Nancy, You might want to try to obtain the book on the Warnick family by Walter Warnick. His e-mail address is ashlie@erols.com. I have found his data to be very reliable. All the best to you, -- Michelle R. Staggs : Pendleton County Genweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvpendle/ http://members.xoom.com/mstaggs/ or http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/6079/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/a/Michelle-R-Staggs/

>From "Pioneer Families of Missouri" page 307 Broadwater, Charles L, an Englishman, came to America a short time before start of the Revoluntionary War. When it began he joined the US Army. He married Betheler Sebastian & they had 3 ch: *George, *William E, & Anna M Broadwater. *George Broadwater m Catherine Gunnel & they had 7 ch: Ann M, Henry, Arthur, John C H, Elizabeth, Thomas, & George Jr. All but Arthur settled in MO. *William E Broadwater m Margaret Darne & they had 3 ch. Names not given. After William died they came to MO with their mother & settled at Callaway Co 1833. This Charles Broadwater m Betheler Sebastian is most probably related to my ancestor *Broadwater Matney according to some researchers. Would like to know more about this Charles L Broadwater & the families in MO. Also interested in knowing about the Broadwater families of Scott Co, VA. Carol in WA.

Hi everyone, My name is Nancy Somerville and I just joined the list. My Great Great Grandmother was Isabelle Broadwater wife of James Kight and daughter of WIlliam C Braodwater and Mary Jane Warnick Most of the information I have on the Broadwater's came from "A Sketch of the Broadwater Family and its Connections" by Amos Broadwater I would love to learn more and meet my many distant cousins Nancy Nancysomer@aol.com

I swiped this from the Lindsay list ! l;-) Thought is might be interesting to some one. Dan ================= ** Web Sites of Interest ** FAMILY WORKINGS http://www.familyworkings.com/ They have 750 Links, subcategorized, 630 Ancestor Queries, Adoption Queries, 5,500 Surname listings in their Gedcom Database from 22 submitters, 50 Volunteer Researchers, 400 Obits (New and Old), Cemetery research, a search engine to their web site, a bulletin board and a chat room. HOW TO GET PAST GENEALOGY ROAD BLOCKS http://www.firstct.com/fv/stone.html Our Brickwall - This list gives you all kinds of places to look. RESEARCH IT! Internet Tools http://www.itools.com/research-it/ Language Skills Dictionary English Computing Rhyme Pronounce Thesaurus English Translator Universal Specific Other Language Identifier French Conjugator Anagram French Acronym Library Tools People Biographical Religion Bible Quotations English Geographical Tools Maps USA Only US Streets World More Maps Telephone USA & Canadian Area Codes Area Code to City Toll Free 800 Directory Facts CIA Factbook Financial Tools Currency: Converter Stock Markets: Stock Quotes & FindingTicker Symbols Shipping & Mailing Tools Postal Codes Shipping: Tracking UPS & FED EX Packages Then there is also FIND IT! which you'll find the link to at te top of the page. FIND IT! is a place you can look for things in the WWW, software libraries, Usenet newsgroups and look for people. These are all clickable links that will take you to a page where you can do more advanced searches. CAN ANYONE STOP SPAM? http://www.cnet.com/Content/Features/Howto/Stop/index.html?st.tv.cn I jbass@digital.net 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 LINDSAY, HARRISON & CSA-HISTORY Roots Mail List Home of The *HARRISON* Repository & *MY FAMILY* http://moon.ouhsc.edu/rbonner/harintro.htm Data Managed by Becky Bass Bonner and Josephine Lindsay Bass

OK on those copies, hang on ; I am looking for some more research that goes with it! Then I will post the message to contact me in private with "copies" in the subject line so I can sort them . Does this sound OK? Dan

I had thought about doing web searches to find new members for the mail list and to join us, I have got a lot to do now, how about you all making invites when ever you encounter a web site or make a contact with some one INVITE them to our family !!!!! OK ??? K;-) Dan Pep talk you know!

