Thankyou Carolyn for the Old Bailey details. My first search yielded an eight page transcript of a fraud case I have been trying to track (Samuel Behrens Heidenreech and Libo Broski). Free!! Now I need a lawyer because the result was "guilty - judgement respited"...a word not in my dictionary, but presumably means given respite (??) Ann Jensen

Alerted by Carolyn's message on 16 May, I searched in the Old Bailey transcripts for my London ancestors: I found that my ggf Zyman Diamond [a wood turner/carver] was a defence witness in DAVIS GORDON, Deception > perjury, 20th October 1890. Reference Number: t18901020-791 There are just 3 lines of Zyman's evidence, he said he bought 5 benches from defendant. The proceedings seem complex and I do not understand what the various witnesses were demonstrating. Would anyone like to comment? I would like to know more re the defendant: a Davis Gordon was shown in the 1891 census in London City aged ca 30, he seems to fit, I will want to know his occupation, presumably in the furniture or similar trade if he is the defendant. As to other vwitnesses with unusual names eg Nathan Honigbaum, Louis Karlstein, Maurice Zlotnick, Marx Galinsky, they do not show in the census, had they all migrated by the census 6 months later? Bryan Diamond London

Dear Brian, I suggest you contact the Suwalki Lomza Interest Group as they publish data about Suwalki Lomza people. You can become a member by contacting Marlene Silverman, Box 228, 3701 Connecticut Avenue NW, Washington DC, 20008, USA. Suwalki gubernia was in NE Poland, but part of it went into Lithuania after 1918. Suwalkers commonly came to UK relatively early - mostly in 1860's and 1870's. Mine came over in 1865 to avoid outcomes of 1863 Polish uprising against the Russian rulers, and then again in period 1868-1872 to avoid several years of famine and crop failure when food was in short supply. Their closeness to the Baltic (next to Konigsberg in East Prussia now Kaliningrad) enabled escape. Suwalkers also commonly went to Northern England and Scotland - mine went to Hull (and later Grimsby and Sheffield), Edinburgh, Liverpool and Manchester. There were others who went to South Wales. David Baddiel (who appeared in Who did you think you are?) had ancestors who went from Konigsberg to Swansea, so Swansea attracted people from that area. Brian should be aware that Suwalki can refer to either the town or Gubernia (County or Province). His ancestor most likely came from a town within the Gubernia. If his ancestor naturalised, then he should be able to find out more details e.g. such as last names, family members and town of origin (my father's family came from near Augustow). . See naturalisations online at National Archives. I also have photos of towns in the area (incl Suwalki town) from a visit in 2000. Jill Whitehead On Editorial Committee of Landsmen, journal of Suwalki Lomza Interest Group. (With three and possibly four great grandparents from Suwalki Lomza gubernias) Referring to: "I am looking for info on a John Myers, born in 1856--probably in Suwalki, Russia (now Poland), died in 1916, married to Deborah Golubska Myers, residing in London in the 1891 census, but by 1901 had moved to Swansea, Wales. I would like to know his original name (both common and surname). His wife, Deborah, was a sister to my wife's great-grandmother. Thanks if you or anybody has info on that Myers family. Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA (where the temperature has been in the 90's this week) "

There is a Woodsome Road in London NW5. Hopefully someone will know the area better than me! Regards Gaby 2008/5/17 Ron Bower <ruebin7@optusnet.com.au>: > > Hi Listers, > I am searching for a Clare Ziporah Braithwaite, she submitted a Page of > testimony to Yad Vashem, for her Great Grandfather who perished in the > Camps.. She gave her address as Woodsome road London, but I have done all >

If you search Jewisgen's Holocaust database, you'll find a Dr. Adolph Mayer of Gyor listed as a victim at Auschwitz. Family Tree of the Jewish People also has someone you can contact researching Adolph Mayer from Gyor married to Gizella Gold so everything fits with the page of testimony. Parents are Lipot Mayer and Mari Fleischman. Jackye Sullins >I have just contacted a Clare Braithwaite through genesreunited and am > awaiting her reply. It's a long shot, but who knows. > > Danielle Sanderson

To Jackye Sullins and helpers Research for Meyers. Herman Meyer(b abt 1763 Bremen Germany) m Anna Bertha Steinau (b abt 1765 Bremen Germany) son Frederick Meyers (b 1785 Bremen Germany) m Judith ? (b 1788 London England) died 18 June 1825 Tasmania They had 3 sons: Frederick b abt 1811; Benjamin b abt 1813 and Thomas b abt 1815 Tasmania Frederick Meyers b 1785 also married Rebecca Wild and their linage traces to Australia but is not mine. Thomas Meyers m Julia Lazarus (b 1818 London England). Their son Henry Solomon Meyers was my GGF. Looking for confirmation that Herman Meyer is really my lineage. But cant trace in UK or Germany. Have researched using Genuki and a kind gentleman in UK who has retired and unable to help me anymore. Re Lewis Looking for confirmation that Solomon Lewis was born in Russia in 1800. I have census details for Solomon's family in UK. Cant find any way to trace back from Solomon. Have been in contact with several Lewis researchers in UK but not my lineage as yet. Happy to concentrate on Meyers and Lewis and leave Dorn until some other time. Thank you John Meyers

Hello, John! I am looking for info on a John Myers, born in 1856--probably in Suwalki, Russia (now Poland), died in 1916, married to Deborah Golubska Myers, residing in London in the 1891 census, but by 1901 had moved to Swansea, Wales. I would like to know his original name (both common and surname). His wife, Deborah, was a sister to my wife's great-grandmother. Thanks if you or anybody has info on that Myers family. Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA (where the temperature has been in the 90's this week) **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Hi, all. I was tinkering with Old Bailey records of criminal trials in London yesterday and realized they had added records from 1834 to 1913! Just searching the same family names and having a new horizon yielded results--my great great great grandmother's uncle, Samuel Solomons who I thought was a curiosity dealer (census report) was listed by his son in law as having a tobacco manufactury on Cable Street in 1880. It was interesting to me, because that was the last, and as far as I know, only chunk of the London family that hadn't immigrated by then. They were victims of some kind of theft (lucky for me that area was so crime ridden...actually by then it was starting to be the Jack the Ripper area, but my family tended to be yelling "stop thief!", asking someone if that thing they were pawning was really theirs, or saying (circa 1818) that the serving girl was home with her mother on Easter Sunday (when the mom's new husband was accused of committing a violent crime--serving girl said father was with them at the meal--he was found guilty and sentenced to death so her alibi didn't help--fun detail: the serving girl had my great great great great grandmother's toddler son with her--probably the above mentioned Samuel Solomon's younger brother Joseph and, as my ancestor Phoebe Solomon said, "I would have remembered if she had been out late with my child") For the new trials, I don't see a way to click on the location of crimes, which was a useful feature in the old records, but I see the old records from 16whatever-1830 are available, and one can enter a street into that map search. The map search function was extremely important in establishing the connection for my family to Cable Street/Back Church Lane/Rosemary Lane (now called Mint Street) and a tiny yard off Rosemary called "Swallow's Gardens" (home of Phoebe and Emanuel in 1818 and half a block from every named location for that family for every census/record for the next 65 years). Anyway, here's the link: http://www.hrionline.ac.uk/ccc/forms/formMain.jsp Carolyn Hahn, NYC Searching for SOLOMON/S in St George in the East

Searching for ancestors for my GGM Matilda Lewis. Have found a document in Auckland which tells me a great deal about other members of the Lewis family, but seeking help with tracing Solomon Lewis back to Poland or Russia and then Ann Levy's linage Solomon LEWIS (b.1800 Russia) married Ann LEVY children were: Henry LEWIS (b.1833 London d.1916 New Zealand) Michael LEWIS (b.1836 London) Matilda LEWIS (b.21 Nov 1838 London d. 5 Dec 1895 Sydney, Australia married Henry Solomon MEYERS 13 Nov 1867 Auckland, NZ) Esther LEWIS (b.1841 London) Gabriel LEWIS (b. 1842 London d.26 Nov 1917 Auckland, NZ married Rebecca ISAACS 19 May 1863, Auckland, NZ) Morris LEWIS (b.1843 London d.1880 unknown married Jane Stephens LEVY unknown date London) Leah LEWIS (b.1845 London) Annie LEWIS (b.1847 London) Any help or direction welcome, please. Happy to share full details of Lewis for 3 generations. John Meyers NSW Australia

