On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:45:00 +0100, Jean WOOD <[email protected]> wrote: > As a rider to this - if anyone can tell me anything more about Thomas > French - born 1781-1786 according to various censuses (I have a possible > Christening date of 12 oct 1783, son of Thomas and Nancy French) - > nothing more, no church, nor occupation. I would be grateful. Hi Jean, Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 12th. October 1783 at St. Michael's Church, Bristol. The burial of Thomas FRENCH, aged 9 months, took place on 12th. July 1784 at the same church. Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized at the age of 7 months, on 8th. July 1787 at St. Michael's Church. John FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 8th. July 1781 at the same church. There's a map on my web site of St. Michael's Church and its surroundings, Bristol 1789. http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/bristolbits/bristol/stmichaels.htm Josephine

Thanks again Josephine, Where did you find them? Useful to know I only found the first one (on line - Ancestry I think) Poor little object - he was baptised very soon after birth - I wonder if this was a desperate, and vain, measure as the second one was 7 months old at baptism. If you ever come across his marriage to a Mary - estimate 18 - teens - Marie seems to be the eldest born around 1818, Thomas Henry 1821 siblings William, 1825 Sarah, 1831 Elisa 1833 All Cheltenham - Or do I need to go to a Glos list? Quite big gaps - maybe more deaths? These all lived into 19C censuses Or if you come across a parental marriage Thomas French to Nancy - presumably in the 1770s or early 1780s - your reward will come in Heaven! Jean Wood > Message du 22/09/12 19:39 > De : "Josephine Jeremiah" > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [B&S] Thomas French of Bristol was HAINES in Sion Place, Bristol, > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:45:00 +0100, Jean WOOD > wrote: > > > As a rider to this - if anyone can tell me anything more about Thomas > > French - born 1781-1786 according to various censuses (I have a possible > > Christening date of 12 oct 1783, son of Thomas and Nancy French) - > > nothing more, no church, nor occupation. I would be grateful. > > Hi Jean, > > Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 12th. October 1783 > at St. Michael's Church, Bristol. > > The burial of Thomas FRENCH, aged 9 months, took place on 12th. July 1784 > at the same church. > > Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized at the age of 7 > months, on 8th. July 1787 at St. Michael's Church. > > John FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 8th. July 1781 at > the same church. > > There's a map on my web site of St. Michael's Church and its surroundings, > Bristol 1789. > > http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/bristolbits/bristol/stmichaels.htm > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:34:06 +0100, Jean WOOD <[email protected]> wrote: > Or if you come across a parental marriage Thomas French to Nancy - > presumably in the 1770s or early 1780s - your reward will come in Heaven! Hi Jean, Your wish is my command :-) Thomas FRENCH, yeoman, and Nancy FOWLES, spinster, were married, by licence, on 25th. June 1780 at St. Michael's Church, Bristol. This marriage is included in Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9 Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine

On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:34:06 +0100, Jean WOOD <[email protected]> wrote: > If you ever come across his marriage to a Mary - estimate 18 - teens - > Marie seems to be the eldest born around 1818, > Thomas Henry 1821 > siblings William, 1825 > Sarah, 1831 > Elisa 1833 All Cheltenham - Or do I need to go to a Glos list? Hi Jean, Here are two possible matches though neither marriage was in the Cheltenham area. Thomas FRENCH and Mary LEONARD were married, by banns, on 25th. December 1814 at Dursley, GLS. Thomas FRENCH and Mary BERRIMAN, widow, were married, by banns, on 18th. March 1817 at Stroud, GLS. These marriages are included in the Gloucestershire Mariage Index 1800-1837 produced by Gloucester Family History Society. www.gfhs.org.uk Josephine

Hallo again, Having eaten, and spouse is watching football - I have a further thought; Dursley to Stroud to Cheltenham is not so far, even in early 19C. This could be the same Thomas, marrying for a second time to provide a mother for a child of the first marriage. I know I am asking a lot - but you enjoy a challenge - don't you? Is there any evidence of such a child(ren) born to a Thomas and Mary French in the 1814-1817 period, and then a death of a Mary French? He may well have gone to the parish of his bride(s) to wed, of course, and the censuses are my origins of the places of birth. All the known children give Cheltenham, but by that time they are living in Toxteth (Liverpool) where Dursley or Stroud might not mean anything to a NW enumerator in 1851 - or where some of them lived later - in London and further afield. The marital abode could be anywhere in that general area of Glos. (PS Elise is a mistake - she is a daughter in law.) Thank you in case! Jean Wood > Message du 22/09/12 21:30 > De : "Josephine Jeremiah" > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : [B&S] FRENCH Thomas, marriages in Gloucestershire, 1814 and 1817 (Thomas French of Bristol) > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:34:06 +0100, Jean WOOD > wrote: > > > If you ever come across his marriage to a Mary - estimate 18 - teens - > > Marie seems to be the eldest born around 1818, > > Thomas Henry 1821 > > siblings William, 1825 > > Sarah, 1831 > > Elisa 1833 All Cheltenham - Or do I need to go to a Glos list? > > Hi Jean, > > Here are two possible matches though neither marriage was in the > Cheltenham area. > > Thomas FRENCH and Mary LEONARD were married, by banns, on 25th. December > 1814 at Dursley, GLS. > > Thomas FRENCH and Mary BERRIMAN, widow, were married, by banns, on 18th. > March 1817 at Stroud, GLS. > > These marriages are included in the Gloucestershire Mariage Index > 1800-1837 produced by Gloucester Family History Society. www.gfhs.org.uk > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I meant to say, St Michael's looks very rural at that time. I presume it was just at the beginning of the great expansion of towns and cities. Are the current buildings in that area predominantly 18th & 19th century? And did many get destroyed in WW 2? Jean Wood > Message du 22/09/12 19:39 > De : "Josephine Jeremiah" > A : [email protected] > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [B&S] Thomas French of Bristol was HAINES in Sion Place, Bristol, > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:45:00 +0100, Jean WOOD > wrote: > > > As a rider to this - if anyone can tell me anything more about Thomas > > French - born 1781-1786 according to various censuses (I have a possible > > Christening date of 12 oct 1783, son of Thomas and Nancy French) - > > nothing more, no church, nor occupation. I would be grateful. > > Hi Jean, > > Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 12th. October 1783 > at St. Michael's Church, Bristol. > > The burial of Thomas FRENCH, aged 9 months, took place on 12th. July 1784 > at the same church. > > Thomas FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized at the age of 7 > months, on 8th. July 1787 at St. Michael's Church. > > John FRENCH, son of Thomas and Nancy, was baptized on 8th. July 1781 at > the same church. > > There's a map on my web site of St. Michael's Church and its surroundings, > Bristol 1789. > > http://www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com/bristolbits/bristol/stmichaels.htm > > Josephine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >