[email protected] I have recently subscribed and am posting the following information that I have regarding my Broadhurst ancestors. My maternal grandmother was Margaret Ann Bramhall, the oldest daughter of Margaret Broadhurst and her husband Joseph Bramhall. According to notes that my mother left, her maternal grandmother, Margaret Broadhurst, was born at home in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England in approximately 1855. She was the oldest child of Andrew Broadhurst. The family lived at 26 York Street (I assume in Dukinfield). Her siblings, Charlotte, Andrew (Jr), & Simeon, were also born at 26 York St. Margaret Broadhurst's mother (I have no record of her name) died at a young age ( in abt 1877-1885) and her father, Andrew, remarried and took Andrew, Jr and Simeon to live with them. Charlotte and Margaret were raised by Eliza. Charlotte married a man with the last name of Perry. The following is a descendant outline I put together for Andrew Broadhurst, Margaret Broadhurst's father. I am interested in learning more about the family. I don't know if any of my ancestors with the name Broadhurst migrated to North America. However, if anyone has a lineage that connects with them, I would appreciate more information. Norm Gardner [email protected] Descendants of Andrew Broadhurst, Sr 1 Andrew Broadhurst, Sr b: Abt 1830 in England d: Abt 1880 in England . +Wifeof Andrew Broadhurst, Sr b: Abt 1830 in England d: Abt 1860 in England ... 2 Margaret Broadhurst b: Abt 1850 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England d: Abt 1885 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England ...... +Joseph Bramhall: Abt 1850 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England? d: Abt 1888 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England ? ........ 3 James Bramhall, b: Abt 1876 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England d: February 16, 1924 in Ashton Under-Lyne, England ........... +Sarah Jane ? b: Abt 1880 in England? d: April 18, 1931 in Ashton Under-Lyne, England ........ 3 Margaret Ann Bramhall b: December 1, 1877 in Dukinfield, Cheshire, England d: March 27, 1959 in Baton Rouge, La, ........... +Charles Cassidy b: Abt January 1869 in England d: December 9, 1922 in New Bedford, Mass, USA .............. 4 Phyllis Margaret Cassidy b: August 2, 1902 in Ashton-Under- Lyne, England d: October 11, 1961 in Baton Rouge, La, USA ................. +Henry Gardner b: April 18, 1905 in Preston, Lancashire, England d: January 5, 1974 in Athol, Mass, USA ........ 3 Ada Bramhall b: 1881 in Dukinfield , Cheshire, England? d: November 21, 1912 in Ashton Under-Lyne, England ........... +Unknownfirstname Barron b: Abt 1880 in England ........ 3 Eliza Bramhall b: Abt 1870 in Dukinfield , Cheshire, England? d: Unknown ........... +Uknownfirstname Walker b: Unknown d: Unknown .............. 4 Irvine Walker b: Abt 1900 d. Unknown ........ 3 Joseph Bramhall, b: Abt 1880 in Dukinfield , Cheshire, England? d: Unknown ........ 3 Samuel Bramhall, b: Abt 1882 in Dukinfield , Cheshire, England? ... 2 Charlotte Broadhurst b: Abt 1852 d: Unknown ...... +Uknownfirstname Perry b: Unknown d: Unknown ... 2 Andrew Broadhurst, Jr b: Abt 1858 in England d: Abt 1952 in Yorkshire, England ... 2 Simeon Broadhurst b: Abt 1856 d: Unknown

Kelly - I searched carefully through my records, and I cannot find evidence that the John Broaddus who married Martha Thornley was the John W. in the lineage you gave. I am happy to receive more accurate information from you. Thank you, too, for the additional information about your line in your last post. Ed Broadus On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, KNeum230 wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I have looked at everything I have on my Broaddus's. I do not have John W. > Broaddus as being married twice. I didn't realize this, but I have more > people to add to my direct line. Here is a revised listing: > > -Edward Broaddus > +Mary Shipley (2nd wife, 1st wife unknown) > --Thomas Broaddus (from Ed's 1st wife) > +Ann Redd > ---Thomas Broaddus (The book does not indicated if they are Sr and Jr) > +Martha Jones (1st wife) > +Ms. Watkins (2nd wife - they had no children) > ----Thomas Broaddus > +Martha Jones > -----John W. Broaddus B: 1807 in Caroline Co., VA D: 1874 > +Elizabeth Elkin Taliaferro > ------Alexander Hairston Burks B: 1817 > +Ellen T. Broaddus > -------Bettie Woodford Burks B: 7/20/1848 > +William Robert Jones B: 8/15/1845 in Nelson Co, VA > --------Robert Alexander Jones B: 12/22/1874 in Amherst Co, VA D: > 12/8/1957 > +Fannie Ethel Hudson B: 4/17/1887 in Amherst Co, VA D: 3/17/1969 > ----------Ruth Katherine Jones B: 7/28/1918 in Appomattox, VA > +Reuben Randall Owens B: 9/16/1918 in Wilson, NC D: 1/6/1988 > -----------Jo Ann Owens B: 10/12/1949 in New York, NY > +Franklin William Neumann, Jr. B: 9/2/1946 in Baltimore, MD > -------------Kelly Ann Neumann B: 8/8/1973 in Lynchburg, VA > > > Here is a little info on John W. Broaddus (1807 - 1874) born in Caroline Co., > VA. > He was Justice of the Peace for Amherst Co., VA in the 1840's. He enlisted > March 10, 1862 for the Civil War for a period of three years. He served in > Company B, 9 Regiment Virginia Calvary, known as "Capt. Samuel A Swann's > Company. > > This information came out of Roots, Shoots, and Runners > By Pauline Englehart Burks. > > Please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. > > Sincerely, > > Kelly > > >

