Debbie Bozkurt <debbieinscotland@googlemail.com> seeks help with the following query: I am searching for anything on my Great Grandfather Moses PHILLIPS (born Mile End, LONDON) , I know the basic dates, wife and children but nothing about him. He died before any of my Immediate family was born and my Grandfather who was 20 when his father died, also died before I was born. Lived as far as I know in London all his life. There is only one photo of him which my mother rescued from her very eldery aunt's (by marriage) bin together with a young picture of his wife, this could have been lost forever. This picture of my Great Grandfather was taken between about 1895 and 1900 ish ( I think)when he would have been in his early 20s, he looks relatively young if you discount the huge moustage. He is in military uniform, a Sergaent I think. Can any one tell me what uniform this was and if there is a list of pre World War 1 Jewish Soldiers anywhere. I have search National Archives and he is not there but if I knew the Regiment it might narrow my searching. I live in the Outer Hebrides so I do my research mostly on line. Any help gratefully received. Please see http://www.british-jewry.org.uk/New%20Member%20Area/Digital%20View/digitalview.htm and remember to reply to list so everyone can see the responses. Thanks Sherry

I did not plan the details of my trip in advance as it was a last minute trip and then while in London I also tried to go on a tour with the same result. Good luck, I hope you are more successful! Jonny Joseph Los Angeles Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:11:00 +1000 From: "John Meyers" <meyersje@bigpond.net.au> Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] finding London Jewish Tours To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003101c8d77d$54276190$fc7624b0$@net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Looking for the London Jewish Tour contact numbers as the website email bounces and the 07 phone number is an answer phone that is not returned. We looking to book on 12 August and hope someone can help me visit the birthplace of my ancestors **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Looking for the London Jewish Tour contact numbers as the website email bounces and the 07 phone number is an answer phone that is not returned. We looking to book on 12 August and hope someone can help me visit the birthplace of my ancestors John Meyers

Hello Ron, You asked about Sir Eli Nielsen. I have not been able to find anything about him either, but did a quick search to find death record of his mother, Trude Rosenberg/Neilsen. > Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Sir Eli Nielsen >>> She died in England 29.9.1972. I don't know exactly where...How can I find >> her death record?.> I've checked the death records for England for the date you gave. Nothing under either Rosenberg or Nielsen. Where did you get that date? Are you sure about it? I am sort of surprised that there is nothing on the web about a peer of the realm. Most of them seem to have lots written about them. What is your connection, if you don't mind me asking? Also Nielsen is a Scandanavian name - have your tried in that area? Good luck, Miriam Pollak Cambridge

> Hi Listers, > I am looking for a Sir Eli Nielsen. > He was born in Vienna 31.1.1925, and son of Trude Schwarz and Arthur > Rosenberg. > Arthur perished in Auschwitz, and Trude moved to England,From what I know > she changed her name to Nielsen. > She died in England 29.9.1972. I don't know exactly where...How can I find > her death record?. From what I know Eli, was her only child..I don't know > how long he may have been in England. He married a "Pamela", I have no > surname, or date of marriage, but there were 2 sons born Michael > 27/5/1967 and Mark 24/9/1968, possibly in Fiji. I have done the "google > "search, and what I could do from here in Australia. > If Anyone can help me locate him , I really would appreciate that help/ > Thanks > Ron Bower > Melbourne, AUSTRALIA

Hi Ron, I've just had a look on the Deaths index and I couldn't find the death for Trude Nielsen. The nearest I could find was a Mary Gertrude Nielsen born 28th Oct.1906. Death registered in Surrey SW September Qtr. 1972 Vol.5g page 1352. Don't know if this is yours ! Carole (Hereford U.K)

Hello Ron, Have you searched any of the online vital records indexes or looked at the GRO index for deaths? If you haven't done any research in England as yet, please read the list archives available at Rootsbweb for a good foundation on basic research suggestions. Jackye Sullins Admin. I have done the "google >> "search, and what I could do from here in Australia. >> If Anyone can help me locate him , I really would appreciate that help/ >> Thanks >> Ron Bower >> Melbourne, AUSTRALIA

