Hello- My gr. Grandfather William Brean, b 1845, Wrington, was the son of Thomas Brean, bt. 1817, Winford. Thomas was the son of Richard Brean, bt. 1776, Winford. Richard & wife, Hester Barnes had the following children baptized at Winford's St. Mary & St. Peter Church: Sarah, 1803; Wm., 1806; Ann, 1809; John, 1812; John, 1815; Thomas, 1817; Hester, 1820. Later I found (with help of generous listers) a George Brean, b. 1812, Winford. His marriage record shows his father as Richard Brean. George married Ann Stokes, in 1842, Winford. George was buried 1889, Brislington. St. Luke's, age 77. Ann-same place, 1882, age 68. Residence in census 1851 was Long Ashton, Backwell; 1861-Oaken Hill Cottage, Brislington; 1881- N K Cottage, Brislington. The list of baptisms for Richard & Hester family was from LDS British Film #1526112, Items 25 & 26. (All but the first John Brean, 1812. That I saw on FreeReg.) It was a very hard film to see. I wonder if someone on this list would be able to look at that film to see if the first John Brean bt. 1812 was really George. Thanks for any help. Therese

On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:30:34 +0100, Therese Ives <[email protected]> wrote: > My gr. Grandfather William Brean, b 1845, Wrington, was the son of Thomas > Brean, bt. 1817, Winford. Thomas was the son of Richard Brean, bt. 1776, > Winford. Richard & wife, Hester Barnes had the following children > baptized at Winford's St. Mary & St. Peter Church: > Sarah, 1803; Wm., 1806; Ann, 1809; John, 1812; John, 1815; Thomas, > 1817; Hester, 1820. > The list of baptisms for Richard & Hester family was from LDS British > Film> #1526112, Items 25 & 26. (All but the first John Brean, 1812. > That I saw on FreeReg.) It was a very hard film to see. I wonder if > someone on this list would be able to look at that film to see if the > first John Brean bt. 1812 was really George. Hi Therese, I looked in the Winford baptisms, on the web site of Moyra and Steve Jones, and saw the baptism of John BREAN, son of Richard and Hester, on 8th. May 1812: http://www.origins.plus.com/winford/winfordbapt1.htm Josephine

Thank you, Josephine. I saw that same information on the FreeReg. I am so confused by the two John Brean's born 3 yrs. apart, having the same father and mother. I have seen the John Brean, b 1815, Winford, on census of 1881 in Bedminster, married to a Mary Ann. I sent for a copy of their marriage record and find that John's father is Richard, a labourer. Mary Ann Rees or Reed is the daughter of George. They gave their residences as Long Ashton. Marriage date - May 9, 1841, in St. John Baptist Church, Bristol. A couple yrs. ago I looked at the LDS Film for baptisms at Winford and at certain places the film is absolutely black. Maybe that is where the 1812 was. Could it be that the transcriber could make a mistake? Or could there have been twins John and George born in 1812 and only George survived? I am not sure that another look at the film I viewed would help. Is there an original tape somewhere in Bristol or Winford to look at? Thanks again, Josephine, for your help and for plowing through this long email ! Therese -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] BREAN, Winford On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:30:34 +0100, Therese Ives <[email protected]> wrote: > My gr. Grandfather William Brean, b 1845, Wrington, was the son of > Thomas Brean, bt. 1817, Winford. Thomas was the son of Richard Brean, > bt. 1776, Winford. Richard & wife, Hester Barnes had the following > children baptized at Winford's St. Mary & St. Peter Church: > Sarah, 1803; Wm., 1806; Ann, 1809; John, 1812; John, 1815; > Thomas, 1817; Hester, 1820. > The list of baptisms for Richard & Hester family was from LDS British > Film> #1526112, Items 25 & 26. (All but the first John Brean, 1812. > That I saw on FreeReg.) It was a very hard film to see. I wonder if > someone on this list would be able to look at that film to see if the > first John Brean bt. 1812 was really George. Hi Therese, I looked in the Winford baptisms, on the web site of Moyra and Steve Jones, and saw the baptism of John BREAN, son of Richard and Hester, on 8th. May 1812: http://www.origins.plus.com/winford/winfordbapt1.htm Josephine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 04:37:57 +0100, Therese Ives <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you, Josephine. I saw that same information on the FreeReg. Hi Therese, You'd mentioned in your initial e-mail that you had found the 1812 baptism of John BREAN on FreeReg, so that's why I checked another source for Winford baptisms on the web site of Moyra and Steve Jones: http://www.origins.plus.com/winford/winfordbapt1.htm I don't know if the FreeReg Winford baptisms were from the same source, but if not then there are two transcriptions of the same information that it was John BREAN who was baptized in 1812 at Winford, Somerset. > I am so confused by the two John Brean's born 3 yrs. apart, having the > same father and mother. Ihave seen the John Brean, b 1815, Winford, on > census of 1881 in Bedminster, married to a MaryAnn. As there are trancriptions for 1812 and 1815 baptisms for John BREAN, son of Richard and Hester, this suggests that the John who was baptized in 1812 died and his name was given to another son. To confirm this you would have to find the burial of a John BREAN, between 1812 and 1815, in the locality. Josephine