Hi Ed, I have looked at everything I have on my Broaddus's. I do not have John W. Broaddus as being married twice. I didn't realize this, but I have more people to add to my direct line. Here is a revised listing: -Edward Broaddus +Mary Shipley (2nd wife, 1st wife unknown) --Thomas Broaddus (from Ed's 1st wife) +Ann Redd ---Thomas Broaddus (The book does not indicated if they are Sr and Jr) +Martha Jones (1st wife) +Ms. Watkins (2nd wife - they had no children) ----Thomas Broaddus +Martha Jones -----John W. Broaddus B: 1807 in Caroline Co., VA D: 1874 +Elizabeth Elkin Taliaferro ------Alexander Hairston Burks B: 1817 +Ellen T. Broaddus -------Bettie Woodford Burks B: 7/20/1848 +William Robert Jones B: 8/15/1845 in Nelson Co, VA --------Robert Alexander Jones B: 12/22/1874 in Amherst Co, VA D: 12/8/1957 +Fannie Ethel Hudson B: 4/17/1887 in Amherst Co, VA D: 3/17/1969 ----------Ruth Katherine Jones B: 7/28/1918 in Appomattox, VA +Reuben Randall Owens B: 9/16/1918 in Wilson, NC D: 1/6/1988 -----------Jo Ann Owens B: 10/12/1949 in New York, NY +Franklin William Neumann, Jr. B: 9/2/1946 in Baltimore, MD -------------Kelly Ann Neumann B: 8/8/1973 in Lynchburg, VA Here is a little info on John W. Broaddus (1807 - 1874) born in Caroline Co., VA. He was Justice of the Peace for Amherst Co., VA in the 1840's. He enlisted March 10, 1862 for the Civil War for a period of three years. He served in Company B, 9 Regiment Virginia Calvary, known as "Capt. Samuel A Swann's Company. This information came out of Roots, Shoots, and Runners By Pauline Englehart Burks. Please let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. Sincerely, Kelly

On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, KNeum230 wrote: > Please let me know if there are any connections. Thanks Kelly > > > -Thomas Broaddus > +Martha Jones > --John W. Broaddus > +Elizabeth Elkin Taliaferro > ---Alexander Hairston Burks B: 1817 > +Ellen T. Broaddus > ----Bettie Woodford Burks B: 7/20/1848 > +William Robert Jones B: 8/15/1845 in Nelson Co, VA > -----Robert Alexander Jones B: 12/22/1874 in Amherst Co, VA D: 12/8/1957 > +Fannie Ethel Hudson B: 4/17/1887 in Amherst Co, VA D: 3/17/1969 > -------Ruth Katherine Jones B: 7/28/1918 in Appomattox, VA > +Reuben Randall Owens B: 9/16/1918 in Wilson, NC D: 1/6/1988 > --------Jo Ann Owens B: 10/12/1949 in New York, NY > +Franklin William Neumann, Jr. B: 9/2/1946 in Baltimore, MD > ----------Kelly Ann Neumann B: 8/8/1973 in Lynchburg, VA > I would be interested in knowing more about this line. In my records I have John W. Broaddus married to Martha Jane Thornley. I have one child listed - Lucy Smith Broaddus - who was b. in 1855 and who married Henry Judson Cole in 1876 in Caroline Co., VA. Beyond that I have several children and grandchildren of Lucy and Henry. Perhaps someone who reads this knows whether John W. Broaddus was married twice - to Martha Jane Thornley and to Elizabeth Elkin Taliaferro. Ed Broadus

Please let me know if there are any connections. Thanks Kelly -Thomas Broaddus +Martha Jones --John W. Broaddus +Elizabeth Elkin Taliaferro ---Alexander Hairston Burks B: 1817 +Ellen T. Broaddus ----Bettie Woodford Burks B: 7/20/1848 +William Robert Jones B: 8/15/1845 in Nelson Co, VA -----Robert Alexander Jones B: 12/22/1874 in Amherst Co, VA D: 12/8/1957 +Fannie Ethel Hudson B: 4/17/1887 in Amherst Co, VA D: 3/17/1969 -------Ruth Katherine Jones B: 7/28/1918 in Appomattox, VA +Reuben Randall Owens B: 9/16/1918 in Wilson, NC D: 1/6/1988 --------Jo Ann Owens B: 10/12/1949 in New York, NY +Franklin William Neumann, Jr. B: 9/2/1946 in Baltimore, MD ----------Kelly Ann Neumann B: 8/8/1973 in Lynchburg, VA