I am working on the web page once again. I would like to know who and what any one would like to add to , like query, naratives ; and the like ! Included is the web page URL I have a little to do on whats there, I have an extrapage "Host Page" it dupes some things so ignor the dupes. Please check it out and let me know who would like to add any thing ! Or a personal page on it. At this time I have no URLs on it I took them all down to make a better page of them. I would like some full family help like some of you are my line and it would be nice to cover JAMES : JOHN and JEFF better !! Also we need more family involvement here! So for I have not seen any one related to Carrol B Matney online, I will see if I can find anyone. This web site covers ALL names we work with and ALL my lists are advertised there! I wont use any pictures till my other site is ready. I have a 100 meg site and a domain comming up very soon, the domain is a charge, and the web site is a charge so I will let you know when its set up, its all paid up! We can be known as ??? name??? Genealogy Group, I thought Matney, but we are also doing lots of other names ? Matney Genealogy Group (giving allied surnames)? web page http://www.angelfire.com/or/matney/ We can mull this over ! Dan

Yes, the letter can be passed around. At the bottom the author gives permission to circulate the message. Be sure and keep his info. on the bottom of the message. Adrianne ----Original Message----- From: Dan <wb@wvi.com> To: Kee46@email.msn.com <Kee46@email.msn.com> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 12:41 PM Subject: RE Your letter ? >Hi !! >Hey! I was wondering if I could expand your letter to my lists , about the >copy right stuff ? >Thanks; >Dan =============Read the letter bellow=============================== ============================================================== - House Clears Copyright Act The present U.S. Copyright Act was last revised in 1976, long before the online world became popular. I am sure that the lawmakers who framed the 1976 copyright laws never envisioned the issues created by the World Wide Web. As a result, many people have questioned what is legal or illegal online? Even worse, thousands of people have unknowingly violated copyright laws when creating Web pages or when offering databases online. Of course, this problem isn't limited just to genealogy Web pages. But genealogists have certainly had problems with the present laws. Corporations and private individuals alike have copied data, graphics and music without permission. Of course, doing that opens up the possibility of fines and lawsuits. I list new home pages at the end of most of these newsletters. When I spot check them, I am appalled at how many of them have graphics that obviously came from someplace else. Many have text information that obviously was extracted from genealogy books, I suspect some of these books still fall under copyright laws. And time and time again I hear music sound clips, almost all of them are obvious copyright violations. If your Web site has a .WAV file of "Born Free" or "The Wind Beneath My Wings" or any other song that still falls under copyright laws, you could face a significant fine. Think about it. This past week Congress passed legislation to safeguard copyrights for music, software, and written works on the Internet and to outlaw technologies that can crack devices protecting this property. The act has specific language to protect databases, with some exceptions. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act was approved by a House voice vote. The same act was passed by the Senate in May. You can find more information about this at: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C24928%2C00.html?sas.mail and at http://www.gpo.gov/congress/cong009.html (search on "copyright", then look at H.R. 2281). ============================================================== COPYRIGHTS: The contents of this newsletter are copyright by Richard W. Eastman and by Ancestry Publishing and by others so designated. You are hereby granted rights, unless otherwise specified, to re-distribute articles from this newsletter to other parties provided you do so strictly for non-commercial purposes. Please limit your re-distribution to one or two articles per newsletter; do not re-distribute the newsletter in its entirety. Also, please include the following words with any articles you re- distribute: The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 1998 by Richard W. Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Thank you for your cooperation. ==========================================================

Indiana has an on line searchable marriage index for 1850 and earlier marriages. There is just about any name that you might need on the list. http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html

Hi, My name is Michelle Rosedale Staggs. I have many Broadwater's in my Murphy, Wilt, and Paugh lines. You can view my genealogy at the Geocities link below. If anyone sees any connection, please let me know. I'm always anxious to exchange information and add to the understanding of my family. Many thanks, -- Michelle R. Staggs : Pendleton County Genweb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvpendle/ http://members.xoom.com/mstaggs/ or http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/6079/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/t/a/Michelle-R-Staggs/

I have writtin 3 messages to people who unsubbed yesterday. They subscribed, never made any query or let any one know they were on the list. 2 did not reply to my Welcome message I give in private, 1 I missed some how . The answer to my qustion about unsubbing was ( they got no information in the line they was looking for ! ) Folks please post at least once before giving up so the rest of the people here know you, and who you are looking for ! Thanks Dan Matney

