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    1. [BRITISH-JEWRY] Commercial Directory of the Jews of Great Britain 1894
    2. Jill Hyams
    3. The Commercial Directory of the Jews of Great Britain 1894, available online, was mentioned on another list and can be viewed at : http://www.archive.org/details/commercialdirect00harfiala The directory lists names of individuals by town/city and gives an occupation and sometimes an address. It also includes lists of various Jewish societies/organisations and their key officers. There are also some other useful British books/directories on the same website (under the American Libraries link) including: The Municipal Year Book and Public Utilities Directory, 1911, which gives names of council members and chief council officials: http://www.archive.org/details/municipalyearb1911londuoft The County Companion, Diary, Statistical Chronicle, and Magisterial and Official Directory, 1882, gives names of magistrates, etc: http://www.archive.org/details/countycompanio1882londuoft Robson's London Directory, 1842: http://www.archive.org/details/robsonslondondir00robsrich The Leeds Directory for the year 1798 http://www.archive.org/details/leedsdirectoryfo00leeduoft A Handbook of London Bankers, 1670-1890 http://www.archive.org/details/handbookoflondon00pricuoft The down-side is that some of the book files are extremely large and very slow to download even with a powerful computer, and despite being available in several formats. For instance the PDF of the Municipal Year Book is 88 MB and the Robson's is a ridiculous 296 MB!! Some can be accessed via DJVU (for which you need to download the reader), and there is also a Flip Book option which is quicker but the text is quite small to read. I'd suggest you avoid the TXT option altogether (it crashed my computer). If anyone has problems accessing the directories, I'm happy to do name searches of the 1894 Jews of Great Britain directory ONLY (I don't have the time to check any other directories) so pls contact me off list. Jill Staines, Middlesex

    06/28/2008 04:37:37
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. Stan Rose
    3. John The original book was published by The Caxton Publishing Company Ltd. in 1922. Edited by Rev. Michael Adler.D.D.S.,S.C.F., B.A., and organised by Max R.G.Freeman. Just 3000 were printed - I have a numbered copy, signed by the Joint Managing Director of Caxtons. The Alphabetical Index of Nominal Rolls lists 106 separate regiments and then there is a further list of names that were received too late for classification. These also include the Royal Navy and Royal Air force (Royal Flying Corps) The Nominal Rolls (regimental lists) only give the soldier's number, rank and name, no other detail except for those who lost their life, indicated by an asterisk. Such persons are also listed separately, together with the name and address of the next-of-kin. There are also lists of persons who were awarded medals for gallantry, as Bryan Diamond has already said. The Rolls list the names in alphabetical order of the initial letter, but thereafter they are not, so that Barnett, where there is more than one, may be well mixed randomly within the 'B's'.. Furthermore,the book does not list EVERY Jew who served in the armed forces in WW1. Many of my own family are listed, but some are missing from the book. Your Jacob Barnett way have enlisted in a local regiment for local recruiting was often the responsibility of local personalities. But there was also much movement between regiments due to losses. There are very many Barnetts listed of whom there are 25 with the initial J. and three of those have an additional initial. These are the J.Barnetts who survived the war. The book does contain some double entries and a possible example is in the Training Reserve where there is No.38644. L/Cpl/ Barnett.J. 111th Btn. and 33644 L/Cpl Barnett.J. 111th. Btn. which seems to be an error in transcribing the soldier's army number. This shows how careful you have to be in researching. Quite frankly, I feel that you should do all you can within your own family first of all, to find out as much as you can about Jacob's army service (if any), before you spend many hours finding a copy and then researching. Once you have his number and regiment, then go to the UK National Archives in Kew (London) to find his medal roll details. (There should be two medals or possibly three). The following list should get you started: 234954 Pte.Barnett.J. R.F.A. (Royal Regiment of Artillery) 1280 L/Cpl. Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 457650 L/Cpl Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 19994 Cpl. Barnett J. 2nd. Bn. The Queens Royal Surrey Regt. 65665 Pte. Barnett.J. 9th.Bn. The King's (Liverpool) Rgt. 4820 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/5th Bn. The Suffolk Regt. 203942 Pte. Barnett.J. 1/5th Bn. The Hampshire Regt. 22313 Bglr. Barnett.J. 2nd.Bn.Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. 5987 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/9th Bn. The Highland Light Infantry. 9979 Rfm. Barnett.J. The Rifle Brigade. Rfm. Barnett.H.J. The Rifle Brigade 173798 Pte. Barnett..J.V. Machine Gun Corps. 12505 Pte. Barnett J.S. Training Reserve. 441299 Pte.Barnett.J. 833rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 120048 Pte. Barnett J. 14th Lab.Bn. Labour Corps. 498089 Barnett.J. Lab. Centre. Labour Corps. 177570 Pte. Barnett.J. 170th.Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 79330 Pte. Barnett.J. 133rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 54622. Pte. Barnett.J. 7th.Bn. London Regt. 4472 Pte. Barnett.J. The London Regt. 5602 Rfm. Barnett.J. 1/17th Bn. London Regt. SS/803 S/Sgt. Barnett.J. 14th Div.Train. Royal Army Service Corps 169148 Dvr. Barnett.J. Royal Armey Service Corps. These should keep you busy! Anyway, I hope this helps. They are all the Barnetts with the Initial J. Stan Rose. Bucks. UK. ********************8 At 16:34 28/06/2008, you wrote: >Thank you, Bryan. > >Let's see, as I understand it, this book has lists called "Nominal Rolls" >ey! That could be a clue as to the >regiment--right? Wouldn't he be associated with some Welsh regiment? > >Brian Neil Burg This message has been checked for viruses and passed OK by Norton 360 See my website www.stanrosefamily.com

    06/28/2008 01:37:31
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. Stan Rose
    3. John The original book was published by The Caxton Publishing Company Ltd. in 1922. Edited by Rev. Michael Adler.D.D.S.,S.C.F., B.A., and organised by Max R.G.Freeman. Just 3000 were printed - I have a numbered copy, signed by the Joint Managing Director of Caxtons. The Alphabetical Index of Nominal Rolls lists 106 separate regiments and then there is a further list of names that were received too late for classification. These also include the Royal Navy and Royal Air force (Royal Flying Corps) The Nominal Rolls (regimental lists) only give the soldier's number, rank and name, no other detail except for those who lost their life, indicated by an asterisk. Such persons are also listed separately, together with the name and address of the next-of-kin. There are also lists of persons who were awarded medals for gallantry, as Bryan Diamond has already said. The Rolls list the names in alphabetical order of the initial letter, but thereafter they are not, so that Barnett, where there is more than one, may be well mixed randomly within the 'B's'.. Furthermore,the book does not list EVERY Jew who served in the armed forces in WW1. Many of my own family are listed, but some are missing from the book. Your Jacob Barnett way have enlisted in a local regiment for local recruiting was often the responsibility of local personalities. But there was also much movement between regiments due to losses. There are very many Barnetts listed of whom there are 25 with the initial J. and three of those have an additional initial. These are the J.Barnetts who survived the war. The book does contain some double entries and a possible example is in the Training Reserve where there is No.38644. L/Cpl/ Barnett.J. 111th Btn. and 33644 L/Cpl Barnett.J. 111th. Btn. which seems to be an error in transcribing the soldier's army number. This shows how careful you have to be in researching. Quite frankly, I feel that you should do all you can within your own family first of all, to find out as much as you can about Jacob's army service (if any), before you spend many hours finding a copy and then researching. Once you have his number and regiment, then go to the UK National Archives in Kew (London) to find his medal roll details. (There should be two medals or possibly three). The following list should get you started: 234954 Pte.Barnett.J. R.F.A. (Royal Regiment of Artillery) 1280 L/Cpl. Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 457650 L/Cpl Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 19994 Cpl. Barnett J. 2nd. Bn. The Queens Royal Surrey Regt. 65665 Pte. Barnett.J. 9th.Bn. The King's (Liverpool) Rgt. 4820 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/5th Bn. The Suffolk Regt. 203942 Pte. Barnett.J. 1/5th Bn. The Hampshire Regt. 22313 Bglr. Barnett.J. 2nd.Bn.Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. 5987 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/9th Bn. The Highland Light Infantry. 9979 Rfm. Barnett.J. The Rifle Brigade. Rfm. Barnett.H.J. The Rifle Brigade 173798 Pte. Barnett..J.V. Machine Gun Corps. 12505 Pte. Barnett J.S. Training Reserve. 441299 Pte.Barnett.J. 833rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 120048 Pte. Barnett J. 14th Lab.Bn. Labour Corps. 498089 Barnett.J. Lab. Centre. Labour Corps. 177570 Pte. Barnett.J. 170th.Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 79330 Pte. Barnett.J. 133rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 54622. Pte. Barnett.J. 7th.Bn. London Regt. 4472 Pte. Barnett.J. The London Regt. 5602 Rfm. Barnett.J. 1/17th Bn. London Regt. SS/803 S/Sgt. Barnett.J. 14th Div.Train. Royal Army Service Corps 169148 Dvr. Barnett.J. Royal Armey Service Corps. These should keep you busy! Anyway, I hope this helps. They are all the Barnetts with the Initial J. Stan Rose. Bucks. UK. ********************8 At 16:34 28/06/2008, you wrote: >Thank you, Bryan. > >Let's see, as I understand it, this book has lists called "Nominal Rolls" >broken down for each Regiment, and those rolls ostensibly include >every Jewish >person who fought for England in World War I, whether they died or not. Is >that correct? > >For us, the individual in question--Jacob BARNETT--was definitely not >killed, as he died in 1970. Nor do we know of any injuries. We're not even >certain if he was in the War to End All Wars, but we had heard that >he was. If I >correctly understand what is being said in all these emails on this >topic, we >should be able to determine if he did fight in World War I by going through >this book, regiment by regiment, looking for any BARNETTs >and hoping there is >only one Jacob BARNETT. Is that a proper understanding of what this book >contains? > >Does it give additional information, such as age or citizenship? Our Jacob >would have been about 31 when the war broke out, and he had been in the UK >since sometime before 1907 and after 1901. From at least 1907 on, >he lived in >Swansea, South Wales. <==Hey! That could be a clue as to the >regiment--right? Wouldn't he be associated with some Welsh regiment? > >Brian Neil Burg >Fullerton, CA, USA > >In a message dated 6/28/2008 6:42:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >bryan@bjdiamond.plus.com writes: > ><I have a copy of the "Book of Honour", 1922. It has a list of those >killed, Officers then men,alphabetically, then those awarded medals, >then from p 189 the Nominal Rolls by each Regiment. >Finally at pp 611- 636 an index to the following Illustrations >[portraits], and the captions to these give the regiments, so this >index is my first resource and may likely lead to the regimental list. > ><The index includes the portrait of my father Claude Diamond at plate >303 and my uncle Wallter at Pl 28. > ><Bryan Diamond ><London> > > > > >**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >fuel-efficient used >cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) >Our website is at >www.british-jewry.org.uk >We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > >British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This message has been checked for viruses and passed OK by Norton 360 See my website www.stanrosefamily.com

    06/28/2008 12:46:40
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. WOW, STAN! Thank you very much! ;-) Brian In a message dated 6/28/2008 11:38:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stan@stanrosefamily.com writes: John The original book was published by The Caxton Publishing Company Ltd. in 1922. Edited by Rev. Michael Adler.D.D.S.,S.C.F., B.A., and organised by Max R.G.Freeman. Just 3000 were printed - I have a numbered copy, signed by the Joint Managing Director of Caxtons. The Alphabetical Index of Nominal Rolls lists 106 separate regiments and then there is a further list of names that were received too late for classification. These also include the Royal Navy and Royal Air force (Royal Flying