Hello everyone, Just thought I would let you know that we have about 42 members now. We are slowly growing in numbers, and as the word gets out I'm sure we will have additional subscribers. I think it's time to again post our Broadhurst lines. New members will not have seen them, and "old" members may see something they missed the first time. Below is my husband's line (he's a "double" Broadhurst descendant--from the marriage of cousins). The direct line is shown in all caps, and to save space I have removed some of the generations of non direct ancestors, but may have info. if you want it. Let me know if we have a connection. I would especially like to know more about the ancestors of the 1st Joseph Broadhurst. What is the prettiest, or most pleasing, Broadhurst name you've found? We have an "Amery Eliza Broadhurst," which I think sounds very nice. Who'll be next????? Descendants of Joseph BROADHURST 1 Joseph BROADHURST ..+Sally (Sarah) FAUBION b: 1770-1772 Fauquier Co., Virginia d: 14 March 1808 Tennessee (Probably Cocke Co.) m: 01 October 1788 Fauquier Co., Virginia .....2 Rebecca Broadhurst b: Abt. 1789 Tennessee d: 14 January 1859 Henry Co., Missouri .........+Malcom Gragg .....2 John BROADHURST, Sr. b: 18 April 1791 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: 04 April 1878 Clay Co., Missouri .........+Mary (Milly) Unecy TURNER b: 1790 Buncombe Co., North Carolina d: 1877 Clay Co., Missouri m: Abt. 1809 Greene Co., Tennessee ............. 3 [11] Jacob Broadhurst b: 04 November 1811 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: 24 April 1874 Clay Co., Missouri .................+[10] Sarah Broadhurst b: 22 January 1816 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: 17 June 1886 Clay Co., Missouri m: 20 March 1832 Clay Co., Missouri ............. 3 Henry Broadhurst b: 1815-1820 Howard Co., Missouri d: Bef. 18 August 1837 Clay Co., Missouri .................+Margaret (Peggy) Faubion b: 1818 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: November 1869 Jefferson Co., Kansas m: 16 March 1837 Clay Co., Missouri ............. 3 [19] Sarah "Sally" Broadhurst b: 1825-1826 Clay Co., Missouri d: Bef. 1878 ............. 3 [20] Mary Broadhurst b: 1825-1830 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: Aft. 1885 .................+[21] Thompson Margaulin m: 28 March 1848 Clay Co., Missouri ............. 3 [22] John M. "Creek John" Broadhurst, Jr. b: 24 October 1826 Clay Co., Missouri d: 23 July 1886 Clay Co., Missouri .................+[23] Louisa Jane Faubion b: 16 March 1828 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: 25 February 1904 Drexel, Bates Co., Missouri m: 10 October 1844 Clay Co., Missouri ............. 3 [9] Ephraim BROADHURST b: Abt. 1827 Clay Co., Missouri d: 02 December 1874 Ray Co., Missouri .................+[24] Brunetta F. FAUBION b: 17 April 1829 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: Abt. 1865 m: 24 August 1848 Clay Co., Missouri .....................4 William H. BROADHURST b: 29 July 1849 Clay Co., Missouri d: 29 February 1912 .........................+Millie Margaret LEWIS b: 15 February 1833 Missouri d: 16 January 1928 m: 1867 .............................5 Burnette/Brunetta "Nettie" BROADHURST b: 03 March 1870 Missouri d: 11 June 1942 Ray Co., Missouri ................................. +James Isaac "Jim" McCOY b: 29 May 1858 Missouri d: 13 July 1950 Ray Co., Missouri m: 19 March 1884 Ray Co., Missouri .....................................6 William A. "Willie" McCoy b: 08 November 1886 Missouri d: 14 June 1887 Ray Co., Missouri .....................................6 John C. (G.?) "Johney" McCoy b: 20 November 1887 Missouri d: 19 January 1899 Missouri .....................................6 Bert Henry (Hugh?) "Bertie" McCoy b: 28 February 1890 Missouri d: 10 April 1988 Excelsior Springs, Clay Co., Missouri .........................................+Nellie/Nettie B. Bollinger b: March 1890 Missouri m: 10 November 1915 Ray Co., Missouri .....................................6 [7] Bessie Ann McCOY b: 17 May 1892 Ray Co., Missouri d: 07 February 1920 Orrick, Ray Co., Missouri .........................................+Andrew W. "Andy" Bates b: 23 July 1889 d: 03 January 1908 Ray Co., Missouri m: 15 September 1907 Rayville, Ray Co., Missouri .....................................*2nd Husband of [7] Bessie Ann McCOY: .........................................+Bovard ARNOLD b: 23 June 1889 Camden, Ray Co., Missouri d: 05 December 1965 Orrick, Ray Co., Missouri m: 21 June 1911 Richmond, Ray Co., Missouri .....................................6 [8] Jessie May McCoy b: 16 June 1895 Missouri .........................................+Edward Smith m: Mosby, Clay Co., Missouri .....................................*2nd Husband of [8] Jessie May McCoy: .........................................+George C. Walker d: 03 December 1918 m: 23 December 1913 Ray Co., Missouri .....................................6 James Raymond McCoy b: 09 September 1900 Missouri .........................................+Mary/Sarah Gorham/Graham m: 24 February 1921 .....................................6 Deward I. McCoy b: 26 December 1903 Missouri d: 18 December 1975 .........................................+Edna Marie King .............................5 John Broadhurst b: 1878 Missouri .....................4 [14] John M. Broadhurst b: 27 September 1852 Missouri d: 07 July 1907 Milford, Barton Co., Missouri .........................+[13] Harriet Jane Faubion b: 16 December 1853 Platte Co., Missouri d: 24 February 1931 m: 18 February 1869 Clay Co., Missouri .....................4 Jacob Broadhurst b: Abt. 1854 Clay Co., Missouri .....................4 Charity Broadhurst b: Abt. 1858 Missouri .....................4 Virginia Sylvia (Sylvania) "Ginnie" Broadhurst b: 04 March 1858 Clay Co., Missouri d: 26 September 1943 Orrick, Ray Co., Missouri .........................+James D. Maddox .....................4 Sarah Broadhurst b: Abt. 1860 .....................4 Joseph Broadhurst b: April 1861 Clay Co., Missouri d: 28 January 1899 Orrick, Ray Co., Missouri .........................+Malinda _____ .....................4 Moses Broadhurst b: Abt. 1862 .....................4 James Broadhurst b: Abt. 1863 Missouri .....................4 Cynthia Broadhurst b: Abt. 1863 .....................4 Almida Broadhurst b: Abt. 1865 ............. *2nd Wife of [9] Ephraim BROADHURST: .................+Mary E. McKissock m: 06 November 1865 Ray Co., Missouri .....2 Joseph Broadhurst b: 11 September 1794 Greene Co. (now Cocke Co.), Tennessee d: 18 April 1871 Ray Co., Missouri .........+Dianah Faubion b: 01 April 1798 Cocke Co., Tennessee d: 02 November 1871 Clay Co., Missouri m: 1815 Tennessee .....2 Ephraim Broadhurst b: Tennessee .........+_____

