On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:28:49 EST, [email protected] wrote: :Just want to be sure that you know that Cheshire Henry Brooks had :one brother, John, who "removed" to Fairfield, but he only had :daughters, so the Brooks name ran out on that line. Yes, but one daughter, Hannah, is known to have married Daniel Abbot(t) and had issue, so there's always more to research for the truly compulsive. :-) Chris

Bob Have some info from mass, if you would like

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:12:05 -0500, Robert Brooks wrote: :The most unusual name I can link was my Great Great grandfather :who was William Sayres Brooks. William Heysham SAYRE m. Elizabeth Mitchell Brooks. She was of Philadelphia, a descendant of Capt. Thomas Brooks. Esther SAYRE m., 1798 in Cumberland County, NJ, Ira Brooks of the Woburn line. Prudence Ann SAYRE m., prob. about 1840 in Chenango County, NY, Elijah Perry/7 Brooks. He's of the Glastonbury line. Naomi/9 Brooks, born around 1821, prob. Cumberland County, NJ, married Harry SAYRE. Overall, I've got 11 instances of the SAYRE surname, and every blessed one of them is somehow connected with the Philadelphia/Jersey region, as is the name in general. On the other hand, the Brooks spouses here really have nothing in common but their name. Run a Google search on "Sayre(s) + genealogy" and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Unfortunately, once you get into the Philadelphia/Jersey melting pot, it's very difficult to figure out who is who, for reasons I've mentioned previously. Even in the events above, a simplified "pool" where only New England Brooks families are cited, there are three different lineages for the cluster of four individuals. Chris

Just want to be sure that you know that Cheshire Henry Brooks had one brother, John, who "removed" to Fairfield, but he only had daughters, so the Brooks name ran out on that line. Off to the Netherlands Tuesday, back the 22nd, so expect a very full mailbox unless Chris can figure out something. Jean

Chris; Orange County is right along the Hudson River, and does extend to the NY/NJ/ PA borders. All of the Brooks I have seen in the 1800's Census have been in the Eastern part of the county. Near the Hudson River. And may have moved from Ct between 1790 and 1800. I will do some more research on my end, d whenI have a list of names for John D's siblings, and paents will post it to the group. Unfourtunatly nothing after 1840 indicated that any of my line of brooks's had rare names. Seems most of them were James, Fred, or William,. The most unusual name I can link was my Great Great grandfather who was William Sayres Brooks. I assume maybe incorrectly that Sayres was his mothers maiden name or a family name. His son also a William was named William Hill Brooks, his mothers maiden name. I will see if I can pickup the books on the Ct line of Brooks's, and see where that leads. Thanks for the help. Bob At 07:59 PM 3/27/02, Christopher Brooks wrote: >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:04:54 -0500, Robert Brooks wrote: > >:Family lore lists Ma as the area the family came from, but I do >:not know what that information was based on. > >If you can give me multiple names (male given names, particularly) >that you know are related, I can run a search on my own data for a >family with a similar constellation in Massachusetts. Obviously, the >chances improve with the number of names you can connect and with >their rarity. If you had a Rufus or a Leander or a Theophilus in >there, the chances would, obviously, improve substantially. :-) > >I've just pulled up a county map of NY. Orange is on the Pennylvania >state line. Its easternmost portion also appears to be only about 25 >miles from Fairfield and Litchfield Counties, CT. There is a poorly >documented Brooks line in Fairfield County which appears without an >emigrant progenitor in one John Brooks, who marries, 1685 at >Stratford, Fairfield, CT, the widow Sarah (OSBORN) Peat. Some of the >line can be reconstructed from Barbour listings of various Fairfield >towns, and Jacobus does his usual masterful job in "History and >Genealogy of the Families of Old Fairfield" (1930), but only as far >as he takes them ... Half a dozen sons, born 1730 to 1745, have >nothing beyond mention of their birth, so they would appear to have >removed from their birthplace. You might take a look at this work on >the basis of geographical proximity to Orange County. Or post some >names to the list and I'll see if they're found in either Fairfield >or Litchfield Counties. > >If your folks are from PA, I can't help you ... > >Chris > > >==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== >Changing email addresses? Preparing ahead of >time can save both you and your listowner a >headache. Write [email protected]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:04:54 -0500, Robert Brooks wrote: :Family lore lists Ma as the area the family came from, but I do :not know what that information was based on. If you can give me multiple names (male given names, particularly) that you know are related, I can run a search on my own data for a family with a similar constellation in Massachusetts. Obviously, the chances improve with the number of names you can connect and with their rarity. If you had a Rufus or a Leander or a Theophilus in there, the chances would, obviously, improve substantially. :-) I've just pulled up a county map of NY. Orange is on the Pennylvania state line. Its easternmost portion also appears to be only about 25 miles from Fairfield and Litchfield Counties, CT. There is a poorly documented Brooks line in Fairfield County which appears without an emigrant progenitor in one John Brooks, who marries, 1685 at Stratford, Fairfield, CT, the widow Sarah (OSBORN) Peat. Some of the line can be reconstructed from Barbour listings of various Fairfield towns, and Jacobus does his usual masterful job in "History and Genealogy of the Families of Old Fairfield" (1930), but only as far as he takes them ... Half a dozen sons, born 1730 to 1745, have nothing beyond mention of their birth, so they would appear to have removed from their birthplace. You might take a look at this work on the basis of geographical proximity to Orange County. Or post some names to the list and I'll see if they're found in either Fairfield or Litchfield Counties. If your folks are from PA, I can't help you ... Chris

