In a recent email, Debbie Bozkirt asked "does any one know an easy way of find passenger list to Australia pre 1890, as in my experience unless you know what state they went to it is very difficult." Many people may not realize that Australia is as large as, for example, the United States in terms of landmass. With countries this size it is not surprising that they gets carved up into states, which both Australia and the United States has done. (Not many other examples come to mind, save Russia, but I think we can discount that one.) Therefore genealogists need to remember that in actuality, each state functions as a its own country and so, Debbie will find that many matters, such as immigration will be dealt with at state level. Just be grateful you're dealing with just half a dozen AU states and not 50 US states! This is akin to saying that great Uncle Harry died in America in 1921, how would I find his death certificate - well by knocking on the door over every city or county health department and asking! There is nothing national (or federal as one says over here) save the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) but even that only begins in 1962 and doesn't include everyone who died after that date. I'm afraid (without knowing more) that you are going to have to check it out port by port. But I would first check on line and see if some kind soul has indexed any of these earlier voyages. Good luck, From a damp Norther California Jeremy -- Jeremy G Frankel ex Edgware, London, England Berkeley, California, USA EBIN: Russia, New York, USA FRANKEL: Poland, London, England GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland, London, England KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania, London, England, NYC, NY, USA LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland, London, England PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland, London, England, NYC, NY, USA