Corps) The Nominal Rolls (regimental lists) only give the soldier's number, rank and name, no other detail except for those who lost their life, indicated by an asterisk. Such persons are also listed separately, together with the name and address of the next-of-kin. There are also lists of persons who were awarded medals for gallantry, as Bryan Diamond has already said. The Rolls list the names in alphabetical order of the initial letter, but thereafter they are not, so that Barnett, where there is more than one, may be well mixed randomly within the 'B's'.. Furthermore,the book does not list EVERY Jew who served in the armed forces in WW1. Many of my own family are listed, but some are missing from the book. Your Jacob Barnett way have enlisted in a local regiment for local recruiting was often the responsibility of local personalities. But there was also much movement between regiments due to losses. There are very many Barnetts listed of whom there are 25 with the initial J. and three of those have an additional initial. These are the J.Barnetts who survived the war. The book does contain some double entries and a possible example is in the Training Reserve where there is No.38644. L/Cpl/ Barnett.J. 111th Btn. and 33644 L/Cpl Barnett.J. 111th. Btn. which seems to be an error in transcribing the soldier's army number. This shows how careful you have to be in researching. Quite frankly, I feel that you should do all you can within your own family first of all, to find out as much as you can about Jacob's army service (if any), before you spend many hours finding a copy and then researching. Once you have his number and regiment, then go to the UK National Archives in Kew (London) to find his medal roll details. (There should be two medals or possibly three). The following list should get you started: 234954 Pte.Barnett.J. R.F.A. (Royal Regiment of Artillery) 1280 L/Cpl. Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 457650 L/Cpl Barnett.J. Royal Engineers 19994 Cpl. Barnett J. 2nd. Bn. The Queens Royal Surrey Regt. 65665 Pte. Barnett.J. 9th.Bn. The King's (Liverpool) Rgt. 4820 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/5th Bn. The Suffolk Regt. 203942 Pte. Barnett.J. 1/5th Bn. The Hampshire Regt. 22313 Bglr. Barnett.J. 2nd.Bn.Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. 5987 Pte. Barnett.J. 2/9th Bn. The Highland Light Infantry. 9979 Rfm. Barnett.J. The Rifle Brigade. Rfm. Barnett.H.J. The Rifle Brigade 173798 Pte. Barnett..J.V. Machine Gun Corps. 12505 Pte. Barnett J.S. Training Reserve. 441299 Pte.Barnett.J. 833rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 120048 Pte. Barnett J. 14th Lab.Bn. Labour Corps. 498089 Barnett.J. Lab. Centre. Labour Corps. 177570 Pte. Barnett.J. 170th.Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 79330 Pte. Barnett.J. 133rd. Lab.Coy. Labour Corps. 54622. Pte. Barnett.J. 7th.Bn. London Regt. 4472 Pte. Barnett.J. The London Regt. 5602 Rfm. Barnett.J. 1/17th Bn. London Regt. SS/803 S/Sgt. Barnett.J. 14th Div.Train. Royal Army Service Corps 169148 Dvr. Barnett.J. Royal Armey Service Corps. These should keep you busy! Anyway, I hope this helps. They are all the Barnetts with the Initial J. Stan Rose. Bucks. UK. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 12:22:22
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Location of business in Manchester 1891 directory
    2. Sherry in France
    3. Hi Naomi, Sorry for the delay in replying-boxes were in the way of my shelving unit! Briddon St was in the area of Manchester called Strangeways. Was that the question or was the question where was it in relation to Strangeways prison? If the latter I can't answer, BUT I can tell you that Briddon St ran between 7 Brewery St & 4 Southall St. Nightingale, Francis, Julia and Carnation Streets ran across Briddon St. Eventually, I might be able to find it on one of my maps, but at the moment the place is such a mess, and I don't know where the maps are. Tomorrow I should be packing the contents of the shelves, so if I come across the maps I will let you know. It could be that Johnson St., Cheetham and Briddon St., Strangeways were just minutes apart...but I don't know without a map! Sherry (Salford, LAN) On 25/06/2008, Merv & Naomi Barnett <barnett@netspace.net.au> wrote: > The listing is headed Strangeways and reads A. Cohen, 37 Briddon St, Hat > and cap manufacturer. What relation is Strangeways to Briddon Street?