On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, dave leininger wrote: > ED.... > > the address for Carol Hauk is as follows > > Carol Hauk > Hauk Data Servides > P. O. Box 1577 > Anderson Indiana, 46014 > > A better book with some more intereting "titbits" can be found at UMI > take a look at > http://www.umi.com/hp/Support/BOD/index.html > > Request information on the book "History of the Broaddus Family" > > or call 1-800-521-3042 (Books on Demand) > > BTW the "correct" spelling of Broaddus is with the 2 s'es and is > explained in the book in a rather funny way. > > daVe leininger (really a Broaddus at heart) At least my mom is %^) > > Edwin Broadus wrote: > > > > First of all, thanks, Judy, for all your work in setting up the archives. > > I tried them out, and got 19 "hits" when I entered "Broadus." > > > > Recently I came across a book, "Descendants of Edward Broaddus of > > Virginia," published by Hauk Data Services, Anderson, IN, 1995, compiled > > by Carol A. Hauk. I had only a few minutes to examine it while visiting a > > library on recent travels. Apparently it has information of descendants > > through children and grandchildren who remained in Virginia. It has > > almost nothing about descendants through Edward's son, Richard, who > > happens to be my ancestor. But there are several hundred names in the > > book. > > > > Are any of you acquainted with this book? What is your evaluation of it? > > Where can it be ordered and for how much? (I don't have an address for > > Hauk Data Services.) > > > > Ed Broadus > Dave, Thanks for the address for Carol Hauk and for the information about howto find Andrew Broaddus' book on the Broaddus Family. Although I have a copy of my own, I sometimes have others enquire about where to obtain one. As you might guess, I have a different opinion on the "correct" spelling of "Broad(d)us." Actually, in my own branch of the family we have wavered and forth between the number of "d's" to use. I've always used one, which has saved me an immense amount of labor when one calculates how much time I would have used in 66 years to write the extra "d" each time. Anyway, as you have pointed out, no matter whether one spells it "Broaddus" or "Broadus," it is still an incorrect spelling of Broadhurst." Ed Broadus

Edwin Broadus wrote: > > First of all, thanks, Judy, for all your work in setting up the archives. > I tried them out, and got 19 "hits" when I entered "Broadus." > > Recently I came across a book, "Descendants of Edward Broaddus of > Virginia," published by Hauk Data Services, Anderson, IN, 1995, compiled > by Carol A. Hauk. I had only a few minutes to examine it while visiting a > library on recent travels. Apparently it has information of descendants > through children and grandchildren who remained in Virginia. It has > almost nothing about descendants through Edward's son, Richard, who > happens to be my ancestor. But there are several hundred names in the > book. > > Are any of you acquainted with this book? What is your evaluation of it? > Where can it be ordered and for how much? (I don't have an address for > Hauk Data Services.) > > Ed Broadus HI ED, I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT BUT IF YOU FIND ANYTHING ELSE OUT LET ME KNOW. RHONDA

First of all, thanks, Judy, for all your work in setting up the archives. I tried them out, and got 19 "hits" when I entered "Broadus." Recently I came across a book, "Descendants of Edward Broaddus of Virginia," published by Hauk Data Services, Anderson, IN, 1995, compiled by Carol A. Hauk. I had only a few minutes to examine it while visiting a library on recent travels. Apparently it has information of descendants through children and grandchildren who remained in Virginia. It has almost nothing about descendants through Edward's son, Richard, who happens to be my ancestor. But there are several hundred names in the book. Are any of you acquainted with this book? What is your evaluation of it? Where can it be ordered and for how much? (I don't have an address for Hauk Data Services.) Ed Broadus

Hello everyone, Sorry for duplicate messages, but I wanted to get this out as soon as possible so you can start having fun! The RootsWeb archives search is now working at the address below. I've included some of the limitations noted by Karen. But it's easy to use, and will get better as they get the threaded messages functioning, etc. If any of you don't have web access, let the list know. Someone will volunteer to do the search and send you the results. The archives are for 1997, and the part of 1996 after RootsWeb took over the MAISER lists. At some point they hope to add those, too. If you appreciate having this access, send a message to Karen and Brian. You can use the "webmaster" e-mail address at the bottom of the main screen. > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >It does assume you know the name of the list you want to search. But it's >not too fussy about how you type it: for the SMITH list, you can ask for >smith, Smith, SMITH, smiTh-L, and SMith-D, and still succeed. It includes >messages through about a week ago. I'll add new messages every week >or two. (It took literally hours to do the indexing, and we'll have >to turn the search off whenever we reindex, so this will only be done >every few weeks unless we find a solution.) > >We haven't turned on the threaded archives for all lists yet (and we won't >for those who have specifically opted out) -- Brian still needs to make >some tweaks to the system to protect against web-crawling >address-sniffers. (This isn't a danger with the non-threaded search engine >I just put up, where the messages are hidden behind the search engine.) > >Besides the lists that definitely don't want to participate (you know who >you are <grin>), the following lists aren't available for searching due to >space constraints: > > GEN-MEDIEVAL > GEN-SLAVIC > GENCMP > GENMSC > GEN-DE > GEN-FF > GEN-FR > >and a handful of non-genealogy lists. > >Finally, this is an interim approach. The proverbial "half a loaf". ;-) >The system we want to have is one where you type something in the search >box, are returned a list of possible hits, you then select one of the >hits, and presto! are in a threaded message base so that, if you want, you >can scoot up and down the thread that contained the message of interest, >post a response to the sender or to the list, as appropriate. The current >system won't do that... I also don't have control (or don't know that I >have control) over the format of the page of matches, nor of the displayed >message. Lots of room for improvement. Stay tuned? > >Karen > > > Let me know if you find someone! Judy Judith Marshall Arnold ([email protected]) My Favorite Bible Verses: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html Genealogy Site: http://www.flash.net/~judyad/ COMING SOON: Grey Hare'd Graphics!