Today I had the good fortune to look at book printed in 1922 entitled "British Jewry Book of Honour 1914 to 1918". Whilst at Tyne & Wear Archives, Newcastle upon Tyne. This book contains every Jewish serviceman (Army, Royal Navy & Royal Air Force) who fought in WW1. There are chapters on Bravery Awards, (for the higher awards their is précis on their heroic deed)War Dead (this includes their last known address) and service personnel (including the dead) by Force (Army Regiments, Navy Air Force) they were in. This chapter is a benefit to researchers as it mentions the Battalion they were in. Plus the Navy personnel has the name of the Ship they served in. There is a chapter on Jewish civilians who made valuable contribution to WW1 in their particular field, for example Nurses. The Final Chapter is photographs, mostly in memorium and they name indexed. It has a lot group photographs of personnel who survived the war. Although entitled "British Jewry" it also contains Jews from Canadian, Australian, New Zealand & South Africa. There was only 3,000 books printed. But it worth checking to see if you have relatives who fought in WW1. There is lot more information in this book than I have mentioned. I was lucky enough to able to locate details of my Great Grandfather. He was wounded & survived the war. But sadly his records were destroyed in 1941. But now I know which Battalion he was in. And this will allow me to find out a lot more on him. A book I definitely recommend to read especially the chapter on Jewish Chaplain Diary. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com

Hello Listers I've just found a listing in Harfield's 1891 Commercial Directory of the Jews of the United Kingdom for an A. Cohen. The listing is headed Strangeways and reads A. Cohen, 37 Briddon St, Hat and cap manufacturer. What relation is Strangeways to Briddon Street? My husband's ggrandfather was Abraham COHEN who in 1891 resided at 6 Johnson Street, Cheetham. He was a hat & cap manufacturer. I'm curious to find out if anyone knows whether it would be likely for someone working in Briddon St to be living in Johnson Street, Cheetham. Does that make sense? I'm trying to verify if this is 'our' A. Cohen. Many thanks. Naomi Barnett Melbourne, Australia

Lee. Thank you for responding. Do you know of any e-mail addresses I could contact. Couldn't find the Bribane genealogy society listed on JewishGen. Annette On JunNov 23, 1220082004, at 1:59 PM, Lee Haley wrote: > Hi Annette, > > There are some very helpful people on the Queensland (QLD) list who > might be > able to do a lookup for you at the library in Brisbane. > > Lee > > >> Thanks to the posting of cemetery records by AJHS I was able to find >> the following on my Grandfather's cousin and family. >> Maurice Wand died age 47 Hebrew name Chaim Aury son of Abraham Moshe >> Wand buried Mt Gravatt in Brisbane, Queensland >> His father Abraham [Arthur] Moshe Wand died age 81 Son of Uri? English >> records show his father's name as Maurice >> Abraham birth 16-8-1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland died 1974 Family lived >> in Manchester and Salford, England >> Records show >> Maurice buried row 1 # 26 Sec. 4C >> Bessie Wand row 1 #6 age 69 [ husband, son and daughter-in-law in >> same stone #5] >> Abraham Moshe Wand row 1 [son and daughter-in-law same stone # 6 >> >> I know Abraham Moshe Wand had another son as my uncle visited them >> when >> he was stationed in Ausralia during WW11., >> while serving as an American soldier. >> Would there be newspaper articles on the above deaths and if so how >> could I obtain them? I would be interested in contacting any >> living >> relatives as we have unanswered family questions. >> Would appreciate help from anyone familiar with the area. > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello. I am away from my desk until July 7th and will reply when I return Gary

Dear Louise, I too have cause to wonder about this family. I note that they almost certainly changed the surname to MARTIN. This seems to be the case with Hannah Martin who married a Philip Solomon And had at least one daughter called WELcome. I cant't find any birth or anything fo Philip,save for the fact that he was married in the GS. Welcome was born in 1837 and became my ggm. I recall being told as a child that the name comes from the Potugues Name BEMVENIDA (or welcome in English) This was the name of Hannah's Mother who was married to Aaron Nunes Martines. I have not been able to work out much more as both families Solomon,Martin and Nelson were all in the habit of following custom and naming offspring after another family member. If you need any further info please do not hestate to ask. As for the home in Gravesend I have not seen this but would be interested in trying to work out this enigma Kind Regards, Peter Nelson,Sydney

Hi Annette, There are some very helpful people on the Queensland (QLD) list who might be able to do a lookup for you at the library in Brisbane. Lee > Thanks to the posting of cemetery records by AJHS I was able to find > the following on my Grandfather's cousin and family. > Maurice Wand died age 47 Hebrew name Chaim Aury son of Abraham Moshe > Wand buried Mt Gravatt in Brisbane, Queensland > His father Abraham [Arthur] Moshe Wand died age 81 Son of Uri? English > records show his father's name as Maurice > Abraham birth 16-8-1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland died 1974 Family lived > in Manchester and Salford, England > Records show > Maurice buried row 1 # 26 Sec. 4C > Bessie Wand row 1 #6 age 69 [ husband, son and daughter-in-law in > same stone #5] > Abraham Moshe Wand row 1 [son and daughter-in-law same stone # 6 > > I know Abraham Moshe Wand had another son as my uncle visited them when > he was stationed in Ausralia during WW11., > while serving as an American soldier. > Would there be newspaper articles on the above deaths and if so how > could I obtain them? I would be interested in contacting any living > relatives as we have unanswered family questions. > Would appreciate help from anyone familiar with the area.

>I wonder if this place was some kind of Jewish orphanage... as I cant think why there should be so many small children from different families living into his place. Does anyone have any answers.< Per Malcolm Brown's in depth study "The Jews of Gravesed before 1915" Transactions of the Jewish Historical Society of England Vol XXXV ".... private schools proliferated at the seaside...." And writing in particular about what attracted Jewish Parents to the Jewish boarding school at May's Place Gravesend he speakes of "....the medically attested soundness of the water, the curative properties of fresh air, the absence of any recorded epidemics in the immediate area....." So if not a school, perhaps a sanatorium for sick children? A very quick scan of this lengthy article has not revealed anything relevant to Dove Martin\Martines but perhaps a look thru local trade directories or newspapers might produce an advertisement? Angela Shire

Dear Listers, I have been trying to disentangle a mystery lady called Dove Martines, or Martin Nunes Martines. I have been working with the Bevis Marks records and there are three. The one I am researching is probably the daughter of David and Sarah Nunes Martines born in about 1798. who may have ended her days in the sephardi alms houses in Devonshire Street, E. However, I found another one in the 1841 Census at Star Street, in Milton Gravesend , Kent. With her she had various sisters, Hannah, Abbey, Sarah and Rebecca. All the Nunes Martines and Abendana families gave their children the same names! Dove was 30 in this census but living with her were various small children including Celia Abendana aged 9 ( probably my great grandmother Sarah Celia who married Michael Hart) and her sister Esther aged 5. I wonder if this place was some kind of Jewish orphanage... as I cant think why there should be so many small children from different families living into his place. Does anyone have any answers. with best wishes, Louise (London) researching NUNES MARTINES,RODRIGES RIBEIRO. ABENDANA, HART

Thanks to the posting of cemetery records by AJHS I was able to find the following on my Grandfather's cousin and family. Maurice Wand died age 47 Hebrew name Chaim Aury son of Abraham Moshe Wand buried Mt Gravatt in Brisbane, Queensland His father Abraham [Arthur] Moshe Wand died age 81 Son of Uri? English records show his father's name as Maurice Abraham birth 16-8-1894 in Edinburgh, Scotland died 1974 Family lived in Manchester and Salford, England Records show Maurice buried row 1 # 26 Sec. 4C Bessie Wand row 1 #6 age 69 [ husband, son and daughter-in-law in same stone #5] Abraham Moshe Wand row 1 [son and daughter-in-law same stone # 6 I know Abraham Moshe Wand had another son as my uncle visited them when he was stationed in Ausralia during WW11., while serving as an American soldier. Would there be newspaper articles on the above deaths and if so how could I obtain them? I would be interested in contacting any living relatives as we have unanswered family questions. Would appreciate help from anyone familiar with the area. Regards, Annette Young Westminster, CA granynet@earthlink.net

