Dear Miriam, At least one of the golden rules is to obtain every scrap of evidence one can lay one's hands on (the only limiting factor being the size of one' purse). David's suggestions are also excellent and would probably have been borne out by a search of the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex. The names David came up with are possibly closer to what you are seeking. That being the case, you may want to go back to JewishGen and see where folks with these names are form and see if it jives with anything you know about your family. Good luck, Jeremy (wondering where the lost hour went - clocks went forward today)