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > BROADHURST-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 17 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Announcment: RootsWeb Message ["David M. Leininger" <[email protected]] > #2 Re: BROADHURST-D Digest V97 #16 [scott peterson <[email protected]>] > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Announcment: RootsWeb Message Archives, Changes Coming > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:51:00 +0000 > From: "David M. Leininger" <[email protected]> > To: Judy Arnold <[email protected]> > CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > I like the Idea, I hpoe it works!!! > > daVe Leininger (Broaddus) > > Judy Arnold wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I'm forwarded excerpts from a message listowners received from > > Karen Isaacson of RootsWeb yesterday. This is the first I've heard > > of this arrangement, so any of you listowner-members who may know > > more about the situation, please feel free to enlighten us. It > > seems that the archives of the lists are going to be put on > > webpages for any and all (at least RootsWeb members) to access. You > > may ask for archives for any list, even those to which you do not > > belong. Archives will not be available via e-mail. Lists may choose > > to have their archives on the web or not, but there can be no > > selective choosing (for instance, I won't be able to say that I > > don't want my ancestral lines included, but I would like ancestral > > lines included). We're all in this together. I can see positives > > and negatives about both. > > > > Will you please read the following information and let me know what > > your thoughts are on the matter? Remember, at least after the > > effective date, there will be little flexibility. We either all > > archive, list by list, or we don't archive at all. I am editing the > > message I got to save a little space. What do you think? > > > > Judy > > > > > > > >Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, > > >the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for > > >RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, > > >so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective > > >mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. > > > > > >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning > > off the > > >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has > > shown > > >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large > > lists), > > >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and > > hard > > >on the system administrators > > > > Once the new tools are in place, this old horse > > >is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web > > >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who > > will > > >do lookups for those without web access.) > > > > > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. > > >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the > > >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded > > >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages > > >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky > > >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on > > http://searches.rootsweb.com). > > >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all > > that > > >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional > > >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded > > and > > >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded > > >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we > > >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the > > target. > > > > > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial > > >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why > > >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that > > >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some > > >of which hit closer to home than I like. Anything that > > >requires more work from the system administration people is almost > > >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that > > >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember > > passwords > > >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem > > >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we > > haven't > > >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so > > automatically), > > >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. > > >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't > > >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be > > >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords > > >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no > > passwords, at > > >least not for now, probably never. > > > > > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools > > >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to > > >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of > > >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be > > >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there > > >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, > > >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise > > >ratio will still be quite high. > > > > > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your > > >list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow > > >the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to > > your > > >reject list the address "[email protected]". (If you go to > > >your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the > > >bottom, then and only then, write to [email protected] and ask > > >that the address [email protected] be added to the reject > > >list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note > > >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, > > >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative > > >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If > > you > > >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we > > >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from > > >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all > > >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just > > >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > > > > > >6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her > > messages > > >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. > > >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) > > You can > > >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see > > >below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the > > >cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to > > >[email protected], etc. etc.) > > > > > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide > > time > > >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and > > >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make > > >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online > > before > > >then. > > > > > >Karen > > > > > > > > > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] > > My Favorite Bible Verses Page: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html > > All in Good Time Genealogy Page: > > http://www.flash.net/~judyad/ > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: BROADHURST-D Digest V97 #16 > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 11:16:07 -0600 > From: scott peterson <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > Subject: > > > > BROADHURST-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 16 > > > > Today's Topics: > > #1 Alderson-Broaddus College [Edwin Broadus <[email protected]] > > #2 Announcment: RootsWeb Message Arch [Judy Arnold <[email protected]>] > > > > ______________________________ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Subject: Alderson-Broaddus College > > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:55:53 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Edwin Broadus <[email protected]> > > To: Broadhurst List <[email protected]> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:41:55 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Edwin Broadus <[email protected] > > > > Awhile back Judy Arnold raised a question about the Broaddus connected > > with Alderson-Broaddus College in West Virginia. I had previously sent an > > e-mail message to a person at the school, and yesterday I received a > > packet by regular mail. The Broaddus involved was William Francis > > Ferguson Broaddus. He apparently had nothing to do with the founding of > > the school other than being an inspiration and encouragement to a minister > > named E. J. Willis. Willis took over a school in Winchester, Va., called > > Winchester Institute, and the following year (1873) he renamed it Broaddus > > Female College, in honor of his friend, Wm. F. Broaddus. Later the school > > was moved to West Virginia and combined with Alderson Academy and Junior > > College. > > > > Broaddus himself had earlier mainted a boarding school at Middleburg, > > Virginia (prior to 1840). He opened another one, for women, in > > Fredericksburg Va., but this closed at the time of the Civil War. He > > moved then to Charlottesville, returning to Fredericksburg several years > > later, where he died. > > > > Broaddus was born about 1791 and died in September 1876. He was twice > > married, to Mary Ann Farrow and to Lucy Ann Fleet. His parents were > > Thomas Broaddus and Susannah Ferguson White. Thomas in turn was the son > > of William Broaddus and Catherine Gaines. William was the son of Edward > > Broaddus by his second marriage, to Mary Shipley. > > > > There is considerable material about William F. Broaddus in Andrew S. > > Broaddus' book, "The Broaddus Family." > > > > Ed Broadus > > > > ______________________________ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Subject: Announcment: RootsWeb Message Archives, Changes Coming > > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:48:15 -0600 > > From: Judy Arnold <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I'm forwarded excerpts from a message listowners received from > > Karen Isaacson of RootsWeb yesterday. This is the first I've heard > > of this arrangement, so any of you listowner-members who may know > > more about the situation, please feel free to enlighten us. It > > seems that the archives of the lists are going to be put on > > webpages for any and all (at least RootsWeb members) to access. You > > may ask for archives for any list, even those to which you do not > > belong. Archives will not be available via e-mail. Lists may choose > > to have their archives on the web or not, but there can be no > > selective choosing (for instance, I won't be able to say that I > > don't want my ancestral lines included, but I would like ancestral > > lines included). We're all in this together. I can see positives > > and negatives about both. > > > > Will you please read the following information and let me know what > > your thoughts are on the matter? Remember, at least after the > > effective date, there will be little flexibility. We either all > > archive, list by list, or we don't archive at all. I am editing the > > message I got to save a little space. What do you think? > > > > Judy > > > > > > > >Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, > > >the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for > > >RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, > > >so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective > > >mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. > > > > > >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning > > off the > > >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has > > shown > > >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large > > lists), > > >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and > > hard > > >on the system administrators > > > > Once the new tools are in place, this old horse > > >is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web > > >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who > > will > > >do lookups for those without web access.) > > > > > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. > > >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the > > >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded > > >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages > > >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky > > >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on > > http://searches.rootsweb.com). > > >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all > > that > > >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional > > >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded > > and > > >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded > > >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we > > >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the > > target. > > > > > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial > > >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why > > >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that > > >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some > > >of which hit closer to home than I like. Anything that > > >requires more work from the system administration people is almost > > >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that > > >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember > > passwords > > >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem > > >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we > > haven't > > >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so > > automatically), > > >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. > > >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't > > >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be > > >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords > > >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no > > passwords, at > > >least not for now, probably never. > > > > > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools > > >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to > > >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of > > >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be > > >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there > > >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, > > >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise > > >ratio will still be quite high. > > > > > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your > > >list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow > > >the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to > > your > > >reject list the address "[email protected]". (If you go to > > >your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the > > >bottom, then and only then, write to [email protected] and ask > > >that the address [email protected] be added to the reject > > >list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note > > >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, > > >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative > > >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If > > you > > >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we > > >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from > > >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all > > >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just > > >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > > > > > >6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her > > messages > > >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. > > >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) > > You can > > >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see > > >below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the > > >cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to > > >[email protected], etc. etc.) > > > > > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide > > time > > >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and > > >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make > > >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online > > before > > >then. > > > > > >Karen > > > > > > > > > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] > > My Favorite Bible Verses Page: > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html > > All in Good Time Genealogy Page: > > http://www.flash.net/~judyad/ > Judy I read what you sent and will have to have my husband read over > it. he know more about computer stuff than I do. We are looking on > info on the Judge Andrew S. Broaddus who was born in Caroline Co. Va., > and died in Texas. there was a note in your stuff about a book on the > Broaddus family sent in by Ed broaddus. Do you know anything about the > book? > thanks > Rhonda