>From my research notes are these misc marriage lists & data for the surname Broadwater : Scarbrough m Francis Houston 6 Mar 1759 Coventry Parish, Somerset, MD. Margaret m Wm Henderson 21 Dec 1780 Montgomery, MD Sarah m John Marshall 20 Aug 1860 Worcester, MD. Peggy m John W Nock 18 Dec 1797 Accomack Co, VA Louisa M m John R Fletcher 19 Mar 1850 Accomack Co, VA Martha m John Anderson 1800 Botetourt Co, VA Joshua m Dorcas Muse 21 Apr 1794 Craven Co, NC Susan m James Tingle 29 Sep 1820 Craven Co, NC William m Polly Pearce 11 Oct 1833 Craven Co, NC C E (male) m M E Cooper 4 May 1865 Copiah Co, MI C H (male) m Mary Ella Walton 7 Mar 1880 Hinds Co, MI William B m Sarah Yager 16 Aug 1855 Montgomery Co, IL Ben m Vina Hawkins at Lincoln Co, MO M E (female) m L F West 1878 Dallas Co, MO Stephen P m Charlotte Winters (Allegany, MD ?) Lewis m Elizabeth Hardy (SC ?) James Baker m Margaret Elizabeth Lorden (UT ?) Cornelius m Mary Piper abt 1776. Cornelius b abt 1758 England. Following are descendents of Cornelius & Mary Broadwater: Sally m Morrell Holden. Charles abt 1778 VA, d 1869 MD, m Mary Magdelena Beavers 1802. Guy b abt 1780, d 1862, m Nancy Piles. Elizabeth m William Walls. Nancy b abt 1786 MD m John Barnes. William m Rebecca Green 14 Mar 1813 Allegany Co, MD Samuel b abt 1789, d 1864, m Nancy Layton. Amos Sr b 1804 Loudoun Co, VA, d 1901 MD, m Sarah Sigler Garrett Co, MD. The following are ch of Amos Sr & Sarah Broadwater: Catherine b 1808 m Joseph Skidmore, then Henry Green; William m Hester Broadwater.; John A m Mary Custer; Lydia m Jefferson Green; Jefferson m Elizabeth Custer; Eliza m Simeon Green; Sarah Jane m Peter Bittinger; Amos Jr m Sarah Bittinger; Harriet m Jacob Blocher; David m Eliza Comer; Thomas; Isabel m Peter Stephens; Eli m Susan Harman; Ashford m Caroline Taylor. Allegany Co, MD marriages of Broadwater: Nancy m John Baines 9 Jan 1813 Catharine m George Michael 7 Jul 1827 Jefferson m Mary Recknor 14 Mar 1832 Henry m Rosanna Myer 19 Apr 1834 William m Hester Broadwater 1 Oct 1848 Lonaconing, MD Rebecca m James Patterson Turner 29 Dec 1852 Mary E m Solomon Brooks 22 Aug 1853 William E m Sarah Ann Weitzel 11 Jan 1861 Scott Co, VA marriages of Broadwater: John m Winnie Kilgore 1813 Martha m John W Banner 20 Dec 1842 Charles K m Melvina Moore (see cemetery records) Stephen F m Eliza Ann Quillen William m Polly Fuller 5 Oct 1838 Mary E m T Jefferson Fuller 14 Feb 1843 Nancy m Elijah C Gillenwater 25 Nov 1847 Martha E m J J Quillen 1870 Charles C m Mary LaRue Culbertson 4 Aug 1881 Elizabeth Harris Broadwaters b 5 Nov 1820 Scott Co, VA, d 23 Nov 1896 Rolla, Phelps Co, MO, bur Beaver Cemetery, S of Rolla, MO. George Broadwater m Elizabeth Godwin 14 Mar 1794 Queen Anne Co, MD. Notes: John Matney b 1794 Queen Anne Co, MD, d 5 Jan 1878 Buchanan Co, MO. m Elizabeth A Foggett 1820. res 1830 Adair Co, KY. Ch: James A m Cassandra Tobin, then Mrs Martha S Davis; William Marion m Catherine Ann Bretz; Thomas b 1827, d 1860 CA; George W d infancy; Catherine A m Bogardt; Henry J b 1835, d 1886 Butte, MT; Mary Jane m Alexander Greenwell; Benjamin F d in Civil War; Margaret Ellen m James K Parish res MO; Nancy m Marshall Locke res MO; Elizabeth d infancy. Notes: Culbertsons in Scott Co, VA Rev. Ira Culbertson m Mary Catharine Matney of Queen Anne Co, MD. Ira s/o Andrew Culbertson who came to America from Londonderry, IRL, previously from Scotland & d 1749 of Cumberland Valley, VA. Their son David Johnston Culbertson b 1853 res Scott Co, VA. 1875 he lived with an uncle at Rich HIll, MO & then 1885 moved to Huntsville, Randolph Co, MO where he later m Cordelia Skaggs d/o W C W Skaggs. 2 daus: Susanna who m George Jackson 1912 & aft widowed res Baldwin Park, CA. Mary Catharine Culbertson m James Franklin Klink 1912 Columbia, MO. From book Old Families of Randolph Co, MO. Edited by Howard Wight Marshall, The Randolph Co, Historical Society 1976. >From Kegley's Virginia Frontier 1740-1783, Index Broadwater, Ann m James Tosh pg 540; Martha m John Anderson pg 541; Charles pg 535, 546, 548. >From Annals of Montgomery Co, VA pg 283 1799 Botebourt Co, VA Court Records: Ordered that Elizabeth Page & John McCulley, orphan children, be bound to James Tosh according to law. >From Pioneer Families of Missouri pg 307 Charles L Broadwater, an Englishman, came to America just before the Rev. War & joined the American Army during it. He m Behethlar (Bethelar ?, CS) Sebastian. They had 3 ch: George, William E & Anna M. son George Broadwater m Catharine Gunnell & had 7 ch. All but Arthur settled in MO. Ann M, Henry, Arthur, John C H, Elizabeth, Thomas & George Jr. son William E Broadwater m Margaret Darne & had 3 ch. After he died she & the ch settled at Callaway Co, MO.

