Hi Debbie, according to the Victorian BDM (Pioneer) Indxes, Michael Alfred JACOBS and Leah SCHNEIDERS (SNIDERS) had 3 children in Melbourne. 1874 Henry Michael JACOBS Melbourne North (cn.4102) (note athers name Michael Alfred Jacobs) 1875 Zadock Alfred JACOBS Melbourne (cn.17354) (note fathes name Michael Jacobs) 1876 Rebecca Rosetta JACOBS Carlton (cn. 21672) (note fathers name Alfred Michael Jacobs) Death 1875 Henry Michael JACOBS aged 1 Parents: Alfred Michael Jacobs and Leah Schneider @ Hotham (North Melbourne) (cn. 13987) Given this history of your family, I would investigate Melbourne as the most likley port to which your family emigrated, and some of these inward passenger lists are available online. Hope this helps regards Lesley Melbourne, Australia

Thanks very much, I did find mention of them in Melbourne and got Zadok birth certificate, please coud you give me the link to the Online Index for unassisted Passengers as I have great difficulty with this area of research. Debs On Jan 22, 2008 1:27 PM, <bbqman@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hello again Debbie, > > I have just checked the Online Index to Unassisted Passenger Lists to > Victoria 1852 - 1923. > > The following entry may interest you. > > Arrival > Nov 1873 Ship " The Tweed" Alfred M JACOBS Aged 21 > LEAGH JACOBS Aged 18 > > Kind regards > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bea, You can find most things via Google! Look for Stadsarchief Antwerpen, I have a very long url, won't give that, but go to http://stadsarchief.antwerpen.be/Unrestricted/Zoeken_isad.aspx there you click "zoek" upper right hand corner, you will see the link to Vreemdelingenregisters. Good luck Jan BOUSSE, Oostende, Belgium P.S. I am going there tomorrow, if you have any concrete request I could try to fit it in. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea" <blspabas@btinternet.com> To: <BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Brussels, and Antwerp > Thanks for providing the Brussels & Nat.Archives links. > > Can anyone also provide any info for any archives in Antwerp as well?! > > Ta again! > > B. Shiel

Thanks for providing the Brussels & Nat.Archives links. Can anyone also provide any info for any archives in Antwerp as well?! Ta again! B. Shiel

A Michael JACOBS has been found! Due to continuous phone signal problems in the outer Hebrides, I have not managed to do too much investigation on him but! National Archives - Divorce between Leah JACOBS and Alfred Michael JACOBS - sent off for it. It was the right one! He seemed to have changed his name to Alfred Michael, Michael at birth and on 1st Marriage but now Alfred. They went to Australia, had 2 children came home and he undertook a bigamous marriage in 1880 in which he was imprisoned for a month. Sending off for the remaining pages to find out what happened. I guess the moral of the story never just assume, they lived happier ever after after, I alway look on the census expecting them to be there year after year with their family growing and them being looked after by their children in their old age etc. etc. As anside, does any one know an easy way of find passenger list to Australia pre 1890, as in my experience unless you know what state they went to it is very difficult. Thanks Debbie Bozkurt - Outer Hebrides - Freezing

Debbie, I too have experienced this with my SAMUEL surname. Only mine changed from SAMUEL to SAMUELS upon their arrival from England to the USA in the 1880's. In England, it was always SAMUEL. In the USA it has always been SAMUELS. Luana Debbie Bozkurt wrote: > In other peoples experience have you found over time on records that a > surname, for example, the one I am looking at is ISAAC, can vary from ISAAC > to ISAACS. I have found the same record translated differently from the GS > records, spelt differently from the Directories to the Census records. Can I > safely look at both, i.e. if I am looking for a David ISAAC family can I > assume that some may have been recorded as ISAACS. > > Silly question I know but research can be an expensive hobby and I don't > want to either waste money or miss something either. > > Thanks > > Debbie Bozkurt from a Dark Damp wet Outer Hebrides > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Louise, regarding merges, this isnt as difficult as it seems, as long as your Dorot program will allow you to have 2 databases open side by side at the same time. what you need to do is...find one common person in both databases.......and literally drag the second one to your first.....when program asked you what you wish to do......sellect copy entire database...... that was the easy part..... your program should have the facilities to merge duplicate records.........now......as long as all the records in both databases for each person are identical....then the program should merge the data automatically. hope that helps...if not.ring me, i'll talk you through it regards Josev

Hi Jan, I know that! Hence the smiley after the sentence. Sherry (whose European geography & history leave rather a lot to be desired) On 21/01/2008, Jan Bousse <janbousse@skynet.be> wrote: > Sherry, > > The national languages of Belgium are Dutch, French and German. The majority > in Belgium, 60%, is Dutch speaking. The archives are in the official > language of the country, the town or the province, as may be the case.

