hmm not sure? will share info, I will

Thanks for the infomation on Grace. But I am sorry to hear now that the information I have, is probably not correct. Patty

At 03:45 AM 3/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I think the odds >of the Red Sox are somewhat higher. :-) I'm not so sure about that!!! (new york brooks, ya know)

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:56:02 -0500, Craig Beeman wrote: :Just checked on World Connect and found some two hundred and forty :nine files now there having one Henry BROOKS married to one Grace :WHEELER. : :Found some sixty-nine files there having one Thomas BROOKS married :to one Grace WHEELER. Should we take a poll? :-) As is well known, the internet has contributed more genealogical misinformation in the last decade than disconnected researchers were able to compile in the centuries preceding. It only takes ONE idiot to get something wrong, or make it up, and then submit it to the world by way of the Ancestral File or the internet. Then the other 248 people Craig counted will mindlessly cut and paste to their own site without rechecking anything. For a while I used to write folks whose websites have Henry Brooks born to his second wife (no kidding!), ask them for their sources, offer mine, and politely discuss the discrepancies. One in three thanked me; one in three ignored me; one in three flamed me in reply. I gave up when I realized that genealogy web pages are proliferating faster than 10 of us could keep up with. Instead of tilting at windmills as a one-man truth squad, I opted to launch this list. As much as to share and to help make connections, the list was conceived to counter, in some small way, the hemorrhage of misinformation that has flooded the internet. :Might any one of you have even one solid primary source for a :marriage of a Grace WHEELER to any Henry BROOKS during the early :1600's. :Same for a Grace WHEELER to any Thomas BROOKS during this same :time period. :It is of no consequence to me whether in North America or in the :British Isles, but if any marriage has indeed been recorded for a :Grace WHEELER and a Henry BROOKS or Thomas BROOKS, I would dearly :appreciate learning of same! The death of Grace, wife of Thomas Brooks, is recorded in 1664 in the vital records of Concord, MA. Henry's marriages are thoroughly discussed in the literature (Cutter, NEHGS, Robert Peacock Brooks, Richardson Memorial, Torrey, etc.). The information in those articles has been summarized a number of times in posts to this list, and in founder thumbnails we posted perhaps two years ago, and can be found in the list archive. Folks new to these names can find more by downloading the first issue of Tributaries, a Brooks genealogy journal, at http://www.tributaries.org Or I can send an annotated narrative and bibliography for either or both of these men to anyone interested. I've found no marriage record for a Thomas Brooks/Grace ____ anywhere in the literature in this country. Recently, using the IGI batch number method that I posted to the list, I searched the indices of every English parish available on LDS film with baptismal/marriage records for the years 1590 to 1635. The results were no better. And most recently, as I posted to the list, I searched all of East Anglia and Lancashire in Boyd's Index of marriages. Once again, no Thomas/Grace are found. And after weeks of combing English record indices, I can say that there are many baptisms for men named Thomas, and some (but far fewer) for men named Henry; but I haven't found a single Henry and Thomas in the same parish at the same time. Furthermore, The Great Migration series will, by the next series, have passed both Thomas and Henry by, meaning, for all intents and purposes, that their emigration will never be known if it's not found in the next two years of coverage. It seems more likely as time passes that the reason such records have never been found by many prior researchers is that they simply don't exist. People have been looking for answers to these questions for 150 years! Of course, I still hope ... Two things I hope to see before I die are a Red Sox World Series win and the discovery of the origins of Thomas Brooks. I think the odds of the Red Sox are somewhat higher. :-) Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Hapgood Brooks Researching BROOKS Families of New England |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

"Hello again Cousins!" Just checked on World Connect and found some two hundred and forty-nine files now there having one Henry BROOKS married to one Grace WHEELER. Found some sixty-nine files there having one Thomas BROOKS married to one Grace WHEELER. Might any one of you have even one solid primary source for a marriage of a Grace WHEELER to any Henry BROOKS during the early 1600's. Same for a Grace WHEELER to any Thomas BROOKS during this same time period. It is of no consequence to me whether in North America or in the British Isles, but if any marriage has indeed been recorded for a Grace WHEELER and a Henry BROOKS or Thomas BROOKS, I would dearly appreciate learning of same! TTYL Craig

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:50:30 EST, [email protected] wrote: :Chris FYI - GOT THIS TWICE Yep, it was sent twice by accident. Sorry. Chris

Chris Got THIS TWICE Mike

Chris FYI - GOT THIS TWICE

Boyd's Marriage Index (1538–1840) East Anglia & Yorkshire: Year: 1631 Surname1: Brooks Sorename1: Gilb Surname2: Pledger Forename2: Sus Place: Widford County: Essex In other words, one Gilbert Brooks married, 1631 at Widford, Essex, Susan(na) Pledger. This marriage date does not work for Gilbert Brooks of Scituate, who we know was 14 years of age when he sailed on the Blessing in 1635. But might this be his father, remarrying? This was the only "hit" I got on the name Gilbert in Essex for the period 1610–1635. _The Great Migration Begins,_ 1:407, on Gilbert of Scituate, notes: "His early associations with WILLIAM VASSALL may indicate that Gilbert Brooks was from Essex in England [NGSQ 74:111]." Again from the website: "The original registers provide much more information than the index. eg. An index record: 1795 MUSSON, JN, KATH ABELL, DENBY. has the parish register entry: 25 August 1795 John Musson, of Eastwood, co Nottingham, aged 20 years, with consent of his mother, Mary Musson, widow, and Katherine Abell, aged 16, with consent of parents, by licence." Most parish registers in England are kept at county record offices. Microfilm copies of many registers were made by the LDS, and can be ordered from LDS Family History Centres. ESSEX: There are copies of the index at the Essex County Record Office and the Essex Archaeological Society. Essex Record Office also has offices in Colchester and Southend-on-Sea and Archive Access Points at Saffron Walden and Harlow. More information is given on the web site. Essex County Record Office Wharf Road, Chelmsford CM2 6YT Email: [email protected]" ================================= I ran out of pre-purchased "research credits" at this site before I could work my way through the preliminary hits. I never had a chance to see if the detailed register entries can be accessed at this site as well. I thought I would pass this on in case a descendant in the Scituate line was interested in following this thread. Chris

Year: 1614 Surname1: Brooks Forename1: Hen Surname2: Cornwell Forename2: Mary Place: Clavering County: Essex In other words, one Henry Brooks married, 1614 at Clavering, Essex, Mary Cornwell. Since we don't have a name for the first wife of Henry Brooks, why not? Then again, why? Before we hyperventilate, we should remember that only a handful of English counties are online as yet. Since this is again Essex, the contact information in the previous post will apply here as well. If any of you are wondering why the presumption that these men came from East Anglia, I recommend a readily available book by David Hackett Fischer called "Albion's Seed." It's a study of the persistence of English folkways in four regional early American cultures: the Puritans of New England, the Cavaliers of Virginia, the Quakers and Germans of the Delaware Valley, and the English/Scottish/Irish borders of the southern backcountry. There's a wealth of information on the Puritans and their connections with East Anglia, as well as on the region itself. The prose is graceful if workmanlike, very clear and straightforward, and the book is loaded with tables and first-rate maps. A fine bibliography is the frosting on the cake. Chris

I whiffed on this one in Boyd's Index. There are dozens of marriages of men named Thomas in the years 1610–1635, but not one to a Grace, be her surname Wheeler, Reynolds, or Veebelfester. I recently spent most of a weekend ransacking the IGI entries for English parish records with similar results: not a single marriage of a Thomas and Grace, or a Brooks child baptised to a Thomas and Grace. Chris

I whiffed on this one in Boyd's Index. There are dozens of marriages of men named Thomas in the years 1610–1635, but not one to a Grace, be her surname Wheeler, Reynolds, or Veebelfester. I recently spent most of a weekend ransacking the IGI entries for English parish records with similar results: not a single marriage of a Thomas and Grace, or a Brooks child baptised to a Thomas and Grace. Chris

Year: 1614 Surname1: Brooks Forename1: Hen Surname2: Cornwell Forename2: Mary Place: Clavering County: Essex In other words, one Henry Brooks married, 1614 at Clavering, Essex, Mary Cornwell. Since we don't have a name for the first wife of Henry Brooks, why not? Then again, why? Before we hyperventilate, we should remember that only a handful of English counties are online as yet. Since this is again Essex, the contact information in the previous post will apply here as well. If any of you are wondering why the presumption that these men came from East Anglia, I recommend a readily available book by David Hackett Fischer called "Albion's Seed." It's a study of the persistence of English folkways in four regional early American cultures: the Puritans of New England, the Cavaliers of Virginia, the Quakers and Germans of the Delaware Valley, and the English/Scottish/Irish borders of the southern backcountry. There's a wealth of information on the Puritans and their connections with East Anglia, as well as on the region itself. The prose is graceful if workmanlike, very clear and straightforward, and the book is loaded with tables and first-rate maps. A fine bibliography is the frosting on the cake. Chris

Boyd's Marriage Index (1538–1840) East Anglia & Yorkshire: Year: 1631 Surname1: Brooks Sorename1: Gilb Surname2: Pledger Forename2: Sus Place: Widford County: Essex In other words, one Gilbert Brooks married, 1631 at Widford, Essex, Susan(na) Pledger. This marriage date does not work for Gilbert Brooks of Scituate, who we know was 14 years of age when he sailed on the Blessing in 1635. But might this be his father, remarrying? This was the only "hit" I got on the name Gilbert in Essex for the period 1610–1635. _The Great Migration Begins,_ 1:407, on Gilbert of Scituate, notes: "His early associations with WILLIAM VASSALL may indicate that Gilbert Brooks was from Essex in England [NGSQ 74:111]." Again from the website: "The original registers provide much more information than the index. eg. An index record: 1795 MUSSON, JN, KATH ABELL, DENBY. has the parish register entry: 25 August 1795 John Musson, of Eastwood, co Nottingham, aged 20 years, with consent of his mother, Mary Musson, widow, and Katherine Abell, aged 16, with consent of parents, by licence." Most parish registers in England are kept at county record offices. Microfilm copies of many registers were made by the LDS, and can be ordered from LDS Family History Centres. ESSEX: There are copies of the index at the Essex County Record Office and the Essex Archaeological Society. Essex Record Office also has offices in Colchester and Southend-on-Sea and Archive Access Points at Saffron Walden and Harlow. More information is given on the web site. Essex County Record Office Wharf Road, Chelmsford CM2 6YT Email: [email protected]" ================================= I ran out of pre-purchased "research credits" at this site before I could work my way through the preliminary hits. I never had a chance to see if the detailed register entries can be accessed at this site as well. I thought I would pass this on in case a descendant in the Scituate line was interested in following this thread. Chris

The other night I blew £6 and bought 150 "credits" (meaning database hits) at http:www/englishorigins.com, which has been putting Boyd's Marriage Index online. I'll share what I found (and didn't find) in subsequent posts, but as background, here's a little of what the website says about this source: "Boyd's Marriage Index is an index to English marriages taken from copies of parish marriage registers, Bishop's Transcripts and marriage licenses, for the period 1538 to 1840 (when statutory registration began). It was principally the work of Percival Boyd, MA, FSA, FSG (1866–1955) and his staff. It was made at his expense between 1925 and 1955, and has since been expanded. "The index is particularly important to anyone researching East Anglian ancestry for not only is the coverage almost complete (over 95% of all the ancient parishes are included), but little of this data is available anywhere else (for example, the International Genealogical Index has very limited coverage of this area). "Origins.net are digitising the original printed index (Main Series first and then the First Miscellaneous Series) and will be adding the data to English Origins as each county is complete. "Currently available are the records for Cambridgeshire, Essex, Norfolk, Suffolk and Yorkshire. If you are searching marriages in one of these counties there is a high probability that it will be in the index." Note the limited number of counties online so far. This site bears watching as more volumes are uploaded.

Hi Marianne, I have been swamped but was entering your hypotheses and realized I can't come up with your last name to enter as a source. Can you help me out? A city and state of residence would allow me to make you a proper source. :-) I haven't gotten any further than Jacobus on descendants past Benjamin, but at least I'm in good company. :-) Did you ever manage to contact Chris Webber? He's the guy who cited the War Dept. correspondence with Delbert Radke, so it sounds as if he's your cousin. Or did anyone else on the list recognize this Benjamin? As/when you get this sorted out, I'd be interested in what you find. Thanks, Chris [email protected] wrote: : :I believe that the George Brooks you found is my George Brooks. :The pieces are beginning to fall together! :You gave me.... ...but when I searched for any George born 1780 I :found the following. "Mr. Delbert Radke, Attorney at Law in San :Francisco, CA wrote a letter to the Record and Pension Office of :the War Department dated December 19th, 1928 in which he states :that George Brooks was born on Aug. 29, 1780.... : :If I am correct, this Delbert Radke, is descended from George W. :Brooks --Julius Caesar Brooks' brother. They both are sons of the :George Brooks born in 1780. :Their mother was Mary Clark. : :Also given: : :The line as he has it is George, 1780 - 1850 Major John (1755 :- 1846) + Rachel BLIZZARD Jonathan (say 1722) + Sarah HUBBARD :Benjamin (1685) of Stratford, CT + Mary BOOTH John (say 1640) of :Stratford + Sarah OSBORN, widow John PEAT Jr. : :A kind soul gave me the information from the "Families of Old :Fairfield", but it stopped at Benjamin Brooks, now I'm searching :for anything on Jonathan Brooks and Sarah Hubbard. He is now my :missing link. Any help is appreciated.

