I should think it's probably Maurice. I found a birth for a Maurice:- Name: BOXER, Maurice Registration district: [?] Hackney County: London Year of registration: 1902 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no:[?]1B Page no:[?]526 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Miriam Pollak" <miriam_pollak@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:18 AM To: "British Jewry Mailing List" <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Query - gay marriage Dear Listers, While trying to track down descendants of Joseph & Esther Emanuel (late of London), I came across an interesting marriage for an Irene H.R. Emanuel to Maureen Boxer (Lambeth Q2 1945). Is this a gay marriage or a mistake? I don't think that I have ever heard of Irene being a boys' name or Maureen for that matter. Any thoughts on this oddity. Miriam Pollak Melbourne, Australia Working on Plashet Cemetery Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a birth shown on Free BMD in June qtr 1946 for BOXER Phillippa H Mother surname Emanuel Marylebone 1a 713 which makes Maureen Boxer the father. Cannot think of male replacement for Maureen. Perhaps a mistake was made on the marriage certificate which was later corrected with a new certificate but the actual record was not amended. Would love to know the result of this enquiry!! Cherry in Thames Ditton, Surrey On 27 Feb 2013, at 00:18, Miriam Pollak wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > While trying to track down descendants of Joseph & Esther Emanuel > (late of London), I came across an interesting marriage for an > Irene H.R. Emanuel to Maureen Boxer (Lambeth Q2 1945). Is this a > gay marriage or a mistake? I don't think that I have ever heard of > Irene being a boys' name or Maureen for that matter. > > Any thoughts on this oddity. > > Miriam Pollak > Melbourne, Australia > > Working on Plashet Cemetery > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cynthia This all looks very complicated. Have you tried going to www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/wills.htm ? Kind regards Rosemary (Settle, North Yorkshire, UK) On 26 Feb 2013, at 23:52, Cynthia McCaughan <mccaughan-ingle@paradise.net.nz> wrote: > > > My grateful thanks in anticipation > > Cynthia > (New Zealand) > > Researching HART, NATHAN, BARNARD, ABRAHAMS,VANDERLYN, SOLOMONS > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, While trying to track down descendants of Joseph & Esther Emanuel (late of London), I came across an interesting marriage for an Irene H.R. Emanuel to Maureen Boxer (Lambeth Q2 1945). Is this a gay marriage or a mistake? I don't think that I have ever heard of Irene being a boys' name or Maureen for that matter. Any thoughts on this oddity. Miriam Pollak Melbourne, Australia Working on Plashet Cemetery

Dear Genners, I really have to thank Miriam Pollak for bringing this to our attention as once again, the question forms the basis for a wonderful genealogical exercise in sleuthing. So let's see shall we. First of all, looking in FreeBMD there it is for all to see, Irene H.R. Emanuel marrying, presumably a Maureen Boxer. I looked at both marriage indices, for Boxer and Emanuel to make sure and yes, both indices appear to be supporting the idea that an Irene married a Maureen. (Not that this would bat anyone's eyelids these days.) So what next, well, I then checked to see if there had been a birth for an Irene Emanuel about 20 years ago and sure enough there was one Irene H Emanuel (mother, Silverman) born in Wandsworth in 1920. This would support the Lambeth marriage for those of you who are well-versed in London geography. Now it was over to Maureen Boxer and see if there was one born around the same time give or take five years - nada! Nothing save one born "oop north" in 1942. Couldn't be "her." Now what, well, I slid over to the site that shall remain nameless and looked for an Irene Boxer - after all, she was for real. I found an Irene H Boxer in the Electoral Registers living Lambeth, would you believe. I clicked on the image and there she was - with her husband Maurice! Problem solved! Thank you again Miriam for that "Monday" equivalent of the New York Times crossword! Jeremy -- Jeremy G Frankel Folsom, CA Searching for: FRANKEL: Plock, Poland; London, England GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England Pinkus, Poland; London, England PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA

Hello, Is there any one who is signed up to JewishGen (jewishgen.org) who can make out the Hebrew on the tombstone in the following link and and translate it for me? You may not be able to go directly as it is in the JewishGen Archives and you have to log in. If that is the case and you have to search for the person, go to the Burial Register - Canada - Ontario and search for Alexander LAZARUS, born Jun 1887, died 30 Jun 1899. I'd like to know if the Hebrew gives any other information. There is probably another Alexander Lazarus who died at around the same time; he isn't mine. I just realized - this isn't a British cemetery - Alex's father was from Devon - so contact me off-list if you can do this for me Thanks, Eve in Toronto

Searching the JG burial index for Alexander doesn't work; searching for Alex works. Linda Wolfe Kelley Portland, Oegon On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Eve Richardson <erchrdsn@pathcom.com> wrote: ...Alexander LAZARUS, born Jun 1887, died 30 Jun 1899...Toronto, Ontario, Canada...

