Hi Tony. Re your interest in the surname BEARD. Are you in touch with Alf B at all? He has a deep interest in that surname, he may be able to tell you a lot more about Henry Beard. If you'd like I can send him your email address (shown here) and copy of your posting and put you in touch. Send me a PM if you'd like me to contact him. Lisa (gene-genie) ----- Original message ----- From: bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 9, Issue 19 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:53:41 -0700 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ellbroad Street, Bristol (was Elizabeth Sarah STRATFORD ...) (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Do you know a WWI hero? -- Bristol Post article (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. Bristol, a City and a County (Elizabeth Sarah STRATFORD, baptism, Pip & Jay, Bristol 1810) (Josephine Jeremiah) 4. BEARD (Tony Harrison) 5. LATCHAM farmers (Art & Marjorie Keates) 6. Re: BEARD (Josephine Jeremiah) 7. CHIDGEY, masons, Bristol, 18th & 19th centuries (was Helping other people with their family trees) (Josephine Jeremiah) 8. Re: BEARD (Tony Harrison) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:20:04 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] Ellbroad Street, Bristol (was Elizabeth Sarah STRATFORD ...) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w9c2vtwc42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 06:03:56 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> wrote: > Now I see it. Top right (northeast?) corner of G3 on that map. > Thanks! I had read that it was replaced since then. Hi Sandy, Yes, Ellbroad Street was among Bristol's lost streets. You'll find a reference to it in the site, which Edna gave yesterday: Lost Bristol Streets http://www.bristolinformation.co.uk/streets/lost-streets.asp If you don't already have it, you may be interested in a captioned old photograph of Ellbroad Street, which shows pigs being herded along the street. http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/8193527360/in/set-72157615751973326 Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 09:26:52 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Do you know a WWI hero? -- Bristol Post article To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w9c262jp42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi Listers, My attention has been drawn to this Bristol Post article, which may be of interest to list members: Do you know a WWI hero? http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/know-WWI-hero/story-20412959-detail/story.html Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:18:59 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Bristol, a City and a County (Elizabeth Sarah STRATFORD, baptism, Pip & Jay, Bristol 1810) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w9c5lxmz42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:31:42 -0000, Sandy Gianni <slgianni@newkenmore.com> wrote: > OK. Here are my details. > Elizabeth Sarah Stratford, born about 1810 in Bristol, Somerset, England Hi Sandy, Small point, but to be accurate, Bristol wasn't and isn't in Somerset. Bristol is a City and County in in its own right. Elizabeth Sarah STRATFORD, the daughter of Edmund and Elizabeth, was baptized, at the age of 17 weeks, on 6th. May 1810 at the church of St. Philip & St. Jacob, Bristol so it is likely that she was born in that Bristol parish. At that time, the county of Somerset was on the other side of Bristol's River Avon. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 10:55:57 -0000 From: "Tony Harrison" <a.harrison@tesco.net> Subject: [B&S] BEARD To: "B&S" <Bristol_and_Somerset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AA472AD0131F405B8784FB30AA19B028@TonyPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Henry Beard b abt 1794 Somerset (1851 census) married a Frances sometime before 1815 after which they have 7 children born in Lyncombe Somerset and all baptised at St Thomas a Becket Widecombe Somerset a further child was born in Milk St Bath and was baptised at St Swithin Bath, Frances died in Holloway Lyncombe and was buried 28 Sep 1840 at St Thomas a Becket Widecombe. In 1841 Census Henry and 2 of his sons are to be found in Thomas Street Bristol. Henry remarries April 1842 at St Mary Redcliffe and shows his father as James Beard a Gunsmith Henry dies 1854 3Q but I do not have a burial for him. Any help in finding Henry's birth or burial or details of his marriage to Frances would be much appreciated. Tony ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 08:34:57 -0500 From: Art & Marjorie Keates <akeates@kingston.net> Subject: [B&S] LATCHAM farmers To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20140108081842.0165f258@kingston.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >When I sent the information about Wilfred Latcham, I didn't realize that >Heath House was an area of Wedmore, so I've found out something new. > >Possibly this Wilfred was the son of butcher Matthew Latcham, but I expect >you've already found that. > >Josephine Hi Josephine Yes, Wilfred was the son of Matthew Latcham and Alice nee Wall. I knew from his mother's will that Wilfred was a farmer but it's nice, I think, finding extra bits and pieces to add weight to what I have found along the way. I always like finding instances of farmers and gardeners because my father, in Canada, was a farmer and the land does seem to run throughout the broad family. Hope you are not experiencing the dreadful weather that is hitting so much of England...that you are not in danger of being flooded out. Marjorie ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 13:47:06 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] BEARD To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w9de8sys42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:55:57 -0000, Tony Harrison <a.harrison@tesco.net> wrote: > Henry