Thanks for doing that, Bob. I didn't think to look for a web page. I'm glad she is still writing. According to her bio she grew up in Grundy VA where there were a passel of Matneys. Grundy is in Buchanan County VA. As for Cantrells, I don't think we have any Matney Cantralls either but another name she uses is Justice, which is related. She talks about 'gypsys' in this book (Granny Y does) which were the Melungeons being researched now, thought to have Puerto Rican roots mixed with Indian, found especially in Wythe County but evident in all those hill counties. What I typed is just an example of hill speech, and this Van Cantrall has an interesting background, probably typical of this area, so I'm not saying we have these family names, these are just common hill names, like the Hatfields and the McCoys. Ya'all can laugh at me but it helps my research when I study the history of the area and I get a feeling for the place and the times. I frequently read fiction for this reason because these authors have to do historical research to make their stories believable, but the keyword here is *fiction*-I read English historical fiction for years and consequently can remember parts of the Royal lineage and learned an awful lot about antiques. Historical tomes don't have a plot, aren't as interesting reading. Norma Robert Beverly wrote: > > Hi Norma. > > Interesting reading -- that little excerpt from Lee Smith. It sparked > some interest here, and so I did a little web search and found her > official home page. If you're interested, here's the URL: > > http://www.beca.org/fotl/leesmith/index.html > > Bob > p.s. I don't personally know of any of my Broadwaters' connections to > any Cantrells.

Hi Norma. Interesting reading -- that little excerpt from Lee Smith. It sparked some interest here, and so I did a little web search and found her official home page. If you're interested, here's the URL: http://www.beca.org/fotl/leesmith/index.html Bob p.s. I don't personally know of any of my Broadwaters' connections to any Cantrells.

>> Does anyone know of a Broadwater/Earp relationship? << No, but I do know that ol' Guy Broadwater was a surveyor and surveyed a lot of land early on in the Northern Neck area of Virginia. He is still one of my primary suspects as being the father of my Charles Broadwater (wife, Nancy ____?____) of Botetourt Co., VA. If memory serves, Guy died without leaving a will. Bob

