shows on my Smith descendancy, another cousin (remember earlier memory of my great uncle that they used to visit an Adams family in Franklin Co. who were relatives), his line is supposed to be: 1. Robert Smith 1594 (our common ancestor); 2. Thomas Smith 1634 (brother to my Robert 1626) and Abigail Boylston; 3. William Smith 1707 and Elizabeth Quincy; 4. Abigail Smith 1744 and John Adams; 5. John Quincy Adams 1767 (John Q's son Charles Francis Adams married Abigail Brown Brooks, a descendant of Capt. Thomas, her line should go back to Capt. Thomas as: Peter Chardon, Edward, Samuel, Samuel (who married a Bolyston, see # 2 above); Caleb; Capt. Thomas). Other spouse names associated with Capt. Thomas extended line found on my Smith descendancy report are: Wright, Perkins, Peabody, Newton. Now here is the other connection to Capt. Thomas line, also found on my Smith descendancy report: our common ancestor is 5. Mary Smith (refer to my Smith line for 1-4); 6. John Hunt (brother of my 6. Lydia Hunt); 7. Phoebe Hunt; 8. Isaac Burrows and Rebecca Louise Connable (she is dau. of Jonathan Connable and Asenath Wright-yet another Wright connection); 9. Melissa Minerva Burrows b. 1829 (her sister Henrietta married a Hale) and Silas Newton Brooks b. 1825 Bernardston (he is buried in Central Cemetery Bernardston near some of my known Brooks, and with my Carpenters and other lines, he would seem to be the most likely link to my Salmon, his f. Dr. John Brooks b. Worcester 1783 would seem so perfect to be a brother or first cousin to my Salmon 1795, but no link found yet, and they have Windham Co. connections where my Carpenters were plenty (Carpenters had a big farm in Guilford, and the Carpenter Cemetery, where they seemed to go back and forth to-the farm and town, not the cemetery). Silas Brooks line back to Thomas is John 1783; Nathaniel 1740; John 1701; Daniel 1663; Joshua 1630; Capt. Thomas Brooks. Well, this is pretty much everything I have, except Salmon had one more child Elizabeth who died young, Jonathan (my descendant) I don't find through maiden lines who he is named after, so would assume it is a Brooks name, Harriet is common in Carpenter line, Josiah was named for his grandfather Josiah Jones, so would think a Jonathan Brooks may be good choice for a father of Salmon, and also of course the Joshua found in Shutesbury census. And finally as a bit of fun, another cousin on my Smith descendancy report, and therefore cousin to Silas N. Brooks children, Joseph Smith and John Quiny Adams IS, the line (again, this is from someone else and has not been fully researched by me, but I've had very good results with this person's work in the past): our common ancestor 6. Lydia Hunt (see my Smith line for 1-5); 7. Lydia Newcomb (sister of my Jemima Harriet Newcomb); 8. Warren Matton Graves; 9. Albert Mattoon Graves; 10. Eva Bronson Graves; 11. Living Price; 12. Actor JOHN LITHGOW (3rd Rock from the Sun; Harry and the Hendersons; Footloose; The World according to Garp...) If anything clicks with anyone, and you have any thoughts to share, please do. And if you'd like to see my extended Thomas line, or my known Brooks line, I would be most happy to share it. And if anyone has any Capt. Thomas lines they wish to share, I'd be most happy to receive them, my goal is to get all the men and where they lived who could be candidates for Salmon's father, and then see what seems to connect best with my known lines and begin looking into the possibilities. It is so frustrating to have most of the maiden lines associated with my Brooks line traced comfortably back to England, and have my mother's "Bloodline" Brookses be such a mystery. And yes, I really am posting this at the time it shows, which shows how long and confusing this post is because I started quite a while ago. Sorry if I've confused you....please help if you can, and if anything interests you that you've seen (even with other names), feel free to ask for info, with 8 to 12 G GPs on the Mayflower and 95% of my known Brooks maiden lines here by 1640, I appear to be related to everyone (esp. those Rehoboth folks!), the town history might as well be my personal family history. Thanks for any help you can give me. Maura Amrich, Tyngsborough, MA genam1620@comcast.net

Maura Amrich wrote: > 3/2002: Chris Brooks wrote: > > "Two things I hope to see before I die are a Red Sox > World Series win and the discovery of the origins of Thomas > Brooks. I think the odds of the Red Sox are somewhat higher. :-) > > This gave me a smile, So, have the odds of finding > Thomas' origins now increased??? I suspect the odds of the Sox winning a second straight year, though mathematically slender, are still better. :-) Chris

Are there any subscribers to the BROOKS-NE-LISTSERV descended from William Brooks and Mary Burt interested in participating in DNA testing? As I see it, participation would help our mutual efforts under Christopher's patient, guiding hand to delineate and better understand the different Brooks lines in New England. The secondary benefit is the potential to understand the William Brooks & Mary Burt heritage in England, where no indication of William's ancestors is known. There seem to be participants for the other Brooks lines, but no one other than me for William's. The more participants, the more authoritative information would be gained. If you are of the William line and interested in either participating, or obtaining more information before deciding, please contact Christopher or me. Thanks. Lynn Brooks

