Hi all I also have a Rose or Rosa KOLSKY born in Russian Poland in 1889 and married in 1911 in London - living in Soho (9 Batemans Buildings) in the 1911 census (now a PRZYBYSZ/BEACH) with brother/sisterin-law Solomon and Regina WEIS. Any connection? Best Richard BeachSW Herts > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 11:07:28 +1000 > Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] KOLSKI > > Hello Miriam > > A Jacob/Jack KOLSKY of Finsbury Park passed away in 1960 as > per the London Gazette, 10th June, 1960 edition. > > You may have this info already. Mosiek KOLSKI also > known as M COLE naturalised as per the London Gazette, 1932. > Address was 27 Jeymer Ave,Willesden, he was from > Russia and a Tailor. There was also another KOLSKY family > who naturalised in 1929, Barnett/Berek/Lejb Beer and > daughter Rachel of 51 Cazenove Rd, Stoke Newington. > Perhaps they're connected to Jack. > http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London > > <Jack KOLSKI, who married Elsie MICHAELS in Cardiff in June 1922 > Miriam Margolyes, Clapham, London> > > Naomi Ogin > Brisbane > > > > > > > > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > [email protected] is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi again Linda Do you know more about the HARRIS side. I have this naturalisation info for Benjamin/Harris HARRIS: Benjamin HARRIS 32 Bridge Street Leeds, Yorks born at Sackie in the province of Suwalski, Russia,13th of January 1847 at the age of 39 is a Tinner. Married has 7 children living with him - Sarah 19, Barnett 17, Betsy 15, Leah 10, Jane 8, Lilly 4 and Rachel 18 months. Place of Business 32 Bridge St. Lived August 1881 at 13 Gower Str. Leeds, 1882-83, 21 St. Johns Court, Leeds. Lived at 32 Bridge for 3 yrs.7 months. Edwin GRANT signs for him, a series of people vouch for him B. WALKER 4 Hope St, Leeds, George BUCKLEY 74 Templar St, Leeds, Jeremiah BUCKLEY 5 St. Agnes Rd, Leeds Mr. DUCKWORTH, Enfield Terrace, Roundhay Rd, Leeds. Herman LANDA, 5 Templar St. was his Agent. Residence in UK shown from August 1881. Benjamin Harris has been in business as a Tinsmith and resided in Leeds for the last six years. His referees are all respectable men and their signatures are genuine. Harris resides at 23 Bridge Street and 32 Bridge as stated in the memorial. Alien Benjamin Harris: Favourable Report Known marriages for the children are Sarah Rebecca m Eli Mendel FINN Martha Fanny m Lewis MYERS (SECCUNDY) HCohen Leah Florrie m Hyman BARNETT Jane Julia m Hyman Harris BLAUGRUND Lily m Edward STEARN Rachel m Solomon Isaac FRIEDMAN I have info going forward. <My grandmother, Annie HARRIS WOLFE, Linda Wolfe Kelly,California> Naomi Ogin Brisbane
Hello Linda and Sherry I have Clara DAVIDOVITCH nee SCHAPERE, passed away 1927 in the East End of London and she is buried in Edmonton. Her father's name was Schraiga Faibusch and her Hebrew name is Glike. Bit of a discrepancy with birth years..1852 and 1842. Not sure if this would tie in to your or Sherry. I do have a photo and I think it includes her. <This is for Sherry Landa and others interested in SAPERIA in Leeds. Linda Wolfe Kelley, California> Naomi Ogin Brisbane
Hello Ann If you find they also used ABEL, I have a Mary ABEL married to Mark SCHLOM, reg Stepney, Dec 1928. Mark was born 1906, Whitechapel and I believe that Mary was born 1908, St Geo.East. I've more info going forward. <search for the Morris & Abelson families. Ann Linder, Florida> Naomi Ogin Brisbane
Hello Miriam A Jacob/Jack KOLSKY of Finsbury Park passed away in 1960 as per the London Gazette, 10th June, 1960 edition. You may have this info already. Mosiek KOLSKI also known as M COLE naturalised as per the London Gazette, 1932. Address was 27 Jeymer Ave,Willesden, he was from Russia and a Tailor. There was also another KOLSKY family who naturalised in 1929, Barnett/Berek/Lejb Beer and daughter Rachel of 51 Cazenove Rd, Stoke Newington. Perhaps they're connected to Jack. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London <Jack KOLSKI, who married Elsie MICHAELS in Cardiff in June 1922 Miriam Margolyes, Clapham, London> Naomi Ogin Brisbane
