Josephine Thanks for replying. I did have the information on Isaac Webley marriages as I have the BFHS transcripts. I think Isaac & Sarah were the parents of William whose two children were the executors of Ambrose's will but I cannot see any relationship to Ambrose. Regards & Happy Christmas Bob -----Original Message----- From: bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bristol_and_somerset-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bristol_and_somerset-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 18 December 2010 23:16 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Subject: BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 Today's Topics: 1. Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have been so different (Josephine Jeremiah) 2. Re: Frank LINDSELL (Josephine Jeremiah) 3. St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) (Josephine Jeremiah) 4. Re: St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) (David Lindsell) 5. Re: Christmas tradition (Josephine Jeremiah) 6. Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on Bristol map of 1910 (Josephine Jeremiah) 7. The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) (Josephine Jeremiah) 8. WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A Family Conundrum !) (Josephine Jeremiah) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:05:48 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Clifton Suspension Bridge -- article on how it could have been so different To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnwxfymk42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes For anyone interested in Brunel, there's an article in the Evening Post on how Bristol's famous Clifton Suspension Bridge could have been so different: http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Iconic-landmark-different/article-302103 2-detail/article.html -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] Frank LINDSELL To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnw44xja42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? Hi David, As far as I know, there wasn't a James Street in Clifton, but Clifton may be the registration district on your great-grandfather's birth certificate. If it was the registration district, then a possible address might be James Street, which was once between Grosvenor Street and Ashley Road in Bristol. Three streets, which were parallel with James Street, are still there. They are William Street, Denbigh Street and Campbell Street. I say possible address because, although I know that James Street, near Grosvenor Road, was built by 1875, I don't know if it was there in 1863. If this is the right James Street, then a church where your great-grandfather could have been baptized could have been St. Barnabas, which was close by, at the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 16:51:59 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnw44xsw42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, > Bristol on the 12 March 1863. > Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra > information would you expect to find from his baptism? Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on the following web page: http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000 From: "David Lindsell" <trained@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <D5E54120951243D3BEBA07A5A939F477@d824a89acdee04> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors were baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 4:51 PM Subject: [B&S] St. Barnabas Church, Bristol (was Frank LINDSELL) > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:53:58 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> > wrote: > >> My Great Grandfather, named above was born in James Street, Clifton, >> Bristol on the 12 March 1863. >> Please would anyone have any information on his Baptism? > > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:13:13 -0000, Roy Stockdill > <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> It sounds as if you have his birth certificate, so what extra >> information would you expect to find from his baptism? > > Perhaps David also wants information about and pictures of a likely > church, where his great-grandfather may have been baptized. > > In the past, I have bought old postcards of churches in the areas where my > families lived in case I found a link with events in my families. > > If St. Barnabas, which was near James Street, Grosvenor Road, Bristol, is > the one, then there are details about this church and pictures of it on > the following web page: > > http://www.churchcrawler.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bristol3/city_rd.htm > > -- > Josephine Jeremiah > www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:55:03 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [B&S] Christmas tradition To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxat1zu42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 13:53:49 -0000, Joni Saunders <josaun@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Every year at this time I can't help but wonder how my ancestors in > England celebrated Christmas and what traditions would have been handed > down to me if they had not immigrated once to Canada and again to the > US... My father's > g-grandmother family came from the Shepton Mallet and Gurney Slade areas > of Somerset. Hi Jo, The custom of Wassailing in Somerset springs to mind. The following web site is about Wassailing, which takes place between Christmas Eve and Twelfth Night. http://www.england-in-particular.info/orchards/o-wass.html More information on Wassailing is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassailing Wassailing events in Somerset for last year, January 2009, are listed here: http://www.england-in-particular.info/new/n-wass.html Scroll down for the Somerset information. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:29:24 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] Position of James Street and the church of St. Barnabas on Bristol map of 1910 To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxe7av942w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:30:49 -0000, David Lindsell <trained@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Thank you Josephine. I am still not sure that this is the right church > but will investigate further. I do indeed like to see where my ancestors > were > baptised and to obtain a picture if possible. Hi David, Thanks for your response. You might like to see the position of James Street near Grosvenor Road on a 1910 map of Bristol, which is on the following web page: http://contueor.com/baedeker/great_britain/bristol.htm James Street is near the top of 1G on the map, near the junction of Ashley Road and City Road. The church of St. Barnabas was situated in the triangle, shown on the map, between Ashley Road and City Road in IG. If your great-grandfather's birth certificate is from the Sub-district Ashley then this James Street could be the one, where he was born. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clifton.html Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:53:04 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] The Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops, Bristol, 1916 ( was Sir John Swaish - Mayor of Bristol) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxluqqh42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 14:12:23 -0000, John Farnhill <john.farnhill@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I believe that Sir John Swaish, (1852-1931), mayor of Bristol in 1913, > married Sarah Rowland Evans in Q1 1872. The only death I can find for > Sarah is Q1 1915. > My query is: Did John marry for a second time ? I can't answer John's query, but I have a little snippet of information about the Lord Mayor's Christmas Fund for troops concerning the Lord Mayor, Alderman Swaish, which may be of interest to list members. In 1916, the Lord Mayor wanted to send something to the men serving in not only the 4th Gloucesters of which he was Honorary Colonel, but also to men in other local units and those linked with Bristol. After a public fund was raised, dark blue enamel tobacco tins with their lids decorated with the city arms were obtained and these were each filled with a pipe, tobacco and cigarette papers. The tobacco tins were much valued by the men who received them and many men sent them home for safe keeping. Perhaps a list member has one of these tobacco tins among family memorabilia. There was similar fund raising at Christmas, 1917, and Christmas, 1918, and the money collected went to the Canteen Fund of the units to help with the Christmas festivities for the troops. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:16:45 -0000 From: "Josephine Jeremiah" <jojeremiah@dsl.pipex.com> Subject: [B&S] WEBLEY Isaac, Winterbourne marriages , 1756 and 1782 (was A Family Conundrum !) To: bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.vnxmx71y42w82j@glasydorlan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:41:41 -0000, Bob Sanders <bob.sanders59@ntlworld.com> wrote: > My ancestor George Webley born at Berkley, Somerset in 1787 had a brother > Ambrose Webley born Berkley 1784. They were children of George Webley & > Rebecca Biggs. So far so good. > Ambrose was gardener at Oldbury Court for 55 years and was involved in > the founding of Dr Bell's School at Stapleton. > I recently discovered on Ancestry that he left a will and probate was > granted to Ann Elizabeth Shipton, widow, daughter of William Webley of > Frenchay, gardener, and James Webley of Henbury, gardener, who were joint > executors. William Webley of Frenchay appears to have been the son of > Isaac Webley of Winterbourne. However, I can find no link between the > Berkley > Webleys and the Winterbourne Webleys. > If anyone has any bright ideas or knows anything of either family I > would be interested to hear. Hi Bob, There were two marriages at Winterbourne for grooms called Isaac Webley, which may be of interest if you don't already have them. Isaac Webley and Betty Somerell were married, by banns, on 1st. March 1756 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. Isaac Webley and Sarah May were married, by banns, on 1st. October 1782 at Winterbourne. Both were of the parish. These marriages are included in the CD of Bristol Diocese Marriage Registers Vol 9, Groom & Bride Indexes & Transcripts 1754-1812, produced by Bristol & Avon Family History Society. www.bafhs.org.uk Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com ------------------------------ To contact the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET list administrator, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET mailing list, send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET Digest, Vol 5, Issue 436 ****************************************************