Dear All, Since I received some, imformation concerning the origins of VINER families from Leeds,as possibly having come from Latvia (Riga / Courland ),I found an excellent site relating the history of Jewish Latvia: http://www.li.lv/index.php?option=com_content <http://www.li.lv/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=468> &task=view&id=99&Itemid=468 Fascinating reading. My afterthought (driving me crazy)...How,just how can we know from where they all originated ?(no naturalisation papers at Kew) Even the 80-90 year olds in the family do not remember !! Keep on hunting, Brenda Habshush, Israel. . . DISCLAIMER: This mail message was scanned for malicious content by Quality Bytes Mail Security when leaving the gateway of Quality Bytes http://qb.q-bytes.com/qbms/?c=qb .