The British Library has a large collection of electoral rolls. You could check there for yourself at St Pancras.Check here http://www.bl.uk/services/reading/reading.html for details of identification etc that you must take to become a reader. Best to arrive early in the morning as since it has been made available to undergraduates it has become overcrowded as opposed to just busy before. Hazel Dakers, London UK www.hazeldakers.co.uk Researching: NORDEN (London & South Africa); HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany and South Africa); GOLD (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland), BIRNBAUM (Zgierz and Lodz, Poland) Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:16:39 +0100 From: "Sanderson Family" <sanderson_family@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Bournemouth electoral roll To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001e01c8b525$80f55bc0$6401a8c0@SANDERSONSTUDY> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original A relative in Australia is very keen to make contact with a long-lost cousin, who lived in Corfe-Mullen, Bournemouth 12 years ago, but has since moved house, and changed 'phone no. Is there anyone in the Bournemouth area who could check the electoral roll for Arthur Anthony Daniel White (known as Tony) who married Helen Van Weezenbeek, and let me know their address? I thought with such a maiden name I might be able to trace a relative of Helen, but no luck so far. Thanks in anticipation. Danielle Sanderson Bushey ------------------------------ To contact the BRITISH-JEWRY list administrator, send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRITISH-JEWRY mailing list, send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRITISH-JEWRY Digest, Vol 3, Issue 188 *********************************************

Please tell us what research you've already done so we can help you in the best way. Jackye Sullins > Searching for ancestors for my GGM Matilda Lewis. Have found a document in > Auckland which tells me a great deal about other members of the Lewis > family, but seeking help with tracing Solomon Lewis back to Poland or > Russia > and then Ann Levy's linage > > Solomon LEWIS (b.1800 Russia) married Ann LEVY children were: > Henry LEWIS (b.1833 London d.1916 New Zealand) > Michael LEWIS (b.1836 London) > Matilda LEWIS (b.21 Nov 1838 London d. 5 Dec 1895 Sydney, Australia > married > Henry Solomon MEYERS 13 Nov 1867 Auckland, NZ) > Esther LEWIS (b.1841 London) > Gabriel LEWIS (b. 1842 London d.26 Nov 1917 Auckland, NZ married Rebecca > ISAACS 19 May 1863, Auckland, NZ) > Morris LEWIS (b.1843 London d.1880 unknown married Jane Stephens LEVY > unknown date London) > Leah LEWIS (b.1845 London) > Annie LEWIS (b.1847 London) > > Any help or direction welcome, please. Happy to share full details of > Lewis > for 3 generations. > > John Meyers > NSW Australia

A relative in Australia is very keen to make contact with a long-lost cousin, who lived in Corfe-Mullen, Bournemouth 12 years ago, but has since moved house, and changed 'phone no. Is there anyone in the Bournemouth area who could check the electoral roll for Arthur Anthony Daniel White (known as Tony) who married Helen Van Weezenbeek, and let me know their address? I thought with such a maiden name I might be able to trace a relative of Helen, but no luck so far. Thanks in anticipation. Danielle Sanderson Bushey

I've got a David Harris who married Hannah da Costa (daughter of Dan and Sarah) in 1894 - unlikely but any connection? David L. Levy Professor and Chair Department of Management and Marketing University of Massachusetts, Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd., Boston, MA 02125, USA http://www.faculty.umb.edu/david_levy/

Thanks Eve, It's Leah's marriage to Alfred BROOKS that started the whole thing! Sherry On 10/05/2008, Eve Richardson <erchrdsn@pathcom.com> wrote: > James Marks died at his residence, Gough Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham. 'Australian and Cape papers please copy.' > > Gertrude was married 31.10.1877 in Birmingham to Philip, son of Keivi Brown Plosk, Poland. > > Leah, sixth daughter of James Marks, married 21.2.1872,at the residence of her parents, 5 Wellington Terrace, Mosely Road, Birmingham, to Alfred Brooks of Cardiff.