3/2002: Chris Brooks wrote: "Two things I hope to see before I die are a Red Sox World Series win and the discovery of the origins of Thomas Brooks. I think the odds of the Red Sox are somewhat higher. :-)" This gave me a smile, So, have the odds of finding Thomas' origins now increased??? Maura genam1620@comcast.net

Given the additional information you posted, your line *should* be: 5. (Benjamin) Franklin Brooks, who's new to me 4. Uri/Eri Brooks, b. Hadley?, MA, 8 Jul 1759 + Hannah SIKES, m. 29 Mar 1783, Wilbraham, MA 3. Joseph Brooks (b. 1714) + Miriam WRIGHT (b. 1732) 2. Joseph Brooks (1667-1743) + Lydia/3 WARNER 1. William Brooks (d. 1688) + Mary/2 BURT All the persons above lived in various Massachusetts towns along the Connecticut River valley. This is the Springfield Brooks line. Normally I could point you to the Tributaries web site for the first two to four generations, but this line isn't up there yet as it's the subject of a research project that's getting nearer to publication each day. A basic source text, well done and quite accurate as far as it goes, is "William Brooks of Springfield, Mass., and Some of His Descendants," by Joel T. Eno, in the NEHGS Register (1918), 72:142-147. If you don't have access to a decent genealogical library, I can mail you page copies. One finds the name Uri commingled with Uriah, both in this line in general and in local records. Since many early "misspellings" are actually just phonetic renderings of how names were pronounced in 17th-century English, it would appear Uriah was pronounced -er-eye-ah rather than ewe-ryah. If this hypothesis is correct, then Eri (or Eriah) could be variant spellings of the same given name (er-eye-ah, again, rather than ee-reye-ah). Your Uri/Eri was the second so named in this household (a necronym), as the first was born in 1749 and died 25 Aug 1758. The father Joseph, a trader or storekeeper, lived at Deerfield, Northfield, Hadley, and Northampton, MA. I carefully wrote in the first line of this message, "*should* be," because, in about 10 years' searching to date, I've never previously seen evidence of Uri/Eri going to Louisiana. (He simply disappears from Massachusetts records after marriage.) It's encouraging that he can be documented (birth, marriage) in Massachusetts, that he married Hannah, and that an Uri/Eri who married a Hannah can later be documented in Louisiana � but it seems to be that the burden of proof would be on you and your new source(s) to establish that these two sightings represent the same man. Like so many identity questions in genealogy, this would seem to come down to sources. Is there some affirmative evidence (family bible, or probate, for example) other than simply the coincidence of the same name in two different regions of the country? While such an extreme migration would explain why the Massachusetts man disappears from records there after marriage, in the absence of evidence, it would be more likely that he would go to VT or NY, a common migration pattern from CT and western MA. If the Massachusetts and Louisiana men can be demonstrated to be the same, I'd be happy to do an offlist file swap with you � Uri's ancestry for his later line. And if, in the course of your research, you come across living direct male descendants surnamed Brooks tracing their ancestry to Joseph/2 of the Springfield line, I'd be eager to contact them concerning DNA testing. Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Brooks BROOKS Families of New England http://www.tributaries.org ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Since I posted, I found more info on my LA Brooks family. I found a researcher who has more detailed information which connects Franklin Brooks, 1830 Census, with the rest of the family. Here is what I found: The Franklin Brooks of the 1830 Census is Benjamin Franklin Brooks, dob 1 April 1796 in LA (I believe he was probably born in NY, not LA), son of Uri Brooks, possible son of Joseph and Miriam Wright Brooks. The dob for Uri Brooks is 8 July 1759 born in NY. Chris, could this be the Erastus you were talking about, and the census taker wrote Uri instead of Eri which might have led the researcher to think his name is Uri or Uriah instead of Eri or Erastus? There is an Eri Brooks, age 26, in the 1850 East Baton Rouge parish census, a farmer, probably son of Phocian. The father of this Brooks-LA family Uri or Eri's date of death is 25 August 1822 in Baton Rouge, LA. According to the researcher, he was married to a Hannah (LNU). The researcher shows Benjamin Franklin Brooks siblings are Phocian Brooks, dob 1794, death 9 May 1835 in Baton Rouge, LA, and Uri Brooks (I don't know if his name is Uri or Eri). I have copied the family of Benjamin Franklin Brooks listed as Franklin in the 1830 Census, and it is nicely detailed. He married Lodoiska Fulton after 1820 in LA. Among his children, the names are Gaphino Brooks (no birthdate on this one...problem), Adolphus Brooks, Oliver Brooks (listed in the 1850 census as a Wheelwright), Benjamin Franklin Brooks III, William Duff Brooks, Joseph Chapman Brooks, Eliza Ann Brooks, Rebecca Sophrina Brooks, and Sophia Angelina Brooks. The 1850 Census list a Ledcia Brooks, 27 yrs. Old (I think the age is wrong...I have seen ages incorrectly written in other LA census) born in SC, as head of household with Benjamin, William, Chapman, Eliza, Rebecca, and Sophia living there. I have their date of births if anyone is interested. All of his children were born in East Baton Rouge parish, LA. The deaths of Phocian, May 9, 1835, and Franklin, November 9, 1847, explain why they would have shown up on the 1830 census and not the 1850. Franklin's children continued to live in the Baton Rouge area, but I am still researching this family. I am curious...where in NY or possibly NJ would Erastus and Hannah have lived? Perhaps, this is where I could find the births of my Hannah and her siblings. Let me know if I have left out anything needed... Nancy