    06/28/2008 11:33:14
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. John Gallon
    3. Dear Brian, Below is my Great Grandfather's details from the Nominal Roll. South Staffordshire Regiment Under the heading of NCOs and Men 48438 Pte. Goldwater, L., 1st Bn. As you notice, just initials. So looking for Jacob BARNETT is big task. You could of course try the Medal Roll of the National Archives, sadly it costs. Unless some kind lister who has ancestry.co.uk could check up for you. But there again their could be several soldiers of the same name. As an aside, several names below my Great Grandfather is that a soldier which has an asterisk between his initial & Battalion. This denotes he died during WW1. On what Regiment, just because he was living in Wales. Unfortunately you cannot assume that he joined a Welsh Regiment. My own Great Grandfather was born, Riga, then lived in Leeds & Glasgow. And was living in Newcastle upon Tyne married with 5 children. Yet he enlists firstly in to the North Staffordshire & later transfer to the South Staffordshires. On the price, second hand/used book stores would sell cheaper. But some Libraries/Archives might an original or even a reprint. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENFJBri@aol.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes > Thank you, Bryan. > > Let's see, as I understand it, this book has lists called "Nominal Rolls" > broken down for each Regiment, and those rolls ostensibly include every > Jewish > person who fought for England in World War I, whether they died or not. > Is > that correct? > > For us, the individual in question--Jacob BARNETT--was definitely not > killed, as he died in 1970. Nor do we know of any injuries. We're not > even > certain if he was in the War to End All Wars, but we had heard that he > was. If I > correctly understand what is being said in all these emails on this > topic, we > should be able to determine if he did fight in World War I by going > through > this book, regiment by regiment, looking for any BARNETTs and hoping > there is > only one Jacob BARNETT. Is that a proper understanding of what this book > contains? > > Does it give additional information, such as age or citizenship? Our > Jacob > would have been about 31 when the war broke out, and he had been in the > UK > since sometime before 1907 and after 1901. From at least 1907 on, he > lived in > Swansea, South Wales. <==Hey! That could be a clue as to the > regiment--right? Wouldn't he be associated with some Welsh regiment? > > Brian Neil Burg > Fullerton, CA, USA > > In a message dated 6/28/2008 6:42:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > bryan@bjdiamond.plus.com writes: > > <I have a copy of the "Book of Honour", 1922. It has a list of those > killed, Officers then men,alphabetically, then those awarded medals, > then from p 189 the Nominal Rolls by each Regiment. > Finally at pp 611- 636 an index to the following Illustrations > [portraits], and the captions to these give the regiments, so this > index is my first resource and may likely lead to the regimental list. > > <The index includes the portrait of my father Claude Diamond at plate > 303 and my uncle Wallter at Pl 28. > > <Bryan Diamond > <London> > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/28/2008 11:14:15
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. John Gallon
    3. Dear Brian, Sorry I wrote down what it said from the Internet. But since then I have found out you can buy a reprint of the original book for £74. Just google the Title and both volume one & the reprint can be seen. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENFJBri@aol.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour > Thanks, John! > > Another question arises: > > You wrote "...Volume One"--that implies at least another volume. What > were > the other volumes about? > > Brian > > P.S. Apologies to everyone on this list. Even though you figured out > what > I was trying to say, I just realized that the word after BARNETT in my > message was mistyped: it should have been "fought," not "found"! Oops! > ;-) > > In a message dated 6/28/2008 1:36:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > little.blobby2@btinternet.com writes: > <Was there an index of all names? Could it be posted on the Internet? > Some > <relatives thought my wife's grandfather, Jacob BARNETT, found for > England > in > <WWI, but we have no evidence of that. > > > Dear Brian, > > Sadly no index of all the service personnel. I knew