Sherry, The national languages of Belgium are Dutch, French and German. The majority in Belgium, 60%, is Dutch speaking. The archives are in the official language of the country, the town or the province, as may be the case. It's difficult for people to do research in Poland when they don't speak Polish, the same for Germany, France, wherever. So Belgium is no exception. As for being available on the internet, the only information online are the indexes of the "Vreemdelingenregisters" (sorry, the language there is Dutch) in Antwerpen (Antwerp for the English). Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry with Sky" <SherryELanda@sky.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Aliens in Brussels > Thanks Jan, > > It is very confusing for non-Vlaams speaking people to try to research > ;-) I don't mind them moving the data to another repository, I just > hope that they keep it available on the internet. > > Sherry (still in Salford)

Bea, You'll find the information on the National Archives on the website: http://surf.to/BEL-archives. The other Brussels archive you mean is probably the records of the Vreemdelingendienst - Office des Etrangers. You can mail Louis Philippe Arnhem at louisphilippe.arnhem@dofi.fgov.be. If you are looking for the aliens records of the city of Brussels, the e-mail address is : archief@brucity.be Jan BOUSSE, Oostende, Belgium janbousse@skynet.be ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bea" <blspabas@btinternet.com> To: <BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] re Aliens in Brussels >I may have accidentally deleted a post or 2, but hoped someone could >provide > the name, address, email & website for the Brussels National Archives and > for the other Brussels archive too? > > Thanks! > B. Shiel

I may have accidentally deleted a post or 2, but hoped someone could provide the name, address, email & website for the Brussels National Archives and for the other Brussels archive too? Thanks! B. Shiel

Thanks Jan, It is very confusing for non-Vlaams speaking people to try to research ;-) I don't mind them moving the data to another repository, I just hope that they keep it available on the internet. Sherry (still in Salford) > The city archives of Brussels (I stress, of the city of Brussels itself, not > the communes around it) also have files on aliens who settled there. There > are aliens files for the whole country at the National Archives in Brussels > and there are also the records of the Vreemdelingendienst - Office des > Etrangers in Brussels. How far these overlap is not clear. It's been > confirmed that in the near future the records of the Vreemdelingendienst > will be transferred to the National Archives. Don't ask me if that will make > research easier.

Sherry, The city archives of Brussels (I stress, of the city of Brussels itself, not the communes around it) also have files on aliens who settled there. There are aliens files for the whole country at the National Archives in Brussels and there are also the records of the Vreemdelingendienst - Office des Etrangers in Brussels. How far these overlap is not clear. It's been confirmed that in the near future the records of the Vreemdelingendienst will be transferred to the National Archives. Don't ask me if that will make research easier. Jan Bousse, Oostende, Belgium janbousse@skynet.be ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry with Sky" <SherryELanda@sky.com> To: "BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com" <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Aliens in Brussels >I know there is (was) a list of aliens in Antwerp on line. Is there a > similar list of aliens in Brussels? > > Thanks > Sherry (it stopped raining at lunch time, but it's very windy now, > Salford)

I know there is (was) a list of aliens in Antwerp on line. Is there a similar list of aliens in Brussels? Thanks Sherry (it stopped raining at lunch time, but it's very windy now, Salford)

Dear Listers, thank you all for your help. I found my old Dorot Buddy and Josev has also suggested some good ideas. Now I am all set to try the advices out. best wishes, Louise

Thank you joseph for suggesting i make a gedcom and drag it to the meory stick. From there i can drag the others, but HOW do I merge them together. That is the question. with many thanks for your help, Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josev" <jking44@ntlworld.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Dorot > Hi Louise, > > first thing you need to do is create a gedcom. > > this will then be a small file that you can easily copy..........just drag > to the memory stick. > > as regards all the other trees etc, i suggest that you do the same thing > with each of them...... > > although i would suggest that once you have them saved as gedcoms, that > they are all merged into one tree, and again..save this also. > >

Hi Louise, first thing you need to do is create a gedcom. this will then be a small file that you can easily copy..........just drag to the memory stick. as regards all the other trees etc, i suggest that you do the same thing with each of them...... although i would suggest that once you have them saved as gedcoms, that they are all merged into one tree, and again..save this also. if needsbe........contact me offline........0161 796 3252 and i'll discuss things with you. regards Josev

DearListers, Some time ago someone kindly helped me with Dorot which she herslef uses. I now need to find her again, or someone else who can answer the following questions. How do I take all my genealogy material on the Dorot programme ( a n i am sure it applies to any other) and put a copy of it onto a memory stick, a for safety and by for taking to Israel where i want to work on data there., or in any other place. If I try to copy it on the screen, all I get is that particular page. I need everything on the memory. I have also found that I ave so many version of my tree and would like to sort them all out into just one data base as i now dont know where to get the material from or which one to put it on. Help, Louise in London

The Teplice (Teplitz, Teplize) web pages have now been launched by JewGen Shtetlinks, thanks to the great help and encouragement from Susana Leistner Bloch, Barbara Ellman and Vince Pritchard, as well as all the family historians who shared their work with me. Teplice once had the grandest synagogue in the region, and a Jewish population of 6,500 in 1937. Within a few years, all had gone. Within 24 hours of launching the website it was "found" by one of the last Holocaust survivors of the town, who is living in Israel, trying to raise the funds to publish the memoirs of her appalling young life. She is related to about two-thirds of the people whose names appear on tombstones. In terms of a breakthrough in research, this is phenomenal. Hopefully we will gradually be able to resconstruct the history of the lost. I would encourage anyone who has connections to these lost communities to get involved in the shtetlink project. It is a good focus for our research, contextualises our own families as well as returning something to the wider community of family historians. In addition, I have found it useful to develop the courage to go and correct history in Wikipedia and other places, and to give those ancestors who should have had a place in history, some profile. http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Teplice/ Ann Jensen, Australia "The best way to become acquainted with a subject is to write a book about it." ~ Benjamin Disraeli

Carolyn, Your research sounds impressively creative and exhaustive ! What are your rates for services ? : ) Eve (who realises she has to leave marmalade-making alone and do some more searching !)