Dear Mailing List, I have a slightly odd query that I would like some help with. I am trying to trace the descendants of Joseph & Esther Emanuel who lived at 266A Upper Tooting Road. Joseph died on the 14 August 1917 and his wife, Esther (nee Mordecai), died on the 7th August 1923. They had the following children (that I know of): Lewis, Hannah, Mark, Mary, Barnett, Joeseph, Goodman and Kitty. I know that Joseph died in WWI. I am writing to gain their permission to use a photograph that I have taken of Joseph & Esther's grave for a cover to a book that I am writing. I am not a member of their family. I would appreciate any help that members of the mailing list can provide. Kind regards, Miriam Pollak Melbourne, Australia currently working on a book about Plashet Cemetery

I don't know why everyone seems to think i know everything about this site! I know the same as everyone else who went to see and read the pages. However, you would not be wanting a check, would you...you would be wanting copies of the documents and as, I have already said, each file has a different number of pages so you have to contact them with the reference numbers and they will see how many pages in each file and then tell you how much it would cost. It seems to cost £1 to request a quote for copies. Could people now, stop asking me questions because I don't know and I have not got the time to find out for you all. Good luck. Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) I had checked out the FAQ"S and they want 28# per 1 hour check . That would be about $40. 00 in US money. Does that cover copies of the cards? I have 3 or 4 names to look up.

Thank you Sherry.. I had checked out the FAQ"S and they want 28# per 1 hour check . That would be about $40. 00 in US money. Does that cover copies of the cards? I have 3 or 4 names to look up. Annette Young

Hi Sherry At what point were people registered? Was it when they arrived in Hull or was it when they arrived in the town of their destination? I can't find my family at all - is the data base incomplete? Regards Shirley Holton Bucks UK Sent from my iPad On 14 Feb 2013, at 09:32, Sherry in France <sherry.landa@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > I saved the list of names to xls. I have started deleting the > obviously not-Jewish ones...2576 names each with hyperlink to the > details on the website. Anyone wanting a copy can email me off-list if > it makes life easier. > > Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) > > On 13 February 2013 21:52, Danielle Sanderson > <sanderson_family@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> There's an extra step: After typing WYP/LE and pressing "Enter" put "Alien" >> in the seach box (without double quotes) and press enter. Then you click the >> link "section" and get to the bit Susan mentioned, the 19th item: Alien >> Files. If you expand that (click on the +) you get the list of names. > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/archives-news.asp I quote: Alien files released from the Archives - is there an alien in your family history? In the summer of 2012, West Yorkshire Archive Service received a deposit of alien registration records from Leeds City Police comprising almost 3000 cards, covering c1850 – c1960 relating to immigrants registering in the Leeds area. These have been catalogued, conserved and are now available for the public to view. This incredible family history resource provides not only an insight into the journey of immigration in the 19th and 20th centuries in West Yorkshire, but it also reveals some of the real life stories of those escaping religious and political persecution and of those desperately seeking economic opportunities. This fantastic collection includes registration cards and files which give us vast amounts of information on individuals and their families, including name, age, occupation, nationality, spouse and very often a brief history of their circumstances leading up to their arrival in the UK. This series of registration cards gives us a real glimpse into the conditions imposed upon these people in their homeland and the opportunities which presented themselves in the UK, USA and other countries. Information can be found on our online catalogue including the names and details of all the individuals who had cards, the actual files themselves can be viewed at our Wakefield office. For information, see our Blog at http://wyascatablogue.wordpress.com/ Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK)

I saved the list of names to xls. I have started deleting the obviously not-Jewish ones...2576 names each with hyperlink to the details on the website. Anyone wanting a copy can email me off-list if it makes life easier. Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) On 13 February 2013 21:52, Danielle Sanderson <sanderson_family@ntlworld.com> wrote: > There's an extra step: After typing WYP/LE and pressing "Enter" put "Alien" > in the seach box (without double quotes) and press enter. Then you click the > link "section" and get to the bit Susan mentioned, the 19th item: Alien > Files. If you expand that (click on the +) you get the list of names.

