Although there is no known Bernard BARNETT in my family tree database, I am especially interested in the BARNETT surname from Wales, especially if the family is known to have originated in Poland (then Russia). One mystery in my wife's family was why the BARNETT surname was chosen, as both my wife's paternal grandfather and her paternal grandmother changed their surnames to BARNETT after immigration to the UK (initially to London and shortly thereafter to Swansea, Wales) but before they married! The original surnames were CHAJKIELSON and TYLZANSKA, respectively, and they separately immigrated to the UK from Suwalki, Poland (then Russia), circa 1901. Naturally, we are curious about the reference from Alan Louis regarding a BARNETT family from Wales. We would love to hear from anybody connected to that family or any other BARNETT family from Wales--especially if there are known Polish roots. Collateral lines in my wife's family include SANDLER and MYERS. Brian Neil Burg [On a very pleasant day in] Fullerton, CA, USA In a message dated 8/14/2010 7:54:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: On a website about Leicester, Alan Young writes about nicknames: Bernard Barnett was known as "Taffy". The family came from Wales. http://www.leicesterjewishvoices.co.uk/bulletin-board.html I have no idea if this is the correct Bernard Barnett! Barbara Zimmer Virginia

Hello all, Has anyone had dealings with Beth Din recently? I am wondering if they can be contacted on line,what info they need and how much do they charge to obtain copies. Last I heard you had to send money by Bank Cheque as they did not accept Credit Cards. Peter Nelson Sydney

Correction -- it was Alan Louis who wrote about nicknames! Barbara Zimmer

On a website about Leicester, Alan Young writes about nicknames: Bernard Barnett was known as "Taffy". The family came from Wales. http://www.leicesterjewishvoices.co.uk/bulletin-board.html I have no idea if this is the correct Bernard Barnett! Barbara Zimmer Virginia On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Ann Linder <[email protected]> wrote: > Ada (aka Alta) & Bernard Barnett were married in 1938 when she was 21 > and Bernard was 24...Bernard went into the military and went overseas; I > believe he died or > was very seriously injured... >

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Ann Linder <[email protected]> wrote: > Ada (aka Alta) & Bernard Barnett were married in 1938 when she was 21 > and Bernard was 24...Bernard went into the military and went overseas; I > believe he died or > was very seriously injured... > Ancestry only has WWI British medal rolls. Maybe the UK National Archives would be helpful for WWII? Linda Wolfe Kelley California

Dear Listers, if anyone is connected to Gluckel of Hameln could you contact me as she is on our family tree so some of her descendents came to live in England.. Best wishes, Louise husg€€w ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie Elfassi" <[email protected]> To: "British Jewry" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] BJ news > Hi, > > I have just read the first page/editorial, and I would like to recommend > the > reading of: > > Gluckel of Hameln > > excerpt from Wikipedia: > Glückel of Hameln (also spelled Gluckel or Glikl of Hamelin; also known as > Glikl > bas Judah Leib) (1646, Hamburg – September 19, 1724, Metz) was a Jewish > businesswoman and diarist, whose account of her life provides scholars > with an > intimate picture of Jewish life in Germany in the late-seventeenth-early > eighteenth century. Written in Yiddish, her diaries were originally > intended for > her descendants. The first part is actually a living will urging them to > live > ethical lives. " > > I have no private interest in this book except to say, it answers Sherry's > editorial. Well worth the read if you can obtain a copy. I read it in > English. > > Regards > Angie > > > Searching: > RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds > COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds > MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds > KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds > > > > > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > [email protected] is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3067 - Release Date: 08/12/10 18:34:00

Hi All, A stroke of good luck brought the information that an ISAACS family in Manchester in 1911 looks like the ISAACSON family I have been searching for. Is it possible for ISAACS and ISAACSON to be the same?   They were Sam and Annie ISAACS (who appear later in Liverpool as ISAACSON) with their family - May, Morris and Benett(?) plus a sister in law Edith DAGAL, which is too similar to the information I have on the ISAACSON mother Annie being a DARGEL or varient on that name.   Any help welcomed. Best wishes, Charles

Ada (aka Alta) & Bernard Barnett were married in 1938 when she was 21 and Bernard was 24 at New Synagogue, London. Her parents were Brucha and Nathan Kinsler. His father was David. Bernard was from Islington. Bernard went into the military and went overseas; I believe he died or was very seriously injured; she fell ill and was put into a home -- institutionalized. She may have died in 1992. Is it possible with so few facts to find out more about both of them? -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

Hi, I have just read the first page/editorial, and I would like to recommend the reading of: Gluckel of Hameln excerpt from Wikipedia: Glückel of Hameln (also spelled Gluckel or Glikl of Hamelin; also known as Glikl bas Judah Leib) (1646, Hamburg – September 19, 1724, Metz) was a Jewish businesswoman and diarist, whose account of her life provides scholars with an intimate picture of Jewish life in Germany in the late-seventeenth-early eighteenth century. Written in Yiddish, her diaries were originally intended for her descendants. The first part is actually a living will urging them to live ethical lives. " I have no private interest in this book except to say, it answers Sherry's editorial. Well worth the read if you can obtain a copy. I read it in English. Regards Angie Searching: RAYKH-ZELIGMAN/RICHMAN, Stakliskes, Lithuania/Leeds COHEN, Sakiai, Lithuania/Leeds MAGIDOWITZ, Jurbarkas, Lithuania/Leeds KASSIMOFF, Rezekne, Latvia/Leeds