Beard b abt 1794 Somerset (1851 census) married a Frances sometime > before 1815 after which they have 7 children born in Lyncombe Somerset > and all baptised at St Thomas a Becket Widecombe Somerset a further > child was > born in Milk St Bath and was baptised at St Swithin Bath, Frances died in > Holloway Lyncombe and was buried 28 Sep 1840 at St Thomas a Becket > Widecombe. > Any help in finding Henry's birth or burial or details of his marriage > to Frances would be much appreciated. Hi Tony, I looked in the B & A FHS marriages for Somerset 1754-1837 and for Bristol 1754-1812 and 1813-1837 for a marriage between a Henry Beard and a Frances. I also looked in the Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837, but had no result. Perhaps Henry used another forename when he married the first time. Unfortunately there are a lot of Beard entries and on two of the CDs the brides' names are not included in the groom's index, so that searching for a Beard who married a Frances would mean looking through all the Beard entries in the different parishes. Even if a Beard, with a different forename, who married a Frances, was found in this way, the bride and groom might not be the couple you are researching. Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:38:56 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] CHIDGEY, masons, Bristol, 18th & 19th centuries (was Helping other people with their family trees) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w9dhm6n942w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 03:13:15 -0000, Cheryl and John <johnthebricky@hotmail.com> wrote: > Glad your back on track. I know how things are when you have an old > computer hope you can get the newer one working well again soon. Hi Cheryl, Thanks for your e-mail. My husband is making some progress with getting the newer computer going while I am still writing on the old one. I am getting used to the noise and the slow speed of the old one :-) > Still some gaps in the Chidgey family some of the sibling info needs > tracking down, but have found more Randall info most of the census with > the help of you and other and did make contact with a distant Chidgey > line. CHIDGEY is an unusual name, but I think I recall the name from my youth. It's likely that I went to school with someone with that name, but I can't recall anything about him other than the surname. But I do recall that the father your Louisa CHIDGEY was recorded as a mason at her baptism on 12th. September 1824 at the church of St. James, Bristol. I've come across the surname CHIDGEY in the B & A FHS Bristol Apprenticeship Books Vols 1(o) to 1 (z) Index & Transcripts 1724-2009. Henry CHIDGEY, whose father was James CHIDGEY, mason, of Bristol, was apprenticed to George JONES, mason, on 1st. August 1812. (George's wife was Hannah) If you don't already have these two CHIDGEYs who were masons, they may fit in your tree somewhere. And here's another CHIDGEY mason, whom you probably have but nothing ventured nothing gained: Robert CHIDGEY, mason, Horfield-lane, was in the First Company of the Bristol Volunteers in 1798. He was listed in the following: The Rise, Progress & Military Improvement of the Bristol Volunteers with an Alphabetical List of the Officers and Privates correctly arranged by James Brown, Serj. of the 10th Comp. published by W. Matthews, at No. 62, Broadmead, 1798. Some information about the Bristol volunteers is on the following web page: http://fishponds.org.uk/revwar.html Josephine ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 16:52:55 -0000 From: "Tony Harrison" <a.harrison@tesco.net> Subject: Re: [B&S] BEARD To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FF2AB94251E1448EBD0829811765326D@TonyPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Josephine Thank you for looking. I have tried looking for a baptism using James as his fathern which I tend to believe as his eldest son was named James who unfortunately died in 1828 but Henry again named his last child as James. I have tried looking at early trade directories for a Beard Gunsmith named James without success. I am sure he will surface at some time. A Henry Beard married a Francis Harden 20th December, 1807 at St. Martins, Salisbury, Wilts. but have not found any children for them and my Henry and Frances were having children from 1815 to 1833 but will try a post on a Wiltshire board. Regards Tony -----Original Message----- From: Josephine Jeremiah Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 1:47 PM To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B&S] BEARD On Wed, 08 Jan 2014 10:55:57 -0000, Tony Harrison <a.harrison@tesco.net> wrote: > Henry Beard b abt 1794 Somerset (1851 census) married a Frances sometime > before 1815 after which they have 7 children born in Lyncombe Somerset > and all baptised at St Thomas a Becket Widecombe Somerset a further > child was > born in Milk St Bath and was baptised at St Swithin Bath, Frances died in > Holloway Lyncombe and was buried 28 Sep 1840 at St Thomas a Becket > Widecombe. > Any help in finding Henry's birth or burial or details of his marriage > to Frances would be much appreciated. Hi Tony, I looked in the B & A FHS marriages for Somerset 1754-1837 and for Bristol 1754-1812 and 1813-1837 for a marriage between a Henry Beard and a Frances. I also looked in the Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837, but had no result. Perhaps Henry used another forename when he married the first time. Unfortunately there are a lot of Beard entries and on two of the CDs the brides' names are not included in the groom's index, so that searching for a Beard who married a Frances would mean looking through all the Beard entries in the different parishes. Even if a Beard, with a different forename, who married a Frances, was found in this way, the bride and groom might not be the couple you are researching. 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