Hi Angie, Not sure. Ours were certainly from London by the names of Joseph ( don't know where he was born) and Gabriel ( London born ) and his son Joel, born in London and came to Australia in 1861 as a 15yo but whether by himself I don't know. Did not recognize any other names on the passenger list. Is he yours also ?? Regards, Ludij ( in hot, but not that hot, Queensland !!!) -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angie Elfassi Sent: Saturday, 21 June 2008 8:27 PM To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Birth certificate Fanny Eva SAMUEL/S Am having computer problems and so can only see my emails courtesy of friends ......... therefore am replying now. My brother-in-law is "Barnett" and they came from London  and previously Ukraine (if my memory serves me well). Any connection? Regards Angie very  very very hot Israel (39 deg)   Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds ----- Original Message ---- From: Ludij Peden <ludij@ludijpeden.com.au> To: british-jewry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:16:42 AM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Birth certificate Fanny Eva SAMUEL/S Hi Naomi, Just new to this. Did your Barnett name originate from Gabriel Barnett in the UK ? He was my husband's 2 times great grandfather and I'm trying to find out more. Have found his marriage to Phoebe Jacobs and his death in London, and various census info but am trying to find his birth and parents. Any suggestions ?? Are there any other Barnetts out there ??? Thanks, Ludij Peden Cairns, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:british-jewry-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merv & Naomi Barnett Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 4:44 PM To: British Jewry Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Birth certificate Fanny Eva SAMUEL/S Hello Listers Perhaps someone can help me solve a long-standing question. I am trying to verify a time of arrival in England for an ancestor Heinrich (aka Henry) SAMUEL/S.  Heinrich was born around 1817 in Germany.  He married (date of marriage not known) a Chanah (aka Hanna/Hannah)SCHELINSKI , born 1834.  They emigrated to England but we don't know if it was before or after marriage.  Their eldest child, Fanny Eva SAMUEL/S was born in 1852.  I am trying to obtain a birth certificate for Fanny Eva.  They went on to have 4 more children Louis (1854), Joseph (1861), Leah (1863) and Rachel (1867). We have all the information about the marriages etc of Fanny Eva and all her siblings but determining where and when Fanny Eva was born would be marvellous. Fanny Eva married Abraham Rose in the Hambro Synagogue in 1872 and we have the ketubah. Any suggestions?  I wondered if the book recently published by Harold Pollins might have this birth registered. Many thanks Naomi Barnett Melbourne, Australia Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

(duly snipped) wrong time frame - "my" Barnetts only come to London around 1890ish Regards Angie extremely hot Israel Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds --- On Sun, 6/22/08, Ludij Peden <ludij@ludijpeden.com.au> wrote: >born > in London and came to Australia in 1861 as a 15yo but > whether by himself I > don't know.

Some people make such pathetic excuses :-) Send me a bit of sun and I'll forgive you! Sherry (in wet and miserable 10C Salford, LAN) On 21/06/2008, Angie Elfassi <aelfassi51@yahoo.com> wrote: > > ADMIN > Please forgive me - on my previous email I completely forgot to snip - it's > probably because of the heat ........... >

John Marsden webmaster) has just posted to another list, regarding updates to http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ amongst the HUGE update are the following which may be of interest to list members: Marriages for: Manchester, Withington Synagogue (1949-1951); Manchester, Great Synagogue (1940-1950); Manchester, Park Place Synagogue (Jackson's Row from 1941) (1941-1948); Manchester, Central Synagogue (1949-1956); Manchester, Adath Israel Synagogue (1942-1956); Manchester, Warsaw Synagogue (1947-1958); Manchester, South Broughton Synagogue (1938-1942); Manchester, Beth Jacob Synagogue (1925-1950); Manchester, Kahal Chassidim Synagogue (1927-1955); Manchester, Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue (1937-1953) Enjoy! Best wishes, Sherry (Salford, LAN)