<does any one know an easy way of find passenger list to Australia pre 1890, as in my experience unless you know what state they went to it is very difficult.> Hi Debbie, You may also find the below sites useful in your search for passengers to Australia: http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp#ImmigrationampShippi www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/shipdate.htm http://members.tripod.com/~GEKKOS/ships/frames.html http://members.pcug.org.au/~kenblair/immrec.htm http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Workshop/2299/aus_ships.html http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm Happy hunting. Cheers, Babs O'Connor Penrith, Australia