Hi Eve and others In addition to Trove, those with ancestors in Australia/ New Zealand might like to try the totally FREE Papers Past site. Often references to Australia as it was all just part of the British colonies, as well as news from ‘home’ (UK). Like you, I too have just recently learnt about the UK Newspapers site. New viewers of this site can get three free downloads, and then the subs are quite reasonable. After registering on the site you can save and organise various searches for future download: I have just bookmarked about 100 pages and then paid a modest sub for two days access. The download is for the entire page PDF on which your find is, which gives a bonus of background ‘news’ for those interested in the historical context. Only issues I had were with subscribing, the website rejected my details with my credit card which was rather odd, I needed to use another web browser. cheers Cynthia (New Zealand)

Just a question about Jewish immigrants in Leeds. My impression is that those who arrived in Leeds from Eastern Europe in the 1880’s were poor and likely didn't speak or read English. I am talking about my own family here. So what info about this rather large group is likely to have appeared in an English newspaper? Even when they arrived in the US 15-20 years later, there was nothing about them as individuals in the american press that I have noticed. Perhaps a death would have been reported in the Jewish press, rarely a wedding, nothing more. Basically it was a class thing as far as I can tell. Am I wrong about this? Marsha Steinberg Los Angleles, Searching for town of birth for my Cohen family who went from either Latvia or less likely Lithuania to Leeds in the 1880s. MsMs On May 26, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Cynthia McCaughan <mccaughan-ingle@paradise.net.nz> wrote: Hi Eve and others In addition to Trove, those with ancestors in Australia/ New Zealand might like to try the totally FREE Papers Past site. Often references to Australia as it was all just part of the British colonies, as well as news from ‘home’ (UK). Like you, I too have just recently learnt about the UK Newspapers site. New viewers of this site can get three free downloads, and then the subs are quite reasonable. After registering on the site you can save and organise various searches for future download: I have just bookmarked about 100 pages and then paid a modest sub for two days access. The download is for the entire page PDF on which your find is, which gives a bonus of background ‘news’ for those interested in the historical context. Only issues I had were with subscribing, the website rejected my details with my credit card which was rather odd, I needed to use another web browser. cheers Cynthia (New Zealand) Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No Marsha, You are not wrong. Basically "announcements" (BMD, engagements, stone setttings, in mems and later bar mitzvahs) had to be paid for. You did it when you had reached a certain status/position in life. If you married into a more affluent family you might get included in their announcement. If you were poor and preferred to feed your family then you would only get in if it was newsworthy or you knew a journalist (my grandfather and g.uncle were both journalists). So, if you perished in a major fire, or were mown down by a runnable tram you would get in. If you went bankrupt, naturalised, committed a crime etc., you'd probably get in. Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) > Just a question about Jewish immigrants in Leeds. My impression is that those who arrived in Leeds from Eastern Europe in the 1880’s were poor and likely didn't speak or read English. I am talking about my own family here. So what info about this rather large group is likely to have appeared in an English newspaper?

Oops! I thought Trove was free - I thought it was the site I'd used before for Aussie papers for which I had not paid. Eve > Hi Eve and others > > In addition to Trove, those with ancestors in Australia/ New Zealand might like to try the totally FREE Papers Past site. Often references to Australia as it was all just part of the British colonies, as well as news from ‘home’ (UK). >