(Resend after original Wednesday email failed to arrive. Rootsweb did seem to be down for some time) After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead of by postcode. I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. However using readily available resources it is possible to profile down to parish level. Using the B&AFHS baptism index which is mainly pre 1837 I can quickly find there are 356 LOVELL baptisms. These are the parishes where most took place:- Mangotsfield 127 Bedminster 36 St Philip & Jacob 27 Kingswood 25 St Mary Redcliffe 20 St George 18 St James 18 Temple 11 Staplton 10 Using the Family Search 1881 census I can see how people have moved around. These are the Bristol area parishes where most Lovells were found in 1881:- St George 105 St Philip & Jacob 94 Mangotsfield 74, Bedminster 63, Bitton/Oldland 52 Staplton 47. Clifton 31 St James & Paul 15 Profiling can help locate areas a family could have originated from and also indicate areas probably not to bother searching. My GGG Grandfather Samuel Lovell married 1801 in Kilmerston, Somerset and his first child was born there but was baptised at Mangotsfield. I had always assumed Samuel was originally from Mangotsfield as there is a suitable baptism in 1780 but now knowing there are so many Lovells in Somerset there is a possibility he was born there instead. Chris Jefferies Cheltenham Glos

On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi If you have access to Ancestry surely you can do it for all their transcribed censuses, just put in the surname and the county you want in the exact old search. (you have to take into account their transcription accuracy may affect the results) Mike in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [B&S] Re Surname Profiler On 3 Dec 2010 at 11:54, Chris Jefferies wrote: > After all that waiting for the Profiler to return I find that it won't > now do what I want! All I wanted to know was how occurrence of the > surname LOVELL in Somerset compared with that in Gloucestershire. I am > sure that last time I looked the info was displayed by county instead > of by postcode. > > I used Family Search instead which told me that in 1881 there were 555 > LOVELL living in Gloucestershire and 575 living in Somerset. Those in > Somerset seemed well spread out over the county but in Gloucestershire > the name was concentrated in the Bristol area. > Your search would have been resolved in probably under a couple of minutes had you owned a copy of Steve Archer's British Surname Atlas CD - quite the best bargain in genealogy at only £12, in my opinion. This takes all the data from the 1881 census and draws instant distribution maps showing where any one of thousands of surnames is most concentrated. The results table is shown by counties, Poor Law Unions (registration districts) and in terms of occurrences per 100,000 head of population. Variants can be included or a simple search for just one version can be done. The maps print out beautifully and the statistical results can be incorporated into databases. Some slight divergence from your own results is to be expected, but basically the results with Surname Atlas are very similar. This shows a total of 559 LOVELLs in Somerset and 550 in Gloucestershire. The top county for LOVELL was Middlesex with 978 actually occurrences. However, when looked at it terms of density, i.e. per 100,000, the principal centre of the surname in 1881 was Northamptonshire with 163 occurrences per 100,000. When the same calculation is applied in terms of Poor Law Unions, then the surname LOVELL is at easily its highest concentration in Keynsham - 685 occurrences per 100,000 - which would seem to bear out your own discoveries. The highest actual number of occurrences was at Barton Regis with 303. However, I cannot help wondering how long it took you to arrive at your results using FamilySearch and other sources when the results could have been achieved with Surname Atlas in just a few minutes? -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BRISTOL_AND_SOMERSET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message