Oops! I just realized that you asked about a "first name"--not a surname! You can now ignore my previous post! ;-) Sorry. Brian In a message dated 5/20/2008 5:55:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, barnett@netspace.net.au writes: Hello Listers Can someone please tell me if there is a usual Hebrew equivalent for the first name Harris? Many thanks Naomi Barnett **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Hello, Naomi! I don't necessarily think this is a "usual" Hebrew equivalent, but I can tell you that at least one member of my family changed his surname to "Harris" from the Hebrew name "KHARATZ" (usually spelled "Charatz" in the U.S., sometimes "Haratz" or "Harats"), a name that itself is almost surely an acronym of "Khoson Reb Zvi" (son-in-law of Reb Zvi, or possibly Reb Tzadik or a similar "Tz-" name). I believe that Jews are the only (or one of very few) cultural group(s) known to have created surnames out of acronyms. (Some famous rabbis have acronymic names, such as RAMBAM.) Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA In a message dated 5/20/2008 5:55:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, barnett@netspace.net.au writes: Hello Listers Can someone please tell me if there is a usual Hebrew equivalent for the first name Harris? Many thanks Naomi Barnett **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

As you know, there's no one name but Hersh is a common one. I would check out the given names database on Jewishgen. Jackye > > Can someone please tell me if there is a usual Hebrew equivalent for the > first name Harris? > > Naomi Barnett > Melbourne, Australia

Hello Listers Via the very recently available United Synagogue Marriage authorisation listings I found a marriage I *may* be interested in. On 1 November 1882 in Leeds Synagogue, Morris Berzinski and Etty Cohen. I'm curious to know if there is any more information available on this couple (groom's father's name would be fantastic) as I've found nothing anywhere else. Many thanks Naomi Barnett Melbourne, Australia

Hi Naomi, The marriage entry reads Morris BERSINSKY, 22, bachelor, tailor, of 40 Templar St., s/o Harris BERSINSKY, tailor and Etty COHEN, 21, spinster, of 12 St Albans St., d/o Abraham COHEN, tailor. HTH Sherry On 19/05/2008, Merv & Naomi Barnett <barnett@netspace.net.au> wrote: On 1 November 1882 in Leeds Synagogue, Morris Berzinski and Etty Cohen. > > I'm curious to know if there is any more information available on this > couple (groom's father's name would be fantastic) as I've found nothing > anywhere else. >

With regard to Berzinski I have Bernhard Barczinsky and his brother marrying into my Crawcour lines with one side of the family settling in Glasgow. The Barczinsky line is partly referred to in Berger 1861-70 with various relatives of my Crawcour line being referred to.Are Berzinski and Barczinsky tow separate lines as a matter of interest? Dr Phillip Kirby Norfolk England

Naomi - Whenever I run Soundex searches for my Frezinski family, the name Berzinski comes up. Could Morris Berzinski infact be a Frezinski I wonder? I am descended from Frezinski's on both sides of my mother's family. and over the years have collected any data that I have come across on them. The Frezinski's (and variant spellings) came from Mariampol and I believe that they are all related, though I have not yet managed to piece together all the pieces of the puzzle. I do not yet know how the two sides of my mothers family are related. One lot emigrated to Manchester (1870's) and the other to Scotland (1860's). If you do discover anything of interest about Morris Berzinski, then I would be grateful if you could keep me in the loop. Regards, Lois Kaufman London -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merv & Naomi Barnett Sent: 19 May 2008 13:03 To: British Jewry Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Marriage 1882 Leeds Berzinski & Cohen Hello Listers Via the very recently available United Synagogue Marriage authorisation listings I found a marriage I *may* be interested in. On 1 November 1882 in Leeds Synagogue, Morris Berzinski and Etty Cohen. I'm curious to know if there is any more information available on this couple (groom's father's name would be fantastic) as I've found nothing anywhere else. Many thanks Naomi Barnett Melbourne, Australia Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 2932 (20080309) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

Hi, Ann--glad you found something! People were respited for a veriety of reasons. A woman sentenced to death could "plead her belly" and be respited till the child was born--you can def. research the punishments given and how often they were really carried out (there wasn't much mercy!). But that was in the pre-1830's records, where many people were sentenced to death or transported for life for minor crimes. It will be interesting to see how much respiting went on later... Carolyn Hahn, NYC searching SOLOMON/S of St George in the East & Kent -----Original Message----- >From: Mrs Mansefield <annjen@ozemail.com.au> >> Now I need a lawyer because the >result was "guilty - judgement respited"...a word not in my dictionary, but >presumably means given respite (??) >Ann Jensen > > >

Thanks for some help re some other witnesses in the trial of Davis Gordon. The defence witnesses gave a series of statements re some minor transactions with the defendant. Zyman's I quote below; I am now intrigued as to what type of benches he wanted; I surmise turner's benches on which lathes would be mounted; Censuses describe him as an Employer, but I have no details of employees; in1880s he had two addresses in street directories, so he may have had several lathes, but I am puzzled that he could use 5 lathe benches. This is trade history rather than genealogy - but related. Does anyone have ideas about the benches? ZYMAN DIAMOND . In July the prisoner owed me 25s., and ....I bought of him five benches for ready money ­ I left them in his possession .., because we had no place to put them. Bryan Diamond

