On: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:24:05 +0100 "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> wrote: I now have further information about Benjamin WATERS from the new CD, Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1(z) Index & Transcripts 1724-2009, produced by Bristol& Avon Family History Society. Hello Josephine, Thank you for continuing to search and find WATERS information. This week I am visiting Dubuque, Iowa and SW Wisconsin where so many English immigrants, including my ancestors, settled. I will be searching for more information there and also sharing with cousins, info that I have learned thanks to this site and helpful listers like you. Judy ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:55 AM Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 7, Issue 232 Today's Topics: 1. Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Re: Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) (Edie) 3. Re: Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, Conventry, Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 (Edie) 4. Re: Lesson learnt (brian skehan) 5. Re: Lesson learnt (Josephine Jeremiah) 6. WATERS Benjamin, Bristol Apprenticeship Books, 1775 (was HILL and WATERS families) (Josephine Jeremiah) 7. Re: Lesson learnt (brian skehan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:13:14 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:39:22 +0100, Edie <[email protected]> wrote: > Even more important Elaine, get the film of the original record > out,.that will save a lot ofheartache and misinformtion. > The Parish records have more information on them than the transcribed > indexes do. > Edie Hi Edie and Listers, I can think of one transcribed index that has the information that is in parish registers. This is the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk It's a wonderful resource as it shows status, age, the brides' and grooms' occupations, where they lived, whether they signed the register or marked, their fathers' names and occupations, witnesses and whether they signed or marked. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:42:08 +1000 From: "Edie" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That is good but not all do unfortunately. i like the original record myself but a CD like that would be a good start and would guide you to the original Parishs film required.. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:13 PM Subject: [B&S] Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 (was Lesson learnt) > On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:39:22 +0100, Edie <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Even more important Elaine, get the film of the original record >> out,.that will save a lot ofheartache and misinformtion. > >> The Parish records have more information on them than the transcribed >> indexes do. >> Edie > > Hi Edie and Listers, > > I can think of one transcribed index that has the information that is in > parish registers. > > This is the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 > Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & Avon > Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk > > It's a wonderful resource as it shows status, age, the brides' and grooms' > occupations, where they lived, whether they signed the register or marked, > their fathers' names and occupations, witnesses and whether they signed or > marked. > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:44:00 +1000 From: "Edie" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, Conventry, Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I now have another version of the marraige for Frances Goolden and her husband John Dresser. It took place in Cookham, Berkshire, England 2 Sept 1807. Have just emailed the persons who compiled this record. Going right way from Gloucestershire, but who knows. I still need the birth. Edie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, Conventry,Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 > It seems that Frances Goolden and John Dresser were married in Hampshire, > 31 > ugust 1807. I had been told that but with all the different areas > covered, > I was mixed up. I did see a spinster birth of a Frances to a Frances that > fit the time frame. In the process of trying to find if Frances the > mother, > could have been the sister of the Thomas who my friend seems to think is > the > father of her Frances. > Edie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:18 PM > Subject: [B&S] Frances Goolden marr to John Dresser 1807, > Conventry,Warwickshire., daughter of Thomas and Jane Goolden c1786 > > >> Hi >> I am enquiring on behalf of a friend who doesnt have the computer on. >> She >> goes to the library. She is trying to find Frances Goolden c1786 >> daughter >> of Thomas and Jane, unkown birthplace at this stage.She married John >> Dresser, in 1807 at conventry, Warwickshire. This family seemed to move >> from areas such as Lassington in Gloucestershire, Shropshire and >> Somerset. >> I think Dorset comes into it as well. Seems to be possibly one of those >> one off families. She has a family tree given to her by a relative. Her >> section of the family doesnt seem to be joined as some arent in these >> family trees. Obviously incomplete. Does anyone have such a Frances >> Goolden. She hasnt found her birth to this couple and that is what she >> is >> after. Can anyone help please. >> Edie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:54:51 +1000 From: "brian skehan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear List, A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were all so quick off the mark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,this time I have learnt my lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorri Roughley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt > > oHi Eliane, > > Warning marriage certificates can be suspect, I have quite a few that I > know are incorrect. I like to reinforce the info on a marriage certificate > with other evidence. > > Do not through the info