Folks who are within driving distance of Grafton County, New Hampshire, or planning a summer visit to New England, may be interested in the resources at the Franconia Heritage Museum. The museum was founded with a bequest from a descendant of Luke Brooks, one of Franconia's early settlers, and endowed with a substantial collection of papers, diaries and artifacts collected over the years by Luke's descendants. Luke is claimed by the family as the first white man to spot the Old Man of the Mountain(s), the famous rock profile on the side of Cannon Mountain in Franconia Notch. (Down in Woodstock, however, just the other side of the notch, they claim their own locals as the discoverers of the profile. <g>) This year's exhibit theme is Families of Franconia. I have contributed a 36x80-inch color ancestral chart showing the various Brooks families of Franconia down to the present, which will become a permanent exhibit at the museum. As part of this year's focus, visitors will be offered the opportunity to fill out family group sheets to add to the museum's genealogical records, and the collected information will be incorporated into a revised chart which will replace my preliminary effort next year. (I will immodestly offer that the chart's a corker! -- 15 generations in three lines of descent from Capt. Thomas Brooks of Concord.) If you have a Grafton County Brooks connection, you'll want to consider visiting the museum this year. (Memberships are always welcome as well, even if you live far away but want to support the effort.) The museum has a web page at http://www.magnetic-north.com/FHM/findex.html Note: The website's email link isn't regularly checked, so telephone is the recommended means of contact, or email me personally and I'll try to be your "man on the ground." Exhibit opening is May 16th. Line of descent is from Capt. Thomas/1 Brooks of Concord, MA. Chris Christopher Brooks, List Administrator: ==================================== BROOKS-NE (Brooks Families of New England), HAPGOOD, and MERRIAM lists at RootsWeb. ==================================== [email protected]

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my brick wall - husband's family: William Curtis Brooks, said to be born in Franklin, VT March 16, 1826 to William C. and Lucinda (Mason) Brooks (farmer). He is said to have attended school in Franklin and Canada. He settled in Lovell, Maine. Marion Jane Patrick wrote: > And here in Canada we have the reverse--Brooks being assimilated into > French-speaking families and changing their name to Rousseau. This is still > happening. Makes it difficult to keep track! > > Jane Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Darrell E Holmes <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [BNE] Seabrook to Brooks transition? > > > I am a Brooks aka Rousseau, Yes, the Surname "Brooks," also comes > > from the Surname, " Rousseau," meaning in French "Flowing Brook, or > > Babbling Brook." > > Many Rousseaus' changed their French Surname from Rousseau to Brooks > > for a more American Name, during the 1800's and through their migration > > down into America from Canada and over from France. God Bless > > > > > > ==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== > > No answer to your query? Did you use a meaningful > > subject line? Did you provide enough information? > > Please try again in a month or two ... > > > > ==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== > Archives of previous posts are located at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BROOKS-NE-L/ > The address is case-sensitive.

Mike Shaw wrote: :Rueben Brooks. With many children, here is a list, all in NJ :at 1850. Meaning Rueben age 52 born in NJ around 1798, Catherine :Aby Fermay or Ferman born around 1805 in NY. states Rueben was a :ship Carpenter, : :Mother- Catherine looks like a" Aby" but records have fermay with :a child 19 name un readable starts with Y Mary- 17 phebe15 john13 :David 9 Henry- 7 my great great granddad Ellen 5 Jane 3 Rueben 4 :months : :If anyone has any other info it would help, so off to get the 1800 : Census to find Rueben's Dad There's a Reuben born around this time, probably at Deerfield, NJ, mentioned in Robert Peacock Brooks, with no date. He was the son of Zebulon Brooks and Mary Davis. Zebulon was in the line of Henry Brooks of Woburn, MA. (Henry's son Timothy removed from MA to West Jersey around 1700.) I mention this only as a possibility. I have nothing more, and there were many other Brooks lines in NJ by that time. Undoubtedly BROOKE or BROOKS emigrants continued to arrive in nearby Philadelphia throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. Reference: Brooks, Robert Peacock. "Henry Brooks and His Descendants, with Reference to New Jersey Settlers," New Jersey Historical Society Proceedings, pp. 40-49 (1927). Congratulations on the breakthrough! Chris