my Great Grandfather > Regiment, so I knew where to look. If you do not know his Regiment then > it > is a matter of looking through the "Nominal Roll". Having said that, I > did > notice there was quite a few "BARNETT's" > > Sorry I never wrote down the Author. In fact I did not notice one. As for > being in the US, It does not mention who received a copy, only 3,000 were > printed & it gave the number of the one I was reading. > > I googled the information on the Author & it is Rev. Michael Alder & > printed > in 1922 by Caxton Publishing Ltd. I have also found out that it was > reprinted as "British Jewry Book of Honour 1914 - 1918 Volume One" by > Navel > & Military Press Ltd. > > John > Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/28/2008 10:24:35
    1. [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. Bryan Diamond
    3. John Gallon today wrote: <Sadly no index of all the service personnel.if you do not know his Regiment then it is a matter of looking through the "Nominal Roll".> I have a copy of the "Book of Honour", 1922. It has a list of those killed, Officers then men,alphabetically, then those awarded medals, then from p 189 the Nominal Rolls by each Regiment. Finally at pp 611- 636 an index to the following Illustrations [portraits], and the captions to these give the regiments, so this index is my first resource and may likely lead to the regimental list. The index includes the portrait of my father Claude Diamond at plate 303 and my uncle Wallter at Pl 28. Bryan Diamond London

    06/28/2008 08:41:47
    1. [BRITISH-JEWRY] LUE offer
    2. Sherry with Sky
    3. Thanks, Debbie, I will add your name, shortly...need a break from packing boxes....How can one accumulate such junk and how does one decide if anyone else will want to buy one's junk at a car boot sale? (answers on a postcard, in fifteen words or less) Sherry (shattered, in Salford, LAN) > > I have .... > Debbie Bozkurt

    06/28/2008 06:49:03
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. Thanks to John, Judy, Jackye, Bryan, Carol and anybody else who has weighed in on this topic. I'll investigate and see what I can find! Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 06:48:24
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. Quite possibly the Library of Congress has a copy. If they don't have a loan policy I might be able to look it up for you in the nezt few months. Carol freeman Potomac MD Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: ENFJBri@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:54:24 To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour John, Was there an index of all names? Could it be posted on the Internet? Some relatives thought my wife's grandfather, Jacob BARNETT, found for England in WWI, but we have no evidence of that. I wonder if that book is available in the U.S. Who wrote it? Who published it? Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA In a message dated 6/25/2008 2:19:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, little.blobby2@btinternet.com writes: Today I had the good fortune to look at book printed in 1922 entitled "British Jewry Book of Honour 1914 to 1918". Whilst at Tyne & Wear Archives, Newcastle upon Tyne. This book contains every Jewish serviceman (Army, Royal Navy & Royal Air Force) who fought in WW1. There are chapters on Bravery Awards, (for the higher awards their is précis on their heroic deed)War Dead (this includes their last known address) and service personnel (including the dead) by Force (Army Regiments, Navy Air Force) they were in. This chapter is a benefit to researchers as it mentions the Battalion they were in. Plus the Navy personnel has the name of the Ship they served in. There is a chapter on Jewish civilians who made valuable contribution to WW1 in their particular field, for example Nurses. The Final Chapter is photographs, mostly in memorium and they name indexed. It has a lot group photographs of personnel who survived the war. Although entitled "British Jewry" it also contains Jews from Canadian, Australian, New Zealand & South Africa. There was only 3,000 books printed. But it worth checking to see if you have relatives who fought in WW1. There is lot more information in this book than I have mentioned. I was lucky enough to able to locate details of my Great Grandfather. He was wounded & survived the war. But sadly his records were destroyed in 1941. But now I know which Battalion he was in. And this will allow me to find out a lot more on him. A book I definitely recommend to read especially the chapter on Jewish Chaplain Diary. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. British-Jewry-admin@rootsweb.com is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRITISH-JEWRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    06/28/2008 06:39:06
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. WOW! That's just under $150! A pretty hefty price. Hopefully, we can just borrow it from a library. But, at least we know it is obtainable! Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA In a message dated 6/28/2008 8:25:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, little.blobby2@btinternet.com writes: <Sorry I wrote down what it said from the Internet. But since then I have found out you can buy a reprint of the original book for £74.> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 05:41:55
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour - indexes
    2. Thank you, Bryan. Let's see, as I understand it, this book has lists called "Nominal Rolls" broken down for each Regiment, and those rolls ostensibly include every Jewish person who fought for England in World War I, whether they died or not. Is that correct? For us, the individual in question--Jacob BARNETT--was definitely not killed, as he died in 1970. Nor do we know of any injuries. We're not even certain if he was in the War to End All Wars, but we had heard that he was. If I correctly understand what is being said in all these emails on this topic, we should be able to determine if he did fight in World War I by going through this book, regiment by regiment, looking for any BARNETTs and hoping there is only one Jacob BARNETT. Is that a proper understanding of what this book contains? Does it give additional information, such as age or citizenship? Our Jacob would have been about 31 when the war broke out, and he had been in the UK since sometime before 1907 and after 1901. From at least 1907 on, he lived in Swansea, South Wales. <==Hey! That could be a clue as to the regiment--right? Wouldn't he be associated with some Welsh regiment? Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA In a message dated 6/28/2008 6:42:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bryan@bjdiamond.plus.com writes: <I have a copy of the "Book of Honour", 1922. It has a list of those killed, Officers then men,alphabetically, then those awarded medals, then from p 189 the Nominal Rolls by each Regiment. Finally at pp 611- 636 an index to the following Illustrations [portraits], and the captions to these give the regiments, so this index is my first resource and may likely lead to the regimental list. <The index includes the portrait of my father Claude Diamond at plate 303 and my uncle Wallter at Pl 28. <Bryan Diamond <London> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 05:34:18
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] FOUND: the non-Jewish MITCHELLs of Boston
    2. Ann Macey
    3. Huzzah!! I love it when a wall comes tumbling down Ann in cloudy Newport Gwent

    06/28/2008 05:29:44
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. Thanks, John! Another question arises: You wrote "...Volume One"--that implies at least another volume. What were the other volumes about? Brian P.S. Apologies to everyone on this list. Even though you figured out what I was trying to say, I just realized that the word after BARNETT in my message was mistyped: it should have been "fought," not "found"! Oops! ;-) In a message dated 6/28/2008 1:36:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, little.blobby2@btinternet.com writes: <Was there an index of all names? Could it be posted on the Internet? Some <relatives thought my wife's grandfather, Jacob BARNETT, found for England in <WWI, but we have no evidence of that. Dear Brian, Sadly no index of all the service personnel. I knew my Great Grandfather Regiment, so I knew where to look. If you do not know his Regiment then it is a matter of looking through the "Nominal Roll". Having said that, I did notice there was quite a few "BARNETT's" Sorry I never wrote down the Author. In fact I did not notice one. As for being in the US, It does not mention who received a copy, only 3,000 were printed & it gave the number of the one I was reading. I googled the information on the Author & it is Rev. Michael Alder & printed in 1922 by Caxton Publishing Ltd. I have also found out that it was reprinted as "British Jewry Book of Honour 1914 - 1918 Volume One" by Navel & Military Press Ltd. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