out...it is very possible that the two men were > brothers or cousins and therefore most of the info could still be > relevant. > > Your story reminds me of when I was in contact many years ago with someone > who had researched a branch of my tree in great detail, and gave me a lot > of help and information. He had spent hours and hours in the various > records offices ploughing through the church records for Gloucestershire > and Oxfordshire. Then the census returns came out...at which point I > found that there were 2 men of the same name/age/wife's name in the > village where his ancestor and my relative lived in 1841, and when I > checked the descendents for each man through the rest of the census > returns I discovered my contact was actually descended from the other one. > So all of my contacts wonderful work was correct for my tree...but not > his. I didn't have the heart to tell him. > > Best of luck in sorting it all out, > > Dorri > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:02:05 +1000 >> Subject: [B&S] Lesson learnt >> >> Dear List, >> Last year we joined ancestry and duly added all my information on my >> family from Midsomer Norton.Now I am usually really pedantic about my >> research and check and double check and follow up with certificates where >> I can.I didn't have much on my GGrandfathers brother Richard but a hint >> got me in contact with a lady who was related to him which made me very >> excited.For 2 years we have been corresponding and I didn't recheck what >> was given to me .Now my new cousin has informed me that at last she has >> sent for her GGGrandfathers marriage certificate and instead of Richard >> being his father she has discovered it was a James,therefore throwing all >> the information I have out the window.Maybe somewhere down the track we >> may find a connection and have decided to stay in contact as "adopted >> cousins" but this has taught me a big lesson,ie even when all appears >> right please don't take it as gospel.You still need to check it all >> yourself and follow up with certificates etc where you can.! > . >> I started this email to ask for a lookup but will do so in another email. >> Regards Elaine Skehan, >> Victoria,Australia. >> >> >> >> ======= >> Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. >> (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) >> http://www.pctools.com/ >> ======= >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:07:10 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:54:51 +0100, brian skehan <[email protected]> wrote: > A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were > all so quick off themark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the > CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,thistime I have learnt my > lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) Hi Elaine, My reference to the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society was just to indicate that not all transcriptions give limited information. However, unless you have family members who lived in the South Gloucestershire area, covered by this CD, then you may not find any references to relatives in these Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:24:05 +0100 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> Subject: [B&S] WATERS Benjamin, Bristol Apprenticeship Books, 1775 (was HILL and WATERS families) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:30:57 +0100, jcoupe <[email protected]> wrote: > I am searching for information about the parents of Joseph HILL. He was > born in Bristol, St.Phillips parish, around 1790-1801 and died in 1832. > His wife was Elizabeth (WATERS), born inBristol about 1790-1800, and > died in 1832. > I am also interested in learning Elizabeth WATERS lineage. Her parents > may have been Benjamin and Sarah WATERS who were born about 1769 in St. > Phillips parish. Hi Judy, In my response to your post last month, I noted that Benjamin WATERS, wine hooper, was made a Bristol Burgess on 7th. April 1784. His qualification to be made a Bristol Burgess was as apprentice of Charles WITHINGTON. I now have further information about Benjamin WATERS from the new CD, Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1(z) Index & Transcripts 1724-2009, produced by Bristol& Avon Family History Society. Benjamin WATERS was apprenticed to Charles WITHINGTON, a wine hooper, whose wife was Jane. The father of Benjamin WATERS was noted as being William and he was deceased. The father's occupation was cordwainer and abode was Bristol. Date 21st. March 1775 Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:55:26 +1000 From: "brian skehan" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Josephine, Thank you for clarifying this for me. Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Lesson learnt > On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:54:51 +0100, brian skehan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> A big thank you to all who have replied to my "Lesson Learnt".You were >> all so quick off themark.And thank you to Josephine for the name of the >> CD.I will send away for it.Yes Josephine,thistime I have learnt my >> lesson however I can't speak for future events although I hope so.(grin) > > Hi Elaine, > > My reference to the CD of Bristol Diocese (South Glos) Marriage Registers > Vol 11 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1837-1901 produced by Bristol & > Avon Family History Society was just to indicate that not all > transcriptions give limited information. > > However, unless you have family members who lived in the South > Gloucestershire area, covered by this CD, then you may not find any > references to relatives in these Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts > 1837-1901. > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ======= > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 9.0.0.888, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.20620) > http://www.pctools.com/ > ======= ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. 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