Chris; Thanks. I had the census index data, I still have to get copies of the actual census, but will. I thought maybe someone on this list had already found a Brooks relative that was in the Orange County, NY area. There are Brooks listed in a couple of towns in Orange, some seem to be related and others do not. I am sure that there must be a common thread somewhere, I just have not found it yet. Family lore lists Ma as the area the family came from, but I do not know what that information was based on. But I will find out, I hope. Based on the 1790's census data looks like they moved into the area between 1790 and 1800. Unless the 1790's data is very incomplete. Thanks for the help!! Bob At 02:31 PM 3/27/02, Christopher Brooks wrote: >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:19:45 -0500, Grumpy wrote: > >Bob, > >I'm trying to ease my way OUT of the lookup business a bit, not >wiggle deeper into it. :-) I posted the census index yesterday to >enable new subscribers such as yourself to take your own look. > >In addition to looking for parent links, the index can be invaluable >in tracing migration and settlement patterns, particularly when the >given name you're after is rare among Brooks families. (I noticed >Ichabod yesterday -- I've only come across three Ichabods, so he >ought to be a cinch to track with that moniker.) The household >composition numbers also tell you whether Ichabod's household was >young, in-between or elderly, and whether a family had slaves or >servants. > >In Orange County, NY, my 1800 census index records six BROOKS heads >of household. The numbers following their names represent grouping of >household members into gender and age categories. If you need to >widen an 1800 search to include other counties, I will refer you to >the list archive for the statewide listings I typed and sent in >yesterday. Links to the list archive appear in every other message >distributed via this list, and the link is also included in the >welcome message you received when you joined us. If you need help >with the census categories, I will refer you to the excellent link >Carol Pullen-Reynolds posted earlier today: >http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/1264.asp > >=========================== >ORANGE COUNTY, NY, 1800 census index, BROOKS only: > >Benjamin, 20110-10100-00 >John, 21201-11010-01 >Jonathan, 10102-11010-06 >Michael, 20001-00101-00 >Nathaniel Jun., 00010-30010-00 >Thomas, 00210-00000-03 >=========================== >Good luck, > >Chris > >Christopher Brooks, List Administrator: >==================================== >BROOKS-NE (Brooks Families of New England), > HAPGOOD, and MERRIAM lists at RootsWeb. >==================================== > [email protected] > > > >==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== >No answer to your query? Did you use a meaningful >subject line? Did you provide enough information? >Please try again in a month or two ...

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:11:41 -0500, Jim Nolan wrote: :Chris, : :I compared your post for Brooks in Vermont census (1790 Federal) :to the index at Ancestry.com. There was one more person in their :index. :Here is their list compared to yours. Mine doesn't compare very well, does it? Again, folks, use this stuff only as a finding name. I can tell you from yesterday's daylong experience that making typos in transcribing the number strings is as natural as breathing. :-) Thanks for the heads-up, Jim. Had I noticed the MIS in your signature, I might have been expecting it. :-) GIGO. Chris

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:19:45 -0500, Grumpy wrote: Bob, I'm trying to ease my way OUT of the lookup business a bit, not wiggle deeper into it. :-) I posted the census index yesterday to enable new subscribers such as yourself to take your own look. In addition to looking for parent links, the index can be invaluable in tracing migration and settlement patterns, particularly when the given name you're after is rare among Brooks families. (I noticed Ichabod yesterday -- I've only come across three Ichabods, so he ought to be a cinch to track with that moniker.) The household composition numbers also tell you whether Ichabod's household was young, in-between or elderly, and whether a family had slaves or servants. In Orange County, NY, my 1800 census index records six BROOKS heads of household. The numbers following their names represent grouping of household members into gender and age categories. If you need to widen an 1800 search to include other counties, I will refer you to the list archive for the statewide listings I typed and sent in yesterday. Links to the list archive appear in every other message distributed via this list, and the link is also included in the welcome message you received when you joined us. If you need help with the census categories, I will refer you to the excellent link Carol Pullen-Reynolds posted earlier today: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/1264.asp =========================== ORANGE COUNTY, NY, 1800 census index, BROOKS only: Benjamin, 20110-10100-00 John, 21201-11010-01 Jonathan, 10102-11010-06 Michael, 20001-00101-00 Nathaniel Jun., 00010-30010-00 Thomas, 00210-00000-03 =========================== Good luck, Chris Christopher Brooks, List Administrator: ==================================== BROOKS-NE (Brooks Families of New England), HAPGOOD, and MERRIAM lists at RootsWeb. ==================================== [email protected]

While browing through census data, I found the following: PA-----Columbia------Bloomsburg------Dist 166 (Sheet 36) B. F. Brooks. No wife. Children: Laura, Emma, William, Della, Clark and Sadie.

was just unclear as to the #s after the name

OK Thanks

Good Morning Listers -- I thought it might be helpful to recommend a site at Ancestry.com that will educate us to what each census schedule tells us: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/1264.asp While Ancestry requires subscription to view their data -- the library does not. There is a wealth of information including the dates that the censuses were taken, questions asked in each enumeration, significant facts about the census, and research tips to help you get the most from these valuable resources. I remember it wellllll - I looked at my first census, barely able to make out what was written and wondered, "What good is this?" I've since learned :-) Good day to you all -- Carol Pullen-Reynolds

Chris: Cornwall, NY would be in Orange County, New York. Thanks; Bob At 02:44 AM 3/27/02, Christopher Brooks wrote: >On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:43:16 -0500, Robert Brooks wrote: > >:I'm have just started tracking down some of our family history. >:And I am hoping that someone will be able to help me out. >: >:I'm trying to track down information on a John D Brooks he was >:Born about 1800 lived and died in Cornwall NY. > >Sorry, I don't recognize your man. I don't know which county Cornwall >is in, but the census index I posted earlier this evening will tell >you what heads of household were in the county in 1800. > >Chris > >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| >Christopher Hapgood Brooks >Researching BROOKS Families of New England >|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > > > >==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== >To unsub, send [email protected]��jthe word UNSUBSCRIBE to > [email protected] >or [email protected]

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 19:43:16 -0500, Robert Brooks wrote: :I'm have just started tracking down some of our family history. :And I am hoping that someone will be able to help me out. : :I'm trying to track down information on a John D Brooks he was :Born about 1800 lived and died in Cornwall NY. Sorry, I don't recognize your man. I don't know which county Cornwall is in, but the census index I posted earlier this evening will tell you what heads of household were in the county in 1800. Chris |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Christopher Hapgood Brooks Researching BROOKS Families of New England ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 00:46:59 EST, [email protected] wrote: :Chris Thank you for all this info, But what, how can I use it, not :to sound Dumb? I think you need to build yourself more of a foundation in order to be able to move forward. Have you visited the library and taken home a couple of "starter" genealogy books? If the census is the next place you plan to look for family information, then read up on it. I know you haven't, or you wouldn't be asking me this. :-) I think most genealogists are self-taught. I know I am. I'm sorry, but I can't be your "job coach" here. Too many chores and plans, too little time. Chris

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:53:29 EST, [email protected] wrote: :REMOVE ME : : :==== BROOKS-NE Mailing List ==== To unsub, send ONLY the word :UNSUBSCRIBE to [email protected] or BROOKS-NE-D :[email protected] You may remove yourself. See the instructions above, which you overlooked, on how to do this. Chris

1792 STATE CENSUS: ADDISON COUNTY: Samuel, Fairfield Samuel Jr., Fairfield 1800 U.S. CENSUS: ADDISON COUNTY: Alpheus, Middlebury, 01031-00122-00 Cephas, Middlebury, 01101-11010-00 Samuel, Bristol, 01201-20101-00 Samuel, Lincoln, 30010-20010-00 BENNINGTON COUNTY: David, Manchester, 20010-10010-00 John, Winhall, 11010-01210-00 CALEDONIA COUNTY: Lemuel, Montpelier, 00210-20100-00 Thomas, Montpelier, 20010-21010-00 FRANKLIN COUNTY: Adonijah, St. Albans, 10211-01001-00 Azariah, St. Albans, 02010-10010-00 Ebenezer, Johnson, 20010-00010-00 Eleazer, St. Albans, 10110-20100-00 Jonathan, Swanton, 11001-10111-00 Roger, Georgia, 20010-10010-00 ORANGE COUNTY: John, Randolph, 10010-00010-00 Joshua, Randolph, 10010-00010-00 Timothy, Randolph, 10010-10010-00 RUTLAND COUNTY: Jonas, Orwell, 10010-00100-00 Joseph, Ira, 31010-10010-00 Peter, Clarendon, 40010-10010-00 Thomas, Benson, 21010-22010-00 WINDHAM COUNTY: Asa, Halifax, 31010-21010-00 Dan, Dummerston, 32011-21011-00 Ephraim, Guilford, nothing further Ephraim, Newfane, 10010-20010-00 Israel, Guilford, 00100-00100-00 Lemuel, Marlborough, 01101-01101-00 Nathaniel, Hinsdale, 00101-01001-00 Samuel, Hinsdale, 10010-10010-00 Thaddeus, Whitingham, 11210-00100-00 WINDSOR COUNTY: Ebenezer, Plymouth, 10100-10100-00 Elam, Hartford, 01110-01001-00 Jonathan, Chester, 00100-10100-00 Nathaniel, Chester, 10010-20010-00 Reuben, Bethel, 20010-20010-00 Samuel, Reading, 11010-30010-00 Simeon, Bethel, 32010-20010-00 Solomon, Chester, 00010-20010-00 * * * * * *

NEWPORT COUNTY: John, 00000-00000-60 PROVIDENCE COUNTY: Thomas, 00000-00000-30 William S., 30010-10100-00 * * * * * *

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