Hi Marianne, how can I contact you? Sarah

In a word-No. According to the National Archives site, GB only kept passenger lists for those people coming from outside Europe. Also according to the Archives no alien registration cards exist for the period you are talking about. However her local police station may have had an aliens register. Also if her husband was not yet naturalized when they married, look in the National Archives for a naturalization application since it would have to state when the wife entered the country. She might very well have come alone. It was not that unusual. Remember that a large part of those coming from Russia/Poland came through Germany and took the boat from either Hamburg or Bremen. Sometimes you can find them on emigration lists out of those ports. Bob Please consider the environment and do not print this e-mail unless there is a real need for a paper copy. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ann Linder Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Immigration to UK: Katie Morris correction to my earlier post I would like to know when Katie Morris nee Frydman came to England from Stopnice, Poland? is there a UK database for such a search equivalent to USA Ellis Island database? She was born in 1881, married in England 1899 at age 18. Her parents stayed in Poland, but I might guess she didn't travel alone. Her Hebrew/Polish name may have been Kajla. I have searched the jcr-uk database and did not find specific reference to this topic. -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA Our website is at www.british-jewry.org.uk We update regularly. Let us know if you have ideas to offer. [email protected] is the address to use for help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you foryour help. Dateline is as follows: Aaron Hart. son of BAruch Barnett Hart .( The Barnett appears in Aaron's will.) 1841 Census Goulston Street, E. London . Living with him is Catherine 25, Rachel 20, Sarah 20, Elizabeth 15, Michael 15, Julia 12 Moss 10. So , unless Moss had another mother, Esther must have died by 1831.and they might have married about 1815. However the girls seemed to get younger in every census and the dates are not so accurate. There were two older sons , Abraham and Phillip who went to live in Jamaica and died there. On the other hand there was s a daughter Amelia (Mendela daughter of Aharon) who married Ephraim Levy Green at the Great Synagogue, 2 Feb. 1836. The strange thing is that a Lipmann Levy aged 35, a glass cutter was living at the same address in 1841 census.In the 1851 census he was still there and also an Elizabeth Levy. They are down as sister in law and brother in law. I have often wondered if somehow Esther was a nee Levy. In 1861 census they are both living further up the road with Amelia and Ephraim and down as Aunt and Uncle. I have been stuck on this for some years and would be grateful for any help. Best wishes, Louise. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jewish Admin" <[email protected]> To: "alfred goldschmidt" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [BRITISH-JEWRY] Marriage Records : HART London Area > Louise, > What's the time-frame on these?

I have descendants of my gg-aunt Brucha KINSLER to 2010. One of them that I wrote to, Adrienne Glassman, appears to have moved to Bulgaria! I've written to Facebook profiles of MARZELL & HERSHMAN descendants but no one responds. Perhaps a postal letter will do the trick. And on the off-chance that a reader of this post may recognize a name, I am looking for: Sara MARZELL of Watford, Hertfordshire; she has a daughter Natasha & perhaps a son Simon Beverly HERSHMAN of London (husband Richard) If anyone knows them I would welcome being put in touch. Thanks a million. -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

In reply to Keira Lockyer's 15th August enquiry for an Emanuel family of London, the following references show some links with Australia. They come from my Sydney Morning Herald extracts. "This city" refers to Sydney, NSW, Australia. EMANUEL DEATH Mar. 31, 1855, p. 7 On the 26th of December last, at her residence, Sloane-street, Belgrave-square, London, aged 76, Mrs, Julia Rebecca Emanuel, the affectionate mother of the Messrs, A. and J. Emanuel, of this city. EMANUEL DEATH Oct. 27, 1856, p. 1 At his residence, Sloane-street, Belgrave-square, London, on the Ist of August, E, Emanuel, Esq., aged 75 years, the respected father of Mr. J. Emanuel, dentist, of this city. EMANUEL DEATH Mar 23, 1872, p. I On the 22nd instant, at her residence, Raglan-street, Ballarat, Victoria, Eliza, the beloved wife of Mr. Abraham Emanuel, for several gears a teacher of music in this city, in her 53rd year, and also the beloved mother of E. and M. Emanuel, of this city. I hope the above helps. Terry Newman Sydney, Australia

Louise, What's the time-frame on these? Have you any trace of Esther apart from the tombstones (census, birth of other children etc)? If she is buried in UK she would have needed a death certificate. Do you think she could have died and been buried abroad? Sherry (in grey and rainy Viersat, France) My great great grandfather Aaron Hart married Esther? I cant find a record of her death. He registered seveal of his children in one go without mentioning the mother.I know her name was Esther as she is mentioned on the tombstones of her daughters Julia and Catherine. How do I find out who she was?

correction to my earlier post I would like to know when Katie Morris nee Frydman came to England from Stopnice, Poland? is there a UK database for such a search equivalent to USA Ellis Island database? She was born in 1881, married in England 1899 at age 18. Her parents stayed in Poland, but I might guess she didn't travel alone. Her Hebrew/Polish name may have been Kajla. I have searched the jcr-uk database and did not find specific reference to this topic. -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

I have information on Barnett and Elizabeth's daughter Matilda and also their son John. Georgina Phillips

I would like to know when Katie Morris came to England from Stopnice, Poland? is there a UK database for such a search equivalent to USA Ellis Island database? She was born in 1881, married in England 1899 at age 18. Her parents stayed in Poland, and I might guess she didn't travel alone. I have searched the jcr-uk database and did not find specific reference to this topic. -- Kindest Regards, Ann Florida USA

My great great grandfather Aaron Hart married Esther? He was a member at sometime of the Hambro Synaoggue,. I cant find a record of her death. He registered seveal of his children in one go without mentioning the mother.I know her name was Esther as she is mentioned on the tombstones of her daughters Julia and Catherine. How do I find out who she was? It has been a brick wall for some years. Best wishes, Louise ----- Original Message -----

Hi Marianne, I have information on Barnett Hyams, do you have any information on Elizabeth Davis family. Sarah

Hello Miriam Thanks for the info. I had a look at FreeBMD. The June one was aged 43,reg in Hampstead and the November one was aged 82, reg Bethnal Green. Appreciate you looking tomorrow. No, I don't have access to the JC online so if you don't mind, would be interesting to see what the notices say. I have found later HAND's in Willesden, both called John. One passed away in 1939 and the other in 1940. I suspect they're all related. <Frances (1) on 28 June 1901 and Frances (2) on 29 November 1901 Miriam Pollak, London> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Hi Jessica Could be worth e mailing this society http://www.brandeis.edu/centers/wsrc/ernestinerose/highgate.html They have a lot of information about Ernestine and mention her husband a fair bit - they are both buried in Highgate Cemetery. The name spelling they are using is Ernestine L. Susmond Potowski Rose. According to another site, she married William in 1835 and her father's name was Isaac.http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G2-2591308061.html Would be great to find a record of the marriage and that should provide more clues. Another site says they married in 1832 and another in 1836. William was born around 1813. You may be able to find baptism records for him. There's also some info in http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ <both died in England - he in London, and she in Brighton Jessica Leschnikoff> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Heather, You might try www.*jgsgb*.org.uk/*1851*/index.asp . Ray

Dear All Isaac Tuchinsky m Ettie Barash 1909 ML. Morris Nutkovitch m Millie Barash 1933 Stepney. Several Nutkovitch births between 1914-1920 gives Tushinsky as mothers maiden name including Julius and Solomon Nutkovitch,who in 1943 changed their name to Nutt their address was 135 New North Rd Islington N1. Does Tuchinsky, Barash, Nutkovitch or Nutt sound familiar? Whilst writing may I say the recent newsletter was excellent. Many thanks Belinda Kaye UK

Hi Heather, There are pre-civil registration, births/circumcisions, marriages and deaths/burials on www.synagoguescribes.com But to be sure you would need to know the wife's name. Can you get that from a census? or from a child's birth (civil regstration showing mother's name)? Regards Gaby Laws London > But what I am wondering is where would I find a marriage record for a > Joseph HART prior to July 1827, with no idea of the name of his wife. > Thank you > Heather

I have just been able to decipher the terrible hand writing on a record we have for Joseph HART. The record is dated 30th July 1827 and it gives his age as 24 years, but the bit that up to now was unreadable, or I hadn't tried hard enough, is that is says that he was Married, but does not give the name of his wife. This is about a Joseph HART I have asked about on here before he was a Hatter and worked for his father in Gaulston St Whitechapel. But what I am wondering is where would I find a marriage record for a Joseph HART prior to July 1827, with no idea of the name of his wife. Thank you Heather

Has anyone got the following names in their trees please ? Ann (Davis) & Maurice Moses (sometimes Morris Moss) married 1838 Dinah (Davis) & Joseph Benjamin married 1849 Elizabeth (Davis) & Barnett Hyams married 1840 Another pair that I am researching are Isaac Joel b.1804 and his sister Dinah Joel b.1807 (children of David Joel and Kitty Levy). Dinah is Joel in 1851 but Davis in 1861. I found one marriage for her but not to a Davis. Any info please. Marianne, Sussex, England.

It means he was under 1 year old when he died. Sherry (Viersat, France) > The death record indicates zero for the age. Its the first record > I've seen like that. Does this mean the age was not available or does > this mean it was a newborn who died ?

Dear all, I’ve just had some information about a relation of mine – albeit distant. Ernestine ROSE, was born Ernestine Louise POLOWSKY in Piotrków Trybunalski, Russia-Poland. She married an ENGLISH silversmith / jeweller, William Ella ROSE, and lived with him in the UK during the latter half of the 19th Century. There is census information about both of them and they both died in England - he in London, and she in Brighton. Ernestine was a Jewish-Polish atheist, free-thinker and one of the original feminists who lead the way for women’s rights in the USA. It turns out that she was the great aunt of my great great aunt, Anna PULVERMACHER. I would very much like to know if anyone knows anything about her family tree, or that of her husband – or if you are related to her. You can do a search for her details – there are some things about her online that might give an indication of her family origins. I am keen to find out about her because her family line might lead backwards or forwards towards mine, shedding light on the origins of my particular branch of Pulvermachers, who settled in the UK four generations ago in the 1800s (all Jewish, Prussian etc). Any info gladly received or shared. Cheers, Jessica Leschnikoff Researching: Pulvermacher, Barnett, Polowsky, Leschnikoff, Ehrlich, Rose