I wonder if anyone could help me, been stuck on this puzzle for a number of years. My great great grandfather was Philip PHILLIPS also known on census as James PHILLIPS, Philip J PHILLIPS and on two of his children's marriage Phineas PHILLIPS. On his children's birth certificate mother's name is Ann MOSS or Annie MOSS. Philip PHILLIPS (name on death certificate) died 1889 Mile End Old Town, London age 45 (may be a few years too young). In 1901 Annie/Ann reverted to the name Hannah PHILLIPS, I found her on the Jewish Hospital Records as Hannah PHILLIPS. The interesting thing is that on the two census in which he was with his 'wife' he is down as being born in Carmarthen Wales, as far as my research as shown there were no settlement of Jews in Wales at that time, so he either wasn't a Jew then or his parents were travelers. I have never been able to find a marriage for them and I have tried, I can only assume they either didn't get married, or the names were spelt wrong so I can't find them. I had an idea if I could find their burial I could then maybe find out parents names etc. Three of the children married in the East London Synagogue, so they were brought up Jewish. I found out that the East London Synagogue was a United Synagogue so I searched cemetery by cemetery by Philip PHILLIPS and Phineas PHILLIPS nothing. Can anyone advise me if they married around the Mile End, Whitechapel area what synagogue would have been the likely place, prob. after 1861 but before 1868. Do you know, if the family were affiliated to the East London Synagogue where the cemetery would have been, the East London Synagogue opened in 1889. Hannah PHILLIPS (Annie PHILLIPs on death certificate) died in 1915 Merchant Street, Poplar, aged 71 (think that maybe a few years too young from earlier census) I know its a lot to ask but every so often I try and see if something extra turns up in the hope one day I can find my great great grandparents ancestry. Thanks for reading Debbie Bozkurt Outer Hebrides Snowing and Cold

Hello Debbie Search for marriage for Hannah Moss and look at June quarter 1843 possible spouse is Moses Philip. Mary > I wonder if anyone could help me, been stuck on this puzzle for a number of > years. > > My great great grandfather was Philip PHILLIPS also known on census as James > PHILLIPS, Philip J PHILLIPS and on two of his children's marriage Phineas > PHILLIPS. On his children's birth certificate mother's name is Ann MOSS or > Annie MOSS. Philip PHILLIPS (name on death certificate) died 1889 Mile End > Old Town, London age 45 (may be a few years too young). In 1901 Annie/Ann > reverted to the name Hannah PHILLIPS, I found her on the Jewish Hospital > Records as Hannah PHILLIPS. > > The interesting thing is that on the two census in which he was with his > 'wife' he is down as being born in Carmarthen Wales, as far as my research > as shown there were no settlement of Jews in Wales at that time, so he > either wasn't a Jew then or his parents were travelers. > > I have never been able to find a marriage for them and I have tried, I can > only assume they either didn't get married, or the names were spelt wrong so > I can't find them. I had an idea if I could find their burial I could then > maybe find out parents names etc. > > Three of the children married in the East London Synagogue, so they were > brought up Jewish. I found out that the East London Synagogue was a United > Synagogue so I searched cemetery by cemetery by Philip PHILLIPS and Phineas > PHILLIPS nothing. > > Can anyone advise me if they married around the Mile End, Whitechapel area > what synagogue would have been the likely place, prob. after 1861 but before > 1868. Do you know, if the family were affiliated to the East London > Synagogue where the cemetery would have been, the East London Synagogue > opened in 1889. > > Hannah PHILLIPS (Annie PHILLIPs on death certificate) died in 1915 Merchant > Street, Poplar, aged 71 (think that maybe a few years too young from earlier > census) > > I know its a lot to ask but every so often I try and see if something extra > turns up in the hope one day I can find my great great grandparents > ancestry. > > Thanks for reading > > Debbie Bozkurt Outer Hebrides Snowing and Cold > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks but Hannah Moss was born in about 1843, her first child Esther Mary PHILLIPS was born in 1867, I was looking between 1861 and 1867 as her marriage date. Thank you for looking Mary Debbie Bozkurt

Sorry Debbie it is Philip Moses could be a transcribers error. May not also. Mary > I wonder if anyone could help me, been stuck on this puzzle for a number of > years. > > My great great grandfather was Philip PHILLIPS also known on census as James > PHILLIPS, Philip J PHILLIPS and on two of his children's marriage Phineas > PHILLIPS. On his children's birth certificate mother's name is Ann MOSS or > Annie MOSS. Philip PHILLIPS (name on death certificate) died 1889 Mile End > Old Town, London age 45 (may be a few years too young). In 1901 Annie/Ann > reverted to the name Hannah PHILLIPS, I found her on the Jewish Hospital > Records as Hannah PHILLIPS. > > The interesting thing is that on the two census in which he was with his > 'wife' he is down as being born in Carmarthen Wales, as far as my research > as shown there were no settlement of Jews in Wales at that time, so he > either wasn't a Jew then or his parents were travelers. > > I have never been able to find a marriage for them and I have tried, I can > only assume they either didn't get married, or the names were spelt wrong so > I can't find them. I had an idea if I could find their burial I could then > maybe find out parents names etc. > > Three of the children married in the East London Synagogue, so they were > brought up Jewish. I found out that the East London Synagogue was a United > Synagogue so I searched cemetery by cemetery by Philip PHILLIPS and Phineas > PHILLIPS nothing. > > Can anyone advise me if they married around the Mile End, Whitechapel area > what synagogue would have been the likely place, prob. after 1861 but before > 1868. Do you know, if the family were affiliated to the East London > Synagogue where the cemetery would have been, the East London Synagogue > opened in 1889. > > Hannah PHILLIPS (Annie PHILLIPs on death certificate) died in 1915 Merchant > Street, Poplar, aged 71 (think that maybe a few years too young from earlier > census) > > I know its a lot to ask but every so often I try and see if something extra > turns up in the hope one day I can find my great great grandparents > ancestry. > > Thanks for reading > > Debbie Bozkurt Outer Hebrides Snowing and Cold > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message