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    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: [ENG-SURNAMES] Re: Message from List Admin (fwd)
    2. M. Diane Rogers
    3. I think it would be good if the three lists merged. And there is the eng-onenamestudies.rootsweb.com list which would likely be compatible. Diane M. Diane Rogers Saggers One-Name Study From: "Bret Busby" <bret@busby.net> To: brit-surnames@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 1:03:03 PM Subject: [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: [ENG-SURNAMES] Re: Message from List Admin (fwd) Something for the list and its List Administrator to consider. This relates to the shutdown of all of the Rootsweb mailing lists, announced ten days ago, the shutdown being scheduled for 02 March 2020. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia

    01/21/2020 10:51:15
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: [ENG-SURNAMES] Re: Message from List Admin (fwd)
    2. Bret Busby
    3. Something for the list and its List Administrator to consider. This relates to the shutdown of all of the Rootsweb mailing lists, announced ten days ago, the shutdown being scheduled for 02 March 2020. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:56:07 From: Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> To: eng-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-SURNAMES] Re: Message from List Admin On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, Chris Mahoney wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:37:09 > From: Chris Mahoney <cmahoney@orcon.net.nz> > To: eng-surnames@rootsweb.com, Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-SURNAMES] Re: Message from List Admin > > Hi > > On some lists I admin, a replacement has already been set up. > > This particular one, I have done nothing so far.  If people here would like > me to set up a replacement for the list elsewhere, do let me know, and I will > make it happen. > > > On 14/01/2020 5:49 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020, Chris Mahoney wrote: >> >>> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 06:31:53 >>> From: Chris Mahoney <cmahoney@orcon.net.nz> >>> Reply-To: eng-surnames@rootsweb.com >>> To: eng-surnames-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [ENG-SURNAMES] Message from List Admin >>> >>> Hello All >>> >>> As you are all no doubt aware off, Ancestry are planning to shut down all >>> Rootsweb mailing lists from March 2nd, including this one. >>> >>> My suggestion is that, as the archives to the Rootsweb lists will remain in >>> place is for you to re-post your interests, queries and so on now so that >>> people can see them in the future, and include your email address in the >>> body of the message so that people can contact you about that post. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Chris >>> Eng-Surnames Rootsweb List Admin >>> >>> >> >> Are you intending to create a replacement for this list, at groups.io, or >> otherwise? >> >> -- >> Bret Busby >> Armadale >> West Australia >> .............. >> >> "So once you do know what the question actually is, >>  you'll know what the answer means." >> - Deep Thought, >>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of >>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: >>   A Trilogy In Four Parts", >>   written by Douglas Adams, >>   published by Pan Books, 1992 >> .................................................... >> > This list exists; also brit-surnames, and, I am the List Administrator for eng-nth-surnames. A number of new groups.io groups have been created, that involve the merging of existing Rootsweb lists; eg, the Surrey-London-Middlesex group, and the Bedfordshire-Hertfordshore-Cambridgeshire groups. I am wondering whether my list, this list, and, the brit-surnames list, should be merged into a new group at groups.io. Each of these three surnames lists, has been relatively quiet, of late, so I believe that merging the three, into a new group, could be worthwhile. It would, of course (or, should) involve a discussion between the three List Administrators, to agree on one taking over and merging the three lists, into a new group. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

    01/17/2020 02:03:03
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] RootsWeb Mailing Lists -- some very bad news :-(
    2. Lynne
    3. List administrators just received this message. No advanced warning, not even an inkling. Am shocked to the core. Lynne list admin. -----Forwarded Message----- >From: RootsWeb Administration <rwmailinglists@ancestry.com> >Sent: Jan 7, 2020 12:37 PM >To: listowners@rootsweb.com >Subject: [LO] RootsWeb Mailing Lists > >Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > >Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb. > >As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > >Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this community. > >Sincerely, >The RootsWeb team

