With apologies again(!) to non UK viewers: I've just noticed this tonight on BBC1 - begins at 22:25 - 23:10 pm. Who Do You Think You Are? USA, Lisa Kudrow "Actress Lisa Kudrow traces her roots in the US version of the celebrity genealogy series. Since childhood, Lisa has known that her grandmother Gertrude had a tough life; two of her three children died in childhood, her husband died young, and her mother, Meri, perished in the Holocaust. Lisa's father Lee recalled hearing about Meri's death when a cousin from Europe, Yuri Barudin, visited him and Gertrude in New York in the late 1940s. The family never heard from Yuri again. 60 years on, Lisa is determined to find out what became of Yuri, and uncover the truth of what actually happened to her great-grandmother. In New York, Lisa meets with her father's cousin, who provides her with crucial information about Yuri. In Belarus, Lisa travels to IIya, the village where her great-grandmother lived. Here she uncovers the awful truth of how Meri died. Although the Nazis destroyed much of the evidence, Lisa unearths documents and eyewitness testimonies describing what happened to her great-grandmother and the other Jews of Ilya in March, 1942. Later, while visiting the memorial to those who died, Lisa pays her respects and finds it hard to hold back the tears. Intent on finding out what happened to Yuri, Lisa travels to the Polish city of Gdynia, his last known residence. Here, she discovers a heart-warming story that she cannot wait to tell her father." Best, Ruth in Brum (Birmingham, England)

Hi Phillip - have you looked through the London Gazette http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London and http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/ for probate records. You may also find some info at the local library or historical society for the area where the incident happened. <all I have to go on is a death-record. Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Hello all and thankyou Jackye.Would it be acceptable should I beg to differ ? Best wishes, Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel

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Dear All Is anyone researching a STARK family? Alfred born Marylebone, 1913 and Paul born Pancras, 1916. Their mother was Emma nee STARK. Married David OHGRIN/OGRIN in Pancras, 1912. Thanks Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Hello all and thankyou for kind messages in reply to my question. I believe that Sherry has answered to the point.I shall soldier on. One asks oneself, why is there not a central burial- records department that can be accessed by the general public ? Are there state-secrets involved? Best wishes. Phillip Campbell Amirim Village Galilee Israel

Hello Judi Jacob Lewis of 19 Brunswick St, Leeds, from Prussia, naturalised 30th July,1894. I believe you've applied for his file. Lewis, Isaac, n, Nile, and 10, Back Nile Street; Wholesale and retail dealer in woollen goods and drapery. He was at the address in 1891 as son in law, tailor aged 24 and father was Jacob Lewis, brewer. The naturalisation Jacob was a slipper maker/journeyman and still had that occupation when Mary Lewis married in 1920. It also showed in 1901. I'm not sure about his occupation in 1911. The naturalisation file will hopefully provide more clues. <What year was Jacob Lewis a resident of 19 Brunswick St? 10 Back Nile St address might have been his first residence Judi Conway, USA> Naomi Ogin Brisbane

Phillip, Listers here have given you some avenues to pursue. Most countries do not wish to have one central department for death records nor can they take on such a task. UK is lucky to have the GRO index which does give you a clue to the certificates. From then on, it's up to the researcher to find more information. If you use some of the sources suggested here, you probably wouldn't need one central source of information. Jackye Sullins Carlsbad, CA > One asks oneself, why is there not a central burial- records department > that can be accessed by the general public ? Are there state-secrets > involved? Best wishes. > > Phillip Campbell > Amirim Village > Galilee Israel

Hello Sherry and Tony and all. Thankyou so much.In this particular case of mine, almost 50 years ago, all I have to go on is a death-record. I have trawled and trawled, some of you may know that I am very good at finding people. But to no avail. Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel ________________________________

I addition, if the death was suspicious, have you searched newspapers from that time period to see if anything was written about it or searched the Jewish Chronicle for the same? Jackye Sullins Carlsbad, CA > In this particular case of mine, almost 50 years ago, all I have to go on > is a death-record. > > Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel

Phillip, I probably missed something in this thread but have you studied the death certificate for clues such as informant and area where he died, asked the US for help in locating the grave or searched their online database? Have you contacted the Jewish cemeteries in the city where the person died if they don't belong to US? Did he die in an institution where you might find records? Jackye Sullins Carlsbad, CA In this particular case of mine, almost 50 years ago, all I have to go on is a death-record. > Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel

Hello Leonard and all. I have checked and as you may know, the family of Isaac and Dora Henry are well recorded in The England Censuses of 1851, 1861 and 1871 giving all information of birth-places of Isaac and Dora and of course, their children. Is this what you are looking for or are you looking back beyond 1851? I cannot find yet any recorded marriage in England of Isaac and Dora.If you don't have this information within the above Censuses, let me know and I'll forward it to you. Phillip Campbell Amirim Galilee Israel

Simply put, no, not as far as I know, wish there was. That said the police would have access to records that the public would not and they might be able to trace where a body was buried, if foul play was suspected. Sherry Landa (Oxford, UK) Is there a central UK government office or whatever where all records of burial are recorded whether online or not ?

What year was Jacob Lewis a resident of 19 Brunswick St? I'm wondering if that 10 Back Nile St address might have been his first residence, after arrival? Judi

My name is Leonard Ward and I live in California. My Jewish ancestors came from Prussia/Poland, but spent a generation in Spitafields. Surname HENRY – I see you submitted it. I have ancestors Marcus Henry, parents Isaac Henry and Dora/Dova Henry. -Marcus was born in 1856 in England, emigrated to the States in the early 1870s. -Isaac Henry was born either in Poland or Prussia about 1829, emigrated to England sometime before 1851. -Dora/Dova Henry was also born in either Poland or Prussa, about 1828 or 1829. She may have emigrated with Isaac, but I have no confirmation either way. All I know is she too was in England by 1851. Do you have any information? Unfortunately I don’t have the mother’s maiden name. Thank you!

Hello all . I have a question please that needs a simple yes or no in answer.Is there a central UK government office or whatever where all records of burial are recorded whether online or not ? I'd like to give this example.Suppose just suppose that in a police-investigation ,they may suspect that 'John Smith' of 'Scunthorpe' who died in '1960' may have been poisoned because in say '2010' infomation came to light. How would they know where this 'John Smith' was buried assuming that no family-members were still alive etc? There is a Jewish UK connection to my question, but I am not at liberty to divulge.Thankyou so much. Phillip campbell Amirim village Galilee Israel

I hope that Liz Greene and others who know that they have ancestors who served in the British military take a look at the military records on findmypast.com. This is a rich source of information and worthwhile the time to pull out the data. One of the databases is "Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919. When I searched, as an example, on COHEN, there were 97 entries including 35 who were born in Manchester (my home town). The record for each person included their name, regiment, battalion, birthplace, enlisted place, residence, rank, number, date died, how died, theater of war, and supplimentary notes. Many of the individuals were listed as killed in action, died of wounds, died, and some died at home which is an interesting category. Another database is the National Roll of the Great War 1914-1918 which has biographies of men who served, both who died and those who survived. The entries mainly have initials for first names which can prove to be challenging when looking for someone specific. Again, looking at Cohen and at Manchester, an example is L. Cohen, Driver, R.F.A., who joined in October 1916, was sent to France in April, 1917, and took part in the severe fighting around Arras and other areas. He was taken ill and died on August 21, 1917 and was buried in the Etaples Military Cemetery. He received the General Service and Victory Medals. He lived at 80, Pendine Street, Higher Broughton. Many of these short biographies tell of the hardships that the soldiers suffered and the great contributions they made to the war effort. Another web site which also lists the individuals killed who served with the Manchester Regiment is the following: http://www.themanchesters.org/Manchester%20casualties%201914%201916.html. Looking again at COHEN, as an example, one finds the following soldier who was buried at the Thiepval Memorial, Somme, France: COHEN, Private, BENJAMIN, 26196, 21st Bn., Manchester Regiment. 1 July 1916. Age 19. Son of Mr. and Mrs. P. Cohen, of 146, Broughton St., Cheetham, Manchester. Pier and Face 13 A and 14 C. Ann Rabinowitz [email protected]

Ann, Thank you for the reference to Martin Sugarman¹s book. I have just joined the mailing list so this is all quite new to me. I have recently discovered that the oldest of my father¹s brothers (from a family of nine) served in the Duke of Cornwall¹s Light Infantry and died in 1916 in the Great War at the age of 19 (he was one of the first to enlist in 1914), and I have found the location of his war grave in Picardie. Those of my generation with parents born in the first decades of the 20th century might well have close relatives who served in the Great War - many of them were the children of the great wave of immigrants from Poland and Lithuania at the end of the 19th century. This is the case with my grandparents, who arrived from Lithuania in the early 1890s. I have also discovered that one of my cousins ­ the son of another of my father¹s older brothers ­ served in the British Navy during World War II, and was on the King George V when it sank the Bismarck. Best wishes, Liz Greene

Ann, Thank you for the reference to Martin Sugarman¹s book. I have just joined the mailing list so this is all quite new to me. I have recently discovered that the oldest of my father¹s brothers (from a family of nine) served in the Duke of Cornwall¹s Light Infantry and died in 1916 in the Great War at the age of 19 (he was one of the first to enlist in 1914), and I have found the location of his war grave in Picardie. Those of my generation with parents born in the first decades of the 20th century might well have close relatives who served in the Great War - many of them were the children of the great wave of immigrants from Poland and Lithuania at the end of the 19th century. This is the case with my grandparents, who arrived from Lithuania in the early 1890s. I have also discovered that one of my cousins ­ the son of another of my father¹s older brothers ­ served in the British Navy during World War II, and was on the King George V when it sank the Bismarck. Best wishes, Liz Greene

You may wish to read the article on the JewishGen Blog regarding the new book entitled "Fighting Back" by Martin Sugarman. http://jewishgen.blogspot.com/2010/09/fighting-back-british-jewrys-military.html The author discusses the participation of the British Jews in World War II. Ann Rabinowitz [email protected]