Hi Everyone, I've been a member of this list for awhile but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. Thanks all for the genealogical research tips. Today the notice about the Pocock painting up for auction was of great interest to me. Pocock also illustrated a novel by the artist, stage designer, musician, seaman, and author, William Williams (born and died in Bristol) who lived for a time in America (approximately from 1740 to 1773). Here is a link which might be of interest. It's to the Christie's sale in 2006 of the Williams' manuscript with Pocock's illustrations––it is now in the collection of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4784218 Also of interest might be the article about the Bristol School of artists: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/the-bristol-school-of-artists/ I am researching William Williams (1727-1791) and a group of people associated with him in Bristol––among them––Thomas and Rev. John Eagles, Edward Bird, and Dr. Thomas Pole. I know there are many people by the name of William Williams, but if anyone knows anything about the man who died in the Mariners' almshouse in 1791, I would very much love to hear about it. Living in America, I can't get to Bristol easily. Williams married a woman named Hester/Esther Hart in New York in 1773 and had a step-daughter Mary, who married one Robert Byrchmore in London in 1784. Any hints on sources for research in the Bristol/Gloucestershire area for this time period would be much appreciated. Best regards, Pam ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 3:11:57 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Today's Topics: 1. Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. Re: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 4. Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 5. B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post (liverpud) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:52:50 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, An article in The Post has caught my eye: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:34:45 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, This may be of interest to list members. The Western Daily Press has a list of venues in Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, which are taking part in Heritage Open Days this week: Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Opening-doors-discover-heritage-treasures/story-16820720-detail/story.html Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:36:50 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:44:30 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi again, After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that popped up: http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-lloyd71/ Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:58 -0400 From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Nancy, We noticed that. Rather sad that it was so accepted at the time. Excellent site there, Nancy. (;-(( Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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Hi List, Pamela, I loved that link about the Williams book which Pocock illustrated, thank you! Amazing in that it was considered the first novel written in America. ‘Twas a very interesting website. I noticed in the text there were notes on another book Clarke and McArthur's Life of Nelson. My interests lie with the CLARKE family so i googled the author James Stanier Clarke and found the following interesting book. He also wrote The Biographical Memoirs of the late Captain James Cook FRS.: http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=zv4TAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage I googled further to discover that Rev James Stanier Clarke FRS was the Chaplain and Librarian to his Royal Highness Prince Regent, to be histographer to his Majesty! Another interesting text mentioning him was the “The Royal Kalendar, and court and city register for England, Scotland Ireland and the Colonies for the year 1820”, which is full of names and information. http://books.google.co.nz/books?id=zOcNAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false Further investigation found that he corresponded with Jane Austen and wrote a Friendship Book which came up for auction last year at Christie’s after having been found in a second hand bookshop in Canterbury! The book is a record of some of his contacts amongst some of the most influential people in Regency England and contains 100 cpntemporary paintings, drawings verses etc inlcuding Nicholas Pocock, George Romney, William Hodges, Anna Seward and Nelson’s Hardy. http://austenonly.com/2011/06/16/the-continuing-saga-of-james-stanier-clarkes-portrait-of-jane-austen/ So you can see, one listing on here sometimes leads to a whole new world of discoveries!! and things to side track you from what you originally were looking for!!! I am now going to ancestry to have a look for Mr James Stanier Clarke genealogy! Amanda NZ From: Pamela Ehrlich Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [B&S] BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Hi Everyone, I've been a member of this list for awhile but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. Thanks all for the genealogical research tips. Today the notice about the Pocock painting up for auction was of great interest to me. Pocock also illustrated a novel by the artist, stage designer, musician, seaman, and author, William Williams (born and died in Bristol) who lived for a time in America (approximately from 1740 to 1773). Here is a link which might be of interest. It's to the Christie's sale in 2006 of the Williams' manuscript with Pocock's illustrations––it is now in the collection of the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4784218 Also of interest might be the article about the Bristol School of artists: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/the-bristol-school-of-artists/ I am researching William Williams (1727-1791) and a group of people associated with him in Bristol––among them––Thomas and Rev. John Eagles, Edward Bird, and Dr. Thomas Pole. I know there are many people by the name of William Williams, but if anyone knows anything about the man who died in the Mariners' almshouse in 1791, I would very much love to hear about it. Living in America, I can't get to Bristol easily. Williams married a woman named Hester/Esther Hart in New York in 1773 and had a step-daughter Mary, who married one Robert Byrchmore in London in 1784. Any hints on sources for research in the Bristol/Gloucestershire area for this time period would be much appreciated. Best regards, Pam ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 3:11:57 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 216 Today's Topics: 1. Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. Re: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 4. Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post (Nancy Frey) 5. B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post (liverpud) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:52:50 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, An article in The Post has caught my eye: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:34:45 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures -- list of venues in Western Daily Press To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, This may be of interest to list members. The Western Daily Press has a list of venues in Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire and Gloucestershire, which are taking part in Heritage Open Days this week: Opening the doors to discover heritage treasures http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/Opening-doors-discover-heritage-treasures/story-16820720-detail/story.html Josephine -- ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:36:50 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > > -- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:44:30 -0400 From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Fwd: Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi again, After bookmarking the two sites for future reference, I did a google for the ship mentioned - ie The Lloyd of Bristol. Here's the URL that popped up: http://discoveringbristol.org.uk/browse/slavery/page-of-log-book-of-ship-lloyd71/ Looks like I nailed it on the head -- Pocock was a SLAVER!!!!! Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nancy Frey <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article in The Post To: [email protected] Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:58 -0400 From: "liverpud" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Nancy, We noticed that. Rather sad that it was so accepted at the time. Excellent site there, Nancy. (;-(( Edna - Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Frey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Maritime painting set to fetch thousands -- article inThe Post Hi Josephine, That's a really fabulous painting. The information on Pocock was enlightening as well. The article says: "By 1766, he was in command of Richard Champion's ship, Lloyd, and he made six voyages in her to South Carolina." In all probability, he was doing the 'triangle route' which took goods to Africa, picked up slaves, delivered them to South Carolina, and brought back tobacco to Bristol. It might be worth looking for his log books in connection with my searches for the ancestors of American who knew they descended from slaves. Thanks for posting this information. Regards, Nancy Frey Newcastle, Ontario, CANADA On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Josephine Jeremiah <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Listers, > > An article in The Post has caught my eye: > > Maritime painting set to fetch thousands > >http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Maritime-painting-set-fetch-thousands/story-16825722-detail/story.html >l > > The oil painting of Bristol is by Nicholas Pocock. > > More information about Nicholas Pocock: Mariner Artist is here: > >http://mshed.org/explore-contribute/themes/creating/visual-arts/nicholas-pocock-mariner-artist/ >/ > > Josephine > ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to [email protected]com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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