Hello Richard Do you by any chance have a Phillip MARKS. In 1927 he was a street trader of 30 Bacon Street, Bethnal Green. He was a first cousin of Hannah/Annie ORGINE nee LAZARUS. She was born 1886 in Hanbury Street, Aldgate and married Jack/Jacob ORGIN/OGIN in 1913. He was the son of Israel/Velvel H'Cohen. Her parents were Mark LAZARUS and Sarah nee FELDMAN. <MARKS?(E. End from late 18C) Richard Beach> Thanks Naomi Ogin Brisbane The referee's to Hannah's application for naturalisation (she had married a Russian and had to re-apply to be British) were Angel SOLOMON, a wood carver of 29 Union Street, Hackney Road, E2 and Phillip MARKS, a street trader of 30 Bacon Street, Bethnal Green. Phillip was stated as being Hannah's first cousin and had known her for 25 years
Hi Listers Thanks to Cherry, Admin and Myra (off-list) the family have been found in Edinburgh - thanks for such speedy and helpful work. I love this list. Robyn >Newcastle is closer to Scotland than London - have you tried the >Scottish Census? > >Just a thought. > >Cherry >in Surrey
Linda and Sherry, The marriage of Julius LIVINGSTONE and Fanny SAPERIA is in the GRO index and on FreeBMD, Mar Qtr 1901, Leeds vol 9b page 686. HTH Judy London, UK On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Linda Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is the Yorkshire bmb listing for the marriage; it's the only > document that lists this marriage; neither the Rootsweb page nor > JewishGen's supplemental index for Leeds has it: SAPERIA Fanny > LIVINGSTONE Julius Old Central Hebrew Synagogue, Victoria Road, > Leeds, 1901. > SYN4/B/60
Linda, Thanks for this. > > This is for Sherry Landa and others interested in SAPERIA in Leeds: > Here is the Yorkshire bmb listing for the marriage; it's the only > document that lists this marriage; neither the Rootsweb page nor > JewishGen's supplemental index for Leeds has it: SAPERIA Fanny > LIVINGSTONE Julius Old Central Hebrew Synagogue, Victoria Road, > Leeds, 1901. > SYN4/B/60 It would be, as far as I know the JGSGB don't have the Old Hebrew Shul records any more that I do. If it gor missed off the GRO (or is indexed differently) then Local BMD would be the only copy/index note. > > There was another Fanny SAPERIA who was b. in 1886 in "Russia," > possibly Mariampol and lived in Leeds. They must have been related, > UNLESS THIS WAS THE SAME FANNY SAPERIA, and there is an error in one > of the sources. This is where the problem lies. I have two Fannies in the database and I am not sure which is the one who married Julius (neither was born at quite the right time for yours). I have one born c1881 Mariampol, d/o Myer who was at 37 Cannon St in 1891. Then I have another born c1887 (so would have been 13 in 1901) Poland d/o Jacob. at 41 Gower St in 1901. Myer was 20 years older than Jacob according the the censuses so it seems unlikely it is the same family. Myer also had Abraham Isaac, Sarah & Betsey and Jacob also had Minnie, Isaac, Joseph, Ada, Morris and Hyman. Myer was dead by 1897 when Abraham Isaac married (his address was 27 Cannon St so that might be a mistake and they both should be 27 or 37). Jacob is not listed as deceased when Morris marries in 1920 or when Hyman married in 1925 and they are both living at 51 Stamford St. This is not a family/pair of families I had been chasing in 1911 (yet). I have just looked at Jacob is there with Fanny unmarried which implies that the 1901 data is right and she is not your Fanny. I can't (at the moment) find Myer's family. His widow may have died. One of his daughters MIGHT be boarding with another family-the son and the other daughter aren't visible at the moment. So, we either need the marriage certificate or something else (death/headstone) to confirm the father's name and then we can link people up better. Let me know if you have Fanny's father's name. Best Sherry (Viersat, France)
Cherry might be right-unfortunately, I can't see beyond the index because I have no credits left. ST GEORGE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/01 151/01 010 ADELSON FLORA F 43 ADELSON GENESA F 9 ADELSON GERTRUDE F 13 ADELSON ISRAEL M 11 ADELSON JOSHUA ADELSON LAURENCE M 43 ADELSON MYER M 5 On 07/08/2010, Cherry Cane <[email protected]> wrote: > Newcastle is closer to Scotland than London - have you tried the > Scottish Census?