Louisiana ought to be the key here, as so few New England Brooks families went there, but I found no leads in my own data looking for any Brooks with an event in Louisiana. The majority of hits for this query were for Union soldiers who fought there in Civil War combat (Port Hudson, etc.), or 20th-century individuals. Just in case, I examined each hit for siblings, daughters, etc. named Hannah with an appropriate lifespan (where known), but this proved equally fruitless. The second valuable indicator ought to be the uncommon given names � Uri or Eri, Dolphus, Phlotian. I have not run across the latter two in any New England Brooks family, though I suspect Dolphus is a shortening of Adolphus, as in Gustavus Adolphus, who as king made Sweden (briefly) a military power in northern Europe. Without either of these latter names in my database, I can't look for a "Uri brother of Dolphus." To be a head of household in the 1820 census, Uri would need to have been born <1799. I've got six men recorded as Uri or Uriah Brooks, but just one born pre-1800 (exact date unknown, est. 1790), who died in Deerfield, NJ in 1862, and married Jane Joslin. Known children, all born Deerfield, NJ, 1814-1832, were Zebulon, Uriah, Daniel, Hannah, Mary, Jane, Amanda, Alexandrew (sic) and Lydia. Looking for an "Eri" (short for Erastus? misreading of Uri?), I have two. One d. young (1749-1758), but another was born 8 Jul 1759, probably at Hadley, Hampshire, MA, married Hannah Sikes, and then disappears without known children. He would thus be about 60/61 years old in 1820. Other than his given name, unfortunately, there is no reason to connect him with Louisiana, and his male siblings were David and Joseph, both common family names in his line, rather than a Dolphus or Phlotian. I've catalogued 20 Brooks women with the given name Sophia, but none married a Kline to my knowledge. Matter of fact, I don't have the surname KLINE in my database at all. Lots of men named Franklin Brooks, but again, none with a relative named Phlotian, Dolphus, Uri, or Eri. FWIW, most of the Brooks transplants I've seen go South before the Civil War were either merchants or millwrights. Both Yankee capital and engineering know-how were apparently in strong demand in the pre-war, agricultural South. I'm sorry I couldn't help. You've done so much research, and unearthed so many potential clues, that by rights you deserve a more productive response � perhaps another listreader will recognize one of those names, and have additional information. Otherwise, I hope you'll retry your query in a few months, as list readership does change slowly over time. Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Brooks BROOKS Families of New England http://www.tributaries.org |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Nancy Federico wrote: > I am searching the family of Hanna Brooks born about 1799 > in NY. > > She married Berry Lively in Louisiana about 1819 or 1820. > Some researchers have her birth state as NJ, but an 1850 > Census of East Baton Rouge Parish in Louisiana has her state of > birth as New York. > > An East Baton Rouge Parish 1820 census has a Uri Brooks, > Jr. and a Dolphus Brooks living near Berry Lively. The > household of Uri Brooks, Jr. contains a male over 45 years, 2 > males between 25 and 44, 1 male between 18-25, 1 male under 10, > and only 1 female between 10-15...poor girl! In the household > of Dolphus there is 1 male between 25 and 44, a female between > 6-18, and another female under 10. I assume the name of > Dolphus is a nickname? But, for what? > > Living next to the Brooks men is a Sophia Kline, who I > assume was between the ages of 18 and 25. She had in her > household a male between 10-15, 3 males under 10, and 1 female > between the ages of 10-15, and 2 females under the age of 10. > Then, the Cline family is represented by a Widow L. Cline in > the 1830 Census. The oldest person in this household is > between 50-60 years old..a female...either this is Sophia, and > the 1820 census made a mistake, or Sophia died and perhaps her > mother in law came to live with her 7 children. I include this > because there may be a family connection...Sophia could have > been a Brooks. > > In the 1830 East Baton Rouge Parish census there is a > Photian Brooks, then Berry Lively, then Franklin Brooks. > Photian and Franklin are about between the ages of 30-40...they > could have been the 2 males in Uri Jr.'s household in 1820. > > Back to Hannah....Berry died in the 1840's, so Hannah is > listed as the head of household in the 1850 Census. The Brooks > families are not listed. Could they have gone back to the > NJ/NY area? There is an Eri Brooks who is 26 years old and born > in LA. But, he is family # 719, and, Hannah and her son, Edwin > Meredith Lively (my ggg-grandfather), are families 1014 and > 1015. > > Any help in discovering who is Hannah's parents is greatly > appreciated. One researcher has her father as Uriah > Brooks, but there isn't a lot of information.