Frances You posted a message on Brit Jewry, headed as above -but mine I got without any message content. What did you intend, can you repost? You refer to the Old Bailey proceedings to give some help? You will see that I have also found my ggf Zyman there - bit am puzzles re the whole proceedings and what his statement means; I will post his remarks. I am struggling to complete a revised Diamond History, then will revise my Hauser one. Best wishes Bryan Bryan Diamond Tel 0207 433 1876

I am searching for any information on Rachel Joseph who is noted in the 1881 census as age 14 (born approx 1867) in Mile End and living with her uncle and aunt Harris and Leah Levy nee Moses at 1, Nottingham Place, London. Also in the household was Leah's father Simon Moses age 70 (born approx 1811) who is noted as a furrier and who was born in Poland. Any further information on Simon, his spouse and other children will be gratefully received. Many thanks Geoff Munitz ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

Hi Gabby, Thnaks Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaby Laws" <gabylaws@googlemail.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Searching for Claire Braithwaite > There is a Woodsome Road in London NW5. > > Hopefully someone will know the area better than me! > > Regards > Gaby > > 2008/5/17 Ron Bower <ruebin7@optusnet.com.au>: >> >> Hi Listers, >> I am searching for a Clare Ziporah Braithwaite, she submitted a Page of >> testimony to Yad Vashem, for her Great Grandfather who perished in the >> Camps.. She gave her address as Woodsome road London, but I have done >> all >> > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Danielle, Thanks, some time longshorts pay off. Look forward to hearing from you Regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanderson Family" <sanderson_family@ntlworld.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Searching for Claire Braithwaite >I have just contacted a Clare Braithwaite through genesreunited and am > awaiting her reply. It's a long shot, but who knows. > > Danielle Sanderson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Bower" <ruebin7@optusnet.com.au> > To: <BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:34 AM > Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Searching for Claire Braithwaite > > >> Hi Listers, >> I am searching for a Clare Ziporah Braithwaite, she submitted a Page of > > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Angela and Gaby I do not know if the names Kallis/Collis are relevant to Kalisch/Collins but I hold a copy of the Hyamson family tree of Isaac of Kalisch d 16.12.1783 Bristol which includes links to Hyman Collins b 1780 d 1 Grove Terrace Nottinghill 31.8.1835 m Mary Davis. These lines are nothing to do with me but I copied them on behalf of an Australian contact who has them in his lines. You are welcome to a copy of the 4 pages if they are relevant. Dr Phillip Kirby Norfolk England

Hi Listers, I am searching for a Clare Ziporah Braithwaite, she submitted a Page of testimony to Yad Vashem, for her Great Grandfather who perished in the Camps.. She gave her address as Woodsome road London, but I have done all the searches I can on the "net", and have come up with nothing. The page of Testimony is typed and undated, so I don't know when it was submitted. I have just found this new "branch" to my family. It turns out her Grandmother, and mine were sisters, and I would very much like to contact Claire.Her families names were Gizella & Adolph Mayer from Gyor in Hungary. .If anyone knows of her, and can either give me her contact details or if she can contact me directly, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ron Bower Melbourne AUSTRALIA

In a message dated 5/17/2008 4:14:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jill.whitehead@blueyonder.co.uk writes: I suggest you contact the Suwalki Lomza Interest Group as they publish data about Suwalki Lomza people. You can become a member by contacting Marlene Silverman, Box 228, 3701 Connecticut Avenue NW, Washington DC, 20008, USA. Thanks, Jill. I am a charter member of that SIG and have been a member continuously since its inception. Unless someone in this group has direct knowledge of the Myers family from Suwalki, my best hope is British naturalization records. Brian **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

I have just contacted a Clare Braithwaite through genesreunited and am awaiting her reply. It's a long shot, but who knows. Danielle Sanderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bower" <ruebin7@optusnet.com.au> To: <BRITISH-JEWRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Searching for Claire Braithwaite > Hi Listers, > I am searching for a Clare Ziporah Braithwaite, she submitted a Page of

Bryan, Try Morris SLOTNICK (cabinet maker)...I am struggling with the others, but at least I found one for you. Best Sherry On 17/05/2008, Bryan Diamond <bryan@bjdiamond.plus.com> wrote: > > As to other vwitnesses with unusual > names eg Nathan Honigbaum, Louis Karlstein, Maurice Zlotnick, Marx > Galinsky, they do not show in the census, had they all migrated by > the census 6 months later? > >

If anyone has already researched the English branch of the Kallis\Collis family could they please contact Gaby or me. Your help would be much appreciated Angela Shire Gaby Laws

Nathan HONIGSBAUM cabinet maker b.Russia 5, Fountain Street, Bethnal Gree Not in the furniture line If Marks Galinsky became Morris? then he was a grocer born Russian Poland living 30, Great Alie Street, Whitechapel Even less likely is Marks aged 20 b. Russian Poland cap maker of Rothschilds Buildings, Thrawl Street, Spitalfields Angela