HI from chilly grey drizzly Jerusalem. I wonder what was the profession of the "mad" David. Mad + ribbons = could be have been a mad hatter....was it arsenic that drove them "mad"? Just a thought. You are doing so well with your ancestors. My Gx2 GF has been sighted in the 1861 census but none of us can find when or where GF and GM died. Weird. Enjoy your mice. We have 2 sheep on the patio but they are ceramic. The cats are real tho...Preshie (Precious) my indoor/outdoor phat cat, and Preppie (Preposterous) our skinny Mommycat and niece of Preshie, and a load of eager Toms, mostly for food tho, hanging around hopefully..(Too many unwanted cats here, it's sad but does keep the rats away). Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Bozkurt" <debbieinscotland@googlemail.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:27 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Pre 1791 Records for the Great Synagogue or pre census records > Hi there from very soggy cold and windy Stornoway. > > Probably a silly question, did any pre 1791 marriage records survive > the blitz in any format from the Great Synagogue. We are trying to > trace our David JACOBS (hebrew name david b jacob litzin/letson), who > died in 1809 aged approx 83. All his sons that married after 1791 were > registered at the Great Synagogue, Unfort. my 4x great grandfather > Philip JACOBS married just before. David was in his 50s when his > children were born in the late 1760 and 1770s, he was already deemed > 'mad' at that point and was frequently arrested between 1777 and 1801 > for stealing ribbons, his defence was he was mad for years but his > luck ran out in 1801 and his was sentenced for 1 year in prison. > > It does seem logical that he married either late or our family was his > second marriage. His wife certainly appears not to be around in the > later part of the 18th century as his sons were finding him > accommodation etc. from descriptions at the trial he didn't look after > himself and was a mess. And you know girls we would NOT let our men > out in public like that so I am wondering whether his wife died in > childbirth perhaps.....maybe the stolen ribbons were for her in his > mind. > > Can anyone point in the direction of any archives on either marriages, > books on the aldgate area/ minories or any pre census of that area to > see if I can trace David Jacobs pre 1770s. > > Thank you for your patience in reading my story, its lonely up here > need someone to chat to! > > Debbie Bozkurt Outer Hebrides > > PS my mouse has come visiting again and brought his wife with him! > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >