This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tedryan64 Surnames: Brogan, Glenn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.brogan/681.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jay, My name is Mary Brogan Ryan. John J. (Ike) Brogan was my great-grandfather, and this is quite a bit of interesting family history. You may know some of it already. How are you related to John J. and Alice? Michael Brogan & Catherine McFowen were born in Ireland, but I only have names for them - no dates. Their son was John Brogan, born in Donegal, Ireland. B: Apr. 1840, D: 14 Oct. 1921 in Philadelphia. He was married to Mary Harrington. B: Dec. 1839 in Ireland. D: 25 Mar 1906 in Philadelphia. Their children (and this is wear it gets confusing) were: Daniel Brogan. B: Jan 1862 in PA. D: 1 Sep1910 Philadelphia Margaret E Brogan. B: Dec. 1864 in Philadelphia, D: 4 Jun 1937. Phila. Ellen Brogan (Sister Victor SSJ.) 1866 Phila. - 4 Oct. 1965 Phila. Next the twins: John Brogan. 17 Jul 1868 - 8 Mar 1869 Phila. Thomas Cyril Brogan. 17 Jul 1868 - 1934 Phila. Then: Kathryn Brogan 1871 - 12 Dec 1914 * Michael Brogan Oct 1872 - 9 Dec 1923 Phila. Michael (who actually went by the nickname Ike) changed his name to John Joseph Brogan. I can't tell you exactly why he did that, only that he did, perhaps to match his father's name? This is the man who married Alice Frances Glenn. Then 2 more kids: Mary Brogan (Mother Marie Gertrude SSJ) 1875 - ? Phila. Elizabeth (Lizzie Brogan) 1878 Phila. - 11Sep 1941 Baltimore. I am not sure if you are aware of the tragedy the struck this family. Ike and Alice had 6 children: John Joseph 1900-1959 Joseph Thomas Brogan 1901-1965 (my grandfather) Mary Frances Brogan 1904-1913 Victor Brogan 1906-1913 Thomas Brogan 1909-1913 Gertrude M. Brogan 1911-1994 Apparently, the family had just moved into their new home. The oldest son, John, was in the hospital with pneumonia. Ike was at a Knights of Columbus meeting. Alice had a history of mental illness, and apparently something snapped. She began murdering the children by cutting their throats with a kitchen knife. She killed Mary, Victor, and Thomas. My grandfather, Joe, was about 12 at the time. He grabbed the baby, Gertrude, and ran into one of the bedrooms and locked the door, saving their lives. There are articles in the Philadelphia Inquirer in the 4 August 1913, and 5 August 1913 editions. Many of the Brogan men were in the ornamental stone cutting business, and at least one was a mortician. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>