[email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > BROADHURST-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 16 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Alderson-Broaddus College [Edwin Broadus <[email protected]] > #2 Announcment: RootsWeb Message Arch [Judy Arnold <[email protected]>] > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Alderson-Broaddus College > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:55:53 -0400 (EDT) > From: Edwin Broadus <[email protected]> > To: Broadhurst List <[email protected]> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:41:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: Edwin Broadus <[email protected] > > Awhile back Judy Arnold raised a question about the Broaddus connected > with Alderson-Broaddus College in West Virginia. I had previously sent an > e-mail message to a person at the school, and yesterday I received a > packet by regular mail. The Broaddus involved was William Francis > Ferguson Broaddus. He apparently had nothing to do with the founding of > the school other than being an inspiration and encouragement to a minister > named E. J. Willis. Willis took over a school in Winchester, Va., called > Winchester Institute, and the following year (1873) he renamed it Broaddus > Female College, in honor of his friend, Wm. F. Broaddus. Later the school > was moved to West Virginia and combined with Alderson Academy and Junior > College. > > Broaddus himself had earlier mainted a boarding school at Middleburg, > Virginia (prior to 1840). He opened another one, for women, in > Fredericksburg Va., but this closed at the time of the Civil War. He > moved then to Charlottesville, returning to Fredericksburg several years > later, where he died. > > Broaddus was born about 1791 and died in September 1876. He was twice > married, to Mary Ann Farrow and to Lucy Ann Fleet. His parents were > Thomas Broaddus and Susannah Ferguson White. Thomas in turn was the son > of William Broaddus and Catherine Gaines. William was the son of Edward > Broaddus by his second marriage, to Mary Shipley. > > There is considerable material about William F. Broaddus in Andrew S. > Broaddus' book, "The Broaddus Family." > > Ed Broadus > > ______________________________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Announcment: RootsWeb Message Archives, Changes Coming > Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 21:48:15 -0600 > From: Judy Arnold <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > Hello everyone, > > I'm forwarded excerpts from a message listowners received from > Karen Isaacson of RootsWeb yesterday. This is the first I've heard > of this arrangement, so any of you listowner-members who may know > more about the situation, please feel free to enlighten us. It > seems that the archives of the lists are going to be put on > webpages for any and all (at least RootsWeb members) to access. You > may ask for archives for any list, even those to which you do not > belong. Archives will not be available via e-mail. Lists may choose > to have their archives on the web or not, but there can be no > selective choosing (for instance, I won't be able to say that I > don't want my ancestral lines included, but I would like ancestral > lines included). We're all in this together. I can see positives > and negatives about both. > > Will you please read the following information and let me know what > your thoughts are on the matter? Remember, at least after the > effective date, there will be little flexibility. We either all > archive, list by list, or we don't archive at all. I am editing the > message I got to save a little space. What do you think? > > Judy > > > > >Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, > >the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for > >RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, > >so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective > >mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. > > > >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning > off the > >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has > shown > >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large > lists), > >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and > hard > >on the system administrators > > Once the new tools are in place, this old horse > >is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web > >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who > will > >do lookups for those without web access.) > > > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. > >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the > >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded > >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages > >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky > >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on > http://searches.rootsweb.com). > >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all > that > >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional > >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded > and > >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded > >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we > >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the > target. > > > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial > >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why > >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that > >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some > >of which hit closer to home than I like. Anything that > >requires more work from the system administration people is almost > >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that > >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember > passwords > >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem > >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we > haven't > >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so > automatically), > >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. > >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't > >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be > >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords > >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no > passwords, at > >least not for now, probably never. > > > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools > >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to > >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of > >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be > >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there > >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, > >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise > >ratio will still be quite high. > > > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your > >list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow > >the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to > your > >reject list the address "[email protected]". (If you go to > >your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the > >bottom, then and only then, write to [email protected] and ask > >that the address [email protected] be added to the reject > >list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note > >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, > >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative > >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If > you > >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we > >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from > >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all > >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just > >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > > > >6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her > messages > >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. > >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) > You can > >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see > >below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the > >cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to > >[email protected], etc. etc.) > > > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide > time > >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and > >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make > >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online > before > >then. > > > >Karen > > > > > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] > My Favorite Bible Verses Page: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html > All in Good Time Genealogy Page: > http://www.flash.net/~judyad/ Judy I read what you sent and will have to have my husband read over it. he know more about computer stuff than I do. We are looking on info on the Judge Andrew S. Broaddus who was born in Caroline Co. Va., and died in Texas. there was a note in your stuff about a book on the Broaddus family sent in by Ed broaddus. Do you know anything about the book? thanks Rhonda