There's an extra step: After typing WYP/LE and pressing "Enter" put "Alien" in the seach box (without double quotes) and press enter. Then you click the link "section" and get to the bit Susan mentioned, the 19th item: Alien Files. If you expand that (click on the +) you get the list of names. Danielle Sanderson, Bushey, Herts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Jackson" <mkjackson@zipcon.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:14 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] alien files at West Yorkshire archives > Susan, Please could you clarify the below. > > Using the advanced, search option, I typed "WYP/LE" into the "any text" > section. (What do those initials stand for, and how did you figure out > to use them?) > > Then, the results I get from doing that is a list of 3639 items---and it > is an unnumbered list. I counted down 19 items, but do NOT see an item > labeled "Aliens." Plus, the list does not show "section" or other record > levels. >

Dear All, Earlier today there was a (line of) message about alien files in West Yorkshire, a searchable database. Does anyone know if there is a similar database (so searchable online from anywhere in the world) of East Yorkshire, in particular Hull? Looking for ancestors arriving in Hull in the mid-1850s, and their place of birth in particular. Thanks in advance! Sigrid de Wit, Netherlands. (researching PHILLIPS, PLOCKY, SZAFRON/SZAFRAN/SHAFRIN/SAFRIN, ROZENBLUM and GOLDBERG, in Poland, Manchester, London & South Africa)

Yes there is- it's on Ancestry. Not quite the same, but has arrivals. B -----Original Message----- From: "Sigrid de Wit" <sigrid.dewit@xs4all.nl> Sender: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:16:44 To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Alien registration HULL (Yorkshire) Dear All, Earlier today there was a (line of) message about alien files in West Yorkshire, a searchable database. Does anyone know if there is a similar database (so searchable online from anywhere in the world) of East Yorkshire, in particular Hull? Looking for ancestors arriving in Hull in the mid-1850s, and their place of birth in particular. Thanks in advance! Sigrid de Wit, Netherlands. (researching PHILLIPS, PLOCKY, SZAFRON/SZAFRAN/SHAFRIN/SAFRIN, ROZENBLUM and GOLDBERG, in Poland, Manchester, London & South Africa) Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to talk with Martha about Jackson to Ontario. Martha could you email me please rosalind@netvision.net.il Thanx Ros -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Martha Jackson Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:00 AM To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] alien files at West Yorkshire Archives Thank you for this link. I looked immediately to see whether my gg grandfather Abraham/Thomas Garlick/Harris was listed (I think I found him in Manchester in the 1870 census) but he's not listed. It took me awhile to find how to access this list, so perhaps this will be helpful to others: If you go directly to http://www.catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/TreeBrowse.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&field= RefNo&key=WYPLE%2F19 you will see an alphabetical list of the persons in the alien files. In order to get to that page, I typed "alien files" into the search box, then clicked on "section" under "Level." Martha PS Sherry, there is an Abraham Landa! GARLICK (GRYLAK?)/HARRIS: Kalisz(?) Poland -> Leeds, England COATS/COOTS/COUTS: Poland -> Leeds, England -> Ontario, Canada -> Chicago, USA JACKSON: London, England -> Ontario, Canada Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2238 / Virus Database: 2639/5601 - Release Date: 02/13/13

Go to FAQs and then there is a section on what to do if you can't go in person...I am sure the list would be interested in the follow-up which seems to require contact in order to get a personalised quote. Good luck, Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) > I checked the list out of curiosity and did find what i think is my great grandmother # 424 Annie Cohen nee Goldberg. > I didn't find her husband but possibly her son Abraham Cohen # 421 and daughter Rachael # 459 or 460. > What is the best way to get copies of these cards as I live in USA.

Depends on the date Martha. Becca Researching Lichtenstein Hull/London/Birmingham -----Original Message----- From: Martha F <martha.public.mail@verizon.net> Sender: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:16:54 To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Alien files at West Yorkshire Archives Too soon old, too late wise - it never occurred to me to look for such files! Well, I'm not a Brit, I'm an American, so maybe I have a bit of an excues. My relatives were not in West Yorkshire (as far as I know), but maybe some kindly Brit can tell me if there are similar files available for other parts of England? Specifically, I have grandparents who were in London (not sure by what route they got to London) and had a child born there. Might I be able to find files like this, if I knew where to look? Can anyone tell me where to start looking? Martha Forsyth researching SCHECTER/SHECHTER/'SHECHLER' Newton, MA, USA hyams+jill <jill@hyams.plus.com> 2/12/2013 11:20 AM: > Saw this on Twitter: > > WYAS has announced today the release of nearly 3,000 alien files, > 1850-1960. These have now been catalogued, are searchable on the online > catalogue, and available to view at the Wakefield office. > > http://wyascatablogue.wordpress.com/ > > Jill > Staines, UK Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Please could you clarify the below. Using the advanced, search option, I typed "WYP/LE" into the "any text" section. (What do those initials stand for, and how did you figure out to use them?) Then, the results I get from doing that is a list of 3639 items---and it is an unnumbered list. I counted down 19 items, but do NOT see an item labeled "Aliens." Plus, the list does not show "section" or other record levels. thank you! Martha > Do an any word search for WYP/LE, then click on entry "19. Aliens", then up at the top click on "section".