Hi Listers Before I decide this family was on a visit to Palestine or Poland, or somewhere else I'd like to ask for fresh eyes to take a look in the 1901 census. In 1891 they were at 95 Newgate St, Newcastle on Tyne. In 1906 they sailed from London for Fremantle, Australia - I cannot find them in the 1901 census. Father: Lazarus Israel ADELSTONE (and all other spellings) - born Poland 1861 Mother: Flora (nee Marks) b. London 1857 Children: Joshua b.1883; George F. b.1885; Gertrude b.1887; Israel b.1889; Ganesta (Nessie) b.1891; Myer b.1895 - all born in Newcastle on Tyne I'd be really grateful if anyone can see something I missed. I have tried soundex, wildcards, and a couple of different sites to no avail. They may of course have not been in the UK. Many thanks Robyn Sydney, AUS
Hi Robyn Newcastle is closer to Scotland than London - have you tried the Scottish Census? Just a thought. Cherry in Surrey On 7 Aug 2010, at 09:07, Robyn Dryen wrote: > They may of course have not been in the UK. > > Many thanks > > Robyn > Sydney, AUS >
Robyn, was the father, Lazarus Israel ADELSTONE, with the rest of the family on their voyage to Australia in 1906? There was a death for Lazarus Adelstone, b. about 1862, d. Dec. 1901 in Birmingham, Warwickshire. James Adelstone lived in Sydney from 1890 on. An S. Adelstone lived in Roundhay, Lancashire, Eng. in 1932. [probably Samuel. His father was Henry.] Alfred, Arthur and Claude Adelstone were in the British Army in WWI and received medals. Harold enlisted in the British Army in 1915 and was wounded on his scalp in 1916. He deserted in 1917. He lived at 35 Stanford St., Leeds, West Yorkshire when he enlisted. The son, Israel Adelstone was b. in 1889 in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, Tyne and Wear, England. In the 1891 Census he was listed as one year old. A niece of Lazarus, Rebecca Bluestone, age 7, lived with them. Israel Arthur Adelson married __ in South Australia, between 1917-1920. Israel Adelstone, b. 1884, sailed 12 March 1923, with Mrs. Edith Adelstone, b. 1888, NBS [Naturalised British Subjects?], from Capetown to London, c/o Mr. P. Adelson, Royal Dental Hospital, London W. Israel was a Baker; Edith was a Housewife. They lived permanently in Transvaal. Israel sailed from Durban or Capetown, South Africa to Southampton, Eng. again 24 Mar. 1939. He was to stay at the Cumberland Hotel, London. He was 56, a Baker from South Africa. An Israel Adelstein married Annie Silverstein in London, Middlesex, Mar. 1912. Might be a cousin. Linda Wolfe Kelley California
Dear Genners, I am searching this family, most particularly Jack KOLSKI, who married Elsie MICHAELS in Cardiff in June 1922. They had a son, Ellis KOLSKI, who was born July 1922; Elsie died in childbirth, aged 28. Jack married again; 1924, Mile End, Pauline TEMPLE, who was probably not Jewish. They had a daughter, Jeanette, born Mar 1938 in Stepney. Id love to trace Ellis & Jeanette. The well-known paid site mentions that Jack might have died in 1967, but I couldnt see that on another paid site. There is a Jack KOLSKI in the Phone Books up till 1940. I was told that he might have changed his name to COLE. my trail has gone cold. Can anyone warm me up? Miriam Margolyes Clapham, London [email protected] __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5348 (20100806) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
This is for Sherry Landa and others interested in SAPERIA in Leeds: My grandmother, Annie HARRIS WOLFE, and Fanny SAPERIA LEVINSON were lifeling friends; both were born in Leeds, and both married when they were about 16 in Leeds. Annie married Harry WOLFE. Fanny married Julius LEVINSON, AKA LIVINGSTONE. Julius was b. in Russia, but Fanny was b. in Leeds, in 1883 or 1884, although I can't find a birth record for her. [Her 1973 death record says she was b. in 1883.] They had their first son, Nathan, in Leeds in 1905, came to the US in 1908 [per the Census] and had Meyer and Sidney. Here is the Yorkshire bmb listing for the marriage; it's the only document that lists this marriage; neither the Rootsweb page nor JewishGen's supplemental index for Leeds has it: SAPERIA Fanny LIVINGSTONE Julius Old Central Hebrew Synagogue, Victoria Road, Leeds, 1901. SYN4/B/60 Julius' sister, Ettie, married David DONBERG in Leeds. The Wolfes, Levinsons and Donbergs were extremely close. They all moved to Chicago and lived near each other. I emailed the SAPERIA website contact; he had not heard of this Fanny. There was another Fanny SAPERIA who was b. in 1886 in "Russia," possibly Mariampol and lived in Leeds. They must have been related, UNLESS THIS WAS THE SAME FANNY SAPERIA, and there is an error in one of the sources. I remember Annie, Fanny and Ettie. They all kept their Leeds accents. Fanny always wore her hair in two braids, crossed over the crown of her head. Linda Wolfe Kelley California