I like the Idea, I hpoe it works!!! daVe Leininger (Broaddus) Judy Arnold wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I'm forwarded excerpts from a message listowners received from > Karen Isaacson of RootsWeb yesterday. This is the first I've heard > of this arrangement, so any of you listowner-members who may know > more about the situation, please feel free to enlighten us. It > seems that the archives of the lists are going to be put on > webpages for any and all (at least RootsWeb members) to access. You > may ask for archives for any list, even those to which you do not > belong. Archives will not be available via e-mail. Lists may choose > to have their archives on the web or not, but there can be no > selective choosing (for instance, I won't be able to say that I > don't want my ancestral lines included, but I would like ancestral > lines included). We're all in this together. I can see positives > and negatives about both. > > Will you please read the following information and let me know what > your thoughts are on the matter? Remember, at least after the > effective date, there will be little flexibility. We either all > archive, list by list, or we don't archive at all. I am editing the > message I got to save a little space. What do you think? > > Judy > > > > >Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, > >the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for > >RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, > >so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective > >mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. > > > >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning > off the > >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has > shown > >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large > lists), > >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and > hard > >on the system administrators > > Once the new tools are in place, this old horse > >is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web > >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who > will > >do lookups for those without web access.) > > > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. > >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the > >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded > >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages > >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky > >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on > http://searches.rootsweb.com). > >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all > that > >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional > >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded > and > >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded > >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we > >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the > target. > > > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial > >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why > >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that > >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some > >of which hit closer to home than I like. Anything that > >requires more work from the system administration people is almost > >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that > >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember > passwords > >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem > >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we > haven't > >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so > automatically), > >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. > >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't > >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be > >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords > >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no > passwords, at > >least not for now, probably never. > > > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools > >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to > >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of > >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be > >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there > >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, > >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise > >ratio will still be quite high. > > > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your > >list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow > >the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to > your > >reject list the address "[email protected]". (If you go to > >your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the > >bottom, then and only then, write to [email protected] and ask > >that the address [email protected] be added to the reject > >list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note > >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, > >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative > >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If > you > >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we > >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from > >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all > >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just > >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > > > >6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her > messages > >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. > >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) > You can > >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see > >below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the > >cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to > >[email protected], etc. etc.) > > > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide > time > >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and > >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make > >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online > before > >then. > > > >Karen > > > > > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] > My Favorite Bible Verses Page: > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html > All in Good Time Genealogy Page: > http://www.flash.net/~judyad/

Hello everyone, I'm forwarded excerpts from a message listowners received from Karen Isaacson of RootsWeb yesterday. This is the first I've heard of this arrangement, so any of you listowner-members who may know more about the situation, please feel free to enlighten us. It seems that the archives of the lists are going to be put on webpages for any and all (at least RootsWeb members) to access. You may ask for archives for any list, even those to which you do not belong. Archives will not be available via e-mail. Lists may choose to have their archives on the web or not, but there can be no selective choosing (for instance, I won't be able to say that I don't want my ancestral lines included, but I would like ancestral lines included). We're all in this together. I can see positives and negatives about both. Will you please read the following information and let me know what your thoughts are on the matter? Remember, at least after the effective date, there will be little flexibility. We either all archive, list by list, or we don't archive at all. I am editing the message I got to save a little space. What do you think? Judy > >Marc and Brian and I have talked (using that ancient technology, >the telephone), and here's the current scoop on message archives for >RootsWeb mailing lists. It won't all take effect for a week or two, >so to the extent you want to survey the readers of your respective >mailing lists for their opinions, you'll have time. > >1. Once the new (web-based) system is on line, we will be turning off the >old (e-mail based) system of accessing archives. Experience has shown >that it is hard on the system (uses too many CPU cycles on large lists), >and hard on the user (difficult to understand, tricky syntax) and hard >on the system administrators Once the new tools are in place, this old horse >is going to be put out to pasture. (I know that not everyone has web >access -- you might want to have a few volunteers on each list who will >do lookups for those without web access.) > >2. So, what's the new web-based system to be? Evolving, for a start. >In the initial phases, for those lists that are participating, the >most recent messages will be available via the web in a threaded >format. (This is what Marc has been working on.) The older messages >(including the old Maiser archives) will be available via a clunky >search engine (like that used for ROOTS-L on http://searches.rootsweb.com). >(I've been working on this, at least, until I got diverted by all that >stuff up there in the first paragraph.) We hope to do two additional >things: find a new search engine that will index both the threaded and >unthreaded message bases, and as time allows, convert the unthreaded >message bases to threaded. There are some open issues here that we >haven't worked through yet, so it will be awhile, but that's the target. > >3. What about passwords? These have proven much more controversial >than I ever expected. I do understand (shoot, I pushed for them) why >they are useful and solve a lot of problems. The difficulty is that >they seem to introduce at least as many problems as they solve. Some >of which hit closer to home than I like. Anything that >requires more work from the system administration people is almost >guaranteed to be a non-starter, and passwords unfortunately fit that >criteria. Besides having to deal with people who can't remember passwords >or who type them in the wrong case, etc., there's also the problem >that to change a password will require manual intervention (we haven't >developed the software yet so the listowner could do so automatically), >and a password that is stable and never changed isn't much security. >If your archived messages need to be secure, a simple password won't >be enough to secure them. If your archive messages don't need to be >secure, then there's no need for a password. Bottomline: passwords >make more work, but add little additional security. So, no passwords, at >least not for now, probably never. > >4. Can you edit the archives? No, at least, not now. The tools >to let you do so aren't available, and the time for someone (me) to >do it for you is in too short of supply. Except for cases of >egregious copyright violation, death threats, etc, I won't be >available to edit your archives for you. I know this means there >will be some cruft, subscribe/unsubscribe commands, reposted digests, >spam, etc. For most lists, even with the cruft, the signal to noise >ratio will still be quite high. > >5. Does your list have to participate? No. If you don't want your >list included, go to the utility page for your mailing list, follow >the button at the bottom labelled "edit selected files" and add to your >reject list the address "[email protected]". (If you go to >your utility page, and you don't have a button like that at the >bottom, then and only then, write to [email protected] and ask >that the address [email protected] be added to the reject >list for your mailing list. Be sure to say what mailing list.) Note >that, if your list doesn't participate in the web-based archives, >there will be no access to your archives unless you make alternative >arrangements (for instance, through your ISP) to provide such. If you >decide you do want to set up your own message archive elsewhere, we >will zip up your old archives here (including the old messages from >Maiser, if any) and put them somewhere so you can FTP them. Not all >lists want archives (hi, Wally!): if that describes your list, just >opt out of the web-based archives, and voila!, you're set. > >6. What if you have a single hothead who doesn't want his/her messages >included? You have some options. a) You can simply not participate. >b) You can tell him/her tough, and go ahead and participate. c) You can >ask that we not include your material from before the cutover (see >below), and tell your hothead that anything he/she posts after the >cutover will be included. (For the third case, send a letter to >[email protected], etc. etc.) > >Target date for the cutover: 1 December 1997. That should provide time >for you to touch base with your listmembers (if you so desire), and >for us to further shakedown the scripts that will be used to make >all this happen. Marc's beta-test will probably be back online before >then. > >Karen > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] My Favorite Bible Verses Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/1860/verses.html All in Good Time Genealogy Page: http://www.flash.net/~judyad/

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:41:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Edwin Broadus <[email protected] Awhile back Judy Arnold raised a question about the Broaddus connected with Alderson-Broaddus College in West Virginia. I had previously sent an e-mail message to a person at the school, and yesterday I received a packet by regular mail. The Broaddus involved was William Francis Ferguson Broaddus. He apparently had nothing to do with the founding of the school other than being an inspiration and encouragement to a minister named E. J. Willis. Willis took over a school in Winchester, Va., called Winchester Institute, and the following year (1873) he renamed it Broaddus Female College, in honor of his friend, Wm. F. Broaddus. Later the school was moved to West Virginia and combined with Alderson Academy and Junior College. Broaddus himself had earlier mainted a boarding school at Middleburg, Virginia (prior to 1840). He opened another one, for women, in Fredericksburg Va., but this closed at the time of the Civil War. He moved then to Charlottesville, returning to Fredericksburg several years later, where he died. Broaddus was born about 1791 and died in September 1876. He was twice married, to Mary Ann Farrow and to Lucy Ann Fleet. His parents were Thomas Broaddus and Susannah Ferguson White. Thomas in turn was the son of William Broaddus and Catherine Gaines. William was the son of Edward Broaddus by his second marriage, to Mary Shipley. There is considerable material about William F. Broaddus in Andrew S. Broaddus' book, "The Broaddus Family." Ed Broadus

Looking for details about the descendants of George Horace Jordan BROADHURST, b. 1897, Toledo, Ohio; married Madeline FUHS. They were the parents of two daughters, the eldest of whom was Patricia, b. 1919 in Elizabeth, NJ. George was a vaudeville actor. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Neil Broadhurst, Calgary, AB, Canada.

I am looking for the parents and descendants of James BROADHURST (b. 4 Feb 1828, probably Duplin Co., NC), who m. Martha EPPS (b. 13 Nov. 1838 in Greene Co., NC). Martha was the sister of my great-grandfather. Martha and James had children: Elizabeth, Laura, James, William Joseph, John Robert, Mary W., George Isaac, Edwin Cisero, Mattie Hannah, and Sallie Annie. Some of these children died in childhood. Several married. A cousin of mine thinks that Marth & James & family did not stay in NC but moved to somewhere in GA. I would like as much information as possible on their descendants and information on who were James' parents. Judith R. Hutchinson

At 07:53 PM 10/14/97 -0400, Edwin Broadus wrote: >It's interesting you asked this, since I was asked the same question >several days ago. I sent an email message to the college and was told >that the Broaddus it was named for was William F. The bad news is that >there were at least two by this name. The good news is that the person >who replied is sending appropriate pages from the school's history. When >I receive the information I will try to remember to post it, unless >someone else answers your inquiry before then. > >Ed Broadus > Please post to the list. I asked out of curiosity--I don't know of any of our kin down that way, but thought it was very interesting to find the name on an institution such as this. Thank you for researching this. Judy Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] Searching for:*ARNOLD*BROADHURST*COOK*COWAN* *FAUBION*HOCKENSMITH*MARSHALL*MCCOY*& many others! http://www.flash.net/~judyad/

It's interesting you asked this, since I was asked the same question several days ago. I sent an email message to the college and was told that the Broaddus it was named for was William F. The bad news is that there were at least two by this name. The good news is that the person who replied is sending appropriate pages from the school's history. When I receive the information I will try to remember to post it, unless someone else answers your inquiry before then. Ed Broadus On Tue, 14 Oct 1997, Judy Arnold wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the BROADDUS of Alderson-Broaddus > College, > located in Philippi, West Virginia? I found it on the 'net at > http://ab.edu/ . Thanks. > > Judy > > > > > > Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] > Searching for:*ARNOLD*BROADHURST*COOK*COWAN* > *FAUBION*HOCKENSMITH*MARSHALL*MCCOY*& many others! > http://www.flash.net/~judyad/ >

Does anyone know anything about the BROADDUS of Alderson-Broaddus College, located in Philippi, West Virginia? I found it on the 'net at http://ab.edu/ . Thanks. Judy Judy Marshall Arnold - [email protected] Searching for:*ARNOLD*BROADHURST*COOK*COWAN* *FAUBION*HOCKENSMITH*MARSHALL*MCCOY*& many others! http://www.flash.net/~judyad/