    06/28/2008 05:18:48
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] ADMIN website and B-J News
    2. Debbie Bozkurt
    3. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Jewish Admin <Jewish@slanda.fsnet.co.uk> wrote: > Good morning (I am properly awake now). > > I have just updated the Look Up Exchange. If you have something you > can do for our community, let me know and I'll add it. > http://www.british-jewry.org.uk/New%20Member%20Area/Look%20Up%20Exchange/look_up_exchange.htm Shelly I have Harold and Miriam Lewin Marriage Records of the Great synagogue, 1791 - 1885 The Jews in Victoria in the Nineteenth Century by Lazarus Morris Goldman The Western Synagogue through two centuries (1761-1961) by Arthur Barnett St Botoloph Aldgate City of London Settlement Examinations Debbie Bozkurt

    06/28/2008 03:52:24
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. John Gallon
    3. <Was there an index of all names? Could it be posted on the Internet? Some <relatives thought my wife's grandfather, Jacob BARNETT, found for England in <WWI, but we have no evidence of that. <I wonder if that book is available in the U.S. Who wrote it? Who published it? Dear Brian, Sadly no index of all the service personnel. I knew my Great Grandfather Regiment, so I knew where to look. If you do not know his Regiment then it is a matter of looking through the "Nominal Roll". Having said that, I did notice there was quite a few "BARNETT's" Sorry I never wrote down the Author. In fact I did not notice one. As for being in the US, It does not mention who received a copy, only 3,000 were printed & it gave the number of the one I was reading. I googled the information on the Author & it is Rev. Michael Alder & printed in 1922 by Caxton Publishing Ltd. I have also found out that it was reprinted as "British Jewry Book of Honour 1914 - 1918 Volume One" by Navel & Military Press Ltd. John Walker, Newcastle upon Tyne little.blobby2@btinternet.com

    06/28/2008 03:35:40
    1. [BRITISH-JEWRY] GOLDSMID-HART-FREEDMAN-FRANKS LINES
    2. phillip KIRBY
    3. Dear Listers I have been fortunate in making very recent contact with new distant cousins in Australia via my GOLDSMID/HART/CRAWCOUR lines. The families are descended from Joseph Goldsmid ( father Michael) m Celia Jacobs and their son Albert Aaron Goldsmid who married Phoebe Hart ( daughter of Aaron Hart and Ann Rebecca Crawcour). Albert and Phoebe settled in Australia and their son Lionel b 1880-d 1933 married Esther FRANKS. This line connects through marriage to MORRIS and FREEDMAN all settled in Australia. The Freedman line is originally from Poland. The other children of Albert and Phoebe include: Joseph Goldsmid m Martha EVANS; Percy H Goldsmid m Esther R V Hart his first cousin and on her death he married Ethel ORCHARD; Rebecca Goldsmid married Joseph H SALMON ( son Horace). These families are also all settled in Australia. On a separate note Catherine Hart ( known as Kate daughter of John Hart and Elizabeth Jacobs my 3x great grandparents) married first Abraham Crawcour and on his death Lionel Campbell Goldsmid ( no children from either marriage). If any listers have connections to any of these families I would welcome contact. Dr Phillip Kirby Norfolk England Researching: MYERS/HART/CRAWCOUR/JACOBS with links to COURLANDER/WULFSON/PHILLIPS/SALAMAN amongst numerous others

    06/28/2008 03:35:30
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. Jackye Sullins
    3. Judy is right AND another suggestion is google books. Some books are digitized and you can actually download them for free to your computer. Jackye Sullins > If you go to the commercial website for used books you will see thirty > entries starting at under $50 with a two volume set starting at $75 > > Judy Wolkovitch > Los Angeles

    06/28/2008 02:55:04
    1. Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour
    2. Judith Wolkovitch
    3. If you go to the commercial website for used books you will see thirty entries starting at under $50 with a two volume set starting at $75 Judy Wolkovitch Los Angeles ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENFJBri@aol.com> To: <british-jewry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] British Jewry Book of Honour WOW! That's just under $150! A pretty hefty price. Hopefully, we can just borrow it from a library. But, at least we know it is obtainable! Brian Neil Burg Fullerton, CA, USA

    06/28/2008 02:49:48