Hi Naomi, thank you for your suggestion about the stone and the informant. Edmonton sounds reasonable. I didn't find him in the 1911 census, but with the only son I have a name for dead in 1906 it's not so easy! I'll keep on looking, and really appreciate your help. Naomi Edinburgh -----Original Message----- From: naomi ogin <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 5:52 Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Rosenberg's from 'Rezito' Hi Naomi There is a David Rosenberg whose death was reg March quarter, 1932, Edmonton, aged 66. http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl Could this be your David? If so, his stone (if standing) may provide more clues as would the informant. Have you found him in the 1911 UK Census? <David Rosenberg had other children. Naomi Hamilton, Edinburgh> Naomi Ogin Brisbane Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. [email protected] is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Ann, Linda and Angie for all your suggestions about the identification of Rezito. I understand I'm not meant to ask such questions on this list, so I do apologise. However, I will follow up all your ideas. Many thanks, Naomi -----Original Message----- From: Angie Elfassi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 4:50 Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Rosenberg's from 'Rezito'? Hi Naomi, My ancestors came to Leeds c. 1905 from Rezekne also known as: Rēzekne [Latv], Rositten [Ger], Rezhitsa [Rus], Rezhitse [Yid], Rzeżyca [Pol], Rėzeknė [Lith], Räisaku [Est], Režica, Ryezhitsa It is not too far from the Latvian Lithuanian present border. Rēzekne, Latvia: 56°30' N, 27°19' E If you go to JewishGen (am I allowed to mention that....) and type in REZEKNE in town searches, you will get a good source of information. Hope this helps Regards Angie Israel Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, August 1, 2010 10:48:10 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Rosenberg's from 'Rezito'? Nathan's father, also Nathan, was also born in Rezito, and died in 1906 before my grandfather was born at the start of 1907. This has created a hiatus of knowledge. My grandfather thought his grandparents came from Lithuania. However, I can't find a record of any town called Rezito in Lithuania or in that border area. Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. [email protected] is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In my search for the Morris & Abelson families I located births of several children--most of whom I have verified as correct. 3 birth records however are puzzling--the surnames on the records correspond. coincidence? 2 cousins in the Morris & Abelson family do not recognize these births. short of getting the birth certificates, is there another way that I can't think of to determine who the parents are? (1) Patricia E. Morris Mother' maiden surname: Abelson Date of Reg: Oct Nov Dec 1933 Reg District: Hendon Reg County: Hertfordshire, Oxforshire, Buckinghamshire, Middlesex Vol #: 3a Page #: 608 (2) Geoffrey M. Morris Mother' maiden surname: Abelson Date of Reg: Jul Aug Sep 1942 Reg District: Hampstead Reg County: Greater London Vol #: 1a Page #: 589 (3) Morris Kathryn V. mother's maiden: Abelson Hampstead 1a 759 -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA
FYI Sherry Landa (Viersat, France) Judith Stephenson, Searchroom Services Manager, Suffolk Record Office Adult and Community Services, Suffolk County Council has issued the following announcement: "Please note that we are having some essential building work done on the archive strongroom at the Bury St Edmunds Record Office. This means that we have to remove almost half of the boxes and safely store them elsewhere in the building. Unfortunately this therefore means that we will be unable to produce original archives from Wednesday 18 August until Monday 13 September. The microform room will remain open as usual and we will continue to provide access to local studies material in the searchroom."
Hi listers, Sorry for the short notice - I'm planning a visit to Rainham Federation Cemetery (Upminster Road) this Sunday morning with camera and notebook. If anyone has anyone there and needs info then feel free to ask and I'll do my best. Best regards Richard Beach.Researching: BEACH/PRZYBYSZ/PSHIBISH (London from 1900), PERLOFF (London from 1900), FRANKLIN (E. End from late 18C), MARKS (E. End from late 18C) and plenty of others...