Dear Genners, One of my many back-burner projects includes poking around the FINER family. There are two instances of them marrying into my KOENIGSBERG family. Abraham Finer married Lily Koenigsberg. She was my great grandfather's youngest sister. Davis (David) Finer married Rebecca Koenigsberg. She was the daughter of Myer, one of my great grandfather's brothers. To further add to the confusion, Hyman Finer's daughter Rachel married Jack the son of M.A. Finer. I <think> M in M.A. stands for Moses? I believe that Davis (later) David Finer and Myer Finer were also M.A.'s sons. There are other Finers too (C. Finer and Max Finer for example) and yes, Finers in Leeds (but let's not go there). I also have a dozen or so JC notices. Furthermore a unknown genner very recently posted a number of Finer marriage certificates and photos (!!) on the Photos and Maps section of a well-known subscription site, which was a wonderful find (well worth checking for all those of you with a sub to it). Certainly saved me a few quid there! Before I go lobbing any shekels in the direction of London, is there some kind soul who has a better handle on the Finer family and their inter-relatedness (presuming there is one) who can salvage my sanity? Sincerely -- Jeremy G Frankel ex Edgware, London, England Berkeley, California, USA EBIN: Russia, New York, USA FRANKEL: Poland, London, England GOLDRATH/GOLD: Praszka, Poland, London, England KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania, London, England, NYC, NY, USA LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland, London, England PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland, London, England, NYC, NY, USA

Hello Ann I've always found them to be extremely efficient and really helpful. Nice to deal with. Just recently they found my gggm! <emailed the Federation's Burial Society this afternoon.are they usually responsive? Ann Linder,Florida> <perhaps she is recorded under Bertha, Bessie, Rose etc. Naomi Ogin, Brisbane> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

The latest issue of the newsletter is now available on the website in both PDF and Word formats: http://www.british-jewry.org.uk/bjnews.html Enjoy! Jackye and Sherry

Hello Dallas Would be worth a look in http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ search all the categories. I'm looking for ISAAC's but they were living in England. <searching for Nathan Isaacs, father of Charles Isaacs Dallas Hinton, Vancouver, BC, Canada> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

In April 1911, living at 205 Oxford St, Mile End were Hannah and Morris BLECHER, Abraham, Minnie, David and Rebecky DAVIDSON, Mendel, Bessie, Adelaide and Judah DYWIEN and Aaron ROSSEN. http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx Not sure if ROSHKOW (sp) would equate to ROSSEN. I'm looking for an Abraham DAVIDOVITCH/DAVIDOFF. Wonder if that's him as DAVIDSON. <mother and grandmother Mrs ROSHKOW? (bit tricky to read) 205 Oxford St. Sherry (Viersat, France)> <he lists a step-son, Max Zembrowsky Steve Morgan Wilmington North Carolina USA> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Hello Ann Perhaps she is recorded under Bertha, Bessie, Rose etc. Also, have you emailed the Federation of Synagogues. <I saw a death record for Brucha KINCLER. Ann Linder, Florida> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

yup, I emailed the Federation's Burial Society this afternoon. are they usually responsive? On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, naomi ogin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Ann > > Perhaps she is recorded under Bertha, Bessie, Rose etc. > Also, have you emailed the Federation of > Synagogues. > > <I saw a death record for Brucha KINCLER. > Ann Linder, Florida> > > Naomi Ogin > Brisbane > > Our website is at > www.british-jewry.org.uk > We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. > > [email protected] is the address to use for help. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

Helen Kinsler married Alec Levy in 1936 in London. I find one possible child on freebmd, Shirley Levy born 1940. In my quest to connect with descendants of my ggAunt Brucha Kinsler, I cannot find Shirley Levy after her birth. -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

Dear Steve, Sadly, the English records give the mother's maiden name from the middle of 1911 and not before. I quickly checked for a marriage to Zembrowsky prior to 1910 but there were none recorded on the free BDM site. I agree with you that is is printed as Marka, rather than Marks. Regards, Miriam Pollak London > US Census he lists a step-son, Max Zembrowsky, who is stated as being > born in England. He was 9 years old as of the census which was > enumerated in January of 1920. > I went to FreeBMD and found a birth record in the 2nd quarter of 1910 > which was transcribed as Marka Zembrowsky, born Mile End. I read it > as Marks. Could someone take a look and see if they agree with me? > > Steve Morgan > Wilmington North Carolina USA >

OK ignore the last part of my previous message, Steve, as I have now found Max and his mother "Sophie" on ship for NY arriving 30 March 1911. I assume you can get to this record, because you got to the 1920 census, but if you can't: It says they were leaving their mother and grandmother Mrs ROSHKOW? (bit tricky to read) 205 Oxford St., London and going to their husband and father D ZEMBROSKY in New York. As Free BMD shows a marriage in June qtr 1908 Mile End of a Davis ZEMBROSKI and one of the possible brides is a Cipe ROSKIN, it seems that this is the right family. Not quite sure what the surname is. Obviously, you still really need the birth certificate to be sure. HTH Sherry (Viersat, France)

> I went to FreeBMD and found a birth record in the 2nd quarter of 1910 > which was transcribed as Marka Zembrowsky, born Mile End. I read it > as Marks. Could someone take a look and see if they agree with me? Yes, I read it as Marks as well. It seems logical that it is that and not Marka. > Is there any way to find out his parent's names, especially his > mother's maiden name, without writing to the GRO for a birth > certificate copy? No, you have to order a copy of the certificate, unless you can find some other source, like a newspaper announcement. If they were in England in 1911, you might find them on the census and then it should say how long the parents had been married and how many children they had-this might help find siblings of Max/Marks and a marriage of the parents-if they took place in UK-the marriage would obviously give you the mother's maiden name. Hope this helps Sherry (Viersat, France)