Louise's mention of the Haris family reminds me that a few years ago I was researching an English HARRIS family. The parents were Joseph and Rachel (COSTA) Harris. They married in 1821. One of their children, Leah eventually emigrated to the United States where she married Adolph SUTRO. Sadly theirs wasn't a happy marriage. She died in 1893, hence unable to see her husband become the second Jewish mayor of San Francisco (1895-97). Sutro himself died the following year. Leah had an older brother, Morris, who moved to Dublin and became friendly with James Joyce to the extent that Morris featured in Joyce's novel Ulysses. Ahh, nothing like a bit of trivia! Enjoy! Jeremy G Frankel ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England Berkeley, California, USA >Louise wrote: >Dear Danielle, Amelia the mother of Amelia who married a Marks, was the >sister of my great grandfather Michael Hart and thus Amelia who married a >Marks was the first cousin of Michael Hart.

In the JV it just mentions that he died at his residence Gough Rd, Edgbaston, Birmingham aged 67 after a long and painful illness born with great fortitude. (Australian and Cape papers please copy). See Gertrude Sarah Marks (daughter) and Philip Brown (son-in-law), and, separately, see Leah Marks and Alfred Brooks. No other children are mentioned. A year earlier there's a James Marks at Gotha House, Marna Rd, Edgbaston, with wife Sarah, thanking for condolences on the death of their son Josiah. Don't know if there's a connection. Leah m 21/2/1872 at 5 Wellington Terrace, Mosely Rd, Bham Gertrude m 31/10/1877 at Singer's Hill Regards Danielle > Can someone with the above please look up James MARKS. He died 9 Oct > 1876. I can't locate a death notice in the JC online archives, but I > think there would have been one, because later there are memorial > notices.... > > I need the list of children (seeking married names and locations) one > would be Gertrude BROWN and another Leah BROOKS.

Hi, My copy is in France, unlike me and my email address :-( Can someone with the above please look up James MARKS. He died 9 Oct 1876. I can't locate a death notice in the JC online archives, but I think there would have been one, because later there are memorial notices.... I need the list of children (seeking married names and locations) one would be Gertrude BROWN and another Leah BROOKS. Thanks for any help. Sherry (Salford, LAN)

> > Can someone with the above please look up James MARKS. He died 9 Oct > 1876. Hi Sherry, The notice only mentions Gertrude Sara Marks, daughter, and Philip Brown, son-in-law (Gertrude's husband). There is a marriage notice for the latter pair but no other individuals mentioned. James Marks died at his residence, Gough Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham. 'Australian and Cape papers please copy.' Gertrude was married 31.10.1877 in Birmingham to Philip, son of Keivi Brown Plosk, Poland. Leah, sixth daughter of James Marks, married 21.2.1872,at the residence of her parents, 5 Wellington Terrace, Mosely Road, Birmingham, to Alfred Brooks of Cardiff. Eve

> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alfred and Louise" <alfredlouise@btinternet.com> > To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] (no subject) > > >> Dear Danielle, Amelia the mother of Amelia who married a Marks, was the >> sister of my great grandfather Michael Hart and thus Amelia who married a >> M arks was the first cousin of Michael Hart. >> >> I am interested in her descendents, but it would appear that you are >> working on the first wife of Julius Marks and she is his second wife. Am >> I correct. >> >> If however you know anything about the Levy Green family as regards >> putting flesh onto the skeleton tree, I would be very grateful. >> >> Amelia and Ephraim had a man and woman staying with them, according to >> the census, called Lipmann Hart and Elizabeth Hart who they put down as >> Aunt and Uncle. would you have any clue about them and where they came >> from. I believe their sister may have been the late wife of Amelia >> Hart,so father Aaron and thus her mother. Her name was Esther? >> >> With best wishes, Louise >> with best wishes, >> Louise >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sanderson Family" <sanderson_family@ntlworld.com> >> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] (no subject) >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >