Urmston is supposedly covered by deceased online website (which I have only just found and can't figure out if it's a rip off or OK). However, nothing appears in their free index. Prestwich deaths might be at Rainsough Cemetery. This might be more helpful http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/448/archives_and_local_history/462/family_history/13 but as far as I know if they are not city of Manchester then you still have to contact each burial ground separately. I can't get into Jewish Gen which would be my other place to check. Neither death/stone setting seems to be in the JC either :-( Sherry Landa (in wet and cold Oxford, UK) > I'm trying to find burial information for Solomon Davidoff who passed away > in Prestwich, 1913, aged 76, Dec quarter and also for his son > Barnet Davidoff who passed away in Salford, 1952, aged 74, Sept quarter, > I believe Barnet is buried at Urmston Cemetery. Not sure about Solomon. > Any ideas please.

Hi Debbie, This is the same Philip that Jeremy was askinng about. > I have Rachel Domberg married to Salamon Bruchsztejn (brookstone) he is the > son of Philip who d in 1926 married to Milly (don't know her maiden name) > living in Manchester in 1881. This is on my Ancestry site Brookstein. > > Just seemed like quite a few coincidences

Rachel was DONBERG, not Domberg, and I have some info. about the Donbergs, including a Debbie Donberg! Wolfes and Donbergs were dear friends in Leeds and Chicago. Linda Wolfe Kelley lkelley49@gmail.com On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, D Windley <d_windley@sky.com> wrote: > I have Rachel Domberg

Appeal to Shmuel (Sam) KATZ who lives in Toronto, Canada. Please contact me asap. Sam, in 2010 I helped you trace your uncle Julius KATZ to Liverpool, then to SA. I have now been contacted by the niece of his wife, Friederike KATZ née SALZBERG who has contacted me with information regarding your late uncle! I have tried both the email addresses that I have on file for you. I hope you see this message. Contact: Monica McMullin Liverpool. UK monicamcmullin@mac.com Researching: FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN/FREEMAN, COHEN, RUSSELL, HARRIS, TAYLOR, LEVY, SIMON, BERG/BERGE, BROMBERG, ROSENBERG, YANKELOVITCH, ABRAMSON/ABRAHAMSON. (Lithuanian immigrants who settled in Leeds/Dublin/Manchester/London/Liverpool)

Hi Jeremy, I see you have PRINZ/PRINCE on your list of family names. My husbands Great Grandfather was ASHER PRINCE SYMONS b Dec 1856. He was thought to be a Polish orphan but it was found his mother conceived him before marriage. Asher was the son of Amelia COHEN & Mordecai SYMONS m June 1856. The name PRINCE comes from Asher's Grandmother Ann PRINCE who married Wolf COHEN in 1828. It states they were born in "Foreign Parts" but resided at Spitalfields, Middlesex, London. UK. I wonder if we have a connection. Leonie Copeland. -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jeremy frankel Sent: Tuesday, 28 May 2013 5:12 AM To: British Jewry Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] newspapers - family notieces etc -- Jeremy G Frankel ex-London, England now Folsom, CA Searching for: FRANKEL: Plock, Poland; London, England GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England Pinkus, Poland; London, England PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have Rachel Domberg married to Salamon Bruchsztejn (brookstone) he is the son of Philip who d in 1926 married to Milly (don't know her maiden name) living in Manchester in 1881. This is on my Ancestry site Brookstein. Just seemed like quite a few coincidences Regards Debbie -----Original Message----- From: jeremy frankel Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:11 AM To: British Jewry Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Philip BROOKSTONE,buried in Leeds Hilltop Cemetery? Dear Genners, I'm helping someone research their BROOKSTONE family who lived in Leeds; Philip and Rachel (Donberg) and their children. I'm guessing that Philip, who died in 1926 is buried in Hilltop Cemetery. I've also read that it is closed due to possible mining subsidence. Does anyone know if Philip is actually buried there and if so, how might one obtain a photograph of his headstone. (Maybe someone owns a drone? Only joking). Please reply off list unless the response will be of benefit to other researchers Thanks, Jeremy -- Jeremy G Frankel ex-London, England now Folsom, CA Searching for: FRANKEL: Plock, Poland; London, England GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland; London, England KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania; London, England; NY, USA LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland; London, England Pinkus, Poland; London, England PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland; London, England; NY, USA Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for everyone has sent information, on and off list about this. The information I am looking for is a British marriage around 1830, probably in Chatham, Miriam Solomon marrying a man with surname "Issacs" (it is possible it is a British man marrying in St Helena, but I suspect not) Her brother in law died of poisoning too- self inflicted. Since it was a different Continent, I don't think they are related incidents! Best wishes Becca (In rain torn but sunny Scotland) -----Original Message----- From: caddack@aol.com Sender: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:57:37 To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Miriam Magnus Hello, For the burial of Miriam Magnus see Beverley Davis Burial records (BD/BD). Miriam Magnus (Miriam bat Yehuda) d. 1855, buried Botany Pioneer Memorial Park, Sydney. David Alexander Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi David, Yes, it's her first marriage I'm looking for. I have the later stuff (that appears on that big website we don't talk of now, as does the coroner's report) Many thanks Becca

Becca Thanks for telling me about TROVE I did not know about it before - best wishes Michael -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Becca Gauldie Sent: 28 May 2013 16:10 To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Solomon Family of St Helena murder??? Hello again Michael, Yes, I have all that too. But if you look at the Australian website called Trove, which was mentioned on another British Jewry thread yesterday, you'll find all the details of the death if you enter Miriam Magnus. In one of the articles it mentions who her father was. Miriam Solomon's dates do fit. But that would mean a marriage previous to her marriage to Samuel. (Presumably short lived and childless) It is definitely them- also mentions their oldest son. Several members of the family emigrate at the same time. It explains too, why Kate, Henry, Louis and Saul use the name Solomon(s) on their return to the UK. What became of the other three children I don't know. It may be of interest to Nathan researchers too, as the name of the doctor mentioned is "Dr Nathan" Best wishes Becca (In now sunny Scotland) Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael, Can't claim credit for that- I only found out via this message system yesterday. But it is brilliant and has South Africa and bits of Britain on it as well as Australia. If anyone finds a Miriam Solomon/Issacs marriage for about 1830, I'd love to know. Becca

Dear Becca 1851Jewish community in the British Isles(1851 census) - the great work of Petra Laidlaw p472 ID31163 Samuel Magnus b 1795 Chatham, spouse 1 Miriam(?) 1851 residence Chatham Kent - plate glass dealer- unfortunately no clue to her earlier name(s)- Isaacs and Solomon(s) two a penny so very difficult in lists to differentiate if you have not got other clues-I have both in ancestors.Michael -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Becca Gauldie Sent: 28 May 2013 14:45 To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Solomon Family of St Helena murder??? Hello Michael, Yes, I've got all that. But not a marriage for Miriam Solomon, or indeed, until now, many details for her at all. Neither, it would seem from the unmentionable site, has anyone there. She's called Miriam Issacs on that site and at the time of her marriage, in 1838, to Samuel Magnus. best wishes, Becca Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello again Michael, Yes, I have all that too. But if you look at the Australian website called Trove, which was mentioned on another British Jewry thread yesterday, you'll find all the details of the death if you enter Miriam Magnus. In one of the articles it mentions who her father was. Miriam Solomon's dates do fit. But that would mean a marriage previous to her marriage to Samuel. (Presumably short lived and childless) It is definitely them- also mentions their oldest son. Several members of the family emigrate at the same time. It explains too, why Kate, Henry, Louis and Saul use the name Solomon(s) on their return to the UK. What became of the other three children I don't know. It may be of interest to Nathan researchers too, as the name of the doctor mentioned is "Dr Nathan" Best wishes Becca (In now sunny Scotland)

It's fine..it happens to us all but when we have had 6 emails in the last 12 or so hours, plus the others which are stopped because people forgot to use plain text or other things the robot gets upset about I felt I had to step in and at least remind people :-) S (in Oxford where it's also throwing it down and feels cold) > Sorry, Sherry, I am one of the culprits. > > I got too enthusiastic in trying to help David Pearce. > > I will take greater care next time. Honest!

Sorry, Sherry, I am one of the culprits. I got too enthusiastic in trying to help David Pearce. I will take greater care next time. Honest! Rosemary Rosemary Rees, in wet and cold North Yorkshire where it is still raining. On 28 May 2013, at 14:31, Sherry Landa <sherry.landa@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Please remember to snip the original message when posting a reply-we > have had LOTS of oversized emails in the last day or so. > > Thanks > > Sherry & Jackye > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you can get into Ancestry.co.uk you will find Magnus( Chatham) and Russell( Sheerness) families - with all sorts of ramifications into other families all with frequent Jewish last names. The Navy needed supplies and there were traders at all the ports. Sincerely Michael Waugh -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Becca Gauldie Sent: 28 May 2013 11:18 To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Solomon Family of St Helena murder??? Thanks to the very helpful link about Trove, I found an answer to a story I have been wondering about for a while. My Gx2 grandfather's niece (close I know!) married Henry Solomon, formerly Magnus. I was curious about this in the beginning, but discovered part of the story on that website nobody mentions. It seems the family moved to Australia in about 1852. They have another child, Saul and then in 1855, father Samuel is accused of murdering his wife, Miriam Issacs and half the children return to the UK, including Henry. They then start using the name Solomon(s) instead of Magnus. On the Trove website the story is covered extensively. It seems Samuel was accused of poisoning Miriam, who did die of poisoning. However, he was found not guilty. But it gives one other clue "the deceased was one of the daughters of the wealthy and influential merchant of St Helena, Mr Saul Solomon" So I assume this means that Miriam is Saul's daughter Miriam born 8 July 1808 on St Helena. Which means that Issacs is her name from a previous marriage? Anyone have any clues? I'd suspect the marriage was in Chatham. (Her birth was given as Chatham on the census in the UK) Many thanks for any help. Becca (In rain stricken Scotland, so cold we don't have to worry about the midgies.) Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Please remember to snip the original message when posting a reply-we have had LOTS of oversized emails in the last day or so. Thanks Sherry & Jackye

Hello Michael, Yes, I've got all that. But not a marriage for Miriam Solomon, or indeed, until now, many details for her at all. Neither, it would seem from the unmentionable site, has anyone there. She's called Miriam Issacs on that site and at the time of her marriage, in 1838, to Samuel Magnus. best wishes, Becca

Hello, For the burial of Miriam Magnus see Beverley Davis Burial records (BD/BD). Miriam Magnus (Miriam bat Yehuda) d. 1855, buried Botany Pioneer Memorial Park, Sydney. David Alexander

Thanks to the very helpful link about Trove, I found an answer to a story I have been wondering about for a while. My Gx2 grandfather's niece (close I know!) married Henry Solomon, formerly Magnus. I was curious about this in the beginning, but discovered part of the story on that website nobody mentions. It seems the family moved to Australia in about 1852. They have another child, Saul and then in 1855, father Samuel is accused of murdering his wife, Miriam Issacs and half the children return to the UK, including Henry. They then start using the name Solomon(s) instead of Magnus. On the Trove website the story is covered extensively. It seems Samuel was accused of poisoning Miriam, who did die of poisoning. However, he was found not guilty. But it gives one other clue "the deceased was one of the daughters of the wealthy and influential merchant of St Helena, Mr Saul Solomon" So I assume this means that Miriam is Saul's daughter Miriam born 8 July 1808 on St Helena. Which means that Issacs is her name from a previous marriage? Anyone have any clues? I'd suspect the marriage was in Chatham. (Her birth was given as Chatham on the census in the UK) Many thanks for any help. Becca (In rain stricken Scotland, so cold we don't have to worry about the midgies.)

There are two sites which are free and have lots of British & local bmd notices and news articles. Always worth checking even if your relative didn't leave the UK. A lot of British and foreign news was copied as were shipping arrivals & departures, functions, transportation, all sorts. I've also come across info that was passed on direct by families and not always recorded in the JC for example. http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast and http://trove.nla.gov.au/ <Trove was free> Naomi Ogin Brisbane