Hello Everyone: I just picked up a Lee Smith novel. Have any of you read them? This one is called "Oral History" published 1983, earlier ones were "Cakewalk" and "Black Mountain Breakdown". I always loved Catherine Cookson because she wrote in Cockney dialect (English), and this author writes in Hillbilly dialect. Lee Smith has also written "The Last Day the Dogbushes Bloomed", "Something in the Wind", "Fancy Strut", and she's written for several mags,including Carolina Quarterly and Southern Exposure. Her expertise is in the SC NW mountains. The first chapter is by Granny Younger - names she uses are familiar ones to our Matneys and Broadwaters, some of our McCullys are from NC, this is all hill country. I'm just going to type some of the dialogue for the names and the language - if you want to know the plot you'll have to round up the books. Maybe we can look for them and trade paperbacks. My space bar isn't working all the time so if I run words together hope you can figure it out. "His Daddy, Charles Vance Cantrell, was a big old man as mean as a snake and hard on women and children. He had him one gold tooth in the front. Charles Vance Cantrell was Irish or so he said at one time. He had him a long gold chain with a big watch on it that had some dates and "Dublin" carved into the back,but don't you know he lost it in a poker game at old Joe Johnson's store like he lost those mules and everything else he owned sooner or later except his land, and Lord knows it's surprising how he never lost that too. He never put up his land. Anyway, Charles Vance Cantrell - they called him Van - was a fat old man who gambled a lot and would just as soon strike you as speak. He come by ship, he said, and then by wagon, and they was religion mixed up in it someway,but of course you couldn't never prove it by Van Cantrell. He brung that wife of hisn, that Nell, from Ireland with him,or so we thought, although wasn't nobody sure since she was so ashy-pale and she never said a word until Van went off to fight in the war after which she perked right up. It would have been all right with me if she had not, now that's the truth. I never give a fig for Nell. Anyway, Van went off through Indian Grave Gap, over Snowman Mountain and down into West Virginia, where he joined up with the Union. Nobody knowed if he joined with the Union out of principle or because, what I thought, it was the quickest army to get to, and Van Cantrell ever loved a fight. Now some men hereabouts took up one side or the other. There was nary a slave in the county. So they done what they felt to do.It split some families down the middle. I'll tell you that. Churches too. They is a church in Abingdon that to this day has got one door for those who stood with the Union in the war and one door for Johnny Reb, and this is true, and I'll swearit. To this day Van Cantrell stayed with the army as long as he could,and lost one leg above the knee afore he come home.Things were different when he got back, he found out right away. Old Nell was up and farming! She had planted her some cabbage and some corn; she had three hogs on the side of Hurricane Mountain. She never got back in bed neither. She didn't have to, since Van was laid up hisself and couldn't get around like he used to do. Thank God! is what she thought. But she needed some help of course, and so she had them three boys right in a row- stairstep boys, with Almarine in the middle. The other two, Riley and Shelby Dick, took after their daddy, and they growed up a fighting and a-fussing just like him. They would throw your wash off the line.I've seed it, they tromped on their mama's beans. It was clear from the beginning that they would kill each other or get kilt theirselves before they was through, which is what they nearabout did. To be continued:

One Guy BROADWATER, along with Wm W. BOYLSTONE and Charles THRIFT, rendered the inventory on John EARP in Fairfax Co. VA 19 Mar 1744. Does anyone know of a Broadwater/Earp relationship? Thanks for any help, Sharron Spencer

Hello Carol99@aol.com I appreciate your posting that info. on the Broadwater cemetery at Copper Creek. Thank you! Does anyone on this list have any photos of any of these grave markers which you can send me? Robert Beverly Great-great-great-great-grandson of John BROADWATER and Winnie KILGORE Hoping and waiting . . . .

Well that made quite a mess here, guess the cross posts for some one who in on all the lists is gonna have to delete a FEW, I just put it order of the subject and did a highlight and hit the delete key took about 4 senconds to dump the extras. ----------

more notes with numbers Maney ? Matney? Barbary 1301 Barnett 1320 William 1319 BeBad 1304 Fanny 1303 Geo 1310 James Jr. 1314 James W 1305 John 1307 John C 1302 John J 1313 L.M. 1311 Lucinda 1318 M.B. 1312 Madison 1309 Martin 1306 Mary 1308 MaryCaroline1315 Nancy 1317 Sally K 1316 ------- I was told it cost $20 to open these file, but that was before the Cherokee Nation and other sites have put up search sites, I have heard of these, never been there yet, some one might like to take on one name or so just to find out anything. On any on the Indian posting ? Specially Mamie ! Previous posts Dan Matney in Oregon