    01/07/2020 11:49:53
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: [BRITNAMES] Surname Interests
    2. Michael Brown
    3. Hello Mike here ....I have Thomas Mount born 1799 Herne Bay as an ancestor plus Bearling Rowden and May ancestors . I have a unlocked tree on ancestry.ca if you want to check it out Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

    01/05/2020 09:04:02
  1. 07/26/2019 09:58:36
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Probate Registry reduces prices
    2. Lynne
    3. The cost of obtaining a will from the Probate Registry has been reduced to £1.50 for downloaded copies. From <https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate>: "Find a probate record, also known as a ‘grant of representation’, for someone who died after 1857. "Probate gives someone the legal right to deal with a deceased person’s property, money and possessions (their ‘estate’). "A new probate record will be online approximately 14 days after probate has been issued. "There’s a different process in Scotland and Northern Ireland. "You can use this service to: - search for a probate record in England and Wales - check if probate has been issued - check the type of probate issued - order a copy of a probate record (including a will, if there is one) "Each copy of a probate record ordered online costs £1.50. "It can take up to 10 working days for you to receive your documents. "Before you start "Wills and probate records from 1858 to 1996 "If you cannot find the record you’re looking for, check the years after the person died. These records are stored under the year the grant was issued, rather than the year of death. "To find the will of someone who died in the early 1990s, you may need to check the records that cover 1996 onwards. "Not all probate records contain a will. Check the type of grant of representation when you search. "The grant types that contain a will include: - ‘Probate’ or ‘Grant and Will’ - ‘Admon with Will’ or ‘Grant and Will’ "‘Administration (Admon) or Grant’ does not contain a will. "Search for a probate record by post Download and fill in form PA1S to search for a probate record by post. Send it to the address on" the form. "It costs £1.50 for a search by post. This includes a copy of the probate record and will (if there is one). "You should get a response within 4 weeks. "If the person died in the last 6 months "Probate may not have been granted yet. You can use form PA1S to ask to be sent a copy of a probate if it’s granted in the next 6 months. This is called a ‘standing search’. It costs £10. "You can extend the standing search after 6 months." Happy searching! Lynne

    07/23/2019 01:59:09
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Researching Methodist ancestors?
    2. Lynne
    3. If you're researching Methodist ancestors, The Methodist Heritage site might be helpful. Discussed on the site are where to find local church and circuit records, locations of Methodist church archives, and certificates of baptism, as well as where to find information about officers and ministers of the church and other information. See <http://www.methodistheritage.org.uk/research-family.htm> Happy searching! Lynne

    07/07/2019 03:44:35
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Free family history classes, many in the comfort of your own home
    2. Lynne
    3. FamilySearch offers free family history classes many of which are in webinar form and can be accessed on a home computer or other device. The price is right and a lot of the titles sound very worthwhile. Take a look at the April schedule at <https://media.familysearch.org/free-family-history-library-classes-and-webinars-in-april-2019/> or <http://tinyurl.com/y4yoyfqa>. If you take advantage of any of the classes, please tell the list about it and whether you would recommend it.

    04/11/2019 12:02:46
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Adoptions
    2. Lynne
    3. If you have an ancestor in your tree who was adopted, you might find this article in Family Tree magazine helpful, which includes links to available UK records and resources and websites that can help in your research. See <http://tinyurl.com/y57foenp>

    04/11/2019 12:02:45
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Surname SAGAR
    2. M. Diane Rogers
    3. Dear Alan, There is a One-Name Study for the Sagar surname. Mr. John Sagar, who is doing that research, may have information for you. You can reach him through the Guild of One-Name Studies. https://one-name.org/ Best wishes, Diane M. Diane Rogers, British Columbia, Canada Saggers One-Name Study On 2019-03-21 6:04 p.m., Alan Baldwin wrote: Hello Lynne Thank you for finding this family. However the Edwin Sagar I am seeking was born about 1871/2 (sorry I mis-keyed in original posting) and his father was John Sagar (from marriage certificate and 1881 census)....

    03/22/2019 12:14:08
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Surname SAGAR
    2. Alan Baldwin
    3. Hello Lynne Thank you for finding this family. However the Edwin Sagar I am seeking was born about 1871/2 (sorry I mis-keyed in original posting) and his father was John Sagar (from marriage certificate and 1881 census). It is interesting that there is another Hariet Baldwin in that area., but there are a lot of Baldwins in the region. In the 1901 census (transcription found by a collaborator under Sayer) the couple are at 20 Saxon St, Stoneyholme. Harriet Sagar travelled to NZ, remarried and advised previous husband had died in 1900 (conflicts with 1901 census). I left things open so that people might find some different information. Again, thanks for finding something new. Alan. -----Original Message----- From: Lynne [mailto:lklein@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:17 AM To: brit-surnames@rootsweb.com Subject: [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Surname SAGAR Hi Alan Found this in a tree ("Taylor Ingham Holcomb Mcilwain")maintained by liann01 on Ancestry: Edwin Sagar Spouse: Harriet (Sagar) Baldwin Father: Thomas Sagar Mother: Elizabeth (Sagar) Batty Children: Fielding Birth: 3 Jan 1875 Clayton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England Death: 19 Dec 1960 Burnley, Lancashire, England Residence: 1901 Burnley, Lancashire, England And from Lancashire BMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/deathsearch.php): Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1960 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference SAGAR Edwin 85 Burnley Second Preston BS/7/22 The death is registered on the GRO (General Register Office) index: Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1960 (>99%) SAGAR Edwin 85 Burnley 10b 830 Scan available - click to view The scan mentioned is not of the death certificate but of the entry in the index. To order a copy of the death certificate from the GRO, follow the instructions at <https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate> If you have further research to do on this family, it might be worth joining the mailing list for Lancashire, LancsGen. Great list with very friendly, helpful subscribers. See <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=lancsgen> for information and subscription links. Hope that helps! Lynne Alan Baldwin <a.hbaldwin@inspire.net.nz> wrote: > >From Alan Baldwin > >Seeking information on life of Edwin SAGAR b ? 187 m Harriet Baldwin 1896. >Seeking record of decease. > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/brit-surnames@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/21/2019 07:04:30
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Surname SAGAR
    2. Lynne
    3. Hi Alan Found this in a tree ("Taylor Ingham Holcomb Mcilwain")maintained by liann01 on Ancestry: Edwin Sagar Spouse: Harriet (Sagar) Baldwin Father: Thomas Sagar Mother: Elizabeth (Sagar) Batty Children: Fielding Birth: 3 Jan 1875 Clayton-le-Moors, Lancashire, England Death: 19 Dec 1960 Burnley, Lancashire, England Residence: 1901 Burnley, Lancashire, England And from Lancashire BMD (http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/deathsearch.php): Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1960 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference SAGAR Edwin 85 Burnley Second Preston BS/7/22 The death is registered on the GRO (General Register Office) index: Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1960 (>99%) SAGAR Edwin 85 Burnley 10b 830 Scan available - click to view The scan mentioned is not of the death certificate but of the entry in the index. To order a copy of the death certificate from the GRO, follow the instructions at <https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate> If you have further research to do on this family, it might be worth joining the mailing list for Lancashire, LancsGen. Great list with very friendly, helpful subscribers. See <https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=lancsgen> for information and subscription links. Hope that helps! Lynne Alan Baldwin <a.hbaldwin@inspire.net.nz> wrote: > >From Alan Baldwin > >Seeking information on life of Edwin SAGAR b ? 187 m Harriet Baldwin 1896. >Seeking record of decease. >

    03/20/2019 03:17:22
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Surname SAGAR
    2. Alan Baldwin
    3. From Alan Baldwin Seeking information on life of Edwin SAGAR b ? 187 m Harriet Baldwin 1896. Seeking record of decease.

    03/19/2019 10:15:32
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: New Zealand subscribers
    2. John and Sheryl Bright
    3. Thank you all. To my knowledge all my relatives in Christchurch are safe at this time. Let us also pray for our Muslim friends and families .... From one of us here is the land down south. Thanks John On 18/03/2019 7:34 a.m., Maggie Strutt via BRIT-SURNAMES wrote: > Well said Lynne, We Brits wholeheartedly agree with those sentiments. Our prayers are with you. > > > Maggie Strutt > Park Farm House > Carlton Road > Carlton > SAXMUNDHAM > Suffolk > IP17 2QE > UK > > > > > > > —— > > > > > > View Clive's books on: > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clive-Strutt/e/B00TK9VBVY/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1 > > or https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/715519 > > www.clivestrutt.com > > > > > > On 17 Mar 2019, at 15:48, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Dear friends in New Zealand, > > We are mourning with you. > > Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. > > Lynne > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/brit-surnames@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/brit-surnames@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com

    03/17/2019 04:57:02
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: New Zealand subscribers
    2. Maggie Strutt
    3. Well said Lynne, We Brits wholeheartedly agree with those sentiments. Our prayers are with you. Maggie Strutt Park Farm House Carlton Road Carlton SAXMUNDHAM Suffolk IP17 2QE UK —— View Clive's books on: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clive-Strutt/e/B00TK9VBVY/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1 or https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/715519 www.clivestrutt.com On 17 Mar 2019, at 15:48, Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> wrote: Dear friends in New Zealand, We are mourning with you. Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. Lynne _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/brit-surnames@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    03/17/2019 12:34:25
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] New Zealand subscribers
    2. Lynne
    3. Dear friends in New Zealand, We are mourning with you. Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. Lynne

    03/17/2019 12:16:45
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Richardson
    2. Lynne
    3. Hi Meagan RICHARDSON is a pretty common name so you will need to provide some first names, dates, and locations. If you are looking for RICHARDSONs in Scotland, posting to a Scotland mailing list will probably result in some assistance. You could also try posting on the RICHARDSON mailing list (<https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/details?list_name=richardson>) and message board (<https://www.ancestry.co.uk/boards/surnames.richardson/mb.ashx>). Kind regards, Lynne meagan and peter osullivan <osullipe@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Hello, > >I am interested in finding anyone who has been researching Richardson from in the early 1800’s.I have been there and found my ancestor but never found where he was first married or born.At Edinburgh archives I found some work done over 15 years ago on Richardsons in Haddington but the letter I sent to the address given was never answered. > >Could anyone help me? > > >Meagan O’Sullivan(née Richardson) >Sydney,Australia

    03/09/2019 05:46:20
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Richardson
    2. meagan and peter osullivan
    3. Hello, I am interested in finding anyone who has been researching Richardson from in the early 1800’s.I have been there and found my ancestor but never found where he was first married or born.At Edinburgh archives I found some work done over 15 years ago on Richardsons in Haddington but the letter I sent to the address given was never answered. Could anyone help me? Meagan O’Sullivan(née Richardson) Sydney,Australia

    03/09/2019 01:18:46
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Family history bargains
    2. Lynne
    3. Great! Thanks, Maggie! Maggie Strutt via BRIT-SURNAMES wrote: > >other free resources: > >http://www.genealogydiscount.co.uk <http://www.genealogydiscount.co.uk/> > >https://www.lostcousins.com <https://www.lostcousins.com/> > > > >

    02/09/2019 08:44:14
    1. [BRIT-SURNAMES] Re: Family history bargains
    2. Maggie Strutt
    3. other free resources: http://www.genealogydiscount.co.uk <http://www.genealogydiscount.co.uk/> https://www.lostcousins.com <https://www.lostcousins.com/> Do you know of any other free resources? Please let us know! Lynne _______________________________________________

    02/08/2019 10:18:36